Chad Young’s 2023 Ottoneu 2B Rankings

After a holiday hiatus, we’re back at it with 2B today and we’ll be powering through other positions quickly. My goal is to finish this series in January and to make updates in February as new information comes out or my thinking changes. Second base has already been delayed because of new information and updated thinking.

All of my Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | 2B | SS | 3B | OF | SP | RP

 

The new information is the Trevor Story elbow surgery, expected to keep him out most of the year, perhaps all of it. The updated thinking is based on results from the Ottoneu mock auction going on at Couch Managers, as well as a couple other mocks people are running. I am learning more about the market and adjusting my thinking as a result.

As always, some notes before we look at the rankings themselves.

  1. Tiers > Ranks. The specific order of the rankings is less helpful and less meaningful than the tiers. Andrés Giménez is #6 and Brandon Lowe #7, but Lowe is closer to Ozzie Albies for me than he is to Giménez. I am always open to discuss my rankings – and I will change them based on convincing feedback – but moving guys around within the tiers just doesn’t matter much. If you want to argue, tell me who is in the wrong tier entirely.
  2. Format Matters. These are for Ottoneu FanGraphs points format, but can be used fairly effectively for SABR Points (bats are slightly more valuable; for pitchers things vary more) and 4×4 (which values the same skills if not the same way).  Also note that, compared to roto leagues (4×4 or 5×5), points leagues have a steeper value curve, so the most expensive players are not quite so expensive in roto. The biggest difference, of course, is that 5×5 values SB highly and this format does not. For 5×5, there are a ton of other rankings out there, including right here on FanGraphs. Make sure to note that redraft rankings are not the same as keeper rankings, and Ottoneu will be more similar to keeper or dynasty. Finally, while it won’t be a full ranking, I’ll be sharing my top tens at each position for 5×5 keeper leagues as part of the Keep or Kut podcast.
  3. Projected P/G are the Basis but not the Ranking. On each table, you will see a projected P/G for each player. For this list, those are based on the Depth Charts projections as of 11/30. You’ll note, however, that I didn’t simply put the top projection first and then work down the list. A few things can cause me to break from the projections. Playing time and role, age and track record, future value and possible breakout potential are all factors that could cause me to move someone around. For example, Brendan Rodgers has a better projection than a number of players a tier above him, while Bryson Stott is ahead of Kolten Wong.  The former is because I see a lot more risk in Rodgers, due to his injury history and the need to platoon him on the road. The latter is because I think Stott has upside that Wong lacks.
  4. One Position at a Time. Players are ranked for just one position at a time, and will only be ranked at positions where I think they might be/should be used in fantasy. Any player who qualifies at catcher will be left off this list, but everyone else will be listed since 2B is a relatively weak position.
  5. N/A Means Not Enough Data. If the P/G column reads N/A that either means the projection doesn’t exist or the playing time was too small and I decided to ignore it.
  6. Tiers are Pre-Inflation. In practice, this means these tiers are most applicable to first-year leagues, but you can also adjust for inflation for your league. If you expect 20% inflation in your league, the top tier at 2B becomes $48-$54.

 

Ottoneu FanGraphs Points 2B Rankings
Tier Rank Player Eligibility Projected P/G Notes
$40-$45 1 Mookie Betts 2B/OF 6.12 As long as he is eligible here, he is the top dog.
$33-$40 2 Jose Altuve 2B 5.66 He was actually better than Betts last year and while I won’t bet on that again, it’s worth keeping in mind.
$23-$27 3 Marcus Semien 2B/SS 5.02 This is pretty aggressive based on his 2022 season, but I trust him more than the guys below him.
$17-$22 4 Jazz Chisholm Jr. 2B 5.41 I have come around on Jazz and the upside he flashes is just so tantalizing.
$17-$22 5 Max Muncy 2B/3B 5.26 First half last year was a BABIP-fueled nightmare, but it’s over now, you don’t need to be scared.
$17-$22 6 Andrés Giménez 2B/SS 5.23 Am I paying full price for his breakout? Not quite, but not far off either.
$11-$16 7 Brandon Lowe 2B 5.32 2022 was just cause of his back right? Right??
$11-$16 8 Gleyber Torres 2B 5.21 He isn’t going to be the $30 player we all hoped, but there is a big gap between “disappointing” and “bad.”
$11-$16 9 Luis Arraez 1B/2B 5.18 Putting him above McNeil hurts a bit, and it will only get worse if he loses 2B-eligibility.
$11-$16 10 Jeff McNeil 2B/OF 5.09 An absolute OBP monster.
$11-$16 11 Ozzie Albies 2B 5.06 Healthy and hitting in early in that lineup, he should get plenty of PA to pile up points.
$11-$16 12 Isaac Paredes 1B/2B/3B 5.28 The plate discipline is exciting, but this price requires a bit more hard contact than he provided last year. I think it is coming.
$11-$16 13 Vaughn Grissom 2B/SS 5.07 I am a sucker for guys who can draw a walk and avoid K’s and Vaughn is that guy.
$7-$10 14 Ketel Marte 2B 5.20 The most frustrating part with Marte is that it’s not just his surface-level production that bounces around; the underlying performance has, too, which makes him really hard to read.
$7-$10 15 Brendan Rodgers 2B 5.24 On the one hand, I think we can stop worrying about his ability to produce; on the other, I think we can stop dreaming on elite upside.
$7-$10 16 Jorge Polanco 2B 5.06 Tempting to call 2022 a down year, but really, other than 2020, he has been relatively consistent and thid ranking reflects conerns about staying on the field more than performance issues.
$7-$10 17 Jonathan India 2B 4.88 Showed some good progress on BB and K in the second half last year and that gives me hope.
$7-$10 18 Jake Cronenworth 1B/2B/SS 4.82 Biggest question for him is HR/FB rate – he increased his FB rate in 2022 and if the HR/FB rate rebounds, he could been in for a big year.
$7-$10 19 Ryan McMahon 2B/3B 5.07 Take Brendan Rodgers, trade some of his production for some additional playing time.
$7-$10 20 Brendan Donovan 1B/2B/SS/3B/OF 4.98 Poor man’s Jeff McNeil with eligibility at every spot except C. Not bad.
$7-$10 21 Tommy Edman 2B/SS 4.63 “Why is Edman so low?” shout all the 5×5 players.
$7-$10 22 DJ LeMahieu 1B/2B/3B 4.97 He’s settled in as a good-not-great hitter and needs regular PA and a good lineup spot to have this value.
$3-$6 23 Gavin Lux 2B/OF 4.87 I still think he might have another level. I am not PAYING for that level, but he might have it.
$3-$6 24 Nolan Gorman 2B 4.86 I still think he might have another level. I am not PAYING for that level, but he might have it.
$3-$6 25 Luis Urías 2B/SS/3B 4.88 I still think he might have another level. I am not PAYING for that level, but he might have it.
$3-$6 26 Spencer Steer 1B/2B/SS/3B 4.85 No, the repeated comments above were not a typo. I almost said the same about Steer, but he has to set a baseline first.
$3-$6 27 Bryson Stott 2B/SS 4.63 He showed really nice development as the year went on and coming into camp with the 2B locked up puts him in a good spot to make another leap.
$3-$6 28 Thairo Estrada 2B/SS/OF 4.76 I was really excited about him a year ago; going to temper that this year.
$3-$6 29 Luis Rengifo 2B/SS/3B 4.64 If you had asked me what his 2022 wOBA was, I would have guessed way too high. No idea why.
$3-$6 30 Kolten Wong 2B 4.79 I am going on the record now and saying that I am too low on Wong here and will end up moving him up before draft season.
$3-$6 31 Jonathan Aranda 1B/2B/3B 4.91 The gap between him and Paredes is more about me being high on Paredes than anything else. Aranda has really interesting skills, too.
$3-$6 32 Brandon Drury 1B/2B/3B 4.68 He’s a platoon guy you can only use vs. LHP, no matter what he looked like in 2022.
$3-$6 33 Josh Rojas 2B/3B 4.70 I just switched him from the $1-$2 tier to the $3-$6 tier.
$1-$2 34 Jordan Westburg 2B/SS/3B 4.90 He’s good and he appears to be ready and it should not be that hard to displace one of Ramon Urias or Adam Frazier.
$1-$2 35 Nick Gordon 2B/SS/OF 4.20 He’s going to be all over my draft boards as a late-auction option. Is that because he hit the ball extremely hard last year or because Ottoneu lists him as Nick Chad Gordon and I like seeing my own name? Hmmm…
$1-$2 36 Oswaldo Cabrera 2B/OF 4.65 He really impressed me when I watched him last year and now seems to have the LF job. Interesting flyer, especially given OF eligibility.
$1-$2 37 CJ Abrams 2B/SS 4.37 I still want to have Abrams on a roster or two – he was bad but it’s not like he was striking out 30% of the time or anything.
$1-$2 38 Keston Hiura 1B/2B 4.46 I absolutely do not believe he can maintain success striking out 40% of the time and I don’t see any evidence he can strike out much less.
$1-$2 39 Jean Segura 2B 4.64 Perfectly solid, unexciting MI option now in a terrible hitters park.
$1-$2 40 Ramón Urías 2B/3B 4.59 I’ll probably gamble here and there that his 2022 was an outlier rather than his performance settling in, but I think it might be the latter.
$1-$2 41 Christopher Morel 2B/SS/3B/OF 4.78 It’s possible he hits the ball hard enough to overcome an unimpressive approach, and maybe I need to look deeper at him.
$1-$2 42 Michael Massey 2B 4.51 Kaufman is such a bad park for him but he still should have had more HR than he did based on his batted ball quality. Some real upside.
$1-$2 43 Trevor Story 2B 4.83 Pre-injury, I had him in the $11-$16 tier, as I was just giving him something of a pass on 2022 and thinking he’ll rebound at least part way. But if he isn’t going to play, he’s basically just a stash and not a great one.
$1-$2 44 Cavan Biggio 1B/2B/OF 4.49 If you had asked me a couple years ago where Biggio would rank at 2B in 2023, I would have said top 10. If you ask me now, he’s likely $0 by next season.
$1-$2 45 Chris Taylor 2B/OF 4.20 In Memoriam, for the Chris Taylor Peak (2017-2021).
$1-$2 46 Wilmer Flores 1B/2B/3B 4.73 Combination of declining performance and limited playing time just doesn’t add up to much value.
$1-$2 47 Livan Soto 2B/SS 3.31 The 2022 cup of coffee was intriguing, but only in a vague “yeah, it’s possible he could turn into something” way and not much more.
$1-$2 48 Luis García 2B/SS 4.71 The entire Nats lineup is just guys who could be good but probably won’t be.
$1-$2 49 Santiago Espinal 2B/SS/3B 4.57 Fell off a ton and doesn’t have any clear path to playing time.
$1-$2 50 Ji Hwan Bae 2B/SS/OF 4.77 Roster resource has him on the bench but as a LH bat, even in a platoon role he could carve out value.
$1-$2 51 Tyler Freeman 2B/SS/3B 4.57 I suspect he turns into a better real life player than fantasy bat.
$1-$2 52 Nick Madrigal 2B 4.34 He has no role and I am not sure how or when he earns one. I am also not sure I care.
$1-$2 53 Enrique Hernández 2B/SS/OF 4.41 For some random 2-3 week period mid-season, he will be a hot pickup because he can play multiple positions and is running hot (and then people will overrate him and hold him forever).
$0 54 Ezequiel Duran 2B/SS/3B 4.48 The Rangers seem dedicated to finding space for him, but until he settles into a role and shows he can perform, I am not that interested.
$0 55 Christian Arroyo 1B/2B/SS/3B/OF 4.70 I suspect the Red Sox are really hoping one of their young MI moves fast enough to displace him.
$0 56 Vidal Bruján 2B/SS/OF 4.13 I don’t believe the skillset translates to this format, but it isn’t impossible.
$0 57 Rodolfo Castro 2B/SS/3B 4.55 I like Bae better and at some point Pittsburgh has to choose between them.
$0 58 Diego Castillo 2B/SS/OF 3.96 Did you know he was traded to Arizona? I totally missed that.
$0 59 Terrin Vavra 2B/OF 4.44 He’s got that plate discipline I love, but more utility guy than the type of regular you want to roster.
$0 60 Lenyn Sosa 2B/SS 4.43 He didn’t quite look ready last year, but it’s not like the White Sox are set at 2B.
$0 61 Whit Merrifield 2B/OF 4.29 He just wasn’t build for FanGraphs Points and he could overcome that at his best but those years are gone.
$0 62 Joey Wendle 2B/SS/3B 4.15 Solid role player, could be a desperation fantasy play if and when he is getting regular PA and the rest of your team is injured.
$0 63 Josh Harrison 2B/3B 4.12 For some random 2-3 week period mid-season, he will be a hot pickup because he can play multiple positions and is running hot (but then everyone will cut him again).
$0 64 Jonathan Villar 2B/3B 4.21 For some random 2-3 week period mid-season, he will be a hot pickup because he can play multiple positions and is running hot, but then everyone will cut him again (assuming he gets signed).
$0 65 Jeter Downs 2B/SS 3.36 Are we just…giving up on him? We probably should be. But are we?
$0 66 Nick Maton 2B/SS/OF 4.01 He had three barrels and five HR and I don’t think that ratio will continue.
$0 67 Pedro Leon 2B/OF 3.85 He’s intriguing, for sure, but he also has no clear path to playing time and no urgency to be on the 40-man, so I’ll just wait and see.
$0 68 Jon Berti 2B/SS/3B/OF 4.27 All those SB are fun, but not that useful.
$0 69 Taylor Walls 2B/SS/3B 3.79 All those potential SB are fun, but not that useful.
$0 70 David Fletcher 2B/SS 3.96 If Donovan is a poor man’s Jeff McNeil, Fletcher…well, I am not sure, but worse.
$0 71 Jonathan Schoop 2B 4.22 Detroit should be finding a way to get him out of the lineup to give more PA to more interesting guys.
$0 72 Adam Frazier 2B/OF 4.23 I really believe he is just a placeholder in Pittsburgh.
$0 73 Tony Kemp 2B/OF 4.27 I know that 2021 season happened but I am just not interested in seeing if it happens again.
$0 74 Michael Busch 2B 4.60 He would be moderately interesting if I believed he had any path to meaningful 2023 PA.
$0 75 Dylan Moore 2B/SS/OF 4.16 He is more fun to watch than he is actually good, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t useful for the Mariners.
$0 76 Sam Haggerty 2B/OF 4.00 He is more fun to watch than he is actually good, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t useful for the Mariners.
$0 77 Owen Miller 1B/2B 4.04 He could develop into a solid utility player for the Brewers, but I don’t see much more.
$0 78 Willi Castro 2B/SS/OF 3.97 I was excited about him in the past, but not any more.
$0 79 Harold Castro 1B/2B/SS/3B 3.97 He could be good with a .375 BABIP! What do you want to pay for that possibility?
$0 80 Abraham Toro 2B/3B 4.45 It’s just not going to happen.
$0 81 Donovan Solano 1B/2B/3B 4.41 I left him on here because he is rostered in 15% of Ottoneu leagues, but…why??





A long-time fantasy baseball veteran and one of the creators of ottoneu, Chad Young's writes for RotoGraphs and PitcherList, and can be heard on the ottobot podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chadyoung.

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diamondbags
1 year ago

Would you say Paredes is a must-own in a standard 5×5 weekly H2H dynasty league? Cuz he’s sittin’ out there in my 16 teamer…