2017 Ottoneu FGPts Rankings: 2B/SS

Last Friday we kicked off our ottoneu FanGraphs points league rankings. This year the rankings will include values from myself, Justin Vibber, and Chad Young. We are presenting our individual dollar values, the average of all three individuals, plus the ranking of that average. In addition the tables below include ottoneu eligibility (5 games started/10 games played in the prior year). Players are ranked at their most valuable position, and the hierarchy we are using is C/SS/2B/3B/OF/1B (with 3B and OF being a coin toss in terms of replacement level, we chose to include 3B/OF eligibles at 3B).

Prior Rankings: C/1B/3B

Key:
Split – Difference from highest to lowest $ value
Otto.– Average price across Ottoneu FGpts leagues
AVG. – Average $ value from the four of us
(+/-) – Difference between Ottoneu average price and our average $ value

Ottoneu FGPts – 2B
Rnk Name Team Elig Justin Joe Chad Split Otto AVG (+/-)
1 Jose Altuve Astros 2B $39 $36 $37 $3 $35 $37 $2
2 Matt Carpenter Cardinals 1B/2B/3B $32 $33 $30 $3 $25 $32 $7
2 Daniel Murphy Nationals 1B/2B $30 $32 $33 $3 $17 $32 $14
4 Robinson Cano Mariners 2B $32 $32 $29 $3 $33 $31 ($2)
5 DJ LeMahieu Rockies 2B $21 $26 $24 $5 $9 $24 $15
6 Brian Dozier Twins 2B $25 $19 $21 $6 $19 $22 $3
7 Ben Zobrist Cubs 2B/OF $20 $20 $21 $1 $22 $20 ($1)
8 Rougned Odor Rangers 2B $23 $15 $20 $8 $14 $19 $6
9 Dustin Pedroia Red Sox 2B $19 $17 $20 $3 $16 $19 $3
10 Jason Kipnis Indians 2B $22 $16 $16 $6 $21 $18 ($3)
11 Ian Kinsler Tigers 2B $16 $14 $12 $4 $18 $14 ($4)
12 Neil Walker Mets 2B $14 $12 $13 $2 $11 $13 $2
13 Logan Forsythe Rays 2B $14 $12 $12 $2 $6 $13 $6
14 Devon Travis Blue Jays 2B $12 $12 $10 $2 $7 $11 $4
15 Steve Pearce Blue Jays 1B/2B/OF $11 $10 $10 $1 $5 $10 $5
16 Joe Panik Giants 2B $6 $9 $6 $3 $7 $7 $1
16 Yangervis Solarte Padres 2B/3B $9 $6 $6 $3 $5 $7 $2
18 Ryan Schimpf Padres 2B/3B $9 $5 $3 $6 $4 $6 $1
19 Derek Dietrich Marlins 1B/2B/3B/OF $6 $5 $4 $2 $4 $5 $1
20 Yoan Moncada Red Sox 2B $0 $12 $0 $12 $12 $4 ($8)
21 Howie Kendrick Phillies 1B/2B/3B/OF $4 $2 $4 $2 $4 $3 ($1)
22 Jonathan Schoop Orioles 2B $3 $2 $2 $1 $7 $2 ($5)
23 Dee Gordon Marlins 2B $2 $1 $2 $1 $11 $2 ($9)
24 Ian Happ Cubs 2B/OF $0 $4 $0 $4 $0 $1 $1
24 Wilmer Flores Mets 1B/2B/3B $2 $1 $1 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
24 Kolten Wong Cardinals 2B/OF $1 $1 $2 $1 $8 $1 ($6)
24 Brandon Drury Diamondbacks 2B/3B/OF $1 $2 $1 $1 $5 $1 ($4)
24 Cesar Hernandez Phillies 2B $1 $2 $1 $1 $4 $1 ($2)
29 Josh Harrison Pirates 2B $1 $2 $0 $2 $8 $1 ($7)
30 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B $0 $2 $0 $2 $3 $1 ($2)
30 Tommy La Stella Cubs 2B/3B $1 $0 $1 $1 $0 $1 $1
30 Scooter Gennett Brewers 2B $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
30 Starlin Castro Yankees 2B $1 $1 $0 $1 $12 $1 ($11)
34 Rob Refsnyder Yankees 1B/2B/3B/OF $1 $0 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($5)
34 Kiké Hernandez Dodgers 2B/OF $1 $0 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($3)
34 Chris Coghlan 0 2B/3B/OF $1 $0 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($3)
34 Brett Lawrie White Sox 2B $1 $0 $0 $1 $7 $0 ($7)
Total # 34 32 27
Total $ $382 $364 $341

Observations:

  • There’s a clear drop after the top 4 with all three of us having different preferences on how to organize the next tier. Chad and I are higher LeMahieu, while Justin prefers Kipnis and Dozier to the Rockies 2B.
  • Rougned Odor has the largest value split from my $15 value to Justin’s $23 value. while projections slot him solidly into the 2nd tier of 2B, I prefer most of the other options within that group to him due to plate discipline issues.
  • Moncada, Happ, and Calhoun are the 3 2B prospects who make an appearance on these rankings. Not everyone ranked prospects, so I wouldn’t use the aggregate values as a barometer of their expected price.
  • While we all ranked nearly similar totals of players, Justin allocated more money to the position. This is most easily seen in the middle tier.
Ottoneu FGPts – SS
Rnk Name Team Elig Justin Joe Chad Split Otto AVG (+/-)
1 Manny Machado Orioles 3B/SS $49 $52 $48 $4 $40 $50 $10
2 Carlos Correa Astros SS $40 $40 $34 $6 $31 $38 $8
3 Corey Seager Dodgers SS $39 $40 $31 $9 $23 $37 $13
4 Trea Turner Nationals 2B/OF/SS $34 $30 $30 $4 $14 $31 $18
5 Trevor Story Rockies SS $31 $24 $23 $8 $12 $26 $14
6 Francisco Lindor Indians SS $28 $28 $21 $7 $18 $26 $8
7 Xander Bogaerts Red Sox SS $29 $20 $25 $9 $25 $25 ($0)
8 Alex Bregman Astros 3B/SS $23 $25 $17 $8 $9 $22 $13
9 Aledmys Diaz Cardinals SS $23 $18 $21 $5 $7 $21 $14
10 Troy Tulowitzki Blue Jays SS $20 $16 $14 $6 $23 $17 ($6)
11 Jonathan Villar Brewers 2B/3B/SS $20 $16 $13 $7 $7 $16 $9
12 Brad Miller Rays 1B/SS $14 $13 $15 $2 $8 $14 $6
13 Jean Segura Mariners 2B/SS $10 $8 $7 $3 $8 $8 ($0)
14 Dansby Swanson Braves SS $10 $9 $4 $6 $8 $8 ($0)
15 Marcus Semien Athletics SS $8 $6 $7 $2 $10 $7 ($3)
16 Asdrubal Cabrera Mets SS $7 $8 $4 $4 $5 $6 $1
17 Jedd Gyorko Cardinals 1B/2B/3B/SS $5 $7 $5 $2 $5 $6 $1
18 Brandon Crawford Giants SS $6 $7 $1 $6 $8 $5 ($3)
18 Addison Russell Cubs SS $8 $4 $2 $6 $13 $5 ($8)
20 Jhonny Peralta Cardinals 3B/SS $5 $3 $3 $2 $5 $4 ($2)
21 Jose Reyes Mets 3B/SS $6 $2 $1 $5 $5 $3 ($2)
22 Javier Baez Cubs 2B/3B/SS $2 $4 $2 $2 $12 $3 ($9)
22 Jorge Polanco Twins 2B/3B/SS $5 $3 $0 $5 $3 $3 ($1)
24 Gleyber Torres Yankees SS $0 $7 $0 $7 $0 $2 $2
24 Amed Rosario Mets SS $0 $7 $0 $7 $0 $2 $2
24 Eduardo Nunez Giants 3B/SS $5 $2 $0 $5 $4 $2 ($2)
24 Matt Duffy Rays 3B/SS $3 $2 $2 $1 $6 $2 ($4)
28 Brendan Rodgers Rockies SS $0 $6 $0 $6 $0 $2 $2
28 Willy Adames Rays SS $0 $6 $0 $6 $0 $2 $2
28 Elvis Andrus Rangers SS $3 $3 $0 $3 $6 $2 ($4)
28 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS $0 $6 $0 $6 $5 $2 ($3)
32 Jurickson Profar Rangers 1B/2B/3B/OF/SS $1 $2 $2 $1 $6 $2 ($4)
33 Jose Peraza Reds 2B/OF/SS $2 $2 $0 $2 $5 $1 ($4)
34 Didi Gregorius Yankees SS $1 $2 $0 $2 $4 $1 ($3)
34 Tim Anderson White Sox SS $2 $1 $0 $2 $4 $1 ($3)
36 Ketel Marte Diamondbacks SS $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 ($4)
36 Zack Cozart Reds SS $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
36 Chris Owings Diamondbacks OF/SS $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
36 Nick Franklin Rays 1B/2B/OF/SS $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
40 Sean Rodriguez Braves 1B/2B/3B/OF/SS $0 $1 $0 $1 $3 $0 ($2)
40 Orlando Arcia Brewers SS $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($5)
40 Franklin Barreto Athletics 2B/SS $0 $1 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($3)
40 Ozzie Albies Braves 2B/SS $0 $1 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
Total # 34 43 24
Total $ $443 $437 $332

Observations:

  • Machado will likely play 3B for most of the season, but he remains the number 1 SS due to his eligibility at the position (thanks JJ Hardy). After him, you have Correa and Seager, then a drop to the next tier.
  • Seager and Bogaerts display the biggest splits on our values. Chad has Seager and Turner basically equal. While Justin and I have Seager in a virtual tie for second with Carlos Correa. I am the low man on Bogaerts at $20, putting him at or near the bottom of a very good 3rd tier at SS.
  • While we all love Trea Turner at the top of the 3rd tier, much of that tier (Turner, Story, Lindor, Bogaerts, Bregman, Diaz) could be re-ordered depending on preference. All of those options are viable for championship clubs.
  • Prospects ranked include Swanson, Torres, Rosario, Crawford, Rodgers, Adames, Barreto, and Albies. (Orlando Arcia and Tim Anderson, while not prospects, could be lumped near the bottom of this group as well.)
  • Not everyone ranked SS. Keep in mind the players ranked, not their aggregate values.





Joe works at a consulting firm in Pittsburgh. When he isn't working or studying for actuarial exams, he focuses on baseball. He also writes @thepointofpgh. Follow him on twitter @Ottoneutrades

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strosfanmember
7 years ago

Good info, keep it coming!