3 Potentially Overvalued Hitters in 2014 Drafts
We still haven’t even completed the 2013 season yet, but there’s no doubt that some owners are already looking toward 2014 (or, this other sport called “football”). Whether your team has been torpedoed by injuries to Matt Kemp, Albert Pujols and Derek Jeter or you have considered jumping out your window as the owner of BJ Upton and Starlin Castro, it is never too early to start preparing for next year. Every season, there are breakouts and disappointments, some more surprising than others. Unfortunately, human nature is prone to recency bias, the tendency to weight recent events more than earlier events. This causes players coming off breakout/career years to typically become overvalued in drafts the following season. With that in mind, here are three hitters who will potentially be overvalued in your draft next year.
Now with a second straight 30 home run, double digit stolen base season, it isn’t outrageous to think that Jones may very well nudge himself into the first round next year in many drafts. However, I think that would be a serious mistake. The problem is that his skills are overly soft. They simply don’t make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside and confident that his true talent level is the same as his current performance.
Let’s start with his walk and strikeout rates. He loathes the walk. He’s walked just 20 times all season, for a minuscule 3.3% BB%. For those wondering, that ranks fourth worst in all of baseball among qualified batters. You have to wonder why pitchers would ever throw him a strike. Will their adjustment come? His strikeout rate is usually marginally better than the league average, but I’m pretty miffed at how he has accomplished that. Both his SwStk% and Contact% rank in the bottom 25, suggesting much worse strikeout rates than he has posted. Since he’s always done this, you can’t assume the strikeout rate will suddenly match the poor SwStk%, but it adds risk that shouldn’t be present in a first rounder. Getting back to his lack of free passes, it kills his on base percentage and does have the potential to cap his runs scored total. That hasn’t been an issue these last two years, but it’s not often a hitter with an OBP around .330 scores 100 runs.
Last, he’s almost certainly at his power peak. He simply hits too many ground balls to be a major home run source and he requires a lofty 20% HR/FB ratio just to hit his current 30 homer mark. There are just too many question marks here to confidently grab him in the first round, even if it’s late in the round. I would be okay at the back-end of the second round, but most comfortable early in the third. Any earlier than that and you’re paying far too much, with more downside than upside, which is not what you want in such an early pick.
Gomez is another outfielder that brings that exciting mix of power and speed that fantasy owners go gaga over. The funny thing about Gomez is that he is essentially replicating exactly what he did last year, yet he’s going to zoom up the ADP charts compared to last season. Remember what I noted about Jones’ strikeout rate above and how his Contact% and SwStk% didn’t match it? Well, Gomez’s advanced metrics are nearly identical to Jones’, yet Gomez has struck out nearly 25% of the time, a significantly higher rate than Jones.
But enough finding new marks against Jones, since this section is supposed to detail why Gomez may be overvalued. Although Gomez’s BABIP has declined precipitously from its peak earlier in the season, there still may be more room to fall. His current .342 is a career best, and unless he has changed his swing dramatically, the concern is that next year he’ll revert back to the guy who hits fewer line drives than average and too many pop-ups. If that happens, his batting average is going to hurt fantasy teams once again.
On the positive side, his power and speed seem to be for real. Unfortunately, he’s unlikely to be a real asset in either the runs scored or runs batted in categories, as his OBP is going to be mediocre and it’s questionable where he’s going to bat in the order next year. So really, Gomez provides positive value in two categories, while producing essentially neutral value in the other three. Can you really afford to only boost two categories with such an early pick?
In his first full season, Machado got off to a scorching start this year, thanks primarily to a .361 BABIP that had no chance of lasting. While his second half has seen his average drop and stolen base output disappear, he has hit for more power. His solid overall season line, combined with his age (21) and pedigree as the third overall pick when he was drafted, will likely cause many owners to gush at his prospects next season. But, he looks rather underwhelming to me.
Most will point to his second half power surge and his 47 doubles as evidence that he’ll hit 20-25 homers next year. While this may indeed happen, it wouldn’t be prudent to actually pay for those stats. Then he’d have to enjoy a true breakout year just to break even. That’s not how you win your fantasy baseball league! He has also been a pretty poor base stealer this season and had never really been a speed demon in the minors. I couldn’t confidently pencil him in for more than high single digit steals, though at third base, that does have value.
There are other red flags. He has also graduated from the Adam Jones School of Plate Discipline, having posted a hideous 26 walks to 96 strikeouts. Oddly, he took a walk at respectable rates in the minors, so you wonder where his patience went. Last, it may be difficult for him to sustain even a .329 BABIP next year if he continues to post such a high rate of pop-ups. He never posted BABIP marks above .300 in the minors, and usually hitters don’t suddenly gain BABIP skills at the Major League level. It’s hard for me to speculate on a fair round without having run an official projection and dollar value, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I considered him not worthy of a top 10 round pick.
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Some counterpoints for Gomez (i fully agree w/ the other two):
-He should continue hitting high in the order–they have really no other good options
-I had heard he changed his swing in the 2nd half of last season
-His BABIP should stay high due to good speed. Probably a .260 avg is his floor, not bad.
-His walk % is trending up, if slightly. He’s still young, and could improve plate discipline.
-Braun coming back next yr gives him more lineup protection, and maybe they also add another good bat in FA.
“lineup protection”
I think the bigger point with Gomez is that going into this year, he had no credibility in repeating those numbers from last year. And without Braun, Hart, or Aramis Ramirez in the lineup for most of this year, his overall stat line was certainly affected. Everybody forgets they lost Corey Hart for the year! I’m sure I won’t pay big $ for him, but I definitely trust him more next year than I did going into this year!
I think it is fair to say “it’s questionable where he’s going to bat in the order next year”. You would think Aoki Segura Braun Ramirez are penciled in at 1-4. Will RRR really put the speedy Gomez at 5, or is that Lucroy’s spot? Then Gomez is hitting 6th, if they bring back Hart on a one year deal or some other power hitting 1B he could concievably bat 7th.
While I agree with your assessment of Machado in general, I think his plate discipline is often misunderstood or misrepresented. If you look at his BB% (4.2%), it seems like he is overly aggressive, but if you actually look at his plate discipline stats that isn’t borne out – especially not compared with Adam Jones. Machado’s O-Swing% (30%) and Z-Swing% (64.9%) are almost right on league average for the year. His approach hasn’t translated into walks (maybe because of above average contact rates?), but I think that it is misleading to suggest that he has poor plate discipline.
Great stuff. I’m an O’s fan so I’m trying to take my homer hat off for a minute. I have Machado in my keeper at 10th. Is it crazy to consider throwing him back and keeping a later round guy? I think if the power does come we’re looking 3+yrs down the line making him only an elite 3B in 2 categories, hits and runs. Power, speed and OBP are all rather pedestrian for the position.
Depends on how long you can keep a player for in that same round. At the very least, you should look to trade him because I can guarantee several of your league mates would jump at the opportunity to own him as a 10th rounder.
I don’t think anyone sees Jones as a first rounder. His poor plate discipline is too widely known. His counting stats are better than in 2013, but not by enough to hype him into the first round. I’ll be looking for him about the 30th pick or so.
It’s obviously very difficult to speculate where fantasy owners are going to draft a player, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he made his way toward the end of the 1st in many. I agree that pick 30 is a good spot to look for him, but I’d be shocked if he lasted that long.
He does have a track record of putting up solid numbers. not to say he is elite, but a guy jumping up from 3rd-5th round production to 1st or 2nd is not that huge. So he is really a .280/20homer/10steal downside player with a repeat of this season as an upside. That sounds like a 2nd rounder to me. I could see lots of people taking him in the 8th-16th pick range. SO he is a turn around pick. I would be lookin in the mid to late 2nd (16th-30th), but i tend to go position scarcity and find OF late.
In what kind of league would a guy’s season be messed up because Jeter was injured?
They play on Yahoo.
No, even on Yahoo that is a bit silly.
I’m thinking $15 for Machado is more than I’d want to keep him for, but that at this price others might be interested in a trade. Thoughts?
Really depends on league format. I’d need more details to determine if that’s a good price or not.
As it relates to Jones, i’ve been saying the same thing for Kinsler, but in the past he had an acceptable BB% while Jones has and does not, however, Jones consistently puts the ball in play and goes .285+ doing it. He does hit the ball on the ground alot but he has a career .274 BABIP and AVG off his ground balls: http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=6368&position=OF&season=0#standard…so that won’t kill his avg.
So long as he has a rational babip between .304 and .320, he should go .285-.290 again and he’ll only be 28 and actually has a surrounding cast to ensure 90/90. I think he is a top 10’er next year b/c of the lack of health associated with guys like Cargo, Tulo, Hanley, Kemp. I have him ranked as my 5th best hitter so long as he has remotely the same amount of runs produced:
Mike Trout
Miguel Cabrera
Paul Goldschmidt
Andrew McCutchen
Adam Jones
Carlos Gonzalez
Edwin Encarnacion
Chris Davis
Robinson Cano
Joey Votto
Bryce Harper
Ryan Braun
Freddie Freeman
Prince Fielder
Hanley Ramirez
Adrian Beltre
Jean Segura
Evan Longoria
Jason Kipnis
Buster Posey
Ian Desmond
David Wright
Troy Tulowitzki
Giancarlo Stanton
Justin Upton
Manny Machado
Matt Kemp
Jose Reyes
Dustin Pedroia
I think this is what Podz is talking about though.
There are at least 12 people on that list that could and should outproduce Jones. Not by a large margin, but still.
I’m not going to make a detailed critique of these rankings, but ummm, Freddie Freeman 13th among all hitters? And Adam Jones 5th, ahead of CarGo. Not so sure about that!
Yeah its based on pa/ab totals. I’d prefer tulow,wright,hanley,cargo…maybe even Kemp over Jones, but jones consistently plays 158+ games. Those projections are based on their projected ’14 5×5 outputs.. ill make that clear when I post the rankings officially. I’m drafting Hanley/tulo over Jones for sure but if they wind up playing in 135-140 games they won’t output the same value…l
I like Roto’s point about the health of Jones vs. the health of other late first round-early second round players.
While I wouldn’t spend a first round pick on him, I’d be comfortable using, say, a 15th-25th overall pick.
Jones is going into his peak years, hits in a good lineup, and has been healthy. I would gladly take my chances with him regressing rather than say Kemp’s chance of being injured.
and yes – league format – he’s easily out of round 1 …maybe 2 in OBP leagues
Interesting read. Thanks. I’ve also watched your commentary on youtube. I’m just now getting into saber-metrics and look forward to learning more and becoming conversational in it. I see you are not high on Machado due in part to his peripherals. Is it possible that a high profile ESPN analysts’ 2o14 keeper list placing Machado at #6 (overall, not just for 3B) might also look at his metrics or do you think this is just a “gut feeling”? I know your time is valuable, but if you have a moment, would you help me with my 12 team yahoo roto 7(H&OPS)X6(QS). We get 6 keepers with no penalty. McCutchen and E5 seem like no brainers. Then I have: Bruce,Machado,Gyorko,Cole,Posey,Carpenter(my team leader in 3 cats, last year),Bogaerts,Avisail Garcia, Grilli, Minor….so I’d need 4 out of those 10. My inclination is that Bruce might be borderline no brainer. Also, being a Pirates fan, I’d love to keep Cole, so maybe that boils things down to picking two to join Cutch, E5, Bruce, and Cole? Thanks!
Keeper rankings are going to be different than rankings for just this year.
Agree on Bruce. I’m guessing your league plays just one catcher, which is why Posey isn’t a no brainer. I don’t play one catcher leagues, so not sure if his value falls enough to not be worthy of keeping. Not a fan of Carpenter, but he benefits from the extra 2 cats, so he’s the 4th.
If you use an MI spot, I think I’d go Gyorko, though how the extra cats affect his value, I’m not sure. Then I’d prob go with Cole for the last spot as well.
Thanks!
OK, didn’t we avoid him last year for all the same reasons?
Adam Jones, that is. Persona non grata, and the dumb guy, who doesn’t know any better, picks him up,and banks two years in a row. Now, how exactly are we too smart to take this guy?
My first reaction is you warned us about Adam Jones last year. You waraned us about Carlos Gomez last year. Not you personally, but those in the know were screaming about Jone’s FB/GB last year. We were warned about Gomez inability to make contact – so what happened? And my point is the numbers do lie. The most important numbers for Gomez are 41 hrs and 78 stolen bases the past two years. No doubt his batting average won’t be duplicated from last year, but you’re not buying batting average with Gomez. I vowed last year I wouldn’t touch either Jones and Gomez last year, and watched them perform circles around my “safer, wiser” picks. The point is, it is a team game with 14 or 15 slots. So, you’re worried about Gomez batting avg? Then make sure to buy or draft an extra batting average guy to make up for his .260 ways.