The 2024 Most Polarizing Starting Pitchers
Last week, I identified and discussed the most polarizing hitters, according to NFBC ADP Min/Max Pick. Today, let’s shift over to starting pitchers. In general, I would expect more disagreement on a pitcher at a particular ADP than a hitter with a similar ADP, but the numbers don’t suggest that to be the case, at least this year. Let’s dive in.
| Player | ADP | Min Pick | Max Pick | Difference | Super Secret Ranking Formula* |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spencer Strider | 8 | 1 | 19 | 18 | 25.3 |
| Kodai Senga | 169 | 52 | 359 | 307 | 16.6 |
| Lucas Giolito | 275 | 157 | 741 | 584 | 13.4 |
| Tarik Skubal | 52 | 25 | 100 | 75 | 11.9 |
| Kevin Gausman | 33 | 16 | 59 | 43 | 11.2 |
| Walker Buehler | 190 | 82 | 299 | 217 | 11.1 |
| Gerrit Cole | 16 | 8 | 27 | 19 | 10.5 |
| Zack Wheeler | 29 | 17 | 56 | 39 | 10.3 |
| Zac Gallen | 43 | 20 | 65 | 45 | 10.1 |
| Tyler Glasnow | 45 | 26 | 84 | 58 | 10.1 |
| Grayson Rodriguez | 71 | 40 | 124 | 84 | 9.7 |
| Corbin Burnes | 23 | 13 | 40 | 27 | 9.7 |
| Luis Castillo | 35 | 18 | 55 | 37 | 9.6 |
| Yoshinobu Yamamoto | 40 | 22 | 65 | 43 | 9.3 |
Wow, that’s quite the pick disparity for Spencer Strider, the starting pitcher universally projected as by far the most valuable, no matter which projection system you use. I would never, ever, ever draft a pitcher first overall, but I can’t comprehend that at least one league allowed him to slip to 19th overall! I’m actually pretty impressed with fantasy owners that his 3.86 ERA last year isn’t scaring anyone away, as there must be at least one savvy owner in each league looking deeper at both his 2.86 SIERA and, of course, his insane mid-to-high 30% strikeout rate.
Clearly, Kodai Senga’s shoulder injury has crushed his ADP, while Lucas Giolito’s elbow injury may cost him the season. This is why it’s so risky to draft early, and even more frustrating when either of these names are on your team.
So, Tarik Skubal undergoes flexor tendon surgery that ended his 2022 season early and resulted in a late start to the 2023 season, then returns with significantly more velocity and becomes elite. Maybe everyone should undergo that surgery! The skills are great and I think he could close to replicating, assuming his velocity spike holds. But don’t forget that he still pitches in front of a terrible offense (wins could be hard to come by), the bullpen isn’t very good, and how many innings he’ll be able to throw is a real question mark. So while I think he absolutely has the upside to earn his Min Pick of 25, I ain’t gambling at that price, though his Max Pick of 100 is pretty absurd.
Since early March, Kevin Gausman has been dealing with shoulder fatigue and has since thrown a bullpen session. It’s likely that this injury has knocked down his price a bit and you never know how it will affect him or how long it could linger. When healthy, he has been elite now for four straight seasons, as he was finally able to translate his mid-to-high 90s fastball into strikeouts.
Walker Buehler is yet another whose price is being affected by his health status. His 2022 season was cut short when he ultimately underwent TJ surgery and flexor tendon repair, and he has only pitched two Triple-A innings since. He’s been throwing live batting practice, but his return date remains up in the air. And of course, even when he does return, it’s anyone’s guess how the long layoff and recovery affects his performance. Since he was never a big swing and miss guy and recorded strikeouts more through called strikes, I was never his biggest fan. Still, it worked for him and he obviously has fantasy impact potential. It really just depends on your other choices when deciding whether to draft him as a wait and see.
After Strider, Gerrit Cole is the second top 20 overall pick that apparently fantasy owners aren’t fully agreeing on. His 2023 performance is actually opposite Strider’s — he actually overperformed his SIERA, all the while his strikeout rate plunged to its lowest since 2017…when he was still with the Pirates. His SwStk% also hit its lowest since then, even though his pitch mix was the same. His velocity was down some, but still in line with his pre-2021 days, before it spiked for two seasons. I’m not sure what to think here, do you bet on the 33-year-old’s strikeout rate jumping back over 30%? If not, then he’s seemingly a weak pick at 16th overall.
Zack Wheeler’s ERA jumped above 3.00 for the first time since 2019 last year, and his SIERA jumped as well, supporting a decline in underlying skills. He’s another top tier pitcher I have never been able to fully get behind given his typically lackluster SwStk% and CSW%. It might explain why I’ve never owned him and this won’t be the year that changes.
Sheesh, Zac Gallen looks like a clone of Wheeler, who I just poo-pooed for meh SwStk% and CSW% marks. Gallen is no different, and yet I somehow ended up drafting him in LABR mixed. Of course, it’s all about price. I snagged Gallen at 53rd overall, versus an ADP of 43, so some additional downside was priced in there and there was too much of a drop-off to the next group of starters for me to go yet another round without rostering one. I’m not sure what’s driving the large discrepancy in picks, though the projections also aren’t sure what to expect, for both his strikeout rate and ERA.
The oft-injured Tyler Glasnow must be maddening to own. Last year’s 120 innings was actually a career best for him. But when he’s on the mound, man is he good, with strikeout rates well above 30%, supported by mid-teen SwStk% and over 30% CSW% marks. That’s a pretty big range for a pitcher everyone agrees is really good, which is likely a testament to a league’s risk aversion to injury prone pitchers. He’s the type of guy I love in shallower leagues where replacement level is higher and it’s less damaging if and when he lands on the IL.
It was a tale of two seasons for former top prospect Grayson Rodriguez. Over his first 10 games spanning 45.1 innings, he posted a bloated 7.35 ERA, but still struck out 26.5% of opposing batters and his 4.15 SIERA was much more palatable. He was then demoted to the minors at the end of May, before returning in mid-July. During his second go-around, he posted a 2.58 ERA/3.88 SIERA, but his strikeout rate actually fell to just 24%. SIERA suggests he didn’t actually pitch significantly better, but all his luck metrics (BABIP, HR/FB, LOB%) improved dramatically. So his bad fortune turned around, actually overcorrecting, and suddenly he finishes with an ERA not too much higher than his season SIERA. That’s exactly how this stuff is supposed to work!
I think that return from the minors performance is now raising expectations far too high though, but he’s seemingly got the stuff and minor league history to enjoy a true skills-based breakout to earn his cost. I just wouldn’t pay that price.
Corbin Burnes moves to a more pitcher friendly home park in Baltimore, which he needs given that his strikeout rate plunged last year, along with his SwStk%. He’s in a better position than Cole given that he’s still on the right side of age 30. His cutter velocity dropped below 95 MPH, after sitting just above the last two seasons, so that might be something to monitor in spring and early season. Perhaps he needs it at 95 MPH to maintain a 30% strikeout rate.
Luis Castillo enjoyed another solid year, though his GB% fell below 40% for the first time, leading to a significant increase in HR/9. His fastball velocity did fall last year, but it didn’t affect his SwStk% or strikeout rate. I don’t see any particular reason for a disagreement here about his value.
Yoshinobu Yamamoto joins the Dodgers rotation from Japan and it’s no surprise that fantasy owners aren’t in complete agreement about his value. Because really, we’re just taking an educated guess here. He posted pretty good skills in Japan, with a career 26.4% strikeout and 5.8% walk rate, with a 27.9% strikeout rate over the past four years when it spiked. He obviously ends up in an ideal landing spot and should at least be a good fantasy starter with upside for better. I can’t imagine selecting him as early as 22 and passing up more sure things, but seems like a good deal at 65.
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So tell me — which side of the aisle do you shop in when eyeing these polarizing pitchers, the bullish or bearish side?
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I’m surprised Tanner Bibee didn’t get on this list. I’ve seen people draft him ludicrously high (like, back end of the first round), and his ADP is 105 last I checked. I love him, but I would never take him that high.
Min pick of 73 and Max pick of 178, which is actually a smaller range than most of the starters in his ADP vicinity. NFBC ADP shows his as 118 over the last 3 weeks. I think it depends on the knowledge of the league, as the less knowledgeable will draft him based on his 2.98 ERA, whereas the more knowledgeable will look deeper at his 4.19 SIERA and meh 11.1% SwStk% and 27.6% CSW%.
Admittedly, if anyone drafted Giolito hopefully he was the 7th or 8th arm on the roster, so his loss wouldn’t be missed so much. Senga is a blow, though.
I don’t understand the Wheeler hate. There’s a lot of benefit to someone like him who’s durable and posts great but not elite numbers.
Concur. I don’t think the rankings have adjusted quite enough to the value of (quality) starter IP just yet. There are plenty of guys ranked highly this year who probably going to end up throwing 130-140 innings max. If that guy’s your #1, you’re going to spend the season under tremendous stress trying to find quality innings elsewhere. What does a Glasnow-led staff look like after he inevitably gets hurt? What does a Bobby Miller-led staff look like when the Dodgers start tapering him off at ~140 IP? I’d like those to be problems someone else has, not me.
Is there any hate? Over the last 3 weeks, he’s been the 5th pitcher off the board in NFBC leagues! I do think that’s pretty absurd, and an especially weak pick at 17, the earliest he’s gone. So perhaps you’re interpreting me thinking his ADP is too early as “hate”? I’d much prefer Luis Castillo and a healthy Gausman, though the shoulder increases his risk, who are being selected after.
But wow, starting pitchers really drop off, as there are few, if any, clear standouts above Wheeler going later than him. However, I think there are significantly better values. Like I’d much rather draft Nola at ADP 59 and Fried at ADP 62, than Wheeler at 29, even if perhaps neither outearns him.
A couple of these are polarizing, but most are here just because of the method used… the dollar difference of high picks, and when people take their top SPs. The MAX picks could also be outliers.
What about using difference between 90th and 10th percentile?
Yeah, difficult coming up with the best method, but this is certainly better than my older method of just taking the difference between max and min pick number!
90th and 10th percentile of what, though?
You would need each draft in order to calculate ADP percentile. I’m not sure that data is available, but you could approximate this! Download the last 31 days of draft data by individual date, so that you have 31 min picks and 31 max picks for each player (this involves a bit of data wrangling). Your 10th percentile min pick would be the 4th smallest and your 90th percentile max pick would be the 4th largest. Using “super secret formula” on this difference would be effective.
I’d happily bet on Luis Castillo at 35 ADP. Like Strider, Cole and Wheeler, he gets consistent high-end results but with the added risk-lowering benefit of a pitchers’ home park. Tex, LAA and Oak stadiums also favor pitchers. Average injury risk, Mariners should have winning record, etc.
I’m not quite onboard with the Grayson love that has been going around this offseason. He’s a good pitcher, but he’s being treated as just below ace status when he really isn’t there yet. FG for example has him at #13 overall, which means in plenty of a leagues he’ll be someone’s #1. Which I don’t think any owner would be too thrilled about.
He definitely could reach that level, and could be a top stud going into 2025, but it feels like at this point we’re pricing in an assumption that he will. IOW, whoever drafted him at #40 overall seems like a cuckoo bird to me.
re: “I would never ever ever draft an SP 1st overall” you clearly didn’t play fantasy back when Randy Johnson existed!
He had a 5 year stretch where his *lowest* K total was 329, lowest win total 17, his worst ERA was 3.28, worst WHIP 1.18 and lowest IP 244.1
Bests in that same span were 372 K, 271.2 IP, 24 Wins, 2.32 ERA, WHIP 1.01.
I did play! Wish our auction calculator showed historical values that far back. Would be fun to see if he actually earned top value in any of his peak years.
Despite how bonkers that era was (Bonds, Sosa, Giambi, Pedro etc) I would be surprised if he wasn’t #1 at least once!
Pedro was the consensus #1 in 2000, the first year I played fantasy. Picking anyone else would have been seen as insane.
He might have been #1 in 2001 again, though I can’t remember. Definitely top 3.
Check out “fantasywayback” – sometimes the #1 pitcher provides #1 value
I’m a bit surprised not to see Cole Ragans on this list. He’s a magnificent hype beast with tremendous small sample results and all the injury red flags you could dream of. Seems the perfect sort to be picked both very high and very low
Love the thought! I dunno if difference between min pick and max pick is the best way to get at it though – in that case it just takes one single outlier to create the appearance of significant disagreement in value.
As an example, if a player was picked 36, 66, 66, 67, 68, 68, 70, 72, 73, 112, then there is pretty strong agreement on that player’s value but you wouldn’t know it from looking at the (max – min). Maybe standard deviation or something, although that’s necessarily going to be higher for later round picks than earlier ones. It’s hard to pick a best measure of divergent sentiment but (max – min) just seems very susceptible to a single outlier.
Good callout! Agreed, this is tough without spending a lot of time gathering all the data, and I’m not sure that’s even available.
I would be curious to see this run with just Draft Champions data. For DCs, Strider’s max pick is 15 (and only 12 if you consider drafts since Feb. 1). I wonder if there are leagues with strange scoring formats that are making the data noisy like the max pick of 19 for Strider.
I don’t know enough about NFBC formats to know if there are wildly different scoring between league types that could be affecting picks. But good question.
Just curious because I’m pretty sure my RazzSlam league is driving that max pick for Strider as he went 19th (don’t blame me for his falling, as I had the third pick). But the event format is points-based and skews to heavily boost the value of power bats and saves.
RazzSlam isn’t part of NFBC so that pick isn’t part of it. No idea about the other formats that are included in the min/max pick though.