Archive for Outfielders

Four Outfielders: Marte, Doyle, Stowers, & Butler


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With no ADP yet, I’m going to start diving into some deeper outfielders. For the players, I used the last outfielders drafted in the first 11 rounds of the Too Early Meatball Draft. One caveat: I’m not going to feature anyone who is still playing (sorry, Andy Pages) or should be a free agent. I want as much information as possible on the player. There are plenty of outfielders to examine now and then later. Read the rest of this entry »


Four Outfielders: Marsee, Caglianone, Carpenter, & Crews


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With no ADP yet, I’m going to start diving into some deeper outfielders. For the players, I used the last outfielders drafted in the first 11 rounds of the Too Early Meatball Draft. One caveat: I’m not going to feature anyone who is still playing (sorry, Addison Barger) or should be a free agent. I want as much information as possible on the player. There are plenty of outfielders to examine now and then later.

Note: I plan on using the the Final Take writeups in my outfielder rankings when they come up in little over a month.

Dylan Crews (Pick 146): There were high hopes for the 23-year-old top prospect (we had him ranked as #3 overall prospect) coming into the 2025 season. He was limited to 322 PA over 85 Games because of a mid-May oblique strain. He did not return until mid-August. Before going on the IL, he had a .620 OPS and a .643 OPS after returning. While the values seemed similar, he was a different hitter.

Before the injury, he posted a 28% K% (.196 AVG), and he was able to drop it to a 19% K% after the injury (.222 AVG). The improved contact came with a tradeoff, with all his power metrics down (.158 ISO to .126 ISO, 15% Barrel% to 5% Barrel%). He showed no signs of gaining his early-season power.

On the hitting front (I’ll get to the stolen bases in a bit), he has the deadly combination of too many Strikeouts for his limited power. On their own, they aren’t an issue, but the combination is. Here are the hitters around him in HardHit%-K% (min 300 PA).

Dylan Crews Comps in Strikeout Minus Hard Hit Rate
Name PA HardHit% K% HH%-K% OPS
Gavin Lux 503 37% 23% 14% .724
Bo Naylor 414 38% 24% 14% .661
Brooks Baldwin 328 41% 26% 15% .697
Javier Báez 437 40% 25% 15% .680
Riley Greene 655 46% 31% 15% .806
Dylan Crews 322 39% 24% 15% .631
Luis Robert Jr. 431 41% 26% 15% .661
Joey Bart 332 43% 28% 15% .696
Xavier Edwards 619 29% 14% 15% .695
Tyler Stephenson 342 49% 34% 15% .737
Nathaniel Lowe 609 41% 26% 15% .689
Average 454 40% 25% 15% .698

Some upward regression is expected since he has the lowest OPS of the group. Also, it’s nice to see Greene, Robert, and Edwards on the list since they got drafted ahead of Crews. Overall though, it’s an uninspiring list.

The 17 SB saved Crews’ fantasy value, and the hope is that he’ll double them with a mid-30s total. There could even be hope of more since he stole 11 bags before going on the IL and just six after returning. Or he could minimize his injury risk and have a mid-20s stolen base total.

Final Take: As Dylan Crews enters in age-24 season, he needs to show improvement with his power and/or contact skills to take a step forward to be at least a league-average hitter (77 wRC+ in ’15). His steals can be valuable as long as he’s not a drain in other categories. If he were on a better team, there would be a risk of a demotion, but the Nationals will have nothing to play for and will keep sending him out.

 

Jakob Marsee (Pick 148): The one person I wrote about in my waiver wire report that I’ve got the most feedback on was Marsee. After the trade deadline, a spot opened up for him with Jesús Sánchez going to the Astros. All I wrote was:

Jakob Marsee: Just promoted to the majors while batting .246/.379/.438 with 14 HR and 57 SB in AAA.

In fairness, I didn’t care much about his overall game, but just the 57 bases he stole. At that point in the season in a Roto league, several teams could use a boost in stolen bases, and that’s what the 24-year-old provided … and more. In 235 PA (55 G), he had 5 HR, 14 SB, and a .292 AVG. While he didn’t start batting at the top of the lineup, he eventually got there by rotating through the top three spots. So, what to expect in 2026?

Starting off, here are players with similar projections to his Steamer600, where he ranks as the 144th-best option.

Not the league’s best hitters, but all provide a good number of stolen bases and a dozen or so home runs if they are given a full-time role. But those batting averages. Woof.

Our 3-year ZiPS projections agree with Steamer, non-zero power, and a good number of stolen bases, but with a near .200 AVG.

The disconnect between Marsee’s 2025 season and this projection is the 60 points or more in batting average. I’m going to go against this projection (hopefully, a clearer picture emerges once other projections become available).

I can see why the projections are not a fan of him after, in the minors, he posted a .200 AVG in ’24 and a .246 AVG in ’24. Those are over 1000 PA against weaker competition to help drag down his overall projection. On the positive side:

  1. He posted a .283 xAVG, not much lower than his .292 AVG.
  2. He maintains a reasonable strikeout rate and won’t need a high BABIP to keep his batting average up.
  3. I have three batted ball and swing comps I can run. They average out to a .245 AVG and .280 BABIP. By increasing his rate stats by 13 points, the comps are better, but still not great.

Final Take: Jakob Marsee should be amongst the league leaders in stolen bases with double-digit home runs if given a full-time role. The biggest disagreement will be with his batting average. Will it be closer to the projections, .200 AVG to .220 AVG, or the nearly .300 AVG hitter he was in 2025.

 

Jac Caglianone (Pick 161): Caglianone’s 2025 minor league stats (1.025 OPS) compared to Nick Kurtz (1.090 OPS), but they were opposites once promoted to the majors. Kurtz nearly matched his minor league production with a 1.002 OPS. Caglianone was at half that number (.532 OPS).

Caglianone dealt with a mid-season hamstring strain, but the effects of it didn’t drag him down since he hit worse before going on the IL (.485 OPS) than after it (.643 OPS). No reasonable fantasy manager is aiming for a .643 OPS with an earlier round pick.

He struggled in all aspects of his game, with the main drags being a .172 BABIP and a 50% GB%, especially with a Sprint Speed in the bottom third of the league. He’s not beating out many throws to first base. Additionally, his power was good but not elite.

I hate to go with the answer (upward) “regression”, but all his comps and projections point to a .245 to .250 AVG. Say, he hits .250 with 25 HR (if he repeats 2025, he should have a high teens home run number) and no stolen bases. Those numbers are comparable to the Andrew Vaughn, Brett Baty, and Josh Bell level of batter. Not a top-10 round talent.

Now, if Caglianone can push those numbers to 30 and a .265 AVG, he’s more in the Riley Greene and Austin Riley talent level. Or he could repeat his 2025 season and be unrosterable. Nobody knows.

Final Take: Fantasy managers need to have a reality check when it comes to Jac Caglianone. Since he’s only shown the ability to hit for power in the majors, he’s just an accumulator. There is no hope for more than 1 or 2 SB, but he could be a positive contributor in batting average. Or he could repeat 2025 and be nearly unplayable. Gamble away.

 

Kerry Carpenter (Pick 163): As long as he’s healthy (see 2024), Carpenter is the easiest 25 HR, 0 SB, .265 AVG, and 460 PA projection. In two of his last three seasons, these numbers were almost identical, and the value wasn’t there in 2024 when he dealt with a back injury. In 2025, he came in as the 122nd-rated hitter and the 116th in 2023. A safe bet would be between the 110th and 130th hitter in 2026.

The 28-year-old sees limited at-bats because he struggles against lefties. Over his career, he has a .866 OPS against righties and a .606 OPS against lefties. He didn’t show much improvement last season with a .638 OPS against lefties.

With his consistency, the key is to find any possible upside. The most obvious would be batting against lefties, where he’d see his three counting stats go up but his batting average drop. There aren’t any other areas for him to improve unless he goes full Josh Naylor and starts stealing bases out of nowhere. He is who we thought he was.

Final Take: While a strong-side platoon bat, the consistent Kerry Carpenter is a solid bet to hit around a .265 AVG with 25 HR.


Outfield 2025 Fantasy Rankings

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The outfield pool thins out every season and it seems to happen quickly this season. Here is how I would approach them when creating a draft plan. 

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How OF Depth has Made OF Shallow for Ottoneu

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Sunday morning, at 7 am (which felt like 6 after springing forward), I sat down at my computer, started the auction for Ottoneu league 1199 and immediately dropped $88 on Juan Soto. Spending $88 on one player isn’t something I would typically do and (as much as I would like to) I can’t blame the early hour. When prepping for the draft a couple of days earlier, I had put $90 as a target price for Soto…and then upped it to $95. $88 wasn’t me panicking, sleep-bidding, or just going all out to get my guy – it was very much the plan. And it’s all because OF has become so deep that it’s shallow.

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Beat the Shift Podcast – Outfield & THE BAT Episode w/ Derek Carty

The Outfield & THE BAT episode of the Beat the Shift Podcast – a baseball podcast for fantasy baseball players.

Guest: Derek Carty

THE BAT Projections

  • Projections accuracy contest on FantasyPros
    • What is the best way to test projections accuracy?
  • What are the key components of a projection system?
  • What is the difference between THE BAT & THE BAT X?
  • THE BAT methodolgy
    • Details on weighting of years
    • Runs & RBI
    • Stolen bases
    • Accounting for park factors for new stadium dimensions

Strategy Section

  • Positional Eligibilty
    • Which is more valuable for 2025 – 2B, 3B or OF?
    • The value of multi-position eligible players
  • Outfield strategy
    • Player pool
    • Should you draft an elite outfielder?
    • Are there certain statistics that you should acquire from your outfielders?

ATC Undervalued Players

Injury Update

 

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Outfield ADP Market Report: 1/28/2025

Sep 21, 2024; Arlington, Texas, USA; Texas Rangers outfielder Wyatt Langford (36) slides under a tag attempt by Seattle Mariners shortstop Leo Rivas (76) during the sixth inning at Globe Life Field. Mandatory Credit: Andrew Dieb-Imagn Images

 

As we hit the beginning of draft season, it is important to monitor where players are being drafted on a regular basis. Throughout draft season, I will be doing that work for you with regular updates on the Average Draft Position on NFBC up until Opening Day. You can read all the Market Reports here.

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Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Outfield

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After a year hiatus, I’ll be presenting my Ottoneu tiered positional rankings alongside Chad. If you’re wondering about the format and methodology, you can find all of that in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: OF

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

In Ottoneu, you’re afforded five starting spots for your outfielders. That creates a situation where the position is simultaneously deep and shallow. The top of the position is filled with superstars but you’ll be able to find solid production all the way down into the middle tiers. There does seem to be a pretty significant drop off once you get 40 deep which means you’ll likely be filling out the last couple of spots in your outfield with flawed players. Generally, if you’re able to fill at least three of your OF spots with full-time, consistent contributors, you can grab a handful of low cost players to mix and match and platoon based on matchups.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 1 & 2
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 Aaron Judge OF $55-$65 1304.10 8.92 2.02 $66-$77
2 Juan Soto OF $55-$65 1173.30 7.51 1.69 $55-$65
3 Ronald Acuña Jr. OF $45-$54 986.70 7.91 1.73 $36-$44
4 Yordan Alvarez OF $45-$54 1022.70 7.53 1.74 $45-$54
5 Kyle Tucker OF $45-$54 900.20 6.74 1.57 $36-$44

You can’t go wrong with either of these guys at the top of the rankings. Chad has Judge in a tier all on his own above Soto but I think they’re closer in value simply based on Soto’s age. On that basis alone, you could make an argument that Soto should be ranked first — I won’t make that argument, but you could.

I understand the trepidation behind Chad ranking Acuña lower in his rankings, but the projections absolutely believe that he’ll return from his knee injury and simply continue producing like one of the best players in baseball. It probably won’t be as simple as that, but the talent is undeniable and he’s still just 27 years old.

I also have Tucker and Tatis Jr. swapped in the rankings and that’s mostly due to the wide gap in the projections between the two. There’s a pretty significant cliff between the two of them, and all things considered, I’d rather have Tucker around $50 than Tatis Jr. at the same price.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 3 & 4
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
6 Fernando Tatis Jr. OF $36-$44 815.70 6.27 1.41 $45-$54
7 Kyle Schwarber OF $36-$44 954.10 6.24 1.38 $36-$44
8 Corbin Carroll OF $36-$44 897.80 5.88 1.37 $36-$44
9 Julio Rodríguez OF $36-$44 845.00 5.74 1.30 $36-$44
10 Jackson Chourio OF $36-$44 798.40 5.37 1.31 $28-$35
11 Mike Trout OF $28-$35 644.30 6.43 1.47 $28-$35
12 Brent Rooker OF $28-$35 887.00 6.15 1.47 $21-$27

Although they’re in the same tier as Chad, I’ve ranked that trio of young outfielders a little lower ordinally. Both Carroll and Rodríguez struggled to some degree in 2024 and Chourio only just got his first taste of the big leagues last year. The sky’s the limit for all three of them, but I think you’re going to suffer though some growing pains with all of them before they really hit their ceiling.

I originally had Trout in the tier above in my first draft of these rankings but I think I agree with Chad; we really just don’t know what to expect from him anymore and the reality is that you’re probably paying for a partial season and will be pleasantly surprised if he can stay healthy for 150 games.

I also have Rooker a tier above Chad though ordinally ranked the same. I believe in the changes he’s made to his plate approach last year and the contact quality is undeniable. Plus, he’ll be playing in a much friendlier home ballpark in Sacramento.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 5
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
13 Jarren Duran OF $21-$27 876.80 6.14 1.36 $15-$20
14 Christian Yelich OF $21-$27 749.00 6.04 1.37 $21-$27
15 Seiya Suzuki OF $21-$27 789.10 5.84 1.35 $21-$27
16 Riley Greene OF $21-$27 731.00 5.61 1.30 $21-$27
17 Bryan Reynolds OF $21-$27 843.20 5.60 1.27 $21-$27
18 Anthony Santander OF $21-$27 846.60 5.54 1.30 $15-$20
19 Teoscar Hernández OF $21-$27 829.80 5.43 1.29 $21-$27
20 Ian Happ OF $21-$27 832.60 5.41 1.25 $15-$20
21 Jackson Merrill OF $21-$27 820.80 5.34 1.36 $21-$27
22 Michael Harris II OF $21-$27 687.40 5.34 1.28 $21-$27

This is a really interesting tier because you’ll find stable veterans who will consistently produce in Yelich, Suzuki, and Reynolds alongside youngsters who broke out last year in Duran, Greene, Merrill. Do you want that stability or would you rather dream on a guy who could grow? I think most Ottoneu players would say the latter, which means the former is a little undervalued, especially for teams who need just a piece or two to push for a championship.

I like Duran a bit more than Chad and a lot more than the projections. Duran improved his barrel rate by nearly four points while simultaneously improving his plate discipline in his breakout 2024 season. Steamer sees a pretty significant step back from that level of production but I believe in the changes and think he can replicate it this season.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 6 & 7
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
23 James Wood OF $15-$20 623.90 5.55 1.27 $15-$20
24 Kerry Carpenter OF $15-$20 555.70 5.37 1.36 $15-$20
25 Steven Kwan OF $15-$20 761.50 5.36 1.19 $15-$20
26 Brandon Nimmo OF $15-$20 795.40 5.35 1.22 $15-$20
27 Tyler O’Neill OF $15-$20 580.00 5.31 1.27 $10-$14
28 Jorge Soler OF $15-$20 713.90 5.28 1.28 $10-$14
29 Cody Bellinger 1B/OF $15-$20 698.30 5.25 1.25 $10-$14
30 Lawrence Butler OF $15-$20 659.90 5.23 1.27 $15-$20
31 Wyatt Langford OF $15-$20 707.00 5.11 1.21 $15-$20
32 Luis Robert Jr. OF $15-$20 658.20 5.11 1.20 $15-$20
33 Jung Hoo Lee 이정후 OF $10-$14 637.30 5.65 1.23 $6-$9
34 Byron Buxton OF $10-$14 570.30 5.29 1.30 $6-$9
35 Jurickson Profar OF $10-$14 776.50 5.23 1.24 $6-$9
36 TJ Friedl OF $10-$14 590.90 5.09 1.22 $3-$5
37 Taylor Ward OF $10-$14 722.90 5.07 1.18 $10-$14
38 Heliot Ramos OF $10-$14 651.80 5.06 1.22 $6-$9
39 Spencer Steer 1B/OF $10-$14 756.00 5.06 1.21 $10-$14
40 Randy Arozarena OF $10-$14 753.10 4.95 1.17 $6-$9

For Soler and Bellinger, I think their new home ballparks will give them both a boost into a higher tier.

Lee and Buxton both have great projections but their health is a huge question mark. If you’re okay with that risk, they could both be really solid players for your team, except they may only be available for half a season.

Friedl is probably the biggest disagreement between me and Chad’s rankings. I get that all of Friedl’s underlying batted ball metrics look pretty terrible, but his plate approach is stellar and I think there’s a bit of Isaac Paredes in him. His pull rate was over 48% in 2024 and I think he’s selective enough to do damage on his pulled contact while still slapping singles around the field. The biggest reason his production fell last year was because his BABIP cratered to .229; in 2023 when he posted a 115 wRC+, his BABIP was just a hair above league average at .308. He also doesn’t have a traditional platoon split; rather, he has a reverse split where he’s been able to thrive against left-handed pitching by putting the ball in play while reserving all of his pulled and elevated contact against right-handed pitching.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 8-11
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
41 Matt Wallner OF $6-$9 479.40 5.18 1.32 $6-$9
42 Nolan Jones OF $6-$9 502.80 5.05 1.27 $6-$9
43 Lars Nootbaar OF $6-$9 572.00 4.95 1.25 $10-$14
44 Lourdes Gurriel Jr. OF $6-$9 661.70 4.91 1.19 $6-$9
45 Nick Castellanos OF $6-$9 741.20 4.79 1.16 $3-$5
46 Adolis García OF $6-$9 715.40 4.78 1.15 $6-$9
47 Lane Thomas OF $6-$9 675.10 4.78 1.15 $3-$5
48 Dylan Crews OF $6-$9 522.00 4.78 1.06 $6-$9
49 George Springer OF $6-$9 692.60 4.75 1.09 $3-$5
50 Josh Lowe OF $6-$9 545.70 4.74 1.23 $6-$9
51 Michael Toglia 1B/OF $6-$9 527.50 4.71 1.17 $6-$9
52 Parker Meadows OF $6-$9 470.80 4.71 1.10 $6-$9
53 JJ Bleday OF $6-$9 657.10 4.67 1.12 $3-$5
54 Colton Cowser OF $6-$9 637.50 4.59 1.19 $10-$14
55 LaMonte Wade Jr. 1B/OF $6-$9 534.00 4.56 1.21 $6-$9
56 Jasson Domínguez OF $6-$9 529.00 4.55 1.17 $6-$9
57 Wilyer Abreu OF $6-$9 521.80 4.42 1.21 $6-$9
58 Luke Raley 1B/OF $6-$9 539.00 4.37 1.24 $1-$2
59 Garrett Mitchell OF $3-$5 403.70 4.77 1.17 $1-$2
60 Trevor Larnach OF $3-$5 477.90 4.62 1.17 $3-$5
61 Heston Kjerstad OF $3-$5 327.10 4.57 1.12 $1-$2
62 Brenton Doyle OF $3-$5 655.50 4.55 1.13 $6-$9
63 Jordan Walker OF $3-$5 487.60 4.50 1.14 $6-$9
64 Victor Robles OF $3-$5 472.70 4.49 1.13 $1-$2
65 Starling Marte OF $3-$5 420.80 4.43 1.09 $1-$2
66 Alec Burleson 1B/OF $3-$5 574.00 4.40 1.13 $6-$9
67 Roman Anthony OF $3-$5 270.60 4.40 1.10 $6-$9
68 Evan Carter OF $3-$5 361.00 4.39 1.10 $6-$9
69 Michael Conforto OF $3-$5 548.50 4.37 1.14 $6-$9
70 Jesse Winker OF $3-$5 545.50 4.34 1.16 $1-$2
71 Jesús Sánchez OF $3-$5 582.00 4.33 1.17 $6-$9
72 Brandon Marsh OF $3-$5 566.90 4.30 1.20 $3-$5
73 Ryan O’Hearn 1B/OF $3-$5 516.30 4.27 1.20 $3-$5
74 Jake McCarthy OF $3-$5 550.60 4.26 1.16 $3-$5
75 Max Kepler OF $3-$5 491.50 4.24 1.10 $1-$2
76 Jake Fraley OF $3-$5 465.80 4.22 1.18 $1-$2
77 Cedric Mullins OF $3-$5 578.30 4.19 1.13 $1-$2
78 Pete Crow-Armstrong OF $3-$5 482.50 3.78 1.05 $1-$2
79 James Outman OF $1-$2 482.70 4.51 1.21 $0-$1
80 Kris Bryant 1B/OF $1-$2 364.00 4.41 1.03 $1-$2
81 Miguel Andujar OF $1-$2 299.70 4.40 1.02 $0
82 Randal Grichuk OF $1-$2 458.60 4.33 1.25 $0-$1
83 Nathan Lukes OF $1-$2 189.00 4.31 1.11 $0
84 Austin Hays OF $1-$2 479.20 4.26 1.11 $0
85 Tommy Pham OF $1-$2 511.20 4.23 1.04 $0
86 Jhonkensy Noel 1B/OF $1-$2 301.70 4.17 1.16 $1-$2
87 Alex Verdugo OF $1-$2 591.60 4.14 1.00 $0
88 Andrew Benintendi OF $1-$2 565.30 4.13 1.02 $0-$1
89 Mike Tauchman OF $1-$2 439.40 4.11 1.11 $1-$2
90 Chas McCormick OF $1-$2 437.10 4.09 1.12 $0-$1
91 Griffin Conine OF $1-$2 297.80 4.07 0.96 $0
92 Esteury Ruiz OF $1-$2 378.00 4.05 1.05 $0-$1
93 Mike Yastrzemski OF $1-$2 521.50 4.00 1.10 $0
94 Andy Pages OF $1-$2 404.70 3.99 1.05 $1-$2
95 Daulton Varsho OF $1-$2 563.70 3.95 1.03 $0
96 Jerar Encarnacion OF $1-$2 161.20 3.95 1.03 $0
97 Jack Suwinski OF $1-$2 413.80 3.93 1.12 $0-$1
98 Rece Hinds OF $1-$2 83.10 3.90 1.54 $0
99 MJ Melendez OF $1-$2 515.80 3.87 1.02 $1-$2
100 Jarred Kelenic OF $1-$2 459.60 3.87 1.04 $0
101 Mark Canha 1B/OF $0-$1 514.70 4.13 1.10 $0-$1
102 Pavin Smith 1B/OF $0-$1 294.20 4.09 1.14 $1-$2
103 Hunter Renfroe OF $0-$1 481.10 4.02 1.06 $0
104 Sean Bouchard OF $0-$1 129.70 3.91 1.05 $0-$1
105 Bryan De La Cruz OF $0-$1 531.10 3.90 0.96 $0-$1
106 Wenceel Pérez OF $0-$1 390.50 3.80 0.98 $0
107 Kyle Stowers OF $0-$1 359.30 3.70 0.97 $0-$1
108 Sal Frelick OF $0-$1 437.30 3.57 0.96 $0
109 Jo Adell OF $0-$1 409.50 3.56 1.01 $0-$1
110 Will Benson OF $0-$1 389.00 3.46 1.09 $0-$1
111 Jonny DeLuca OF $0-$1 361.00 3.27 0.90 $0-$1
112 Jose Siri OF $0-$1 367.30 3.23 0.93 $0-$1
113 Chase DeLauter OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
114 Walker Jenkins OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
115 Emmanuel Rodriguez OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
116 Max Clark OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
117 Charlie Condon Util $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
118 Owen Caissie OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
119 Braden Montgomery Util $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
120 Colby Thomas OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2

I think the other big difference between me and Chad — and this is going to be true for every position — is that I just don’t value prospects all that highly. If I’m rostering a prospect, I want them to be nearly MLB-ready, have a clear path to playing time in the near future, and they need to have a high FV grade. Rostering a 50 FV prospect who is two to three years away from even sniffing the majors just doesn’t feel like good value to me. By the time they’re established and producing for your fantasy team, their salary is likely to be $5-$7 higher than what you’re rostering them for currently. That’s why there’s that group of prospects at the tail end of my $0-$1 tier who are all ranked higher by Chad.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 12
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
121 Ryan Noda 1B/OF $0 433.30 4.47 1.15 $0
122 Rob Refsnyder OF $0 339.80 4.08 1.25 $0-$1
123 Edward Olivares OF $0 315.50 3.92 1.10 $0
124 Harold Ramírez OF $0 388.20 3.86 1.11 $0
125 Sam Hilliard OF $0 235.20 3.85 1.15 $0
126 Ramón Laureano OF $0 372.10 3.79 1.03 $0
127 Stone Garrett OF $0 292.90 3.75 1.30 $0
128 Dane Myers OF $0 172.10 3.68 1.01 $0
129 Connor Joe 1B/OF $0 424.00 3.65 1.04 $0
130 Leody Taveras OF $0 476.80 3.57 0.99 $0
131 Jason Heyward OF $0 332.50 3.56 1.15 $0
132 Nelson Velázquez OF $0 204.30 3.54 1.05 $0-$1
133 Alek Thomas OF $0 364.80 3.53 0.97 $0
134 Mickey Moniak OF $0 349.60 3.44 0.98 $0
135 Joshua Palacios OF $0 240.70 3.42 1.05 $0
136 Blake Perkins OF $0 341.10 3.41 0.95 $0
137 Seth Brown 1B/OF $0 392.00 3.40 1.00 $0-$1
138 Drew Waters OF $0 268.40 3.39 1.00 $0
139 David Peralta OF $0 358.40 3.37 1.03 $0
140 Jacob Young OF $0 454.30 3.31 0.93 $0
141 Robbie Grossman OF $0 313.70 3.29 0.97 $0
142 Adam Duvall OF $0 301.00 3.29 0.95 $0
143 Trent Grisham OF $0 371.00 3.27 0.94 $0
144 Eddie Rosario OF $0 338.40 3.26 0.92 $0
145 Alex Call OF $0 284.20 3.22 0.92 $0
146 Victor Scott II OF $0 310.40 3.21 0.86 $0
147 Joey Gallo 1B/OF $0 295.10 3.16 0.94 $0
148 Mitch Haniger OF $0 328.10 3.15 0.85 $0-$1
149 Jake Meyers OF $0 391.90 3.14 0.92 $0
150 Kyle Isbel OF $0 388.30 3.14 0.95 $0
151 Tyrone Taylor OF $0 343.80 3.13 1.05 $0
152 Will Brennan OF $0 348.20 3.07 0.96 $0
153 Gavin Sheets 1B/OF $0 364.80 3.01 0.89 $0
154 Akil Baddoo OF $0 253.80 3.00 0.94 $0
155 Harrison Bader OF $0 354.70 3.00 0.93 $0
156 Jake Bauers 1B/OF $0 288.50 2.95 0.98 $0
157 Justyn-Henry Malloy OF $0 183.10 2.90 0.91 $0-$1
158 Joey Loperfido OF $0 242.10 2.89 0.83 $0-$1
159 Kevin Pillar OF $0 247.10 2.88 0.96 $0
160 DJ Stewart OF $0 180.50 2.85 1.05 $0
161 Dylan Carlson OF $0 252.50 2.83 0.87 $0
162 Manuel Margot OF $0 305.70 2.81 0.92 $0
163 Luis Matos OF $0 154.20 2.80 0.84 $0-$1
164 Johan Rojas OF $0 270.70 2.76 0.90 $0
165 Joey Wiemer OF $0 308.10 2.69 0.89 $0
166 Austin Slater OF $0 229.00 2.67 0.97 $0
167 Michael A. Taylor OF $0 289.90 2.62 0.89 $0
168 Dairon Blanco OF $0 196.20 2.61 1.27 $0
169 Dominic Canzone OF $0 154.00 2.60 0.91 $0
170 Michael Siani OF $0 209.90 1.93 0.74 $0
171 Dominic Fletcher OF $0 108.30 1.88 0.57 $0

Chad Young’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Outfield

I typically start with catcher and work my way around the infield, but I went straight to the outfield grass this year. Is it because OF is the most important position? Or because I have deep thoughts about OF this year? No, it is because it covers the most players which makes it the most painful to write notes for, and I wanted to be done with it.

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Ottoneu: Jake’s Keep or Cut Decisions at OF

After covering difficult keep/cut decisions at the infield positions the last few weeks, the RotoGraphs Ottoneu team will turn our attention to the outfield this week (and possibly next week too). Here are five guys on my keep/cut bubble.

Michael Harris II, OF
Salary: $27
Average Salary: $18
2024 P/G: 4.55
Projected 2025 P/G: 6.02

Michael Harris’ struggles in his third big league season were all the result of the hamstring injury that cost him two months of the season, right? When you split his season pre-injury and post-injury, things don’t really line up with that narrative. Before he hit the IL, he was posting a rather disappointing .250/.295/.358 slash line, good for an 80 wRC+ with a particularly conspicuous absence of power. After he returned from his injury, he was a lot more productive at the plate, slashing .283/.318/.506 (125 wRC+) but stole just two bases through the end of the season.

Under the hood, everything looked right in line with the norms he had established for himself through the first two seasons of his career. His hard hit rate, barrel rate, xwOBA, and wOBA were all well above league average and his aggressive high contact approach at the plate remained intact. It wasn’t just simple bad luck either, though his BABIP did fall 34 points from 2023; his BABIP was nearly exactly the same before and after his hamstring injury. The only thing I can see is a batted ball mix that was a little out of whack early in the season; his groundball rate was over 53% through mid-June and his pull rate was nearly 10 points higher than what it was the year prior. Both of those metrics came back down towards his norms in August and September and his results on balls in play benefitted.

And then there’s his Steamer projection for 2025. The computer is enamoured with his potential to breakout next year and ZiPS shares in the optimism. Harris will turn 24 under a month before Opening Day and apparently his rebound during the second half of this season was enough to convince the computers that his struggles during the first half were just a mirage.

Keep or cut?

I’m keeping Harris at $27 (or I would have if I hadn’t just traded him away in that league for a $43 Corbin Carroll). Still, that feels like a ceiling for him. It assumes the projections are right and that he’s due for a significant improvement in 2025, but it doesn’t leave much room for him to produce much surplus value if that improvement comes to fruition.

Luis Robert Jr., OF
Salary: $29
Average Salary: $28
2024 P/G: 4.03
Projected 2025 P/G: 5.07

A hip injury sustained in early April sidelined Luis Robert Jr. for two months of the season and he never really recovered once he returned to the field. Between the injury, the constant trade rumors, and the historically bad team surrounding him, it was a miserable year for Robert. His strikeout rate spiked to 33.2% and his power output dipped to just a .155 ISO as he limped to a career-worst 84 wRC+.

There’s certainly some cause for concern when looking at his peripherals. His hard hit rate dipped slightly but his barrel rate fell by more than five points. That tells me that his overall quality of contact was intact but something else in his batted ball mix was leading to a lower power output. Indeed, his pull rate fell nearly 13 points, down to 34%. In the two seasons where his pull rate has been higher than 40%, Robert has posted wRC+s of 155 (43.1% pull rate) and 128 (46.8%); in his other three seasons in the majors with a pull rate under 40%, his wRC+ has been 111 or lower.

And then there’s his plate discipline issues. He’s always been an aggressive swinger, but the amount of damage he was capable of doing on contact helped him offset some of those strikeout issues. Well, he cut his overall swing rate by more than five points but his contact rate continued a two-year downward trend so the result was a lot more called strikes and a nearly five point jump in strikeout rate.

Honestly, between the lackluster season in 2024, the injury issues, and the red flags in both his batted ball and plate discipline peripherals, it’s agonizingly difficult to evaluate Robert. We know that when everything clicks and he’s firing on all cylinders, he can be a phenomenal offensive producer, but the inconsistency will kill you. His 2025 projection isn’t very rosy either.

Keep or cut?

I’m cutting at $29 and I’d cut all the way down to around $15. Unless he’s traded to a much better team environment this offseason, I’m avoiding him wherever I can.

Spencer Steer, 1B/OF
Salary: $8, $14, $18
Average Salary: $12
2024 P/G: 4.66
Projected 2025 P/G: 5.02

I really loved Spencer Steer for his multi-positional eligibility which is why I rostered him wherever I could. Now that he’s lost 2B and 3B eligibility, I’ve got to figure out how to evaluate him as an OF with a bit of flexibility at 1B. The player pool at his new position isn’t as shallow as it was at 2B or even 3B but it can be tricky to roster five reliable outfielders to fill all five of those lineup spots in Ottoneu. He’s lost a bit of value by simply going from four eligible positions down to two, but not as much as I think you’d expect.

As for his actual on-field production, 2024 was a bit of a weird year for him. Everything in his peripherals looked stable; his batted ball data was solid and his plate discipline even slightly improved. Despite all that, his wOBA fell from .355 to .316 thanks to a 58 point drop in BABIP. There’s nothing amiss with his batted ball data or his plate approach — it really seems like he was just the victim of old fashioned bad luck.

The projections don’t see his BABIP returning to his 2023 levels and nor should they; he isn’t very fast and he elevates too much of his contact to take advantage of a high line drive rate. A BABIP just below league average is a pretty good bet to make and that’s exactly where the computer pegs him.

Keep or cut?

I’m happy to keep him up to $15 or $16 I think. $18 is probably too high, especially without the positional flexibility that made him so valuable the last few years.

Nolan Jones, OF
Salary: $10
Average Salary: $9
2024 P/G: 3.16
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.97

Are you willing to pay for a breakout that’s now two years removed? That’s the central question surrounding Nolan Jones. His season in 2024 was marred by a recurring back injury and he had plenty of issues reproducing his outstanding season from ‘23 when he was on the field. His hard hit rate actually increased by three and half points but his power production cratered despite all the hard contact. It’s not hard to figure out what happened either; his groundball rate jumped almost 10 points and his pull rate fell by more than 10 points. That’s a seriously bad combination for a power hitter.

Assuming he’s healthy in 2025, it’s difficult to know what to expect from Jones. The projection essentially splits the difference between his breakout season and injury marred season. We can be pretty assured that his .401 BABIP from 2023 won’t happen again but his power gains all looked legitimate. If he can figure out how to start pulling and elevating his contact again, his home ballpark and fantastic contact quality give him a pretty high ceiling. There are a lot of “ifs” that need to go right for his 2025 season to be successful, making the risk pretty high if you opt to keep him.

Keep or cut?

I think I’m fine with keeping at $10 but no higher. That feels like a decent price to pay for the potential that he’s healthy and figures out all his batted ball issues. It’s also cheap enough that he becomes an easy cut if his 2023 breakout turns out to be just a flash in the pan.

Matt Wallner, OF
Salary: $4 (x2)
Average Salary: $6
2024 P/G: 5.36
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.90

Chad asked me to include Wallner here because I just acquired him in one of our shared leagues in exchange for Jazz Chisholm Jr. I understand the hesitation surrounding him. He’s got an extremely volatile profile full of strikeouts and tons of power. The highs will be excellent — like the 169 wRC+ he posted from July 7 through the end of the season — but the lows will likely be unplayable. To make matters more complicated, he’s likely to be platooned heavily since he’s absolutely atrocious against left-handed pitching. Thankfully, he’s on the strong side of the platoon, but a part-time player is a little more difficult to roster.

But let’s look at what he’s capable of. The 169 wRC+ over the final three months of the season was fantastic, but that came with a .410 BABIP and a 34.2% strikeout rate. What he does have going for him is outrageously good contact quality. His hard hit and barrel rates, xwOBA, and max exit velocity all sat in the top 5% in the majors. He may not make much contact, but when he does, ball go far.

Keep or cut?

I don’t want to overhype a player because the red flags in Wallner’s profile are certainly glaring, but he’s got a lot of prime Joey Gallo in him and he was an incredibly valuable player in Ottoneu for a long time. I’m happy to keep at $4 on the chance that Wallner actually does turn into the second coming of Gallo, but even if he settles in as a lesser version of Gallo, that’s still a valuable player in a format that rewards power and patience. The ceiling is a bit trickier to determine but I think I’d keep Wallner up to $6 or $7 and there’s probably a good chance he’ll go for even more at auction.


Beat the Shift Podcast – Elias Sports Bureau w/ Matt Martingale

The Elias Sports Bureau episode of the Beat the Shift Podcast – a baseball podcast for fantasy baseball players.

Guest: Matt Martingale

LABR League Update

Elias Sports Bureau

  • What does Elias do?
  • Elias and fantasy sports
  • ATC Projections

Strategy Section

  • Spring training statistics
    • Predictive value in spring training stats
    • Players who start slow
  • Predictive value of spring training manager tendencies

Who’d You Rather?

Waiver Wire

Pitcher Preview

Injury Update

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