Finding Giolito: Mahle & Smeltzer

I’m continuing my quest to find the next Lucas Giolito breakout and failed with these two. They both were to be adding slider and some added velocity.

Tyle Mahle: Reds right-handed pitcher

Games

  • 2/29/20
  • 3/5/20

Notes:

  • Some rise on the fastball but it’s really straight (95 and 97 mph from broadcast on two pitches).
  • The curve was inconsistent and he hung a few.
  • Just didn’t throw a put-away pitch in the second game.
  • He had no feel for the splitter at all in the 3/5 game. It was better in the 2/29 game.
  • I wasn’t sure what he was doing. He might not of known either.

Fastball (8%, 40%)

Splitter (14%, 61%)

Curve (11%, 48%)

Conclusion: I watched Mahle for two reasons, higher velocity and a new slider. The added velocity seemed to be there with some stated speeds (95 and 97 mph) higher than his 2019 average of 94 mph. I saw no signs of a sweeping slider. He may have thrown one that broke 12-6 but it’s tough to differentiate it from his split and curve. I have no interest in him at this point in him. While his fastball may be faster, it’s as straight as an arrow. His curve also doesn’t have much swing-and-miss. And his splitter came and went. I’ll take my chances with someone else.

Devin Smeltzer: Twins Left-handed Pitcher

Game watched (only one available)

  • 3/2/20: Pathetic Cardinals/Marlins ump-ass camera angle.

Notes:

  • He landed a bit toward 1B to get some angle on his throws. He might struggle against right-handed hitters because of it.
  • Everything breaks towards right-handed hitters.
  • His fastball has nothing on it. Very hittable. No put-away pitch.

Conclusion: I just about skipped him with the useless camera angle, but I suffered through the two innings. There is nothing to get excited about, he’s just way too hittable. If he added a slider, it wasn’t generating any swings-and-misses. He needs so much to go right to be usable and showed none of it in this start. Speculate elsewhere.





Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.

5 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Werthlessmember
4 years ago

Sometimes a non-update is useful. I appreciate the article.

I think we’re all a bit cranky nowadays. 🙂