February Rankings – Starting Pitcher
We’re going position by position this week and next with our initial roll out of rankings. We will update these in March based on Spring Training activity and injuries. We took yesterday off because of the uncertainty around Alex Reyes. Now that he’s officially out with Tommy John surgery (:sadface:), he has been removed from the rankings.
We’re using Yahoo! eligibility requirements which is 5 starts or 10 appearances. These rankings assume the standard 5×5 categories and a re-draft league. If we forgot someone, please let us know in the comments and we’ll make sure he’s added for the updates. If you have questions for a specific ranker on something he did, let us know in the comments. We can also be reached via Twitter:
Eno did his standalone SP Rankings which you can find here.
There will be differences, sharp differences, within the rankings. The rankers have different philosophies when it comes to ranking, some of which you’re no doubt familiar with through previous iterations. Of course the idea that we’d all think the same would be silly because then what would be the point of including multiple rankers?! Think someone should be higher or lower? Make a case. Let us know why you think that. The chart is sortable. If a ranker didn’t rank someone that the others did, he was given that ranker’s last rank +1.
Key:
- AVG– just the average of the seven ranking sets
- AVG– the average minus the high and low rankings
- SPLIT– the difference between the high and low rankings
| Rk | NAME | Paul S | Brad | Mike | Jeff | Al | Justin | AVG | Adj. AVG | Split |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Clayton Kershaw | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| 2 | Max Scherzer | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
| 3 | Madison Bumgarner | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3.7 | 3.5 | 2 |
| 4 | Noah Syndergaard | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4.2 | 4.3 | 2 |
| 5 | Chris Sale | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 4.8 | 5 | 3 |
| 6 | Corey Kluber | 6 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 5.5 | 5.5 | 3 |
| 7 | Yu Darvish | 7 | 6 | 13 | 9 | 7 | 8 | 8.3 | 7.8 | 7 |
| 8 | Justin Verlander | 8 | 10 | 11 | 7 | 10 | 10 | 9.3 | 9.5 | 4 |
| 9 | Jon Lester | 11 | 13 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 10 | 6 |
| 10 | Stephen Strasburg | 12 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 13 | 18 | 11.3 | 10.5 | 10 |
| 11 | Johnny Cueto | 10 | 11 | 14 | 14 | 11 | 9 | 11.5 | 11.5 | 5 |
| 12 | Jake Arrieta | 13 | 9 | 7 | 15 | 14 | 11 | 11.5 | 11.8 | 8 |
| 13 | David Price | 9 | 16 | 8 | 11 | 12 | 15 | 11.8 | 11.8 | 8 |
| 14 | Chris Archer | 15 | 17 | 15 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 13.2 | 13.5 | 9 |
| 15 | Carlos Carrasco | 14 | 12 | 17 | 13 | 16 | 13 | 14.2 | 14 | 5 |
| 16 | Jacob deGrom | 19 | 19 | 16 | 17 | 15 | 20 | 17.7 | 17.8 | 5 |
| 17 | Masahiro Tanaka | 16 | 18 | 21 | 22 | 18 | 16 | 18.5 | 18.3 | 6 |
| 18 | Carlos Martinez | 20 | 23 | 25 | 19 | 24 | 14 | 20.8 | 21.5 | 11 |
| 19 | Kyle Hendricks | 28 | 15 | 12 | 33 | 17 | 26 | 21.8 | 21.5 | 21 |
| 20 | Danny Duffy | 17 | 38 | 33 | 20 | 19 | 17 | 24 | 22.3 | 21 |
| 21 | Cole Hamels | 22 | 24 | 23 | 26 | 26 | 29 | 25 | 24.8 | 7 |
| 22 | Zack Greinke | 23 | 26 | 31 | 29 | 20 | 22 | 25.2 | 25 | 11 |
| 23 | Jose Quintana | 26 | 20 | 29 | 25 | 29 | 23 | 25.3 | 25.8 | 9 |
| 24 | Rich Hill | 21 | 22 | 18 | 27 | 25 | 47 | 26.7 | 23.8 | 29 |
| 25 | Gerrit Cole | 27 | 21 | 44 | 28 | 21 | 21 | 27 | 24.3 | 23 |
| 26 | Rick Porcello | 25 | 25 | 27 | 36 | 27 | 35 | 29.2 | 28.5 | 11 |
| 27 | Kenta Maeda | 18 | 34 | 20 | 45 | 23 | 38 | 29.7 | 28.8 | 27 |
| 28 | Aaron Sanchez | 24 | 14 | 42 | 51 | 36 | 19 | 31 | 30.3 | 37 |
| 29 | Lance McCullers | 36 | 33 | 26 | 16 | 42 | 33 | 31 | 32 | 26 |
| 30 | Julio Teheran | 32 | 37 | 19 | 46 | 28 | 25 | 31.2 | 30.5 | 27 |
| 31 | Danny Salazar | 30 | 31 | 52 | 23 | 30 | 24 | 31.7 | 28.8 | 29 |
| 32 | James Paxton | 33 | 32 | 24 | 34 | 41 | 34 | 33 | 33.3 | 17 |
| 33 | Marcus Stroman | 29 | 28 | 36 | 54 | 32 | 28 | 34.5 | 31.3 | 26 |
| 34 | Felix Hernandez | 35 | 29 | 28 | 40 | 34 | 41 | 34.5 | 34.5 | 13 |
| 35 | Dallas Keuchel | 49 | 44 | 34 | 18 | 22 | 43 | 35 | 35.8 | 31 |
| 36 | Aaron Nola | 43 | 27 | 39 | 39 | 33 | 32 | 35.5 | 35.8 | 16 |
| 37 | Steven Matz | 42 | 49 | 32 | 30 | 39 | 37 | 38.2 | 37.5 | 19 |
| 38 | Matt Harvey | 41 | 36 | 30 | 58 | 40 | 30 | 39.2 | 36.8 | 28 |
| 39 | Kevin Gausman | 34 | 47 | 41 | 43 | 49 | 27 | 40.2 | 41.3 | 22 |
| 40 | Michael Fulmer | 31 | 30 | 56 | 52 | 46 | 31 | 41 | 40 | 26 |
| 41 | Jon Gray | 38 | 52 | 37 | 37 | 44 | 42 | 41.7 | 40.3 | 15 |
| 42 | Matt Shoemaker | 58 | 39 | 38 | 24 | 48 | 48 | 42.5 | 43.3 | 34 |
| 43 | Robbie Ray | 46 | 40 | 59 | 21 | 50 | 49 | 44.2 | 46.3 | 38 |
| 44 | Jeff Samardzija | 54 | 48 | 22 | 32 | 57 | 62 | 45.8 | 47.8 | 40 |
| 45 | John Lackey | 60 | 41 | 54 | 38 | 45 | 45 | 47.2 | 46.3 | 22 |
| 46 | Tanner Roark | 50 | 45 | 40 | 70 | 31 | 52 | 48 | 46.8 | 39 |
| 47 | Jameson Taillon | 62 | 51 | 53 | 35 | 37 | 54 | 48.7 | 48.8 | 27 |
| 48 | Matt Moore | 47 | 42 | 43 | 49 | 64 | 55 | 50 | 48.5 | 22 |
| 49 | Carlos Rodon | 37 | 54 | 70 | 57 | 43 | 44 | 50.8 | 49.5 | 33 |
| 50 | Sean Manaea | 51 | 46 | 46 | 73 | 35 | 61 | 52 | 51 | 38 |
| 51 | J.A. Happ | 56 | 43 | 63 | 60 | 60 | 40 | 53.7 | 54.8 | 23 |
| 52 | Vince Velasquez | 52 | 70 | 72 | 41 | 62 | 36 | 55.5 | 56.3 | 36 |
| 53 | Jake Odorizzi | 39 | 75 | 47 | 61 | 52 | 66 | 56.7 | 56.5 | 36 |
| 54 | Marco Estrada | 53 | 50 | 51 | 98 | 53 | 39 | 57.3 | 51.8 | 59 |
| 55 | Anthony DeSclafani | 57 | 73 | 64 | 53 | 51 | 50 | 58 | 56.3 | 23 |
| 56 | Julio Urias | 71 | 35 | 50 | 87 | 55 | 56 | 59 | 58 | 52 |
| 57 | Garrett Richards | 61 | 53 | 75 | 56 | 61 | 59 | 60.8 | 59.3 | 22 |
| 58 | Adam Wainwright | 63 | 61 | 58 | 63 | 58 | 72 | 62.5 | 61.3 | 14 |
| 59 | Joe Ross | 48 | 83 | 68 | 67 | 54 | 58 | 63 | 61.8 | 35 |
| 60 | Taijuan Walker | 45 | 55 | 61 | 89 | 65 | 64 | 63.2 | 61.3 | 44 |
| 61 | Drew Smyly | 79 | 74 | 49 | 42 | 56 | 83 | 63.8 | 64.5 | 41 |
| 62 | Jerad Eickhoff | 65 | 58 | 60 | 82 | 75 | 46 | 64.3 | 64.5 | 36 |
| 63 | Michael Pineda | 40 | 84 | 35 | 31 | 72 | 124 | 64.3 | 57.8 | 93 |
| 64 | Sonny Gray | 44 | 59 | 77 | 72 | 38 | 98 | 64.7 | 63 | 60 |
| 65 | Drew Pomeranz | 74 | 60 | 81 | 68 | 59 | 67 | 68.2 | 67.3 | 22 |
| 66 | Hisashi Iwakuma | 68 | 68 | 67 | 65 | 70 | 81 | 69.8 | 68.3 | 16 |
| 67 | Blake Snell | 73 | 65 | 69 | 62 | 67 | 91 | 71.2 | 68.5 | 29 |
| 68 | Jharel Cotton | 64 | 81 | 80 | 75 | 77 | 51 | 71.3 | 74 | 30 |
| 69 | Ivan Nova | 55 | 69 | 89 | 76 | 71 | 79 | 73.2 | 73.8 | 34 |
| 70 | Tyler Skaggs | 94 | 97 | 73 | 44 | 79 | 60 | 74.5 | 76.5 | 53 |
| 71 | Wei-Yin Chen | 76 | 107 | 76 | 47 | 85 | 57 | 74.7 | 73.5 | 60 |
| 72 | Gio Gonzalez | 85 | 101 | 65 | 48 | 84 | 68 | 75.2 | 75.5 | 53 |
| 73 | Jeremy Hellickson | 88 | 62 | 84 | 80 | 66 | 75 | 75.8 | 76.3 | 26 |
| 74 | Tyler Anderson | 80 | 71 | 88 | 74 | 63 | 84 | 76.7 | 77.3 | 25 |
| 75 | Collin McHugh | 96 | 100 | 45 | 50 | 101 | 88 | 80 | 83.5 | 56 |
| 76 | Alex Cobb | 67 | 63 | 101 | 112 | 47 | 99 | 81.5 | 82.5 | 65 |
| 77 | Jason Hammel | 75 | 79 | 99 | 90 | 80 | 69 | 82 | 81 | 30 |
| 78 | Michael Wacha | 59 | 85 | 92 | 91 | 78 | 90 | 82.5 | 86 | 33 |
| 79 | Ervin Santana | 91 | 99 | 79 | 69 | 86 | 74 | 83 | 82.5 | 30 |
| 80 | Ian Kennedy | 89 | 105 | 71 | 55 | 99 | 92 | 85.2 | 87.8 | 50 |
| 81 | Francisco Liriano | 92 | 56 | 82 | 77 | 107 | 106 | 86.7 | 89.3 | 51 |
| 82 | Jordan Zimmermann | 77 | 78 | 62 | 102 | 95 | 107 | 86.8 | 88 | 45 |
| 83 | Mike Leake | 86 | 66 | 103 | 79 | 104 | 89 | 87.8 | 89.3 | 38 |
| 84 | Junior Guerra | 66 | 67 | 125 | 92 | 98 | 87 | 89.2 | 86 | 59 |
| 85 | Adam Conley | 72 | 122 | 94 | 120 | 68 | 70 | 91 | 89 | 54 |
| 86 | Lance Lynn | 81 | 72 | 114 | 96 | 90 | 96 | 91.5 | 90.8 | 42 |
| 87 | Mike Foltynewicz | 78 | 109 | 104 | 84 | 81 | 95 | 91.8 | 91 | 31 |
| 88 | Daniel Norris | 82 | 106 | 96 | 122 | 69 | 82 | 92.8 | 91.5 | 53 |
| 89 | Dylan Bundy | 83 | 115 | 98 | 107 | 105 | 53 | 93.5 | 98.3 | 62 |
| 90 | Trevor Bauer | 120 | 82 | 85 | 105 | 108 | 63 | 93.8 | 95 | 57 |
| 91 | Chris Tillman | 84 | 112 | 86 | 111 | 96 | 85 | 95.7 | 94.5 | 28 |
| 92 | Jaime Garcia | 114 | 102 | 55 | 86 | 100 | 120 | 96.2 | 100.5 | 65 |
| 93 | Eduardo Rodriguez | 122 | 90 | 95 | 99 | 110 | 65 | 96.8 | 98.5 | 57 |
| 94 | Brandon Finnegan | 70 | 111 | 117 | 101 | 117 | 71 | 97.8 | 100 | 47 |
| 95 | Matt Andriese | 117 | 126 | 66 | 59 | 102 | 117 | 97.8 | 100.5 | 67 |
| 96 | Zach Davies | 69 | 114 | 111 | 106 | 103 | 100 | 100.5 | 105 | 45 |
| 97 | Tyler Glasnow | 128 | 123 | 122 | 83 | 76 | 77 | 101.5 | 101.3 | 52 |
| 98 | Bartolo Colon | 111 | 88 | 109 | 94 | 112 | 104 | 103 | 104.5 | 24 |
| 99 | Luis Severino | 119 | 93 | 87 | 108 | 119 | 93 | 103.2 | 103.3 | 32 |
| 100 | Alex Wood | 105 | 87 | 148 | 78 | 92 | 118 | 104.7 | 100.5 | 70 |
| 101 | Tyson Ross | 139 | 117 | 108 | 121 | 74 | 76 | 105.8 | 105.5 | 65 |
| 102 | Joe Musgrove | 87 | 89 | 148 | 151 | 82 | 80 | 106.2 | 101.5 | 71 |
| 103 | Dan Straily | 97 | 98 | 91 | 116 | 116 | 128 | 107.7 | 106.8 | 37 |
| 104 | Mike Montgomery | 101 | 80 | 83 | 127 | 106 | 151 | 108 | 104.3 | 71 |
| 105 | Mike Fiers | 98 | 130 | 93 | 81 | 123 | 125 | 108.3 | 109.8 | 49 |
| 106 | Shelby Miller | 90 | 108 | 119 | 115 | 126 | 97 | 109.2 | 109.8 | 36 |
| 107 | Scott Kazmir | 137 | 124 | 57 | 93 | 131 | 119 | 110.2 | 116.8 | 80 |
| 108 | Luke Weaver | 93 | 77 | 148 | 151 | 88 | 105 | 110.3 | 108.5 | 74 |
| 109 | Steven Wright | 95 | 64 | 148 | 151 | 87 | 123 | 111.3 | 113.3 | 87 |
| 110 | Jose Berrios | 99 | 134 | 126 | 132 | 109 | 73 | 112.2 | 116.5 | 61 |
| 111 | Archie Bradley | 123 | 76 | 105 | 88 | 154 | 135 | 113.5 | 112.8 | 78 |
| 112 | R.A. Dickey | 110 | 140 | 90 | 95 | 135 | 113 | 113.8 | 113.3 | 50 |
| 113 | Jose De Leon | 140 | 121 | 139 | 64 | 89 | 130 | 113.8 | 119.8 | 76 |
| 114 | Ricky Nolasco | 121 | 146 | 97 | 71 | 128 | 126 | 114.8 | 118 | 75 |
| 115 | Patrick Corbin | 116 | 96 | 148 | 151 | 73 | 134 | 119.7 | 123.5 | 78 |
| 116 | Edinson Volquez | 141 | 129 | 106 | 97 | 125 | 131 | 121.5 | 122.8 | 44 |
| 117 | Brandon McCarthy | 129 | 57 | 148 | 126 | 144 | 129 | 122.2 | 132 | 91 |
| 118 | Nate Karns | 127 | 143 | 78 | 103 | 142 | 140 | 122.2 | 128 | 65 |
| 119 | Zack Wheeler | 133 | 91 | 148 | 129 | 91 | 151 | 123.8 | 125.3 | 60 |
| 120 | Clay Buchholz | 143 | 104 | 115 | 141 | 134 | 109 | 124.3 | 124.8 | 39 |
| 121 | Jimmy Nelson | 113 | 86 | 141 | 151 | 154 | 103 | 124.7 | 127 | 68 |
| 122 | CC Sabathia | 112 | 146 | 100 | 117 | 122 | 151 | 124.7 | 124.3 | 51 |
| 123 | Robert Gsellman | 103 | 92 | 148 | 151 | 154 | 101 | 124.8 | 125.8 | 62 |
| 124 | Andrew Triggs | 115 | 144 | 148 | 134 | 97 | 116 | 125.7 | 127.3 | 51 |
| 125 | Lucas Giolito | 125 | 146 | 145 | 151 | 115 | 78 | 126.7 | 132.8 | 73 |
So, Justin … when Michael Pineda punched your dog, did he use his right hand or his left?
Woof, and I thought I was negative…
Pineda barely squeezed into the back end of the top-100 SPs in most formats last year. Not saying 124 isn’t a lowball ranking, but to be fair he hasn’t really shown an ability to not be objectively bad for the last couple years. Glad to know you’ll be overpaying for his services so I don’t have to.
My remark was based on Justin’s ranking of Pineda relative to the rest of the group. But presumptions ARE fun.
Your remark was also hilarious. I just had to jump off the bandwagon this year. Dude is just too frustrating to own.
at what point do we take Pineda’s results seriously and ignore the “stuff” and peripherals? He has good metrics but yet He constantly puts up numbers that warrant him to barely be rosterable. He is overrated
Pineda is weird that’s why he has the biggest split out of everyone. Either he changes something and is great or he remains the same and sucks like you said.
Pineda’s floor is a lot higher in formats like FG Pts, where it’s close to FIP, than in standard 5×5 ERA formats.
If he used his right, the dog might have hit a home run.
Trying to think – who are the pitchers on the DL that you can draft and stash? Last year it was Darvish and the year before it was Jose Fernandez and Kenley Jansen.
Not sure there really are any [yet] this year worth taking up a DL spot.
Actually I did think of one – Tyson Ross. Not expected to be ready until May at the earliest. Of course he’s moving from the NL to AL and a pitcher’s park to a hitter’s park so he’s got some things working against him besides injuries.
Tropeano and Heaney but that’s only for AL-only’s.
I was looking back at the Contact Management posts for starting pitchers and after going through it I may have bumped Thor up to #2. Similar K rates as Scherzer, better walk rates, and even similar overall contact management! Scherzer has continued to be an extreme fly ball guy so those homer woes from the beginning of the season aren’t a a total outlier. Whereas Thor’s high grounder rate provides a safer floor in the contact managment area. I understand the stability of Scherzer is still very appealing, and he probably deserves the #2 spot but I think Syndergaard is closer than it appears, and isn’t extremely more risky than Scherzer. ( I know nobody is sleeping on Thor, just thought I’d point this out).
Remember, because of his age, stuff, and bone spurs, Syndergaard is a big injury risk. Easily 10% more likely to have a major injury than Scherzer, Sale, or other similar vets. However, he’s so good that those are the only two I’d take ahead of him (besides Kershaw).
Hey Paul – Is there any particular reason that you didn’t consider Darvish in the 3rd round of your LABR draft as your SP1? I heard you mention Price, Verlander, and Cueto as your top three options at that time, and Darvish slipped past your 4th pick. Does Jason not like him? Still worried about health issues?
It was more that Jason wasn’t as high on him, so we focused on the other 3
Jeff, wondering what your reasoning is for having Robbie Ray that high ahead of other similarish lefties like Rodon and Paxton.
Maybe more of a keeper question for Yu, but if the Rangers aren’t in contention this year, do you see any chance of them flipping Darvish around ASB, since the rumblings are that extension is looking unlikely? If so, I can’t imagine him going to a home park that’s worse than TEX.
Mike, Samardzija #22 is bold.
Just where my projections placed him. Pitching in a great home park in front of an always solid defense is huge.
Doesn’t 24 seem high for a guy (Rich HIll) who last threw more than 110 IP at any level when George W Bush was President? He’s 37 and is suddenly being pushed into the “ace” category based on a mere 139 IP over the last 2 years when he was either mediocre or injured for the entire 10 years before that.
Not seeing him being worth the gamble quite that high. . . .
It’s a different kind of play. In his 110 IP, he was 22nd on ESPN’s player rater for SPs. So you plan for the muted IP total, but really good numbers
Seconded.
Thanks for all the work that goes into these rankings!
They are very helpful.
Paul you have me sold on Hill and since I am in a ten team league I think he is worth it due to the fact so many good guys are on the waiver wire. I am thinking I can get 1. Kluber 2. JV/Cueto/Lester 3. Hill 4. Porcello to start my staff. Do you see any issues with those four as a whole. Working on BUILDING a staff and not just taking the top guy on my list.
I definitely think that’s a strong core. I’m not huge on Porcello in a vacuum, but pairing him w/Hill is really smart.
I’m surprised Daniel Norris is getting no love. He was a K machine towards the end of the year with solid peripherals and an uptick in FB velocity. I think he is at least top-70
I meant to move him up. Didn’t get around to it. I like him as a late game flier.
agreed, though like last year there are big chunks of pitchers this yr meaning I could see Norris as high as 60. I actually don’t see a ton of difference between 60 and about 85
No disrespect to the others, but I will always miss Eno’s rankings.
I’ll post soon!
Surprised how low Eduardo Rodriguez is ranked. He was a stud prospect. I’m guessing it’s because of the knee?
Not sure that guy can put pants on without tweaking a knee. I’ve been following him for a few years, so frustrating he isn’t living up to awesome potential!
Definitely for me
Paul Who were the 9 pitchers you had in the Top 125 that missed the groups top 125? Picks 100,102,104,106,107,108,109,118,124
Figured I’d just give you 100 to 125 all told:
100 Wily Peralta
Mike Montgomery
Luis Perdomo
Robert Gsellman
Seth Lugo
Alex Wood
Christopher Devenski
Drew Hutchison
Martin Perez
Matt Boyd
110 R.A. Dickey
Bartolo Colon
CC Sabathia
Jimmy Nelson
Jaime Garcia
Andrew Triggs
Patrick Corbin
Matt Andriese
Tyler Chatwood
Luis Severino
120 Trevor Bauer
Ricky Nolasco
Eduardo Rodriguez
Archie Bradley
Charlie Morton
Lucas Giolito