A Closer Look at 2B

We posted our 2B rankings today and I posted my commentary rankings of the position about a month ago. There are some differences between the two and I could’ve probably made even more as I really agonized over some of the slotting. It just speaks to the depth of second base. I can definitely see myself getting my middle infielder from 2B, too. Let’s take a closer look.

The Top

Jose Altuve obviously stands alone as the top dog and there’s no real need to delve too deeply into that. He’s entirely deserving on his slotting and has a very viable case for the top pick ahead of Mike Trout.

The Conundrum

One thing I always struggle with these lists is whether or not to make them a predictive list of how I think they will finish 1 to whatever at season’s end or how I’m drafting them. There is a difference. I think Jonathan Schoop will probably finish as a top-10 2B at season’s end and I ranked him seventh, but he’s nowhere near the 7th-most desirable 2B on my list. I’m completely skipping him at his average draft position (~70) in lieu of several others. I’m not entirely sure I’d take him at his 95 max pick given how much I like so many others.

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So I slotted Daniel Murphy, Schoop, and Robinson Cano at 6-7-8, but I greatly prefer my 9-10-11 of Rougned Odor, Ozzie Albies, and Chris Taylor. And it’s not just because they’re cheaper. At equal cost – let’s say around pick 91, which is their six ADPS averaged – I think I still favor the second trio. Am I being intellectually dishonest for not ranking them as such? It seems to me that most people view these kinds of rankings as a draft list.

The Studs

Let’s continue looking at the pool itself. Jose Ramirez is kind of another tier himself after Altuve as he’s usually 10-15 picks earlier than Dee Gordon and about 20 over Brian Dozier. I love Ramirez. I have zero issue with his 20 ADP or taking him anywhere in the second round of 15-teamers. If you listen to the podcast, you know I don’t really mess with rabbits like Gordon. But unlike the Schoop example, there is a situation and price where I take Gordon and I have no issue with his cost so I don’t mind slotting him fourth despite rarely if ever getting him.

Dozier started the offseason as a prime target, but as I further studied the 2B pool, he’s become less and less of a priority. Ramirez’s batting average is enough of a separator for me to take him early and fill 2B while I think I can replicate Dozier’s line later and trade his relative probability of achieving it in the process. Plus, I could feasibly move Ramirez to 3B if several of my 2B targets are made available to me.

The Thick Middle

OK, I’m realizing 2B has a glob, too. You can argue pretty vociferously for just about any order with Murphy, Schoop, Cano, Odor, Albies, Taylor, Whit Merrifield, Eduardo Nunez, Ian Kinsler, DJ LeMahieu, Marwin Gonzalez, Ian Happ, Javier Baez, Yoan Moncada, Jonathan Villar, Cesar Hernandez, and Matt Carpenter and they run 6 through 22 on my list. The difference between 6 and 22 undoubtedly feels substantial when eyeing a list in general, but I don’t think that’s the case with 2B this year. This is a prime example of why tiers are so useful.

The 2017 Sudden Studs

Here are the guys who became fantasy forces pretty much out of nowhere: Merrifield, Taylor, Gonzalez, and Scooter Gennett. Ramirez and Schoop were really solid in 2016 so while they did breakout, it wasn’t nearly as unexpected as this group. Whit Merrifield has been a remarkably tough case for me. An age-28 breakout with no real prospect pedigree up through the minors as a 9th round pick. The speed was there (27 SB per 600 PA), but his 19 HR were truly unexpected.

Yet there was nothing particularly egregious in his batted ball profile to suggest he can’t pop another double-digit total. His 9% HR/FB was well below the 14% league average. He had a flyball lean at 41%, which was 7th at the position, but not really selling out for power. The bouncy ball in the MLB no doubt played a role, so barring a major shift there, he should be good for a teens total. Even if things come close to the negative end and he puts up an A.J. Pollock 2017 year – .266, 14 HR, 20 SB, 73 R, 49 RBI – that’s around a top-90 hitter, which isn’t a bad floor at all for someone being drafted around pick 75. Merrifield could be a bust by dollar loss per Mike Podhorzer’s method from this amazing piece on last year breakouts while still not at all hurting you. Plus, there’s the upside of another great season after a top-15 finish among hitters last year. I’m kinda talking myself into some Two-Hit Whit Sh…tuff.

Taylor had a similar ascent to Merrifield, doing it two years younger with some prospect acclaim (top 10 org. guy a few years back). I’m a big Taylor fan. I already liked him after the big regular season, but that I consistently saw him taking some of the best plate appearances in the playoffs leading to more walks (11) than strikeouts (10) and plenty of production around that (.889 OPS, .254 ISO, 8 of 15 hits for extra bases). His 16% HR/FB rate and .361 BABIP definitely call the 21 HR and .288 AVG into question more than anything Merrifield did, but that’s built into the price as the two are about two rounds apart in 15-teamers.

Taylor didn’t steal as much as Merrifield, but his 81% success rate on 21 attempts has me thinking his 17 SB total could rise and offset regression elsewhere in the profile. A strong approach should keep the OBP stable, too. I don’t think he’ll necessarily have an OBP commensurate with any AVG loss as the 9% BB rate has upside of a 12%+ mark. Part of his walk rate being average vs. the plate skills is that he was raking so much in the summer that he didn’t need to walk. As the league adjusts, I think he’ll keep pace and adjust the walks upward. Despite the general findings of Mike’s piece, I’m in on these two breakouts staying strong in 2018 and being worth the gamble as even their regressed lines have a high floor.

I fully admit that my Gonzalez ranking is driven largely by his positional flexibility. Of course, the flexibility loses value if the player isn’t performing, but the projections drop him down to a Dexter Fowler-type (upper-teens homers, upper-single digit SBs, and .260s AVG) with four positions. In NFBC, you have seven reserves and no DL so having someone you can regularly move around to accommodate just about any free agent is valuable. But does it do enough to close the gap between the Marwin (120) and Fowler (246) ADPs? Probably not. Unless you like Gonzalez to beat the projections on his player page, you shouldn’t take him before about pick-160.

The best tidbit about Gennett is that he hit 20 HR with a .293/.344/.516 line after the 4-HR game. He had a damn fine season even outside of that historical achievement. His 14 HR/8 SB season in 2016 showed some skills, too, and he was a career 97 wRC+ coming into 2017. I’m not targeting Gennett or all that interested in drafting him, but the market isn’t really taxing his breakout season at his current ADP of 211. If you just average out his 2016-17 for a .278 AVG, a nice 69 R, 20 HR, 76 RBI, and 6 SB, that’s worth something after pick-200. He essentially doubled his HR/FB rate to 21%, but also has a park and league environment that suggests it’s not necessarily regressing all the way back to 11%.

The Risers

The biggest case against Merrifield and Taylor specifically is the talent available later that could easily match or out-produce them. One of these guys is going to have a massive season and a few will substantially over-achieve their draft cost. Baez (104), Albies (118), Happ (125), Moncada (131), Villar (171), and Kinsler (183) are my money group of 2B. Kinsler stands out as the elder statesman here, but he’s priced to buy. Nothing under the hood backs his .244 BABIP that tanked his average to .236 while the power, speed, and plate skills held or improved. Now he’s moving to LA to bat atop an Angels lineups with Mike Trout, his former teammate Justin Upton, Albert Pujols, and Kole Calhoun behind him.

I really think Albies cuts a Mookie Betts-like mold as I explained on the podcast so I won’t get into again here and repeat myself. Betts was going at pick 98 on average (with a high of 21) in 2015 after a flashy little debut quite similar to what we just saw from Albies.

  • Betts – (5’9, 180)
    • .316/.408/.472 MiLB slash with 12 HR and 42 SB per 600 PA
    • .291/.368/.444, 5 HR, 7 SB in 213 PA debut
  • Albies – (5’9, 160)
    • .304/.365/.424 MiLB slash with 6 HR and 35 SB per 600 PA
    • .286/.354/.456, 6 HR, 8 SB in 244 PA debut

Betts showed more pop coming up, but the league environment we’re in right now can cover the gap for Albies as he fully develops his pop. Betts also had a sharp BB% rate edge in the minors (8% v. 13%), but Albies isn’t just hacking at the dish, either. I think I said Betts 2.0 on the pod, but the Whatever 2.0 suggests better and I won’t go that far. Probably better to say Betts-lite, but I can also see Albies stealing more than Betts ever has (career-high of 26), mitigating some of the power and OBP discrepancies to deliver a similar dollar value (Betts was ~$25 in ’15). My bottom line is that Albies’ skills set a strong floor and a 15 HR/40 SB upside makes him a worthy pick-75 or later gamble to me.

I like both Cubs, but I’m probably just taking the cheaper of the two given their similarities. Happ is often cheaper, but seems to be a more advanced version of Baez when you consider that Happ essentially matched Baez in his rookie year despite being two years younger. He also has more patience and switch hits, both factors in lengthening his leash during down periods.

The MIs

This is where the depth shines through as I’d take any of these guys as my middle infielder.

  • Cesar Hernandez – Solid speed, AVG, and OBP play. If PHI plays up, he could push 100 runs.
  • Jonathan Villar – A worthy buyback after last year’s flop.
  • Matt Carpenter – He’d be much higher if I had any confidence in the health, but the position is too deep to risk him early on.
  • Josh Harrison – Boringly solid and could add to his 2B/3B flexibility.
  • Tim Beckham – The market isn’t taxing his breakthrough and I see a solid season coming.

The General Plan

Using the NFBC ADP (set to 3/1/18) as a guide, here’s a general idea of how I’ll tackle 2B.

  • Take one of the top two if available.
  • Skip the next six.
  • Attack the 9-20 group, ideally starting in round 7 at the earliest.
  • Leverage flexibility and get more than just a 2B and MI from the pool.
  • Let MI develop a bit as SS also great options.
  • Probably reserving a 2B or two depending on roster size.

I won’t have time for one of these at every position this week with my prior commitments. But I had so many extra thoughts on 2B specifically that I decided to put this together today.





Paul is the Editor of Rotographs and Content Director for OOTP Perfect Team. Follow Paul on Twitter @sporer and on Twitch at sporer.

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NicklePickersMember since 2016
8 years ago

This is really useful. Thanks for the deep dive!

bmfc1Member since 2018
8 years ago

Thank you!

Begs1429
8 years ago

No mention of Joe Panik? A fair shot to lead off in SF (at least against righties) and a real shot at 100 runs, 10 HRs, 5 or so SB and a .280 avg with Posey, Cutch, and Longo hitting behind him

Begs1429
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul Sporer

Fair enough, I’d say he just falls in with the glob anyway, but with a bit higher potential than some of the others. Keep up the good work!

MattabattacolaMember since 2026
8 years ago

Hey Paul. I have these same issues when I am making my own player evaluations , where I start to believe lower guys are better simply because I have been focusing on them as “buying” opportunities. I think if you can honestly say you would take those latter three ahead of the others at the same ADP you should rank them ahead.

It is so impossibly hard to separate the players value from their ADP as well as from the overall make-up of the picks ahead of them. Unless you have supreme confidence in your projections like Pod or Jeff, you are always going to run into these problems.

I appreciate the clarification article, it mirrors a lot of how the positional podcast’s have gone, and those are fantastic. I hope you are right about Albies, and even if you aren’t, fantasy baseball is more fun when you can find some of these picks that make you excited.

Slappytheclown
8 years ago

Can we just add Devon Travis and Dustin Pedroia to the ‘glob’ as well? And towards the end, Adames deserves a mention. There is zero appealing about 2b in Tampa right now, and SS ain’t any great shakes either.

dtpollittMember since 2016
8 years ago

Paul please keep doing what you’re doing; I find your work to be scripture.

bceagles182
8 years ago

Thanks for this, Paul. Very useful. One thing that caught my eye though — I’m not sure it’s fair to call Dee Gordon just a ‘rabbit’ at this point… Yes, he’s elite in one category but he’s been on ~ 95 run pace for four straight years, and will likely hit .290+ across 650 AB…. both of which are very strong contributions in those categories. That means he’s strong in 3/5 roto categories, and he’s terrible in the other two…. The values are different but in terms of balance, it’s a bit like fitting an average peak Adam Dunn season into your roster (elite HR total, good RBI and run contributions, miserable in SB and AVG)… Obviously, Gordon’s contributions in SB are far more valuable than Dunn’s in HR (because of how the distribution curve for SBs is shaped), but in terms of structuring your team around a player, it’s similar in the sense that you need to account for huge weaknesses in two categories. Or for a more modern example, a solid Chris Davis year.

Boy Wonder
8 years ago

Where does Jason Kipnis fit into these tiers? Spring Training numbers need to be taken with grains of salt but he seems to be healthy again. Still only 30 and on the still potent Indians lineup probably batting higher in the lineup. You guys buying a Kipnis bounce back? Maybe in the same kind of conversation as a Villar bounce back? Thanks so much for all your great work here!

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
8 years ago

Do you think Ketel could be in the thick middle, or below it?

RonnieDobbs
8 years ago

As soon as I started seeing references to the glob I began to wonder if it is real. Wouldn’t it be ironic if our “advanced analysis” led us to a larger middle tier. To be clear, I think that is what is occurring as opposed to a real mix of interchangeable talent. Identifying the top and bottom is easy and can be done using almost any arbitrary metric. If we are not able to stratify the middle, then that probably deserves a lot of attention. Personally, I don’t know how Murphy & Schoop belong in the same sentence as Villar and Cesar Hernandez. I would imagine that the glob is where leagues will be won and lost.

ChrisMember since 2017
8 years ago

Seemed odd to be getting so far down in my 2B draft rankings and still showing positive $ values. 2B is so well supplied this year that it prohibited me from keeping multiple 2Bs for fear that I would miss on the inevitable in-draft discount sure to result from such a preponderance of second sackers.

RainmakerMember since 2016
8 years ago

How is there not more excitement around Ian Happ? It feels like folks are punishing him for high K% in his first season in the bigs — this is a guy who’s K% never got above 23% in MiLB, yet we’re not giving him any credit for improvement in his sophomore season? Or is it that folks are concerned about playing time? I honestly can’t figure it out…

MLBtoPDX#2024
8 years ago

Not to much of a difference, and if you’re an avid prospect hound this is essentially almost everyone’s Tier list. I simply don’t understand why Writers say “ I would honestly draft these last 3 ahead of the middle to top tier players”, but yet don’t rank em ahead of the actual players they should be legitimately ranked ahead. Is it an industry thing? Afraid to be Bold? This is Fangraphs a main site for Baseball Analytics, So you would think the writers would Use what the Numbers say and not just the Industry. I believe you’ve written this 3rd piece about Keystones is because your in a conundrum and you can’t just get over the fact that maybe, just maybe a little name is Honestly worth more than the Big. Every writer on the earth is snubbing Hernandez and its mind blowing. Schoop had one good year after a very terrible year prior but yet people are so “High” on em it’s ridiculous. I appreciate your work, but if your going to say one thing that contradicts your rankings at the end of the Article, than maybe those ranking should be properly fixed instead if insinuating what’s True and Embellishing what’s not. Numbers don’t lie Hernandez missed 5 weeks last season but was still 10th best 2nd Baseman. With his budding Team and offense he’s a lock for 90+Runs, 20 Steals, 330OPB, and 290-300Avg not to mention 70+RBIs. Enough is Enough start calling it like it is not what the Names are