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Ottoneu Drip: Finding Under-rostered Pitchers: April 1, 2025

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Welcome back to the Ottoneu Drip, a twice-monthly column dedicated to identifying under-rostered pitchers in Ottoneu leagues who might be worth a second look. I went back through the archives from last year and correctly identified Spencer Arrighetti, Mitchell Parker, Tobias Myers, Kris Bubic, Hunter Gaddis, Porter Hodge, and Luke Weaver as clear wins among a host of other short-term value plays. Let’s not get hung up on some of the misses…

Anyway, since we’ve only got a weekend’s worth of games in the bag, I decided I’d look at some of the standout starts from Opening Weekend to see if any of these under-rostered pitchers are worth rostering to start the season. I’ll give some pretty brief analysis since we’re only talking about a single start, but some of these starters might show up again in this column later on this season — if they’re not rostered at a higher rate before then.

Under-rostered Starters
Pitcher Team IP K/BB Pts Roster%
Cade Povich BAL 4.1 4.0 29.1 45.1%
Jordan Hicks SFG 6 3.0 47.8 44.8%
Mitchell Parker WSN 6.1 2.5 32.7 23.6%
Zack Littell TBR 6 7.0 48.0 22.7%
JP Sears ATH 6.2 7.0 38.0 13.5%
Martín Pérez CHW 6 3.0 50.4 3.7%
Kyle Freeland COL 6 7.0 53.2 1.5%
Germán Márquez COL 6 4.0 42.0 0.9%

Cade Povich – vBOS, 4.1 IP, 29.1 points
Povich looked pretty good against the potent Red Sox offense, though he couldn’t complete the fifth frame after throwing 94 pitches to get 13 outs. The good news is that eight of those outs were strikeouts and he earned five whiffs on 10 swings against his curveball. Povich had a solid spring training and brought his swing-and-miss stuff with him into his first start of the season. He’ll need to work on his pitch efficiency if he wants to keep his spot in the rotation once some of the rest of Baltimore’s starters get healthy.

Jordan Hicks – @HOU, 6 IP, 47.8 points
Hicks was brilliant against the Astros on Monday, allowing just a single hit and two walks to go along with six strikeouts. The most encouraging thing was the 98 mph average on his sinker on the night. That’s three and a half ticks higher than where that pitch was sitting last year and that kind of velocity jump is a really good sign for Hicks’s health. His sweeper was also sitting more than two mph higher and it returned a 50% whiff rate on the night. The big concern with Hicks’s transition to the rotation last year was his ability to maintain his high velocity he was known for as a reliever. If he’s sitting 98 mph across six innings without a drop off towards the end of his outing, that’s very intriguing.

Mitchell Parker – vPHI, 6.1 IP, 32.7 points
Parker worked around a very active Phillies lineup on Sunday and managed to hold them scoreless over 6.1 innings. He had spurts of usefulness last year and this start just reminds us that his solid command and deep repertoire can be effective if it’s all working together for him. He could be worth a flyer if you’re willing to put up with some of the rough starts while avoiding some of the tougher matchups.

Zack Littell – vCOL, 6 IP, 48.0 points
Chad already covered Littell in his Hot Right Now post yesterday but I’ll just add that Littell, like Parker, was valuable in spurts last year with the same kind of kitchen sink approach. It’s not an exciting profile, but their kind of unexciting bulk innings can be useful in Ottoneu where reaching the innings threshold is probably the easiest way to maximize your total points in the format.

JP Sears – @SEA, 6.2 IP, 38.0 points
Sears has always had a decent strikeout-to-walk ratio which has made him an intriguing undervalued player in Ottoneu. Of course, he’s also prone to allow a ridiculous amount of home runs which has always crashed his value in the format. He did allow a single homer in his start in Seattle but he also kept 50% of his batted balls on the ground which is a new wrinkle. If he suddenly figured out how to increase his groundball rate even slightly from his career norms, he might also be able to cut down on the number of batted balls flying over the fence. Something worth monitoring.

Martín Pérez – vMIN, 6 IP, 50.4 points
Pérez no-hit the Twins for six innings in his debut with the White Sox but the most surprising stat from that outing were the nine strikeouts he racked up. He’s never really had swing-and-miss stuff, but he got seven whiffs on 11 swings with his changeup on Monday. He’s not worth rostering yet — and probably won’t be — but keep an eye on his strikeout rate and his home run rate. He’s not that far removed from a 4.93 P/IP season in 2022.

Kyle Freeland – @TBR, 6 IP, 53.2 points
Germán Márquez – @PHI, 6 IP, 42.0 points
It’s always hard to roster Rockies pitchers, especially in Ottoneu where home runs really trash a pitcher’s value. Freeland cruised through six innings against the Rays on Opening Day, striking out seven on just 67 pitches. He was super aggressive in the zone and Tampa obliged by swinging at nearly everything and had only two hits and a bunch of whiffs to show for it. Márquez’s start against the Phillies was a little more interesting. He’s essentially the only Colorado pitcher who has been worth rostering over the last few seasons, though he missed a ton of time the last two years thanks to Tommy John surgery. He was fantastic in Philadelphia on Monday; his velocity was up and he earned 10 whiffs against the potent Phillies lineup. I wouldn’t rush to go out and add Márquez, but he could be an interesting add if he can keep this up and there’s always the possibility Colorado trades him midseason.


Early Ottoneu Draft Returns: Over- and Undervalued Players

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The calendar has flipped to March and that means regular season baseball is just around the corner. There have been just over 100 completed auction drafts in the Ottoneu universe thus far with the vast majority of leagues drafting over the next few weeks ahead of the early March 18 start date to the regular season. These early drafts present us with a bunch of market data that can help us identify players being overvalued or undervalued based on their rankings and projections. I should note that this data is inclusive of both first-year leagues and existing leagues so price inflation will have some effect on the draft values we see in the data.

Below, you’ll find two tables listing players who have been drafted more than 25 times whose real world auction values are either well below or well above the value Chad or I ranked them at earlier this offseason. First, let’s tackle draft steals.

Undervalued Ottoneu Draftees
Player Avg Draft Salary Times Drafted Jake’s Tier Chad’s Tier
Spencer Horwitz $3.48 27 $10-$14 $6-$9
Corey Seager $39.15 46 $45-$54 $36-$44
Nathaniel Lowe $5.66 71 $10-$14 $6-$9
Jorge Soler $11.21 34 $15-$20 $10-$14
Ryan Jeffers $2.43 35 $6-$9 $3-$5
David Festa $2.53 34 $6-$9 $0-$1
Ryan Mountcastle $2.95 44 $6-$9 $6-$9
Ottoneu draft data through March 2.

Just as players were beginning to report to spring training, the Pirates announced that one of their new acquisitions, Spencer Horwitz, had undergone wrist surgery to repair an offseason injury. He’ll likely miss the first few weeks of the season but should be back to full health by the end of April. It’s possible that injury is depressing the market for Horwitz but a $3 average draft cost indicates the market was pretty low on his services to begin with — missing roughly a month of the season shouldn’t have cratered his value this low. Should he return from this wrist injury healthy, the projections see him producing a .344 wOBA as the Pirates everyday first baseman — and his 2B eligibility in Ottoneu boosts his value even further. If I was building my rankings today, I’d probably have him down a tier alongside Chad, but you’re still getting him as a steal if you’re drafting him for $3 today.

I was surprised to see Corey Seager on this list of undervalued players, granted I had him ranked a tier higher than Chad and his market data shows that he’s being valued on par with where Chad ranked him. Seager is either the second or third ranked shortstop, though his lengthy injury history does present some risk. I would be completely happy to roster Seager under $50 and would be ecstatic if I could get him under $40.

First base as a position is in a really weird spot right now. After the first six or seven options, there’s a pretty significant drop off in production and the position sort of plateaus with a bunch of flawed players that seem pretty interchangeable. Both Nathaniel Lowe and Ryan Mountcastle sit in this morass of mediocre first basement which makes it really easy to deflate their draft value — if you miss out on one, there’s another similar option ready to roster.

Across his 11-year career, Jorge Soler finally finds himself in a favorable home ballpark for his brand of right-handed power. Angels Stadium has the best home run park factor among the five cities he’s called home, though I suppose Kauffman Stadium boosts overall offensive output slightly more than the ballpark in Anaheim. Blasting a ton of home runs is a surefire way to rack up a ton of points in Ottoneu leagues and Soler should be among the best in the AL at that one skill. I suppose some of the hesitation stems from his inconsistent track record, but I like his new environment and think he’s flying under the radar a bit.

David Festa has been one of my targets to add towards the end of the draft to round out my starting rotation. An ugly 4.90 ERA hid the fact that he posted a very good 3.76 FIP across his first 13 starts in the big leagues last year and all the projection systems think he should come close to replicating those peripherals again this year. He’s added a sinker to his pitch mix this spring and has continued to flash the swing-and-miss stuff that earned him the callup last season. The only question is whether or not he’ll have a rotation spot locked up out of spring training, but even if he doesn’t, his talent will have him pitching in the big leagues sooner rather than later.

Overvalued Ottoneu Draftees
Player Avg Draft Salary Times Drafted Jake’s Tier Chad’s Tier
Trea Turner $35.75 59 $21-$27 $21-$27
Roki Sasaki $27.54 107 $15-$20 $21-$27
Aaron Nola $21.05 79 $10-$14 $15-$20
Josh Hader $14.91 53 $6-$9 N/A
Corbin Burnes $32.55 40 $21-$27 $28-$35
Kyle Finnegan $5.46 57 $0 N/A
Spencer Arrighetti $7.43 28 $1-$2 $6-$9
Ottoneu draft data through March 2.

Here’s what I wrote about Trea Turner in my middle infield ranks article:

“Turner is a tricky one to peg. He had the hiccup in 2023 in his first season in Philadelphia and then rebounded a bit in ‘24 thanks to a 20 point increase in his BABIP. Worryingly, his power output fell quite a bit and his contact quality wasn’t as sterling as it’s been in the past. The track record speaks for itself, but he just hasn’t been the same player as before since joining the Phillies.”

I’m still pretty hesitant to roster him for any kind of premium, but it’s clear that other Ottoneu players just don’t hold that same view. His average draft value is just four dollars cheaper than Seager but I’d much rather have the latter if I’m paying anywhere near $40 for a shortstop.

Reader, I will admit that I paid $31 for Roki Sasaki in the FanGraphs Staff League draft in early February, knowing full well that it was probably an overpay. Chalk this one up to the shiny new toy effect and accept the fact that you’ll have to really open up the wallet to roster Sasaki during his first season in the big leagues.

I’ve already written up why I’m down on Aaron Nola, but I’ll just emphasize that his reputation as a front-line ace and the actual pts/IP production he provides in Ottoneu do not align very well. For Burnes, I’m concerned that his struggles for half the season last year weren’t just a blip but a portent for his eventual decline. I’m sure I’ll regret fading him, but his projections in Arizona aren’t that rosy and he’s had two straight seasons where his pts/IP sat right around five. In Ottoneu, you’d really like to see your staff ace sit about half a point higher per IP if you’re investing over $30 to roster them.

I will admit that I probably ranked Spencer Arrighetti lower than I should have. I knew that his second half surge was phenomenal, but I didn’t do enough research into why it was so good. He’s got a pair of excellent breaking balls in his curveball and sweeper to pair with a good fastball. Once he got his legs under him and made the necessary adjustments to the big leagues, he cruised through his final 14 starts. Placing him in that $6-$9 tier was a good call from Chad and I’d probably have him there too if I was redoing my rankings today.


Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Starting Pitcher

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Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | 3B | OF | SP
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | 3B | OF | SP

You can find all of the information about the format and methodology in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Ranking starting pitching is an absolutely massive beast to tackle (seriously, I have no idea how Nick Pollack does it). And it feels like our understanding of what makes a good pitcher is constantly evolving as we continue to break new ground with all the publicly available data. That also means there are more breakouts to chase than ever before as so many pitchers are one or two tweaks away from really unlocking their pitch arsenal. That makes ranking pitchers particularly tricky because projection systems often have a very hard time picking up on those arsenal or stuff changes without a ton of data to back them up.

If you want to pay up for established, high-end options, there are plenty to choose from, just remember that pitchers break down more often than any other position. That means investing a large portion of your budget into your pitching staff will always carry some amount of risk. Luckily, if you choose to pass on the best pitchers on the market, there’s a large middle tier that you can build a perfectly productive pitching staff with. There’s probably 40-50 guys in this group that have good projections but won’t break the bank to roster. Once you’re past those top 60-70 pitchers, you’re getting into the lower tiers where all sorts of warts and question marks abound. Here, you’re simply searching for potential breakouts, bounce backs, or bulk innings.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss a few outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 1 & 2
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
1 Tarik Skubal $36-$44 1087.80 6.05 $36-$44
2 Paul Skenes $36-$44 996.60 6.01 $36-$44
3 Chris Sale $28-$35 974.10 5.83 $21-$27
4 Garrett Crochet $28-$35 894.90 5.76 $28-$35
5 Tyler Glasnow $28-$35 763.90 5.68 $28-$35
6 Blake Snell $28-$35 891.70 5.63 $28-$35
7 Zack Wheeler $28-$35 1051.20 5.44 $36-$44
8 Cole Ragans $28-$35 883.40 5.23 $28-$35

The biggest difference in my rankings is where I put Wheeler. He’s undoubtedly been the most valuable pitcher in Ottoneu over the last four years purely on the massive amount of points he’s generated, even if his per inning rate hasn’t been the highest. That longevity is incredibly valuable, though he’s getting up there in age presenting some risk to his profile. In addition, the projections for him in 2025 just aren’t that rosy, which was enough for me to drop him a tier.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 3
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
9 Spencer Strider $21-$27 825.30 5.94 $21-$27
10 Jacob deGrom $21-$27 745.70 5.89 $21-$27
11 Shohei Ohtani $21-$27 700.50 5.25 N/A
12 Dylan Cease $21-$27 970.20 5.23 $21-$27
13 Sonny Gray $21-$27 898.60 5.23 $15-$20
14 Yoshinobu Yamamoto $21-$27 726.50 5.22 $28-$35
15 Framber Valdez $21-$27 957.90 5.16 $28-$35
16 Logan Gilbert $21-$27 1022.20 5.14 $28-$35
17 Logan Webb $21-$27 1033.00 5.06 $21-$27
18 Max Fried $21-$27 835.80 5.06 $21-$27
19 Shane McClanahan $21-$27 728.00 5.06 $21-$27
20 Corbin Burnes $21-$27 962.20 5.04 $28-$35
21 Michael King $21-$27 833.70 5.04 $21-$27
22 Justin Steele $21-$27 787.20 5.03 $15-$20
23 George Kirby $21-$27 909.00 5.00 $28-$35
24 Gerrit Cole $21-$27 855.60 4.98 $21-$27

I’ve got lower evaluations on Yamamoto, Valdez, Gibert, Burnes, and Kirby. Yamamoto still has workload concerns after he wasn’t able make through his first season in the States unscathed. Valdez doesn’t have a high enough ceiling for me to put him in a higher tier. I personally love Gilbert and Kirby, but the former has had issues maintaining his strikeout rate and the latter gives up a few too many home runs, which hampers him in this format. Burnes righted the ship after scuffling for a lot of the season last year, but I’m concerned that it wasn’t just a blimp but a portent for his eventual decline.

I’m higher on Gray and Steele because I believe in the former’s strikeout rate improvements and the latter has provided consistent home run suppression for three seasons now.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 4
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
25 Hunter Greene $15-$20 784.50 5.01 $10-$14
26 Zac Gallen $15-$20 850.30 4.92 $21-$27
27 Kodai Senga $15-$20 779.60 4.88 $15-$20
28 Joe Ryan $15-$20 723.00 4.85 $15-$20
29 Pablo López $15-$20 911.40 4.84 $21-$27
30 Tanner Bibee $15-$20 801.90 4.81 $15-$20
31 Spencer Schwellenbach $15-$20 737.70 4.81 $15-$20
32 Bryan Woo $15-$20 613.50 4.81 $10-$14
33 Freddy Peralta $15-$20 808.30 4.78 $15-$20
34 Roki Sasaki $15-$20 623.10 4.78 $21-$27
35 Luis Castillo $15-$20 858.00 4.77 $15-$20
36 Bryce Miller $15-$20 797.00 4.75 $10-$14
37 Tanner Houck $15-$20 777.80 4.72 $6-$9
38 Grayson Rodriguez $15-$20 647.90 4.71 $15-$20
39 Cristopher Sánchez $15-$20 762.60 4.68 $10-$14
40 Shota Imanaga $15-$20 803.30 4.66 $21-$27
41 Hunter Brown $15-$20 766.90 4.66 $15-$20
42 Bailey Ober $15-$20 767.70 4.65 $15-$20

Chad thought he’d be the low man on Sasaki but here I am putting him a tier lower. I get the hype, but there are enough concerns about his fastball shape, his injury history, and the transition from Japan to the US that I’m pumping the brakes just a little bit. I’m also lower on Gallen, Lopez, and Imanaga and that’s mostly due to some lower projections capping their ceilings a bit.

I like Greene, Woo, Miller, Houck, and Sanchez a good deal more than Chad and in all of their cases, I’m a believer in the breakouts they all enjoyed in 2024 and think they’ve got even more room to grow.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 5 & 6
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
43 Drew Rasmussen $10-$14 572.50 5.38 $6-$9
44 Reynaldo López $10-$14 733.30 4.97 $10-$14
45 Kevin Gausman $10-$14 867.20 4.71 $6-$9
46 Reese Olson $10-$14 614.60 4.70 $6-$9
47 Sandy Alcantara $10-$14 846.40 4.66 $10-$14
48 Jared Jones $10-$14 669.80 4.60 $10-$14
49 Ryan Pepiot $10-$14 638.70 4.60 $10-$14
50 Seth Lugo $10-$14 842.80 4.59 $10-$14
51 Aaron Nola $10-$14 879.90 4.58 $15-$20
52 Luis Gil $10-$14 691.30 4.55 $10-$14
53 Zach Eflin $10-$14 754.70 4.52 $10-$14
54 Yusei Kikuchi $10-$14 755.10 4.52 $10-$14
55 Jesús Luzardo $10-$14 637.90 4.51 $3-$5
56 Brandon Woodruff $6-$9 671.50 5.03 $3-$5
57 Clay Holmes $6-$9 593.50 4.91 $3-$5
58 Jack Flaherty $6-$9 721.20 4.60 $6-$9
59 Eury Pérez $6-$9 394.30 4.60 $3-$5
60 Nathan Eovaldi $6-$9 745.40 4.58 $3-$5
61 David Festa $6-$9 459.50 4.57 $0-$1
62 Ranger Suárez $6-$9 695.30 4.56 $3-$5
63 Nick Lodolo $6-$9 515.00 4.56 $3-$5
64 Clarke Schmidt $6-$9 568.50 4.53 $6-$9
65 Gavin Williams $6-$9 518.60 4.51 $10-$14
66 Nestor Cortes $6-$9 678.80 4.49 $1-$2
67 Sean Manaea $6-$9 747.40 4.48 $6-$9
68 Carlos Rodón $6-$9 727.30 4.44 $10-$14
69 Jeffrey Springs $6-$9 607.80 4.44 $6-$9
70 Yu Darvish $6-$9 634.00 4.43 $3-$5
71 Shane Baz $6-$9 550.00 4.28 $6-$9
72 Walker Buehler $6-$9 458.90 3.58 $3-$5

We’re getting to the end of the middle tier with these two tiers and the end of the truly useful pitchers you can count on for consistent production.

I’m lower on Nola (read why), Williams, and Rodon but there are a ton of guys here that I’m higher on and it’s either because I believe in a skill change they showed last year or their projections paint a promising picture for 2025 or that they’ve put an injury behind them and I’m banking on a return to form.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 7 & 8
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
73 Kyle Bradish $3-$5 699.80 5.38 $1-$2
74 Ben Brown $3-$5 310.40 5.16 $0-$1
75 Kumar Rocker $3-$5 588.60 4.82 $6-$9
76 Dustin May $3-$5 526.00 4.80 $1-$2
77 José Soriano $3-$5 575.90 4.66 $0-$1
78 Osvaldo Bido $3-$5 355.90 4.64 $0-$1
79 Landen Roupp $3-$5 374.00 4.62 $0-$1
80 Max Scherzer $3-$5 566.20 4.58 $0-$1
81 Matthew Boyd $3-$5 459.90 4.53 $1-$2
82 Nick Pivetta $3-$5 677.70 4.47 $3-$5
83 Robbie Ray $3-$5 621.30 4.41 $1-$2
84 David Peterson $3-$5 589.00 4.41 $1-$2
85 MacKenzie Gore $3-$5 695.70 4.37 $1-$2
86 Nick Martinez $3-$5 621.70 4.37 $3-$5
87 Brandon Pfaadt $3-$5 666.70 4.36 $6-$9
88 Kris Bubic $3-$5 485.50 4.36 $0
89 DJ Herz $3-$5 554.50 4.34 $0-$1
90 Edward Cabrera $3-$5 517.40 4.33 $1-$2
91 Michael McGreevy $3-$5 441.10 4.33 $0
92 Taj Bradley $3-$5 638.90 4.32 $3-$5
93 Mitch Keller $3-$5 774.50 4.31 $1-$2
94 Michael Wacha $3-$5 669.30 4.31 $3-$5
95 Merrill Kelly 켈리 $3-$5 622.70 4.29 $0-$1
96 Jackson Jobe $3-$5 444.30 3.60 $6-$9
97 Shane Bieber $1-$2 576.90 4.74 $3-$5
98 Joe Musgrove $1-$2 551.30 4.74 $0-$1
99 Robert Gasser $1-$2 351.00 4.71 $0
100 Brant Hurter $1-$2 360.20 4.68 $0
101 Clayton Kershaw $1-$2 500.60 4.61 $0-$1
102 Cody Poteet $1-$2 222.70 4.43 $0
103 Alex Cobb $1-$2 576.70 4.42 $0-$1
104 Quinn Mathews $1-$2 460.70 4.41 $1-$2
105 Aaron Ashby $1-$2 431.30 4.41 $0-$1
106 Sawyer Gipson-Long $1-$2 310.00 4.39 $0
107 John Means $1-$2 208.70 4.36 $0
108 Luis Garcia $1-$2 497.80 4.33 $0
109 Yariel Rodríguez $1-$2 459.80 4.31 $0-$1
110 Joe Boyle $1-$2 279.70 4.30 $0-$1
111 Jordan Hicks $1-$2 479.60 4.29 $0-$1
112 Reid Detmers $1-$2 539.70 4.28 $0-$1
113 Hayden Birdsong $1-$2 447.80 4.28 $1-$2
114 Joey Cantillo $1-$2 362.50 4.28 $0-$1
115 Tylor Megill $1-$2 402.20 4.27 $1-$2
116 Bowden Francis $1-$2 538.60 4.23 $6-$9
117 Cody Bradford $1-$2 353.00 4.23 $1-$2
118 Chris Bassitt $1-$2 746.20 4.22 $1-$2
119 Charlie Morton $1-$2 671.90 4.22 $0-$1
120 Cristian Javier $1-$2 492.30 4.21 $1-$2
121 Eduardo Rodriguez $1-$2 535.60 4.20 $0-$1
122 Tristan Beck $1-$2 294.70 4.20 $0
123 Kyle Harrison $1-$2 536.60 4.19 $1-$2
124 Cade Cavalli $1-$2 409.80 4.19 $0
125 Noah Schultz $1-$2 342.30 4.19 $3-$5
126 Brayan Bello $1-$2 669.30 4.18 $1-$2
127 Justin Verlander $1-$2 573.70 4.18 $1-$2
128 Andrew Painter $1-$2 330.00 4.18 $6-$9
129 Andre Pallante $1-$2 551.30 4.16 $0-$1
130 Spencer Arrighetti $1-$2 584.10 4.15 $6-$9
131 Kutter Crawford $1-$2 643.40 4.14 $1-$2
132 Ronel Blanco $1-$2 634.00 4.13 $3-$5
133 Jon Gray $1-$2 551.50 4.13 $0
134 Kyle Wright $1-$2 452.00 4.11 $0
135 Brady Singer $1-$2 688.60 4.09 $1-$2
136 Tyler Mahle $1-$2 523.10 4.07 $0
137 Tobias Myers $1-$2 554.10 4.06 $3-$5
138 AJ Smith-Shawver $1-$2 331.30 4.06 $0-$1
139 Erick Fedde 페디 $1-$2 684.60 4.04 $1-$2
140 Zack Littell $1-$2 549.60 4.02 $0-$1
141 José Berríos $1-$2 751.30 3.99 $0-$1
142 Luis Severino $1-$2 668.20 3.96 $1-$2
143 Jameson Taillon $1-$2 642.20 3.96 $1-$2
144 Aaron Civale $1-$2 565.50 3.96 $0
145 Mitchell Parker $1-$2 589.80 3.93 $0-$1
146 Ryne Nelson $1-$2 509.10 3.89 $3-$5
147 Simeon Woods Richardson $1-$2 520.80 3.87 $0-$1
148 Lucas Giolito $1-$2 543.50 3.83 $0
149 J.T. Ginn $1-$2 350.10 3.80 $0
150 Rhett Lowder $1-$2 428.00 3.75 $3-$5

For these lower tier guys, it’s nearly impossible to find any agreement between me and Chad and that can mostly be chalked up to differences in risk management and our preferences in how we fill out the back end of our rosters. Every one of these guys has a wart or two (or three or four), and you can nitpick about which wart is more important than another, but if you’re relying on any of these guys for significant innings in 2025, something has either gone very well for the individual pitcher or very poorly for the rest of your fantasy team.

Ottoneu SP Rankings – Tier 9 & 10
Rank Player Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/IP Chad’s Tier
151 Lance McCullers Jr. $0-$1 363.80 4.64 $0
152 Braxton Garrett $0-$1 574.70 4.57 $0-$1
153 Grant Holmes $0-$1 443.00 4.54 $0-$1
154 Michael Grove $0-$1 253.10 4.34 $0
155 Patrick Sandoval $0-$1 466.30 4.32 $0
156 Spencer Turnbull $0-$1 354.10 4.27 $0
157 DL Hall $0-$1 348.20 4.14 $1-$2
158 Ty Madden $0-$1 304.70 4.10 $0
159 Joe Ross $0-$1 280.60 4.09 $0
160 Christian Scott $0-$1 266.20 4.06 $0-$1
161 Andrew Heaney $0-$1 609.50 4.05 $0-$1
162 Will Warren $0-$1 324.80 4.04 $0-$1
163 Jacob Misiorowski $0-$1 288.40 4.01 $1-$2
164 Landon Knack $0-$1 308.00 4.00 $0
165 Hayden Wesneski $0-$1 368.30 3.99 $0-$1
166 Frankie Montas $0-$1 588.20 3.98 $0-$1
167 Dean Kremer $0-$1 566.60 3.98 $0
168 Chris Paddack $0-$1 430.70 3.98 $0-$1
169 Jordan Montgomery $0-$1 549.10 3.94 $0-$1
170 Sean Burke $0-$1 499.80 3.93 $0-$1
171 Gavin Stone $0-$1 497.00 3.93 $0-$1
172 Zebby Matthews $0-$1 363.80 3.92 $0-$1
173 Matt Manning $0-$1 283.20 3.92 $0
174 Casey Mize $0-$1 489.60 3.91 $0-$1
175 Ryan Weathers $0-$1 480.90 3.89 $0-$1
176 Luis L. Ortiz $0-$1 508.70 3.87 $1-$2
177 Cade Povich $0-$1 411.90 3.87 $1-$2
178 Mitch Spence $0-$1 528.20 3.86 $0
179 Marcus Stroman $0-$1 526.10 3.86 $0
180 Bubba Chandler $0-$1 382.20 3.86 $3-$5
181 Chase Burns $0-$1 #N/A #N/A $1-$2
182 Hagen Smith $0-$1 #N/A #N/A $0-$1
183 Brandon Sproat $0-$1 #N/A #N/A $0-$1
184 Bobby Miller $0-$1 367.60 3.82 $3-$5
185 Richard Fitts $0-$1 330.40 3.82 $0
186 Tony Gonsolin $0-$1 428.10 3.81 $0
187 Tomoyuki Sugano $0-$1 524.10 3.72 $0
188 Max Meyer $0-$1 433.40 3.65 $0-$1
189 Hurston Waldrep $0-$1 249.20 3.62 $1-$2
190 Chase Dollander $0-$1 300.60 3.54 $0-$1
191 Jakob Junis $0 368.20 4.27 $0
192 Emmet Sheehan $0 290.30 4.22 $0
193 Drey Jameson $0 257.30 4.21 $0
194 Johan Oviedo $0 556.60 4.02 $0
195 Steven Matz $0 395.10 4.02 $0
196 Yilber Diaz $0 295.60 4.02 $0
197 Ryan Yarbrough $0 329.50 3.97 $0
198 Keaton Winn $0 232.00 3.97 $0
199 Alex Faedo $0 227.20 3.97 $0
200 Alek Manoah $0 398.00 3.96 $0
201 Chase Silseth $0 256.60 3.96 $0
202 Jose Quintana $0 622.50 3.95 $0
203 Bryce Elder $0 462.10 3.93 $0
204 Alec Marsh $0 488.00 3.89 $0
205 Davis Martin $0 430.10 3.88 $0
206 Mike Clevinger $0 427.30 3.87 $0
207 Chris Murphy $0 276.20 3.87 $0
208 Jhony Brito $0 261.70 3.87 $0
209 Cooper Criswell $0 321.20 3.83 $0
210 JT Brubaker $0 308.40 3.82 $0
211 Kyle Gibson $0 640.50 3.81 $0
212 Albert Suarez $0 412.00 3.80 $1-$2
213 Paul Blackburn $0 378.00 3.80 $0
214 Javier Assad $0 532.60 3.78 $0-$1
215 Dane Dunning $0 447.90 3.78 $0
216 Matt Waldron $0 482.00 3.77 $0
217 Jake Irvin $0 625.50 3.75 $0-$1
218 Michael Soroka $0 370.60 3.74 $0
219 Ryan Feltner $0 577.50 3.70 $0
220 Jack Leiter $0 378.60 3.70 $1-$2
221 Kenta Maeda $0 360.20 3.70 $0
222 Louie Varland $0 293.10 3.70 $0-$1
223 Miles Mikolas $0 648.90 3.69 $0
224 Slade Cecconi $0 301.10 3.69 $0
225 Jose Suarez $0 266.60 3.69 $0
226 Michael Lorenzen $0 502.80 3.68 $0
227 Lance Lynn $0 524.40 3.64 $0
228 Jordan Wicks $0 262.80 3.64 $0
229 Trevor Rogers $0 412.20 3.63 $0
230 JP Sears $0 621.50 3.62 $0-$1
231 Andrew Abbott $0 510.80 3.61 $0-$1
232 Mason Black $0 286.40 3.61 $0
233 Tyler Anderson $0 595.90 3.58 $0
234 Adrian Houser $0 285.90 3.58 $0
235 Alex Wood $0 339.60 3.55 $0
236 Colin Rea $0 510.60 3.54 $0
237 Keider Montero $0 354.40 3.53 $0
238 Trevor Williams $0 399.50 3.52 $1-$2
239 Graham Ashcraft $0 344.70 3.51 $0
240 Bailey Falter $0 459.40 3.50 $0
241 Randy Vasquez $0 436.80 3.50 $0
242 Germán Márquez $0 508.40 3.49 $0
243 Quinn Priester $0 254.00 3.48 $0
244 José Urquidy $0 347.80 3.46 $0
245 Griffin Canning $0 474.40 3.44 $0-$1
246 J.P. France $0 311.30 3.43 $0
247 Jonathan Cannon $0 507.60 3.42 $0
248 Martín Pérez $0 479.10 3.41 $0
249 Ben Lively 라이블리 $0 472.00 3.41 $0
250 Xzavion Curry $0 266.60 3.36 $0
251 Ross Stripling $0 333.00 3.35 $0
252 Caden Dana $0 320.50 3.34 $1-$2
253 Joan Adon $0 226.70 3.34 $0
254 Joey Lucchesi $0 248.80 3.33 $0
255 Joey Estes $0 447.40 3.30 $0
256 Josiah Gray $0 419.30 3.30 $0-$1
257 Drew Thorpe $0 305.80 3.26 $0
258 Tommy Henry $0 268.40 3.24 $0
259 Triston McKenzie $0 387.20 3.20 $1-$2
260 Dylan Dodd $0 230.60 3.20 $0
261 Kyle Hendricks $0 408.50 3.19 $0
262 Logan Allen $0 345.30 3.16 $0
263 Cal Quantrill $0 432.80 3.13 $0
264 Emerson Hancock $0 260.00 3.12 $0-$1
265 Patrick Corbin $0 472.60 3.02 $0
266 Marco Gonzales $0 268.80 3.00 $0
267 Antonio Senzatela $0 359.50 2.99 $0
268 Carson Spiers $0 255.30 2.96 $0
269 Taijuan Walker $0 342.30 2.95 $0
270 Dakota Hudson $0 254.50 2.90 $0
271 Chris Flexen 플렉센 $0 373.90 2.87 $0
272 Valente Bellozo $0 279.00 2.87 $0
273 Kyle Freeland $0 401.10 2.86 $0
274 Austin Gomber $0 443.20 2.85 $0
275 Nick Nastrini $0 239.40 2.78 $0

Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Third Base

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Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | 3B | OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | 3B | OF

You can find all of the information about the format and methodology in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

Thanks to the additions of Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Jazz Chisholm Jr., third base is feeling a little deeper this year than it has in the recent past.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu 3B Rankings – Tier 1 & 2
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. 1B/3B $36-$44 1026.00 6.58 1.51 $36-$44
2 José Ramírez 3B $36-$44 1012.80 6.52 1.50 $36-$44
3 Rafael Devers 3B $36-$44 914.40 6.29 1.45 $28-$35
4 Austin Riley 3B $28-$35 842.50 6.00 1.38 $28-$35

I understand Chad’s concerns about Devers’ shoulder, but his track record of production speaks for itself and justifies the premium you’ll pay over Riley. Devers managed to produce a 147 wRC+ through August with his balky shoulder and only really broke down in September. It’s possible the shoulder will continue to be an issue this year, but it’s just as likely that an offseason of rest might have allowed the joint to heal. I’m fine taking that risk based on his history.

Ottoneu 3B Rankings – Tier 3 & 4
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
5 Manny Machado 3B $21-$27 826.70 5.58 1.31 $21-$27
6 Alex Bregman 3B $21-$27 827.80 5.47 1.25 $21-$27
7 Mark Vientos 3B $15-$20 638.80 5.35 1.28 $15-$20
8 Jazz Chisholm Jr. 3B/OF $15-$20 706.70 5.34 1.25 $21-$27
9 Junior Caminero 3B $15-$20 608.50 5.34 1.22 $10-$14

I like Chisholm, but not as much as Chad does, and I think there’s some Yankees-fueled helium that’s inflating his perceived value. Yes, he increased his hard hit rate from 37.1% with the Marlins to 48.5% in New York but his barrel rate dropped by more than three points. Despite hitting fewer barrelled batted balls, nearly a quarter of the fly balls he hit as a Yankee left the park, an unsustainable home run rate that fueled a lot of his production in New York.

Ottoneu 3B Rankings – Tier 5 & 6
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
10 Max Muncy 3B $10-$14 605.50 5.25 1.26 $6-$9
11 Royce Lewis 3B $10-$14 516.90 5.14 1.26 $15-$20
12 Matt Chapman 3B $10-$14 768.90 5.13 1.23 $10-$14
13 Isaac Paredes 1B/3B $10-$14 732.60 5.06 1.22 $10-$14
14 Alec Bohm 1B/3B $6-$9 715.80 4.97 1.19 $6-$9
15 Jake Burger 1B/3B $6-$9 677.90 4.95 1.22 $6-$9

Lewis couldn’t replicate the scorching hot breakout he enjoyed in 2023 last year. Some of those struggles were out of his control — his BABIP fell by 100 points — but he also lost a bit of contact quality on his batted balls and his 21.1% home run rate was probably always a little unstable. I expect better things from him in 2025, but there’s always the looming injury concerns and I’m a bit worried about how his body is going to hold up if the Twins actually decide to move him to second base like they’ve talked about this offseason.

Ottoneu 3B Rankings – Tier 7 & 8
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
16 Eugenio Suárez 3B $3-$5 741.40 4.80 1.17 $3-$5
17 Nolan Arenado 3B $3-$5 715.10 4.79 1.15 $6-$9
18 Josh Jung 3B $3-$5 514.50 4.71 1.14 $3-$5
19 Ryan McMahon 3B $3-$5 693.80 4.59 1.10 $3-$5
20 Jeimer Candelario 1B/3B $3-$5 585.70 4.58 1.13 $1-$2
21 Coby Mayo 1B/3B $3-$5 103.20 4.25 1.07 $3-$5
22 Jonah Bride 1B/3B $1-$2 340.60 4.55 1.12 $0-$1
23 Jose Miranda 1B/3B $1-$2 496.00 4.27 1.14 $1-$2
24 Matt Vierling 3B/OF $1-$2 572.80 4.24 1.07 $1-$2
25 Jace Jung 3B $1-$2 257.40 4.03 1.00 $1-$2

I originally had Suárez and Arenado a tier higher but they both have pretty big question marks surrounding them. For the former, it’s his streaky performance that gives me pause. Yes, Suárez was one of the best hitters in baseball during the second half of the season last year, but his first half was atrocious and it’s hard to tell which version of him you’re going to get. For Arenado, the questions about where he’ll eventually end up after the Cardinals inevitably trade him this offseason give me some pause.

Ottoneu 3B Rankings – Tier 9 & 10
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
26 Deyvison De Los Santos 1B/3B $0-$1 415.20 4.42 1.09 $1-$2
27 Ke’Bryan Hayes 3B $0-$1 479.10 3.99 0.98 $0-$1
28 Andrés Chaparro 1B/3B $0-$1 114.70 3.93 0.98 $0-$1
29 Noelvi Marte 3B $0-$1 222.20 3.24 0.85 $1-$2
30 Cam Smith 3B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
31 Eguy Rosario 3B $0 309.20 4.31 1.08 $0
32 Yoán Moncada 3B $0 388.40 4.04 0.99 $0
33 DJ LeMahieu 1B/3B $0 419.80 4.00 0.98 $0
34 Luis Urías 3B $0 227.50 3.87 1.03 $0
35 Donovan Solano 1B/3B $0 401.00 3.85 1.12 $0
36 Jon Berti 3B $0 400.90 3.77 1.13 $0
37 Anthony Rendon 3B $0 271.00 3.75 0.93 $0-$1
38 Ramón Urías 3B $0 354.80 3.55 1.07 $0
39 Miguel Vargas 3B/OF $0 294.40 3.40 0.90 $0-$1
40 Gio Urshela 1B/3B $0 397.30 3.37 0.94 $0
41 Brady House 3B $0 221.20 3.33 0.83 $0-$1
42 Elehuris Montero 1B/3B $0 226.00 3.10 0.86 $0
43 Zach Dezenzo 1B/3B $0 49.70 2.98 0.87 $0-$1
44 Addison Barger 3B/OF $0 185.80 2.93 0.86 $0-$1
45 Nick Senzel 3B $0 243.70 2.91 0.85 $0
46 Bryan Ramos 3B $0 70.60 2.48 0.73 $0

Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: First Base

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Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | 1B | MI | OF

You can find all of the information about the format and methodology in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

Despite some of the big names populating the top of this position group, offensive production from first basemen has hit a nadir over the last few years — collectively first basemen produced a 104 wRC+ in 2024, the worst mark for the position since 1963. If you miss out on one of the top options at the position, you’re probably stuck with a guy you might need to platoon or with some other flaw. It also means that Util-only players like Ohtani, Ozuna, or Pederson can reasonably take the place of a second 1B on your roster if you don’t mind the inflexibility they bring to your lineup.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu 1B Rankings – Tier 1–3
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 Shohei Ohtani Util $55-$65 1297.30 8.58 1.91 $66-$77
2 Freddie Freeman 1B $36-$44 1045.80 6.86 1.56 $36-$44
3 Bryce Harper 1B $36-$44 932.10 6.68 1.54 $36-$44
4 Matt Olson 1B $28-$35 971.00 6.11 1.43 $28-$35

Not much more to say about these four guys beyond the obvious. If you want premium production from 1B, you’re going to have to pay up.

Ottoneu 1B Rankings – Tier 4 & 5
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
5 Pete Alonso 1B $21-$27 882.40 5.63 1.32 $21-$27
6 Christian Walker 1B $21-$27 804.70 5.53 1.32 $15-$20
7 Triston Casas 1B $21-$27 647.70 5.52 1.35 $15-$20
8 Marcell Ozuna Util $15-$20 951.20 6.25 1.50 $10-$14
9 Vinnie Pasquantino 1B $15-$20 660.30 5.33 1.25 $15-$20
10 Josh Naylor 1B $15-$20 748.90 5.32 1.28 $10-$14

Here’s the cliff. There’s a pretty dramatic step down in production from Olson to Alonso but I think I’m more willing to pay for one of these mid-tier 1Bs than Chad is. That’s why I’ve got Walker, Casas, and Naylor all a tier higher than he does.

Ozuna is a really tough one to rank. His positional limitations will obviously hamper your lineup, but his outstanding production is undeniable. Like Chad, I prefer to have my Util open to flex in whomever I want, but there are maybe 18-20 guys who are projected to post a higher P/G than Ozuna is.

Ottoneu 1B Rankings – Tier 6 & 7
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
11 Yandy Díaz 1B $10-$14 824.60 5.73 1.31 $10-$14
12 Paul Goldschmidt 1B $10-$14 799.80 5.26 1.22 $6-$9
13 Nathaniel Lowe 1B $10-$14 761.00 5.14 1.21 $6-$9
14 Kyle Manzardo 1B $6-$9 398.00 5.01 1.17 $6-$9
15 Joc Pederson Util $6-$9 616.60 5.00 1.41 $6-$9
16 Masataka Yoshida Util $6-$9 611.50 5.00 1.22 $3-$5
17 Ryan Mountcastle 1B $6-$9 576.20 4.67 1.15 $6-$9
18 Michael Busch 1B $6-$9 651.90 4.63 1.17 $1-$2

I’ve got some real concerns about Díaz’s ability to continue to produce at a high level outside of Tropicana Field. He gets so much more production out of his high groundball rate than you’d expect thanks to the turf inside the Rays’ ruined ballpark, but I’m worried that he won’t enjoy the same success now that the team will have to play in an outdoor Single-A ballpark this year.

Given a full-time role with the Cubs last year, Busch had a breakout season where he posted the 10th best wOBA among first basemen with at least 400 PAs. Losing 2B and 3B eligibility definitely hurts his overall value, but he’s serviceable as a 1B-only and there are certainly worse options at the position.

Ottoneu 1B Rankings – Tier 8 & 9
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
19 Giancarlo Stanton Util $3-$5 543.80 4.81 1.18 $3-$5
20 Andrew McCutchen Util $3-$5 556.50 4.80 1.12 $0-$1
21 Rhys Hoskins 1B $3-$5 622.40 4.62 1.14 $3-$5
22 Christian Encarnacion-Strand 1B $3-$5 400.40 4.60 1.19 $6-$9
23 Nolan Schanuel 1B $3-$5 617.40 4.57 1.11 $3-$5
24 Spencer Torkelson 1B $3-$5 510.60 4.47 1.07 $3-$5
25 J.D. Martinez Util $1-$2 588.90 5.00 1.21 $0-$1
26 Justin Turner 1B $1-$2 647.90 4.77 1.17 $0
27 Carlos Santana 1B $1-$2 668.20 4.63 1.13 $0-$1
28 Josh Bell 1B $1-$2 666.20 4.61 1.12 $0-$1
29 Andrew Vaughn 1B $1-$2 661.80 4.48 1.08 $0-$1
30 Juan Yepez 1B $1-$2 239.50 4.48 1.15 $0-$1

I’m not sure what to expect from Encarnacion-Strand. A wrist injury derailed his season last year and he’s only really accumulated half a season’s worth of plate appearances in the big leagues across the last two years. And the Reds seem intent on accumulating as many infielders as they can, which raises some playing time questions for CES and the other corner infielders on their roster. I’m fine paying a bit for his power potential, but I wouldn’t pay a premium with so many questions still surrounding him.

Ottoneu 1B Rankings – Tier 10 & 11
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
31 Tyler Black 1B $0-$1 144.20 4.26 1.02 $0-$1
32 Eloy Jiménez Util $0-$1 389.10 4.01 1.05 $0-$1
33 Endy Rodriguez Util $0-$1 243.60 3.67 0.95 $0-$1
34 Bryce Eldridge 1B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
35 Nick Kurtz Util $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
36 Xavier Isaac 1B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
37 Wilmer Flores 1B $0 448.80 4.32 1.16 $0
38 Joey Meneses 1B $0 482.70 4.20 0.99 $0
39 Anthony Rizzo 1B $0 419.80 4.16 1.00 $0
40 Ty France 1B $0 547.50 4.05 1.01 $0
41 Garrett Cooper 1B $0 360.00 3.96 1.05 $0
42 Daniel Vogelbach Util $0 312.90 3.75 1.15 $0
43 Dominic Smith 1B $0 430.10 3.62 0.97 $0
44 Matt Mervis 1B $0 167.10 3.60 0.91 $0
45 Rowdy Tellez 1B $0 420.80 3.55 1.04 $0
46 Jon Singleton 1B $0 340.30 3.44 1.02 $0
47 Nick Pratto 1B $0 253.50 3.21 0.90 $0
48 Yuli Gurriel 1B $0 291.40 3.19 0.91 $0
49 Luken Baker 1B $0 79.80 2.92 0.91 $0

Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Catcher

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Chad and I tackled the two largest position groups to start off these rankings, so naturally, we’re starting off this week with the smallest and most straight forward: catcher.

Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | MI | OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: C | MI | OF

You can find all of the information about the format and methodology in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

Catcher is the awkward step-child of your fantasy roster — you have to invite them to the family reunion but no one is really excited to see them once they’re there. If you’re able to roster one of the top options, you’re probably pretty happy with their production; if you’re not willing to commit that much budget space to the position, there are plenty of cheap options to find if you wait.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu C Rankings – Tier 1–3
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 William Contreras C $21-$27 870.60 5.95 1.37 $21-$27
2 Willson Contreras C $21-$27 644.40 5.55 1.31 $15-$20
3 Will Smith C $15-$20 650.80 5.19 1.23 $10-$14
4 Adley Rutschman C $15-$20 738.10 5.10 1.17 $15-$20
5 Yainer Diaz C/1B $10-$14 678.10 5.02 1.23 $10-$14
6 Salvador Perez C/1B $10-$14 716.00 4.87 1.18 $6-$9

With catcher being such a unique position where your catcher may only play in two-thirds of his team’s games in any given week, regular playing time is at a premium. So when a player is eligible at catcher in fantasy, but is regularly playing other positions like first base or designated hitter, and therefore getting more playing time than if he was stuck behind the plate, it’s a slight competitive advantage over other players at the position. That’s the main reason why I have Willson Contreras and Perez ranked a tier higher than Chad. I’m willing to pay that premium to get their level of production in my lineup without having to worry about a replacement level catcher to make up the ~30–40 games my primary catcher will miss.

Ottoneu C Rankings – Tier 4 & 5
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
7 J.T. Realmuto C $6-$9 558.00 4.76 1.18 $3-$5
8 Cal Raleigh C $6-$9 686.90 4.75 1.17 $6-$9
9 Sean Murphy C $6-$9 463.40 4.64 1.16 $3-$5
10 Iván Herrera C $6-$9 375.50 4.62 1.24 $1-$2
11 Ryan Jeffers C $6-$9 467.80 4.36 1.17 $3-$5
12 Tyler Stephenson C $6-$9 572.60 4.34 1.14 $3-$5
13 Gabriel Moreno C $6-$9 461.10 4.29 1.17 $6-$9
14 Shea Langeliers C $3-$5 541.50 4.19 1.08 $3-$5
15 Logan O’Hoppe C $3-$5 482.80 4.13 1.07 $3-$5
16 Joey Bart C $3-$5 335.20 4.11 1.09 $1-$2
17 Francisco Alvarez C $3-$5 453.70 4.00 1.10 $6-$9
18 Austin Wells C $3-$5 420.00 3.96 1.08 $3-$5
19 Alejandro Kirk C $3-$5 442.50 3.95 1.06 $3-$5

In his first full season as the Cardinals backstop, Herrera impressed with a .351 wOBA and excellent batted ball peripherals to back up that performance. He’s projected to start the season in a timeshare with Pedro Pagés, but I’m willing to bet that his bat will quickly prove that he’s the superior option and will wind up the primary catcher by midseason.

After a promising rookie campaign in 2023, Alvarez followed it up with a weird season in ‘24. His wOBA was exactly the same but his power output fell pretty significantly and his BABIP increased by a nice 69 points. The root causes were a jump in his groundball rate by more than eight points and a barrel rate that was nearly cut in half. Even though his overall production stayed stable, the shape of it is a bit concerning and has me worried about his potential ceiling.

Ottoneu C Rankings – Tier 6 & 7
Rank Player Position Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
20 Tyler Soderstrom C/1B $1-$2 405.50 4.44 1.08 $1-$2
21 David Fry C/1B/OF $1-$2 394.60 4.03 1.28 $1-$2
22 Danny Jansen C $1-$2 343.10 3.87 1.07 $1-$2
23 Keibert Ruiz C $1-$2 464.10 3.72 0.94 $1-$2
24 Hunter Goodman C/OF $1-$2 255.80 3.68 1.03 $1-$2
25 Bo Naylor C $1-$2 339.00 3.16 0.94 $1-$2
26 Adrian Del Castillo C $0-$1 142.70 4.69 1.24 $0-$1
27 Connor Wong C/1B $0-$1 460.20 3.96 1.07 $0-$1
28 Mitch Garver C $0-$1 371.50 3.86 1.01 $0-$1
29 Luis Campusano C $0-$1 312.00 3.63 1.02 $0-$1
30 Freddy Fermin C $0-$1 319.60 3.46 1.02 $0-$1
31 Jonah Heim C $0-$1 414.50 3.42 0.91 $0-$1
32 Patrick Bailey C $0-$1 378.60 3.29 0.89 $0
33 Samuel Basallo C/1B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
34 Dalton Rushing C/OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
35 Kyle Teel C $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
36 Tom Murphy C $0 203.40 4.35 1.19 $0
37 Travis d’Arnaud C $0 351.60 4.03 1.10 $0
38 Elias Díaz C $0 394.50 3.69 1.00 $0
39 Gary Sánchez C $0 301.00 3.56 1.05 $0
40 Victor Caratini C/1B $0 262.80 3.47 1.06 $0
41 Yan Gomes C $0 275.10 3.44 0.97 $0
42 Jacob Stallings C $0 279.40 3.30 0.98 $0
43 Kyle Higashioka C $0 275.20 3.27 1.04 $0
44 Carson Kelly C $0 262.80 3.24 0.93 $0
45 Yasmani Grandal C $0 281.60 3.18 0.91 $0
46 Jake Rogers C $0 314.50 3.12 0.90 $0
47 Pedro Pagés C $0 195.10 3.08 0.92 $0
48 James McCann C $0 201.30 3.07 0.89 $0
49 Miguel Amaya C $0 280.30 2.91 0.92 $0-$1
50 Henry Davis C $0 132.70 2.86 0.73 $0-$1
51 Jose Trevino C $0 205.40 2.84 0.88 $0
52 René Pinto C $0 100.90 2.76 1.00 $0
53 Ben Rice C/1B $0 128.90 2.73 0.79 $0-$1
54 Christian Bethancourt 베탄코트 C $0 209.00 2.66 0.86 $0
55 Christian Vázquez C $0 249.40 2.65 0.77 $0
56 Ben Rortvedt C $0 216.30 2.44 0.80 $0
57 Reese McGuire C $0 145.30 2.39 0.84 $0
58 Nick Fortes C $0 235.50 2.30 0.74 $0
59 Korey Lee C $0 228.90 2.24 0.71 $0

Ottoneu: Jake’s Keep or Cut Decisions at SP

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Lucas kicked off our final position group as we look at our difficult keep or cut decisions ahead of the keeper deadline. Here are four starting pitchers on my keep/cut bubble.

Aaron Nola, SP
Salary: $34
Average Salary: $33
2024 P/G: 4.26
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.39

2024 was the second consecutive season in which Aaron Nola’s FIP approached four. It’s not hard to see why; after a three-year stretch with a strikeout rate of 30% and a HR/FB rate of 12.5% from 2020-22, Nola has seen both of those metrics deteriorate pretty significantly. His 24% strikeout rate last year was the lowest that metrics has been since his rookie season back in 2015, and while he’s always struggled a bit with a home run problem, that issue has been exacerbated over the last two years.

The good news is that his trademark curveball is still a fantastically effective weapon and his four-seamer plays incredibly well off that breaking ball. The bad news is that his changeup and cutter both lost a ton of effectiveness in 2024, giving him fewer options to attack batters with. Until those other secondary offering regain their bite, I’m not sure he has the same kind of ceiling that we saw in 2022 when he posted a 2.58 FIP.

What Nola does have going for him is a steady track record of solid production while also making more than 30 starts in six straight seasons (ignoring the pandemic shortened season). That kind of bulk production certainly has value but if you’re expecting a front-line starter and paying those kinds of prices to roster him, I’m afraid you’re going to be sorely disappointed. It’s also worth mentioning that Nola is a far better pitcher in 5×5 or 4×4 formats since his high home run rates really hurt him in Ottoneu points leagues.

Keep or cut?

I’m cutting at $34 and I’d expect to see a ton of shares of Nola cut across the Ottoneu universe as players realize he’s just not the ace that his $33 average salary assumes he is anymore. I’m expecting a bit of a rebound — and the projections agree to a certain extent — but I wouldn’t pay more than $15 to keep him on my roster at this point.

George Kirby, SP
Salary: $34, $19, $18
Average Salary: $19
2024 P/G: 4.92
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.72

I’m really conflicted about what to do with George Kirby. He’s one of my favorite pitchers to watch because he’s an absolute surgeon with his deep repertoire of outstanding pitches. Unfortunately, that precise command seems to be the cause of a lot of the issues that he’s had trouble overcoming during his first three seasons in the big leagues. Because he locates his pitches in the zone so frequently, batters can more easily identify out-of-the-zone pitches when he’s seeking a whiff. Despite running an elite 29.1% whiff rate on his four-seamer, batters have learned to sit on that pitch and regularly punish it after spitting on his secondary offerings.

This tension between maintaining an otherworldly strikeout-to-walk ratio and limiting the hard contact he allows doesn’t have an easy answer either. He’s going to have to figure out how to maximize his secondary offerings while working on a less predictable approach to give batters some pause when they’re facing him. That might mean a few more walks over the course of the season, but if the result is more strikeouts and fewer balls in play, Kirby will likely continue to thrive. If he doesn’t make the necessary adjustments, then the depressed projection might be more accurate than we’d like.

Keep or cut?

I’m cutting at $34 (or desperately trying to find a trade partner who really believes in Kirby), but keeping at $18 and $19. That’s pretty close to his current ceiling, but those adjustments could obviously break things wide open and that’s what you’re hoping for if you’re keeping him in the mid-$20s.

Taj Bradley, SP
Salary: $10
Average Salary: $8
2024 P/G: 4.29
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.42

Taj Bradley started off last year brilliantly; through his first 14 starts, he had posted a 2.43 ERA and a 3.41 FIP behind a fantastic 30% strikeout rate. He fell apart in August and September and ended the season with an ERA and FIP both above four. It was just his second taste of the big leagues and many of his underlying metrics look promising, but there are still big questions about his ability to leverage those skills into a complete package.

All three of his secondary offerings returned a whiff rate over 30% last year. There are just a handful of pitchers who can say the same thing and all of them who can are among the best pitchers in baseball. Bradley’s downfall is his fastball. It’s got good physical characteristics — his 129 Stuff+ on his heater is outstanding — but batters don’t seem phased by it. Its whiff rate is decent, but when the pitch gets put in play, it gets absolutely pounded to the tune of a .391 xwOBA and a .500 slugging percentage against. Since he doesn’t have precise command of his repertoire, too many of his fastballs get left over the heart of the plate where they’re absolutely crushed.

The nasty secondary offerings give me hope that he’ll figure things out but I can’t ignore the very real contact issues he’s faced that have led to far too many home runs. His start to last year gives us a pretty good glimpse of what could be if things go right, but his second half is the red flag that warns us not to pay for that ceiling yet.

Keep or cut?

I honestly could go either way on keeping at $10 and so the decision likely comes down to team context and how my budget is shaping up. That double digit salary is the absolute highest I’d want to roster him for at this point.

Bowden Francis, SP
Salary: $5, $7
Average Salary: $7
2024 P/G: 4.46
Projected 2025 P/G: 3.68

Across his final nine starts of the season, Bowden Francis was nearly unhittable, producing a 1.53 ERA while striking out 56 in 59 innings. Those sterling results hid a lackluster 3.42 FIP and 3.75 xFIP during that stretch. Everyone is pointing to the splitter he added to his repertoire last year as the meaningful difference maker but I’d like to point out that he also increased the usage of his slider in August and September and that pitch returned a whiff rate over 50% during those two hot months.

Of course, the projection systems aren’t buying into that two-month stretch yet. They see a pretty steep drop off from what he accomplished in 2024, backed up by his advanced age and long minor league track record. An age-28 breakout isn’t unheard of but it’s pretty rare and it’s unlikely an indicator of a major talent change.

Keep or cut?

At $5, I’m interested in seeing if he really has made a tweak to his slider to unlock that pitch as a true swing-and-miss weapon. At $7, he has too many warts and question marks to keep.


Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Middle Infield

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After starting off with the largest position group last week, Chad and I are back with tiered Ottoneu rankings for the second largest position group: the two middle infield positions.

Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: MI | OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: MI | OF

You can find all of the information about the format and methodology in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

The two middle infield positions are really interesting beasts to tackle. They’re both extremely top heavy with some of the best players in the game populating the top of these ranks. There’s a very steep cliff down from the top to the middle class and then the positions get really deep in the bargain bin section. You’re very likely to find a replacement level MI on the waiver wire if you look hard enough, which is important if you didn’t secure one or two of those top options on your roster. Because these positions are so top heavy, I think I’m willing to invest a little more budget to ensure I get one of the top options which is reflected in my rankings being a little higher than Chad’s pretty much across the board.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu MI Rankings – Tier 1–3
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 Bobby Witt Jr. SS $55-$65 1087.90 6.95 1.59 $45-$54
2 Mookie Betts 2B/SS/OF $55-$65 978.90 7.09 1.58 $45-$54
3 Corey Seager SS $45-$54 845.50 6.72 1.53 $36-$44
4 Gunnar Henderson SS $36-$44 1006.10 6.63 1.50 $36-$44
5 Ketel Marte 2B $36-$44 913.80 6.40 1.48 $28-$35

There are exactly six players with a points per game played projection higher than Witt and he’s younger than all of them. If I was starting a brand-new Ottoneu league today, Witt might be my number one target to build around. You’re going to pay a premium to get Betts’s positional flexibility, but it might be worth it to roster one of the best players in baseball and be able to line him up wherever you want. I went back and forth on ranking Betts and Witt number one, but ultimately decided on Witt’s youth as the separator.

I have Marte a tier higher than Chad because he’s clearly the top 2B in baseball now (if you’re playing Betts at shortstop) and all of his contact quality peripherals took a huge jump in 2024. This isn’t a repeat of his 2019 “breakout” with the rabbit ball; this is legit improvement across every significant batted ball metric fueling a dramatic increase in production.

Ottoneu MI Rankings – Tier 4 & 5
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
6 Francisco Lindor SS $28-$35 944.40 6.12 1.38 $28-$35
7 Elly De La Cruz SS $28-$35 859.30 5.91 1.35 $28-$35
8 Trea Turner SS $28-$35 824.40 5.80 1.30 $21-$27
9 Matt McLain Util $21-$27 735.60 6.03 1.37 $15-$20
10 Jose Altuve 2B $21-$27 838.00 5.95 1.32 $21-$27
11 Ozzie Albies 2B $21-$27 711.00 5.52 1.25 $21-$27
12 Carlos Correa SS $21-$27 651.60 5.48 1.26 $15-$20
13 Oneil Cruz SS/OF $21-$27 756.40 5.33 1.27 $21-$27
14 Marcus Semien 2B $21-$27 829.70 5.26 1.16 $21-$27

This second group of middle infielders all have their warts, though they’re still clearly a step above the pack. Whether it’s age (Altuve, Semien), injury (McLain, Correa), or inconsistent production (De Le Cruz, Cruz), it’s a lot harder to predict what you’re going to get from this cohort.

Turner is a tricky one to peg. He had the hiccup in 2023 in his first season in Philadelphia and then rebounded a bit in ‘24 thanks to a 20 point increase in his BABIP. Worryingly, his power output fell quite a bit and his contact quality wasn’t as sterling as it’s been in the past. The track record speaks for itself, but he just hasn’t been the same player as before since joining the Phillies.

Ottoneu MI Rankings – Tier 6 & 7
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
15 Willy Adames SS $15-$20 797.80 5.19 1.21 $15-$20
16 Bo Bichette SS $15-$20 648.40 5.19 1.18 $15-$20
17 Jordan Westburg 2B/3B $15-$20 546.30 4.94 1.23 $15-$20
18 Xavier Edwards SS $10-$14 562.20 5.66 1.24 $6-$9
19 Luis Arraez 1B/2B $10-$14 790.90 5.31 1.21 $6-$9
20 Brandon Lowe 1B/2B $10-$14 558.90 5.04 1.21 $10-$14
21 Jonathan India 2B $10-$14 691.60 5.03 1.17 $10-$14
22 CJ Abrams SS $10-$14 703.50 5.02 1.17 $10-$14
23 Spencer Horwitz 1B/2B $10-$14 522.30 5.02 1.25 $6-$9
24 Brendan Donovan 2B/3B/OF $10-$14 683.20 4.97 1.18 $10-$14
25 Xander Bogaerts 2B/SS $10-$14 686.40 4.96 1.19 $6-$9

I was really tempted to put Edwards in a higher tier because his projection is so rosy. So much of his success in 2024 was BABIP fueled, but he rode high BABIPs to great success as a minor leaguer. He’s got a great knack for squaring the ball up, even if he doesn’t have much oomph behind his swings, plus he’s got a great eye at the plate. It’s a volatile profile, but I think there’s value here.

Jordan Westburg has a weirdly low projection but his contact quality metrics are all solid. You’d obviously like to see a little higher walk rate from him, but he’s aggressive enough in the right counts to make the approach work. I originally had him in a tier lower, but I think his talent will push him into this higher tier once he gets a full season in the majors.

Ottoneu MI Rankings – Tier 8 & 9
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
26 Gleyber Torres 2B $6-$9 738.20 4.83 1.13 $10-$14
27 Ezequiel Tovar SS $6-$9 738.50 4.80 1.12 $10-$14
28 Nico Hoerner 2B/SS $6-$9 698.60 4.80 1.12 $3-$5
29 Masyn Winn SS $6-$9 667.90 4.75 1.09 $6-$9
30 Luis Rengifo 2B/3B $6-$9 545.30 4.72 1.17 $6-$9
31 Zach Neto SS $6-$9 644.00 4.70 1.20 $6-$9
32 Connor Norby 2B/3B/OF $6-$9 496.40 4.70 1.05 $3-$5
33 Dansby Swanson SS $6-$9 686.20 4.58 1.11 $6-$9
34 Luis Garcia 2B $6-$9 593.20 4.51 1.16 $10-$14
35 Kristian Campbell 2B/SS/OF $3-$5 347.80 4.88 1.22 $6-$9
36 Tyler Fitzgerald SS/OF $3-$5 531.00 4.60 1.16 $3-$5
38 J.P. Crawford SS $3-$5 585.40 4.49 1.06 $0-$1
39 Jonathan Aranda 1B/2B $3-$5 261.00 4.39 1.13 $6-$9
40 Jake Cronenworth 1B/2B $3-$5 642.10 4.37 1.05 $3-$5
41 Bryson Stott 2B/SS $3-$5 641.80 4.34 1.10 $3-$5
42 Jeremy Pena SS $3-$5 655.00 4.31 1.05 $3-$5
43 Matt Shaw 2B/SS/3B $3-$5 527.80 4.29 1.12 $6-$9
44 Jeff McNeil 2B/OF $3-$5 598.60 4.25 1.08 $3-$5
45 Nick Gonzales 2B/SS $3-$5 417.30 4.25 1.05 $3-$5
46 Tommy Edman SS/OF $3-$5 529.90 4.25 1.09 $3-$5
47 Jacob Wilson윌슨 SS $3-$5 430.30 4.23 1.12 $3-$5
48 Josh Smith SS/3B/OF $3-$5 504.30 4.21 1.08 $1-$2
49 Andrés Giménez 2B $3-$5 628.40 4.18 1.03 $6-$9
50 Trevor Story SS $3-$5 430.80 4.13 0.97 $3-$5
51 Anthony Volpe SS $3-$5 644.10 4.10 0.98 $6-$9
52 Joey Ortiz SS/3B $3-$5 580.60 4.04 1.10 $3-$5
53 Christopher Morel 2B/3B/OF $3-$5 532.80 4.03 1.01 $6-$9
54 Colt Keith 2B $3-$5 563.80 4.02 1.04 $6-$9
55 Zack Gelof 2B $3-$5 513.30 3.94 0.98 $1-$2
56 Jackson Holliday 2B $3-$5 296.40 3.47 0.95 $10-$14

Finally! Some guys I’m lower on than Chad! Torres gave back all the gains he made with his strikeout rate in 2023 and posted a disappointing final season in the Bronx. Now he’s in Detroit and I really don’t like that park fit. Tovar has the ideal park fit but his hyper aggressive approach is going to produce some really low slumps to go along with his altitude fueled production. I really like the improvements Garcia has made over the last few years, but I just don’t see the ceiling to pay double digits for him right now.

My perspective on prospects is pretty starkly shown in my ranking of Jackson Holliday. Yes, he has a very high ceiling and he only just turned old enough to drink last month, but his debut season in the big leagues was a disaster all around. There were a few encouraging things under the hood, but he really needs to prove it before I’m comfortable investing a significant portion of my budget on rostering him. Could I regret that stance in a few years when he’s established himself as a superstar? Maybe.

Ottoneu MI Rankings – Tier 10–12
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
57 Will Wagner 1B/2B $1-$2 244.70 4.88 1.15 $3-$5
37 Ha-Seong Kim 김하성 SS $1-$2 599.40 4.51 1.14 $1-$2
58 Jordan Lawlar Util $1-$2 248.40 4.26 1.05 $3-$5
59 Willi Castro 2B/SS/3B/OF $1-$2 618.70 4.25 1.06 $0-$1
60 Nolan Gorman 2B $1-$2 426.30 4.21 1.11 $3-$5
61 Ronny Mauricio Util $1-$2 129.20 4.20 1.02 $1-$2
62 Nick Yorke 2B/OF $1-$2 359.40 4.19 1.06 $1-$2
63 Jorge Polanco 2B $1-$2 462.60 4.14 1.01 $0-$1
64 Thairo Estrada 2B $1-$2 456.10 4.08 1.00 $3-$5
65 Edouard Julien 2B $1-$2 387.30 4.00 1.09 $0-$1
66 Christian Moore 2B $1-$2 225.40 3.98 0.99 $3-$5
67 Otto Lopez 2B/SS $1-$2 455.00 3.94 1.05 $0-$1
68 Michael Massey 2B $1-$2 444.80 3.94 1.05 $1-$2
69 Juan Brito 1B/2B/3B $1-$2 263.00 3.87 0.98 $0-$1
70 Brice Turang 2B $1-$2 559.90 3.83 1.00 $1-$2
71 Brooks Lee 2B/SS/3B $1-$2 381.00 3.80 0.99 $3-$5
72 Maikel Garcia 2B/3B $1-$2 542.40 3.77 0.94 $0-$1
73 Gavin Lux 2B $1-$2 475.20 3.74 1.05 $3-$5
74 Luisangel Acuña 2B/SS/OF $1-$2 223.80 3.73 0.94 $1-$2
75 Ceddanne Rafaela 2B/SS/OF $1-$2 490.50 3.60 0.96 $0-$1
76 Jose Iglesias 2B/3B $0-$1 435.40 4.26 1.10 $0-$1
77 Brendan Rodgers 2B $0-$1 493.20 4.20 1.04 $0
78 Geraldo Perdomo SS $0-$1 455.60 3.68 1.03 $0-$1
79 Dylan Moore 1B/2B/SS/3B/OF $0-$1 453.00 3.67 1.05 $0
80 Orlando Arcia SS $0-$1 511.10 3.55 0.93 $0-$1
81 Brett Baty 2B/3B $0-$1 328.70 3.41 0.91 $1-$2
82 Trey Sweeney SS $0-$1 225.70 3.40 0.91 $0-$1
83 Vaughn Grissom 2B $0-$1 109.60 3.24 0.85 $1-$2
84 Carson Williams SS $0-$1 179.60 3.70 0.92 $3-$5
85 Sebastian Walcott SS/3B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
86 Travis Bazzana 2B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
87 Marcelo Mayer SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
88 JJ Wetherholt SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
89 Leodalis De Vries SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
90 Aidan Miller SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
91 Cole Young 2B/SS $0-$1 217.00 3.53 0.88 $0
92 Colt Emerson SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
93 Colson Montgomery SS $0-$1 321.20 3.30 0.82 $0-$1
94 Jett Williams SS $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
95 Adael Amador 2B $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $0-$1
96 Brandon Drury 1B/2B/3B $0 404.00 3.87 0.97 $0-$1
97 Amed Rosario 2B/SS/3B/OF $0 442.70 3.83 1.00 $0
98 Whit Merrifield 2B/3B/OF $0 432.70 3.82 0.97 $0
99 Richie Palacios 2B/OF $0 299.10 3.82 1.05 $0-$1
100 Shay Whitcomb SS/3B $0 129.60 3.81 0.95 $0
101 Angel Martínez 2B/OF $0 175.10 3.73 0.90 $0
102 José Tena 2B/SS/3B $0 272.20 3.72 0.96 $0
103 David Hamilton 2B/SS $0 317.90 3.70 1.13 $0-$1
104 Isiah Kiner-Falefa 2B/SS/3B $0 468.80 3.64 0.95 $0-$1
105 Hyeseong Kim 김혜성 Util $0 N/A N/A N/A $0
106 Ernie Clement SS/3B $0 394.40 3.48 1.01 $0-$1
107 Weston Wilson SS/3B/OF $0 128.40 3.45 1.22 $0
108 Lenyn Sosa 2B/3B $0 310.30 3.39 0.89 $0
109 Ezequiel Duran 1B/SS/3B/OF $0 316.00 3.36 0.99 $0
110 Chris Taylor 2B/3B/OF $0 314.20 3.29 0.99 $0
111 Oswald Peraza SS $0 176.70 3.24 0.83 $0
112 Paul DeJong SS/3B $0 376.80 3.23 0.93 $0
113 Davis Schneider 2B/OF $0 358.20 3.22 0.93 $1-$2
114 Leo Jiménez 2B/SS $0 178.90 3.20 0.99 $0
115 Josh Rojas 2B/3B $0 387.50 3.19 0.93 $0
116 Mauricio Dubón 1B/2B/3B/OF $0 388.10 3.17 0.95 $0
117 Abraham Toro 2B/3B $0 273.40 3.16 0.84 $0
118 Jose Caballero 2B/SS/3B $0 369.20 3.14 0.93 $0
119 Edmundo Sosa 2B/SS/3B $0 272.30 3.13 1.08 $0
120 Miguel Rojas 2B/SS/3B $0 334.00 3.12 0.93 $0
121 Jared Triolo 2B/SS/3B $0 307.80 3.05 0.86 $0
122 Kyle Farmer 2B/SS/3B $0 325.40 3.02 0.99 $0
123 Enrique Hernández 1B/2B/SS/3B/OF $0 356.70 3.00 0.88 $0-$1
124 Javier Báez SS $0 316.80 3.00 0.76 $0
125 Santiago Espinal 2B/3B $0 312.90 3.00 0.92 $0
126 Andy Ibáñez 1B/2B/3B $0 279.40 2.98 1.00 $0
127 Brayan Rocchio SS $0 389.10 2.96 0.90 $0-$1
128 Blaze Alexander 2B/SS/3B $0 161.40 2.93 0.90 $0
129 Jorge Mateo 2B $0 276.50 2.92 0.93 $0
130 Kevin Newman 1B/2B/SS $0 265.70 2.91 0.96 $0
131 Max Schuemann 2B/SS/3B/OF $0 336.00 2.85 0.85 $0
132 Daniel Schneemann SS/3B/OF $0 182.00 2.84 0.93 $0
133 Cavan Biggio 1B/2B/3B/OF $0 244.00 2.82 0.95 $0
134 Zach McKinstry 2B/SS/3B/OF $0 328.60 2.81 0.89 $0
135 Adam Frazier 2B/3B/OF $0 323.10 2.79 0.86 $0
136 Tim Anderson SS $0 237.90 2.76 0.66 $0
137 Oswaldo Cabrera 1B/2B/3B $0 272.00 2.68 0.89 $0-$1
138 Austin Martin 2B/OF $0 216.80 2.67 0.94 $0
139 Tyler Freeman SS/OF $0 252.50 2.66 0.86 $0
140 Taylor Walls SS $0 246.80 2.65 0.79 $0
141 Enmanuel Valdez 2B $0 171.80 2.62 0.92 $0
142 Ildemaro Vargas 2B/SS/3B/OF $0 219.60 2.62 0.84 $0
143 Nick Madrigal 2B/3B $0 172.40 2.62 0.86 $0
144 Marco Luciano 2B/SS $0 72.30 2.59 0.74 $0-$1
145 Romy Gonzalez 1B/2B/SS/3B $0 178.90 2.53 1.08 $0
146 Nicky Lopez 2B/SS $0 274.70 2.52 0.73 $0
147 Curtis Mead 2B/3B $0 79.50 2.36 0.69 $1-$2
148 Casey Schmitt 2B/SS/3B $0 153.40 2.34 0.79 $0
149 Luis Guillorme 2B/3B $0 163.00 2.30 0.83 $0
150 Gabriel Arias SS/3B $0 187.50 2.26 0.81 $0
151 Trey Lipscomb 2B/3B $0 108.20 2.02 0.59 $0
152 Vidal Bruján 2B/SS/3B/OF $0 158.50 1.96 0.73 $0

Jake Mailhot’s 2025 Tiered Ottoneu Rankings: Outfield

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After a year hiatus, I’ll be presenting my Ottoneu tiered positional rankings alongside Chad. If you’re wondering about the format and methodology, you can find all of that in Chad’s introduction to these rankings. I’ve matched his tiers so that it’s easy to compare across rankings and to provide a common language to discuss these rankings.

Jake Mailhot’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: OF
Chad Young’s Ottoneu Position Rankings: OF

Here are few more notes about my process:

  • Projected points. I’ve been building my own homebrewed projections for the past decade plus, ever since I started playing Ottoneu, and they form the basis for the rankings below. They’re nothing overly complicated; essentially just a MARCEL-esque projection using three years of historical data filtered through a rough aging curve and adjusted for the current run environment. I also include a collection of three public projection systems (ZiPS, Steamer, and PECOTA) to provide some additional context. That gives each player six data sources that form their projection. Currently, the projections below only include Steamer and the ZiPS25 projections that were posted last year, not the updated 2025 projections that Dan Szymborski is currently rolling out.
  • P/G vs P/PA. Points per game played is the gold standard by which you should be evaluating players in Ottoneu. I won’t argue with that. That measure does have some drawbacks, particularly for players who pinch hit, pinch run, or are used as defensive substitutions often. Those limited appearances can skew a player’s P/G lower than what they’re producing when they’re getting three or four plate appearances when they start a game. To provide a little more context for these kinds of players, I’ve also included points per plate appearance below. That measure should give us a better idea of how a player produces no matter how he’s used by his team.

In Ottoneu, you’re afforded five starting spots for your outfielders. That creates a situation where the position is simultaneously deep and shallow. The top of the position is filled with superstars but you’ll be able to find solid production all the way down into the middle tiers. There does seem to be a pretty significant drop off once you get 40 deep which means you’ll likely be filling out the last couple of spots in your outfield with flawed players. Generally, if you’re able to fill at least three of your OF spots with full-time, consistent contributors, you can grab a handful of low cost players to mix and match and platoon based on matchups.

Rather than give notes on every player like Chad, I’ll give my general thoughts on each tier below and discuss the outlier players I like more or less than his rankings. Let’s get into it.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 1 & 2
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
1 Aaron Judge OF $55-$65 1304.10 8.92 2.02 $66-$77
2 Juan Soto OF $55-$65 1173.30 7.51 1.69 $55-$65
3 Ronald Acuña Jr. OF $45-$54 986.70 7.91 1.73 $36-$44
4 Yordan Alvarez OF $45-$54 1022.70 7.53 1.74 $45-$54
5 Kyle Tucker OF $45-$54 900.20 6.74 1.57 $36-$44

You can’t go wrong with either of these guys at the top of the rankings. Chad has Judge in a tier all on his own above Soto but I think they’re closer in value simply based on Soto’s age. On that basis alone, you could make an argument that Soto should be ranked first — I won’t make that argument, but you could.

I understand the trepidation behind Chad ranking Acuña lower in his rankings, but the projections absolutely believe that he’ll return from his knee injury and simply continue producing like one of the best players in baseball. It probably won’t be as simple as that, but the talent is undeniable and he’s still just 27 years old.

I also have Tucker and Tatis Jr. swapped in the rankings and that’s mostly due to the wide gap in the projections between the two. There’s a pretty significant cliff between the two of them, and all things considered, I’d rather have Tucker around $50 than Tatis Jr. at the same price.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 3 & 4
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
6 Fernando Tatis Jr. OF $36-$44 815.70 6.27 1.41 $45-$54
7 Kyle Schwarber OF $36-$44 954.10 6.24 1.38 $36-$44
8 Corbin Carroll OF $36-$44 897.80 5.88 1.37 $36-$44
9 Julio Rodríguez OF $36-$44 845.00 5.74 1.30 $36-$44
10 Jackson Chourio OF $36-$44 798.40 5.37 1.31 $28-$35
11 Mike Trout OF $28-$35 644.30 6.43 1.47 $28-$35
12 Brent Rooker OF $28-$35 887.00 6.15 1.47 $21-$27

Although they’re in the same tier as Chad, I’ve ranked that trio of young outfielders a little lower ordinally. Both Carroll and Rodríguez struggled to some degree in 2024 and Chourio only just got his first taste of the big leagues last year. The sky’s the limit for all three of them, but I think you’re going to suffer though some growing pains with all of them before they really hit their ceiling.

I originally had Trout in the tier above in my first draft of these rankings but I think I agree with Chad; we really just don’t know what to expect from him anymore and the reality is that you’re probably paying for a partial season and will be pleasantly surprised if he can stay healthy for 150 games.

I also have Rooker a tier above Chad though ordinally ranked the same. I believe in the changes he’s made to his plate approach last year and the contact quality is undeniable. Plus, he’ll be playing in a much friendlier home ballpark in Sacramento.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 5
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
13 Jarren Duran OF $21-$27 876.80 6.14 1.36 $15-$20
14 Christian Yelich OF $21-$27 749.00 6.04 1.37 $21-$27
15 Seiya Suzuki OF $21-$27 789.10 5.84 1.35 $21-$27
16 Riley Greene OF $21-$27 731.00 5.61 1.30 $21-$27
17 Bryan Reynolds OF $21-$27 843.20 5.60 1.27 $21-$27
18 Anthony Santander OF $21-$27 846.60 5.54 1.30 $15-$20
19 Teoscar Hernández OF $21-$27 829.80 5.43 1.29 $21-$27
20 Ian Happ OF $21-$27 832.60 5.41 1.25 $15-$20
21 Jackson Merrill OF $21-$27 820.80 5.34 1.36 $21-$27
22 Michael Harris II OF $21-$27 687.40 5.34 1.28 $21-$27

This is a really interesting tier because you’ll find stable veterans who will consistently produce in Yelich, Suzuki, and Reynolds alongside youngsters who broke out last year in Duran, Greene, Merrill. Do you want that stability or would you rather dream on a guy who could grow? I think most Ottoneu players would say the latter, which means the former is a little undervalued, especially for teams who need just a piece or two to push for a championship.

I like Duran a bit more than Chad and a lot more than the projections. Duran improved his barrel rate by nearly four points while simultaneously improving his plate discipline in his breakout 2024 season. Steamer sees a pretty significant step back from that level of production but I believe in the changes and think he can replicate it this season.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 6 & 7
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
23 James Wood OF $15-$20 623.90 5.55 1.27 $15-$20
24 Kerry Carpenter OF $15-$20 555.70 5.37 1.36 $15-$20
25 Steven Kwan OF $15-$20 761.50 5.36 1.19 $15-$20
26 Brandon Nimmo OF $15-$20 795.40 5.35 1.22 $15-$20
27 Tyler O’Neill OF $15-$20 580.00 5.31 1.27 $10-$14
28 Jorge Soler OF $15-$20 713.90 5.28 1.28 $10-$14
29 Cody Bellinger 1B/OF $15-$20 698.30 5.25 1.25 $10-$14
30 Lawrence Butler OF $15-$20 659.90 5.23 1.27 $15-$20
31 Wyatt Langford OF $15-$20 707.00 5.11 1.21 $15-$20
32 Luis Robert Jr. OF $15-$20 658.20 5.11 1.20 $15-$20
33 Jung Hoo Lee 이정후 OF $10-$14 637.30 5.65 1.23 $6-$9
34 Byron Buxton OF $10-$14 570.30 5.29 1.30 $6-$9
35 Jurickson Profar OF $10-$14 776.50 5.23 1.24 $6-$9
36 TJ Friedl OF $10-$14 590.90 5.09 1.22 $3-$5
37 Taylor Ward OF $10-$14 722.90 5.07 1.18 $10-$14
38 Heliot Ramos OF $10-$14 651.80 5.06 1.22 $6-$9
39 Spencer Steer 1B/OF $10-$14 756.00 5.06 1.21 $10-$14
40 Randy Arozarena OF $10-$14 753.10 4.95 1.17 $6-$9

For Soler and Bellinger, I think their new home ballparks will give them both a boost into a higher tier.

Lee and Buxton both have great projections but their health is a huge question mark. If you’re okay with that risk, they could both be really solid players for your team, except they may only be available for half a season.

Friedl is probably the biggest disagreement between me and Chad’s rankings. I get that all of Friedl’s underlying batted ball metrics look pretty terrible, but his plate approach is stellar and I think there’s a bit of Isaac Paredes in him. His pull rate was over 48% in 2024 and I think he’s selective enough to do damage on his pulled contact while still slapping singles around the field. The biggest reason his production fell last year was because his BABIP cratered to .229; in 2023 when he posted a 115 wRC+, his BABIP was just a hair above league average at .308. He also doesn’t have a traditional platoon split; rather, he has a reverse split where he’s been able to thrive against left-handed pitching by putting the ball in play while reserving all of his pulled and elevated contact against right-handed pitching.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 8-11
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
41 Matt Wallner OF $6-$9 479.40 5.18 1.32 $6-$9
42 Nolan Jones OF $6-$9 502.80 5.05 1.27 $6-$9
43 Lars Nootbaar OF $6-$9 572.00 4.95 1.25 $10-$14
44 Lourdes Gurriel Jr. OF $6-$9 661.70 4.91 1.19 $6-$9
45 Nick Castellanos OF $6-$9 741.20 4.79 1.16 $3-$5
46 Adolis García OF $6-$9 715.40 4.78 1.15 $6-$9
47 Lane Thomas OF $6-$9 675.10 4.78 1.15 $3-$5
48 Dylan Crews OF $6-$9 522.00 4.78 1.06 $6-$9
49 George Springer OF $6-$9 692.60 4.75 1.09 $3-$5
50 Josh Lowe OF $6-$9 545.70 4.74 1.23 $6-$9
51 Michael Toglia 1B/OF $6-$9 527.50 4.71 1.17 $6-$9
52 Parker Meadows OF $6-$9 470.80 4.71 1.10 $6-$9
53 JJ Bleday OF $6-$9 657.10 4.67 1.12 $3-$5
54 Colton Cowser OF $6-$9 637.50 4.59 1.19 $10-$14
55 LaMonte Wade Jr. 1B/OF $6-$9 534.00 4.56 1.21 $6-$9
56 Jasson Domínguez OF $6-$9 529.00 4.55 1.17 $6-$9
57 Wilyer Abreu OF $6-$9 521.80 4.42 1.21 $6-$9
58 Luke Raley 1B/OF $6-$9 539.00 4.37 1.24 $1-$2
59 Garrett Mitchell OF $3-$5 403.70 4.77 1.17 $1-$2
60 Trevor Larnach OF $3-$5 477.90 4.62 1.17 $3-$5
61 Heston Kjerstad OF $3-$5 327.10 4.57 1.12 $1-$2
62 Brenton Doyle OF $3-$5 655.50 4.55 1.13 $6-$9
63 Jordan Walker OF $3-$5 487.60 4.50 1.14 $6-$9
64 Victor Robles OF $3-$5 472.70 4.49 1.13 $1-$2
65 Starling Marte OF $3-$5 420.80 4.43 1.09 $1-$2
66 Alec Burleson 1B/OF $3-$5 574.00 4.40 1.13 $6-$9
67 Roman Anthony OF $3-$5 270.60 4.40 1.10 $6-$9
68 Evan Carter OF $3-$5 361.00 4.39 1.10 $6-$9
69 Michael Conforto OF $3-$5 548.50 4.37 1.14 $6-$9
70 Jesse Winker OF $3-$5 545.50 4.34 1.16 $1-$2
71 Jesús Sánchez OF $3-$5 582.00 4.33 1.17 $6-$9
72 Brandon Marsh OF $3-$5 566.90 4.30 1.20 $3-$5
73 Ryan O’Hearn 1B/OF $3-$5 516.30 4.27 1.20 $3-$5
74 Jake McCarthy OF $3-$5 550.60 4.26 1.16 $3-$5
75 Max Kepler OF $3-$5 491.50 4.24 1.10 $1-$2
76 Jake Fraley OF $3-$5 465.80 4.22 1.18 $1-$2
77 Cedric Mullins OF $3-$5 578.30 4.19 1.13 $1-$2
78 Pete Crow-Armstrong OF $3-$5 482.50 3.78 1.05 $1-$2
79 James Outman OF $1-$2 482.70 4.51 1.21 $0-$1
80 Kris Bryant 1B/OF $1-$2 364.00 4.41 1.03 $1-$2
81 Miguel Andujar OF $1-$2 299.70 4.40 1.02 $0
82 Randal Grichuk OF $1-$2 458.60 4.33 1.25 $0-$1
83 Nathan Lukes OF $1-$2 189.00 4.31 1.11 $0
84 Austin Hays OF $1-$2 479.20 4.26 1.11 $0
85 Tommy Pham OF $1-$2 511.20 4.23 1.04 $0
86 Jhonkensy Noel 1B/OF $1-$2 301.70 4.17 1.16 $1-$2
87 Alex Verdugo OF $1-$2 591.60 4.14 1.00 $0
88 Andrew Benintendi OF $1-$2 565.30 4.13 1.02 $0-$1
89 Mike Tauchman OF $1-$2 439.40 4.11 1.11 $1-$2
90 Chas McCormick OF $1-$2 437.10 4.09 1.12 $0-$1
91 Griffin Conine OF $1-$2 297.80 4.07 0.96 $0
92 Esteury Ruiz OF $1-$2 378.00 4.05 1.05 $0-$1
93 Mike Yastrzemski OF $1-$2 521.50 4.00 1.10 $0
94 Andy Pages OF $1-$2 404.70 3.99 1.05 $1-$2
95 Daulton Varsho OF $1-$2 563.70 3.95 1.03 $0
96 Jerar Encarnacion OF $1-$2 161.20 3.95 1.03 $0
97 Jack Suwinski OF $1-$2 413.80 3.93 1.12 $0-$1
98 Rece Hinds OF $1-$2 83.10 3.90 1.54 $0
99 MJ Melendez OF $1-$2 515.80 3.87 1.02 $1-$2
100 Jarred Kelenic OF $1-$2 459.60 3.87 1.04 $0
101 Mark Canha 1B/OF $0-$1 514.70 4.13 1.10 $0-$1
102 Pavin Smith 1B/OF $0-$1 294.20 4.09 1.14 $1-$2
103 Hunter Renfroe OF $0-$1 481.10 4.02 1.06 $0
104 Sean Bouchard OF $0-$1 129.70 3.91 1.05 $0-$1
105 Bryan De La Cruz OF $0-$1 531.10 3.90 0.96 $0-$1
106 Wenceel Pérez OF $0-$1 390.50 3.80 0.98 $0
107 Kyle Stowers OF $0-$1 359.30 3.70 0.97 $0-$1
108 Sal Frelick OF $0-$1 437.30 3.57 0.96 $0
109 Jo Adell OF $0-$1 409.50 3.56 1.01 $0-$1
110 Will Benson OF $0-$1 389.00 3.46 1.09 $0-$1
111 Jonny DeLuca OF $0-$1 361.00 3.27 0.90 $0-$1
112 Jose Siri OF $0-$1 367.30 3.23 0.93 $0-$1
113 Chase DeLauter OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
114 Walker Jenkins OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
115 Emmanuel Rodriguez OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $3-$5
116 Max Clark OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
117 Charlie Condon Util $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
118 Owen Caissie OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
119 Braden Montgomery Util $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2
120 Colby Thomas OF $0-$1 N/A N/A N/A $1-$2

I think the other big difference between me and Chad — and this is going to be true for every position — is that I just don’t value prospects all that highly. If I’m rostering a prospect, I want them to be nearly MLB-ready, have a clear path to playing time in the near future, and they need to have a high FV grade. Rostering a 50 FV prospect who is two to three years away from even sniffing the majors just doesn’t feel like good value to me. By the time they’re established and producing for your fantasy team, their salary is likely to be $5-$7 higher than what you’re rostering them for currently. That’s why there’s that group of prospects at the tail end of my $0-$1 tier who are all ranked higher by Chad.

Ottoneu OF Rankings – Tier 12
Rank Player Ottoneu Pos. Tier Projected Pts Projected Pts/G Projected Pts/PA Chad’s Tier
121 Ryan Noda 1B/OF $0 433.30 4.47 1.15 $0
122 Rob Refsnyder OF $0 339.80 4.08 1.25 $0-$1
123 Edward Olivares OF $0 315.50 3.92 1.10 $0
124 Harold Ramírez OF $0 388.20 3.86 1.11 $0
125 Sam Hilliard OF $0 235.20 3.85 1.15 $0
126 Ramón Laureano OF $0 372.10 3.79 1.03 $0
127 Stone Garrett OF $0 292.90 3.75 1.30 $0
128 Dane Myers OF $0 172.10 3.68 1.01 $0
129 Connor Joe 1B/OF $0 424.00 3.65 1.04 $0
130 Leody Taveras OF $0 476.80 3.57 0.99 $0
131 Jason Heyward OF $0 332.50 3.56 1.15 $0
132 Nelson Velázquez OF $0 204.30 3.54 1.05 $0-$1
133 Alek Thomas OF $0 364.80 3.53 0.97 $0
134 Mickey Moniak OF $0 349.60 3.44 0.98 $0
135 Joshua Palacios OF $0 240.70 3.42 1.05 $0
136 Blake Perkins OF $0 341.10 3.41 0.95 $0
137 Seth Brown 1B/OF $0 392.00 3.40 1.00 $0-$1
138 Drew Waters OF $0 268.40 3.39 1.00 $0
139 David Peralta OF $0 358.40 3.37 1.03 $0
140 Jacob Young OF $0 454.30 3.31 0.93 $0
141 Robbie Grossman OF $0 313.70 3.29 0.97 $0
142 Adam Duvall OF $0 301.00 3.29 0.95 $0
143 Trent Grisham OF $0 371.00 3.27 0.94 $0
144 Eddie Rosario OF $0 338.40 3.26 0.92 $0
145 Alex Call OF $0 284.20 3.22 0.92 $0
146 Victor Scott II OF $0 310.40 3.21 0.86 $0
147 Joey Gallo 1B/OF $0 295.10 3.16 0.94 $0
148 Mitch Haniger OF $0 328.10 3.15 0.85 $0-$1
149 Jake Meyers OF $0 391.90 3.14 0.92 $0
150 Kyle Isbel OF $0 388.30 3.14 0.95 $0
151 Tyrone Taylor OF $0 343.80 3.13 1.05 $0
152 Will Brennan OF $0 348.20 3.07 0.96 $0
153 Gavin Sheets 1B/OF $0 364.80 3.01 0.89 $0
154 Akil Baddoo OF $0 253.80 3.00 0.94 $0
155 Harrison Bader OF $0 354.70 3.00 0.93 $0
156 Jake Bauers 1B/OF $0 288.50 2.95 0.98 $0
157 Justyn-Henry Malloy OF $0 183.10 2.90 0.91 $0-$1
158 Joey Loperfido OF $0 242.10 2.89 0.83 $0-$1
159 Kevin Pillar OF $0 247.10 2.88 0.96 $0
160 DJ Stewart OF $0 180.50 2.85 1.05 $0
161 Dylan Carlson OF $0 252.50 2.83 0.87 $0
162 Manuel Margot OF $0 305.70 2.81 0.92 $0
163 Luis Matos OF $0 154.20 2.80 0.84 $0-$1
164 Johan Rojas OF $0 270.70 2.76 0.90 $0
165 Joey Wiemer OF $0 308.10 2.69 0.89 $0
166 Austin Slater OF $0 229.00 2.67 0.97 $0
167 Michael A. Taylor OF $0 289.90 2.62 0.89 $0
168 Dairon Blanco OF $0 196.20 2.61 1.27 $0
169 Dominic Canzone OF $0 154.00 2.60 0.91 $0
170 Michael Siani OF $0 209.90 1.93 0.74 $0
171 Dominic Fletcher OF $0 108.30 1.88 0.57 $0

Ottoneu: Jake’s Keep or Cut Decisions at OF

After covering difficult keep/cut decisions at the infield positions the last few weeks, the RotoGraphs Ottoneu team will turn our attention to the outfield this week (and possibly next week too). Here are five guys on my keep/cut bubble.

Michael Harris II, OF
Salary: $27
Average Salary: $18
2024 P/G: 4.55
Projected 2025 P/G: 6.02

Michael Harris’ struggles in his third big league season were all the result of the hamstring injury that cost him two months of the season, right? When you split his season pre-injury and post-injury, things don’t really line up with that narrative. Before he hit the IL, he was posting a rather disappointing .250/.295/.358 slash line, good for an 80 wRC+ with a particularly conspicuous absence of power. After he returned from his injury, he was a lot more productive at the plate, slashing .283/.318/.506 (125 wRC+) but stole just two bases through the end of the season.

Under the hood, everything looked right in line with the norms he had established for himself through the first two seasons of his career. His hard hit rate, barrel rate, xwOBA, and wOBA were all well above league average and his aggressive high contact approach at the plate remained intact. It wasn’t just simple bad luck either, though his BABIP did fall 34 points from 2023; his BABIP was nearly exactly the same before and after his hamstring injury. The only thing I can see is a batted ball mix that was a little out of whack early in the season; his groundball rate was over 53% through mid-June and his pull rate was nearly 10 points higher than what it was the year prior. Both of those metrics came back down towards his norms in August and September and his results on balls in play benefitted.

And then there’s his Steamer projection for 2025. The computer is enamoured with his potential to breakout next year and ZiPS shares in the optimism. Harris will turn 24 under a month before Opening Day and apparently his rebound during the second half of this season was enough to convince the computers that his struggles during the first half were just a mirage.

Keep or cut?

I’m keeping Harris at $27 (or I would have if I hadn’t just traded him away in that league for a $43 Corbin Carroll). Still, that feels like a ceiling for him. It assumes the projections are right and that he’s due for a significant improvement in 2025, but it doesn’t leave much room for him to produce much surplus value if that improvement comes to fruition.

Luis Robert Jr., OF
Salary: $29
Average Salary: $28
2024 P/G: 4.03
Projected 2025 P/G: 5.07

A hip injury sustained in early April sidelined Luis Robert Jr. for two months of the season and he never really recovered once he returned to the field. Between the injury, the constant trade rumors, and the historically bad team surrounding him, it was a miserable year for Robert. His strikeout rate spiked to 33.2% and his power output dipped to just a .155 ISO as he limped to a career-worst 84 wRC+.

There’s certainly some cause for concern when looking at his peripherals. His hard hit rate dipped slightly but his barrel rate fell by more than five points. That tells me that his overall quality of contact was intact but something else in his batted ball mix was leading to a lower power output. Indeed, his pull rate fell nearly 13 points, down to 34%. In the two seasons where his pull rate has been higher than 40%, Robert has posted wRC+s of 155 (43.1% pull rate) and 128 (46.8%); in his other three seasons in the majors with a pull rate under 40%, his wRC+ has been 111 or lower.

And then there’s his plate discipline issues. He’s always been an aggressive swinger, but the amount of damage he was capable of doing on contact helped him offset some of those strikeout issues. Well, he cut his overall swing rate by more than five points but his contact rate continued a two-year downward trend so the result was a lot more called strikes and a nearly five point jump in strikeout rate.

Honestly, between the lackluster season in 2024, the injury issues, and the red flags in both his batted ball and plate discipline peripherals, it’s agonizingly difficult to evaluate Robert. We know that when everything clicks and he’s firing on all cylinders, he can be a phenomenal offensive producer, but the inconsistency will kill you. His 2025 projection isn’t very rosy either.

Keep or cut?

I’m cutting at $29 and I’d cut all the way down to around $15. Unless he’s traded to a much better team environment this offseason, I’m avoiding him wherever I can.

Spencer Steer, 1B/OF
Salary: $8, $14, $18
Average Salary: $12
2024 P/G: 4.66
Projected 2025 P/G: 5.02

I really loved Spencer Steer for his multi-positional eligibility which is why I rostered him wherever I could. Now that he’s lost 2B and 3B eligibility, I’ve got to figure out how to evaluate him as an OF with a bit of flexibility at 1B. The player pool at his new position isn’t as shallow as it was at 2B or even 3B but it can be tricky to roster five reliable outfielders to fill all five of those lineup spots in Ottoneu. He’s lost a bit of value by simply going from four eligible positions down to two, but not as much as I think you’d expect.

As for his actual on-field production, 2024 was a bit of a weird year for him. Everything in his peripherals looked stable; his batted ball data was solid and his plate discipline even slightly improved. Despite all that, his wOBA fell from .355 to .316 thanks to a 58 point drop in BABIP. There’s nothing amiss with his batted ball data or his plate approach — it really seems like he was just the victim of old fashioned bad luck.

The projections don’t see his BABIP returning to his 2023 levels and nor should they; he isn’t very fast and he elevates too much of his contact to take advantage of a high line drive rate. A BABIP just below league average is a pretty good bet to make and that’s exactly where the computer pegs him.

Keep or cut?

I’m happy to keep him up to $15 or $16 I think. $18 is probably too high, especially without the positional flexibility that made him so valuable the last few years.

Nolan Jones, OF
Salary: $10
Average Salary: $9
2024 P/G: 3.16
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.97

Are you willing to pay for a breakout that’s now two years removed? That’s the central question surrounding Nolan Jones. His season in 2024 was marred by a recurring back injury and he had plenty of issues reproducing his outstanding season from ‘23 when he was on the field. His hard hit rate actually increased by three and half points but his power production cratered despite all the hard contact. It’s not hard to figure out what happened either; his groundball rate jumped almost 10 points and his pull rate fell by more than 10 points. That’s a seriously bad combination for a power hitter.

Assuming he’s healthy in 2025, it’s difficult to know what to expect from Jones. The projection essentially splits the difference between his breakout season and injury marred season. We can be pretty assured that his .401 BABIP from 2023 won’t happen again but his power gains all looked legitimate. If he can figure out how to start pulling and elevating his contact again, his home ballpark and fantastic contact quality give him a pretty high ceiling. There are a lot of “ifs” that need to go right for his 2025 season to be successful, making the risk pretty high if you opt to keep him.

Keep or cut?

I think I’m fine with keeping at $10 but no higher. That feels like a decent price to pay for the potential that he’s healthy and figures out all his batted ball issues. It’s also cheap enough that he becomes an easy cut if his 2023 breakout turns out to be just a flash in the pan.

Matt Wallner, OF
Salary: $4 (x2)
Average Salary: $6
2024 P/G: 5.36
Projected 2025 P/G: 4.90

Chad asked me to include Wallner here because I just acquired him in one of our shared leagues in exchange for Jazz Chisholm Jr. I understand the hesitation surrounding him. He’s got an extremely volatile profile full of strikeouts and tons of power. The highs will be excellent — like the 169 wRC+ he posted from July 7 through the end of the season — but the lows will likely be unplayable. To make matters more complicated, he’s likely to be platooned heavily since he’s absolutely atrocious against left-handed pitching. Thankfully, he’s on the strong side of the platoon, but a part-time player is a little more difficult to roster.

But let’s look at what he’s capable of. The 169 wRC+ over the final three months of the season was fantastic, but that came with a .410 BABIP and a 34.2% strikeout rate. What he does have going for him is outrageously good contact quality. His hard hit and barrel rates, xwOBA, and max exit velocity all sat in the top 5% in the majors. He may not make much contact, but when he does, ball go far.

Keep or cut?

I don’t want to overhype a player because the red flags in Wallner’s profile are certainly glaring, but he’s got a lot of prime Joey Gallo in him and he was an incredibly valuable player in Ottoneu for a long time. I’m happy to keep at $4 on the chance that Wallner actually does turn into the second coming of Gallo, but even if he settles in as a lesser version of Gallo, that’s still a valuable player in a format that rewards power and patience. The ceiling is a bit trickier to determine but I think I’d keep Wallner up to $6 or $7 and there’s probably a good chance he’ll go for even more at auction.