On Good Pitchers Getting Crushed
It was a Monday night just a few weeks ago that I watched the destruction of two high-quality pitchers (one is a bona fide ace) sink my DFS evening yet again and I actually wrote about it at another outlet. Just three weeks later, I saw my DFS night end before it started as another pitcher had his face caved in and this time by baseball’s worst team both by record and wRC+ against righties. Michael Pineda was rocked for eight earned on 11 hits in just 3.3 innings with nary a strikeout to soften the blow.
It’s the second time in three starts that Pineda has been blown up like this and the fourth time this year he’s allowed five or more earned runs. This is the same guy who has a 16-strikeout game on his ledger this year as well as three others of nine strikeouts. This is the same guy who had a 2.72 ERA through his first seven starts of the season.
But the volatility, my god, the volatility.
That 16-K dominance over Baltimore brought him down to that 2.72 ERA, but even including it within his last eight starts only gives him a 5.40 ERA:
It’s not that I expect quality pitchers to be flawless. Every guy has a couple bad ones in their 32 starts over a season, even the aces. But the volatility that we’ve seen from Pineda isn’t all that unique this year. Good arms seem to be getting destroyed with a shocking amount of regularity, and the weather is just now heating up so it could get worse.
I’m not talking about Shane Greene getting ripped here. He has talent and can look really good at times (and yes, I loved him coming into this year), but he wasn’t relied on as a key component to a fantasy team’s pitching success. Thus Greene leading baseball with five outings of 5 or fewer innings and 5 or more earned runs (I call ‘em Shellackings) isn’t some eye-popping surprise. It’s annoying and his 68 innings of 5.82 ERA did a number on your my fantasy teamsssssss, but this kind of stuff is happening to much better arms, too.
More on that in a moment.
First off, let’s update the chart we saw in that previous post outlining Shellackings as a whole across the league with a few additions. I added the raw number and percentage of just 5 ER outings we’re seeing this year, regardless of innings count. Then I added a column identifying the frequency with which a 5 ER outing ends up as a Shellacking:
| Year | 5+ ER Starts | Total Starts | 5+ ER% | Shellackings | Shell% | Shell% in 5 ER gms |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 916 | 4856 | 19% | 574 | 12% | 63% |
| 2012 | 939 | 4855 | 19% | 611 | 13% | 65% |
| 2013 | 825 | 4859 | 17% | 561 | 12% | 68% |
| 2014 | 777 | 4859 | 16% | 506 | 10% | 65% |
| 2015 | 374 | 2105 | 18% | 249 | 12% | 67% |
Shellackings are up about two percentage points from last year, same with overall 5+ ER outings and number of those outings that become Shellackings. The first two of those three categories are at three-year highs, though none are the highest we’ve seen in the last five years so I’m not sure it’s at any sort of epidemic status just yet.
But that’s just the overall look. I feel like these Shellackings are coming from good pitchers more often.
I’ve been trying to come up with a way to really see if it’s just anecdotal since they all seem to be on my DFS team the night the night they get obliterated or if better arms really are getting ripped more often. I use Shellackings as the cutoff. There are other combos that can be night-ending on the DFS landscape, but I’ve been using this measure for duds for a while now so we’ll stick with it.
Let me state out front that my mathematical know-how might be Kevin Correia-level compared to the many Clayton Kershaw– and Chris Sale-level mathematicians roaming the virtual halls of Fangraphs. If I could go back and change something about my childhood, it would be to immerse myself in math at a young age instead of avoiding it out of fear. That, or that time I threw up on bus on the way back from a field trip in elementary school.
To start, I looked at how many Shellackings last year’s top 50 SPs suffered. I took the pool of arms from ESPN’s Player Rater since the 2014 numbers are still available. Of course, I removed guys like Zach Britton (12th) who entered the year SP-eligible and thus continued to show in the rankings despite being closers. I think he was the only for 2014, though. It’s usually the other way around where you have to remove RP-eligible starters (Garrett Richards & Tanner Roark from last year, for example) from any sort of study with relievers.
Just five guys in the top 50 made it through the season Shellacking-free last year: Johnny Cueto (2nd among SPs on Player Rater), Felix Hernandez (3rd), Zack Greinke (11th), Tyson Ross (23rd), and James Shields (28th). On the other end, three guys logged at least four Shellackings with Alfredo Simon (43rd) pacing the league at five. Stephen Strasburg (14th) and Hisashi Iwakuma (24th) were the other two guys with at least four.
All told, the top 50 suffered through 83 Shellackings last year. Looking at this year, the top 50 has a total of 39 Shellackings. There are 10 guys with at least two within the top 50 including Chris Heston (43rd) and Bartolo Colon (45th) pacing the group with three apiece. Of the other eight with two, only one (Hernandez) is in the top 30 overall: Hernandez (9th), Chris Young (31st), Carlos Carrasco (36th), Pineda (38th), Miguel Gonzalez (40th), Simon (41st), Colby Lewis (42nd), and Anibal Sanchez (47th).
This year’s top 50 is on pace for 91 Shellackings, but that’s a moving target since guys will come in and out of the top 50 regularly for the remaining three-plus months of the season. Those eight extra Shellackings would actually mark a drop in percentage of Shellackings committed by top 50 arms, from 16.4% to 15.7%… in other words, it’s static at 16%. That’s due in part to the fact that the league is on pace for 86 more Shellackings than last year.
Obviously, if you have a shit-ton of Shellackings, you simply won’t make it into the top 50 in the first place. This is probably why so many of the Shellacking “leaders” within the top 50 so far this year are at the backend of it. So maybe there is some selection bias in play. With that in mind, let’s take a look at the top 50 arms drafted this year by average draft position (ADP) using the FantasyPros database and see how they have performed in Shellackings.
I removed those guys who are toast for the season or likely will be (I’m skeptical on the Drew Smyly return talk) so I had to pull in six guys just outside of the top 50 to get enough arms. Here are the guys who got removed along with both their overall pick and their pick among SPs.
| SP Pick | Overall Pick | Pitcher |
|---|---|---|
| 13 | 46 | Adam Wainwright (STL – SP) DL60 |
| 24 | 87 | Hisashi Iwakuma (SEA – SP) DL15 |
| 28 | 101 | Alex Cobb (TB – SP) DL60 |
| 37 | 146 | Yu Darvish (TEX – SP) DL60 |
| 46 | 169 | Hyun-Jin Ryu (LAD – SP) DL60 |
| 49 | 182 | Homer Bailey (CIN – SP) DL60 |
| 54 | 196 | Jose Fernandez (MIA – SP) DL60 |
| 56 | 200 | Cliff Lee (PHI – SP) DL60 |
| 57 | 201 | Drew Smyly (TB – SP) DL60 |
With those omissions, we get our group of 50:
| SP Pick | Overall Pick | Pitcher | 2015 Shellackings |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 3 | Clayton Kershaw (LAD – SP) | 0 |
| 2 | 10 | Felix Hernandez (SEA – SP) | 2 |
| 3 | 14 | Max Scherzer (WSH – SP) | 0 |
| 4 | 20 | Chris Sale (CWS – SP) | 1 |
| 5 | 21 | Stephen Strasburg (WSH – SP) DL15 | 2 |
| 6 | 22 | Madison Bumgarner (SF – SP) | 1 |
| 7 | 24 | David Price (DET – SP) | 1 |
| 8 | 31 | Corey Kluber (CLE – SP) | 0 |
| 9 | 34 | Johnny Cueto (CIN – SP) | 0 |
| 10 | 37 | Zack Greinke (LAD – SP) | 0 |
| 11 | 41 | Jordan Zimmermann (WSH – SP) | 2 |
| 12 | 42 | Jon Lester (CHC – SP) | 2 |
| 14 | 49 | Matt Harvey (NYM – SP) | 1 |
| 15 | 53 | Cole Hamels (PHI – SP) | 0 |
| 16 | 64 | Jeff Samardzija (CWS – SP) | 2 |
| 17 | 68 | Julio Teheran (ATL – SP) | 3 |
| 18 | 72 | James Shields (SD – SP) | 0 |
| 19 | 73 | Gerrit Cole (PIT – SP) | 0 |
| 20 | 76 | Sonny Gray (OAK – SP) | 0 |
| 21 | 82 | Jake Arrieta (CHC – SP) | 0 |
| 22 | 83 | Jacob DeGrom (NYM – SP) | 1 |
| 23 | 86 | Masahiro Tanaka (NYY – SP) | 1 |
| 25 | 89 | Tyson Ross (SD – SP) | 0 |
| 26 | 93 | Alex Wood (ATL – SP,RP) | 1 |
| 27 | 96 | Carlos Carrasco (CLE – SP,RP) | 2 |
| 29 | 103 | Gio Gonzalez (WSH – SP) | 4 |
| 30 | 119 | Garrett Richards (LAA – SP) | 1 |
| 31 | 125 | Lance Lynn (STL – SP) DL15 | 1 |
| 32 | 126 | Michael Wacha (STL – SP) | 1 |
| 33 | 131 | Phil Hughes (MIN – SP) | 1 |
| 34 | 138 | Yordano Ventura (KC – SP) DL15 | 1 |
| 35 | 140 | Doug Fister (WSH – SP) | 1 |
| 36 | 145 | Jered Weaver (LAA – SP) DL15 | 2 |
| 38 | 147 | Anibal Sanchez (DET – SP) | 2 |
| 39 | 148 | Andrew Cashner (SD – SP) | 3 |
| 40 | 150 | Ian Kennedy (SD – SP) | 4 |
| 41 | 156 | Justin Verlander (DET – SP) | 0 |
| 42 | 158 | Michael Pineda (NYY – SP) | 2 |
| 43 | 159 | Chris Archer (TB – SP) | 1 |
| 44 | 162 | Mat Latos (MIA – SP) | 2 |
| 45 | 166 | Collin McHugh (HOU – SP) | 2 |
| 47 | 173 | Jose Quintana (CWS – SP) | 2 |
| 48 | 179 | Francisco Liriano (PIT – SP) | 1 |
| 50 | 183 | Mike Fiers (MIL – SP) | 3 |
| 51 | 185 | Matt Shoemaker (LAA – SP,RP) | 3 |
| 52 | 189 | Scott Kazmir (OAK – SP) | 0 |
| 53 | 194 | Dallas Keuchel (HOU – SP) | 0 |
| 55 | 199 | Taijuan Walker (SEA – SP) | 3 |
| 58 | 206 | Jake Odorizzi (TB – SP) DL15 | 0 |
| 63 | 226 | Chris Tillman (BAL – SP) | 4 |
| TOTAL | 66 |
A bit of a different story now, huh? Remember how the current top 50 doesn’t include anyone with even four Shellackings. The top 50 drafted has three such guys (Gio Gonzalez, Ian Kennedy, and Chris Tillman) plus five others with three and 12 others with a pair. With a total of 66 already, this year’s top 50 drafted pitchers are pacing toward 153 Shellackings among them.
This might be why it feels like these Shellackings are coming from better arms more frequently. The top 10 finishers from last year had just 11 total Shellackings. The top 10 drafted this year already have seven despite half of them not even having one yet. Or maybe it’s just the nature of DFS that these events stand out more since they’re having such a profound impact on that contest.
A particularly horrific Shellacking like that 2/3rds of an inning nightmare from Garrett Richards in the Bronx will sting your season-long team without a doubt, but it can’t tank your season unless it happens on the final day of the season or something. You might remember it as a signature event for that pitcher in a season, but it doesn’t ever have the impact that they do in DFS.
I think DFS does impact our remembrance of these events, but we are seeing increased frequency in Shellackings from better pitchers, at least compared to last year. I guess the next question I’d have is why? Why does someone like Pineda suffer such volatility? That’s probably its own article altogether with Pineda. I really don’t think his talent in question at this point. Is it just experience? Maybe with some like Pineda, but Felix has two Shellackings already and he’ll eclipse 2200 innings later this year.
Maybe it’s just a sign that offense is returning? Last year’s 506 were a 23-(non-strike)-year low when the league had just 417 in 1992. Runs were at 4.12 per game that season, an 11-year low. Surprisingly*, the juiced era started the very next season when runs per game jumped to 4.6 and held there or higher until 2010 (4.38). Maybe 2014 wasn’t the signal of a burgeoning pitcher’s era, but rather the high point of it and now we’ll slowly see offense start to creep back up?
Or maybe I’m just really tired of -17 point totals from my top starters on DraftKings.
*not surprising
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Tuesday night was a field day for Shellackings with seven, though only one came from a stud: Danny Salazar. The other six were from pitchers you’d expect or aren’t surprised to see deliver one: Sean O’Sullivan and CC Sabathia in the same game as well as Jesse Chavez, Joe Kelly, C.J. Wilson, and Chase Anderson.
Chavez is the biggest surprise because of how he was pitching, but Texas is raking. Anderson has been pitching well, but it’s Coors. Wilson almost had me tricked that he was awesome again. I don’t think this completely invalidates what he’s done so far, but he’s not back at 2010-2013 levels when he posted a 3.37 ERA in 842 IP with Texas and LA.
Chi-Chi Gonzalez was just two outs shy of one, allowing 6 ER in 5.7 IP. Collin McHugh, Jeremy Guthrie, Mike Montgomery, Odrisamer Despagine, and Madison Bumgarner could all still get one as of this writing… unless I have time to update it before leaving for my mini-vacation. But if you’re reading it’s too late.
I was fortunate to have Pineda in a 50/50 the other day. Good news is, 4 out of 5 contestants picked him so It had minimal impact on the contest. The bats compensated nicely.
I have had terrible luck with pitchers this year. Seems every time I pick a high-priced pitcher they get completely destroyed. Felix last week, taking 31 pitches to get one out and Pineda the other night, who got a little deeper but started going all slow-pitch softball in the 3rd and 4th innings, being the most recent examples.
What are the odds of consecutive shellackings from healthy top starters? I suppose unless there’s an injury, not very high right?
Oh shellackings…gotta love baseball.
Tyson Ross isn’t getting hit because he can’t get the ball over the plate.
I feel like your definition of a shellacking is too limited. If my pitcher goes 6 innings and still gives up 6 runs, that’s still going to do a lot of damage on my ERA. Looking at BREF’s search query, it looks like you can select all games where ER > 0.9 * IP, and that seems like a good enough definition of a shellacking to me. Sure, it’ll include games where a pitcher comes out early (due to rain or injury) after giving up 2ER in 2IP, but I think that’s better than excluding games that give you an ERA of 9.00 or higher.
It’s not perfect, but I’m pretty happy with this measure. Yes 6 or 7 ER in 6 or 7 still sucks, but it’s not always the decimating night-ender if they’re going that many innings.
There have only been 26 6+ IP, 6+ ER outings all year. There is a real chance for a positive score even with one of those, though. Take CJ Wilson’s June 7th outing of 7 IP/6 ER. He also fanned 8 and wound up with a 15 pt night on DK.
Only 6 of the 6+ IP/6+ ER outings delivered a negative score on DK. And they were all positive scores on FD. I know my Shellackings measure isn’t *perfect*, but I think it works pretty to define the real crappy outings.
Only six of the 257 Shellackings have delivered a double-digit score.
Yeah, I guess I’m not as interested in positive vs. negative scores, since I don’t play daily fantasy. I just think that you reach a broader audience by expanding your filters, since longer outings can still do lots of damage on both rate stats like ERA and WHIP and counting stats like W and QS (since they count more towards inning limits).
For example, your method has Corey Kluber with 0 “Shellackings,” but he had a 4-start stretch in late April and early May in which he gave up 5 or 6 earned runs and pitched between 5 and 6.1 innings. Over that 23-inning stretch, yes, he got 21 Ks, but he also had an 8.61 ERA, a 1.96 WHIP, and 0 Ws or QSs. That’s a lot of damage done by an ace pitcher who should be a reliable guy to start every time he pitches.
Yeah I mean, I was just going for something different it seems. There is no catchall. There are lots of ways to have a bad outing. I find my Shellackings to be the biggest damagers, though.
I just like that you legitimately made the word shellackings a baseball statistic. Bravo Paul
As an owner of Salazar and Pineda, this week has been really swell so far.
ERA is what we have to work with, but it’s really misleading for individual pitchers.
Exhibit A: Andrew Cashner-I’m going to argue that he’s actually worse than his ERA. In my baseball cave, I watch parts of almost every game. He’s mighty likely that he or someone else made an error before he gave up 6 consecutive hits after it as he did in several games or his ERAQ would be through the roof.
PS. Many thanks to the RP’s for being unable to get an out or two prior to allowing the inherited runners to score….which opens an entirely different discussion.
We have FIP to somewat normalize the quality of the team surrounding the pitcher, but what we don’t have is the Genius (or lack of) Factor for the managers’ decision making.
I’ll suggest that pitchers of certain teams will have higher or lower ERA’s based on when a manager will pull a pitcher and the quality of that team’s bullpen.
I can give you specific examples of managers that I followed throughout the years who were consistent in their approaches, but I haven’t kept any data to analyze.
Lucky not likely (edit function needed)
Kinda surprised, given Liriano’s crappy luck this year, he doesn’t have more than one
Thankfully just the one HORRENDOUS outing v. MIN. Two other 5 ER outings, but he went 6.3 and 5.7 IP in those.
I think you’ve done this in an extremely biased way that’s causing you to draw an conclusion that may not be there at all. If I understood this correctly, you defined “good pitchers” in 2014 as the top 50 pitchers at the end of 2014. I think that’s a good way to define it, with the caveat that arbitrary cutoffs can create misleading results sometimes, but that’s fine, I can live with that. My problem is that if I read this right, you then switched methodologies to the top 50 average draft positions in 2015. I think you’ll find there were plenty of people in the top 50 drafted last year who were bad end ended the season by not being in the top 50. That means you defined out the people who took a lot of “shellackings” in 2014, by not calling them “good” but in your 2015 set you included those types of pitchers. That’s a guarantee to conclude that more good pitchers are taking more shellackings, the methodology guaranteed you would find that.
I tried to respond to this earlier in the week, but I guess it never went through.
I still kept the Top 50 for this year. But the reason I also showed the top 50 drafted is because they were considered the good pitchers coming into the season and the main crux of my piece is that better pitchers are getting crushed more often thus the number of Shellackings among top 50 drafted was interesting to me.
The Top 50 drafted in 2014 had 101 Shellackings… 53 fewer than this year’s is on pace for right now.
Might want to play around with the Gini coefficient using game score to calculate it. Consistent pitchers are generally around 0.10-0.12. Anything around 0.20 or higher is inconsistent, and coming off a season or long stretch (10 starts) of consistency may be suggestive of injury. 0 is perfectly consistent and 1 is totally random. Pineda is on a stretch now where he is over 0.30, and King Felix this year is 0.20 after being 0.11 at same point last year. Strasburg is also around 0.20 for the year. Scherzer is 0.11. I would not pay for an ace in DFS if his Gini coefficient is above 0.12.
What a great idea! I never thought about using a GINI coefficient like that.
Unfortunately (perhaps sadly?) that is beyond my mathematical know-how.
Sounds like a good idea for an upcoming article!