2017 Ottoneu FGpts Rankings: SP/RP

We’ve been rolling through our ottoneu FanGraphs points league rankings. This year the rankings will include values from myself, Justin Vibber, and Chad Young. We are presenting our individual dollar values, the average of all three individuals, plus the ranking of that average. In addition the tables below include Ottoneu eligibility (5 games started/10 games played in the prior year). Players are ranked at their most valuable position, and the hierarchy we are using is C/SS/2B/3B/OF/1B (with 3B and OF being a coin toss in terms of replacement level, we chose to include 3B/OF eligibles at 3B).

Prior Rankings: C/1B/3B, 2B/SS, OF

Key:
Split – Difference from highest to lowest $ value
Otto.– Average price across Ottoneu FGpts leagues
AVG. – Average $ value from the four of us
(+/-) – Difference between Ottoneu average price and our average $ value

Ottone FGpts – SP
Rnk Name Team Elig Justin Joe Chad Split Otto AVG (+/-)
1 Clayton Kershaw Dodgers SP $71 $68 $68 $3 $62 $69 $7
2 Noah Syndergaard Mets SP $49 $46 $46 $3 $26 $47 $21
3 Max Scherzer Nationals SP $48 $46 $47 $2 $42 $47 $5
4 Madison Bumgarner Giants SP $40 $38 $42 $4 $41 $40 ($1)
5 Chris Sale Red Sox SP $37 $36 $41 $5 $42 $38 ($4)
6 Stephen Strasburg Nationals SP $38 $36 $36 $2 $37 $37 ($1)
7 Corey Kluber Indians SP $34 $36 $36 $2 $32 $35 $3
8 Jake Arrieta Cubs SP $31 $31 $31 $0 $28 $31 $3
9 Chris Archer Rays SP $32 $30 $31 $2 $23 $31 $8
10 Jon Lester Cubs SP $30 $29 $30 $1 $27 $30 $3
11 Johnny Cueto Giants SP $28 $29 $30 $2 $27 $29 $2
12 Carlos Carrasco Indians SP $28 $27 $31 $4 $18 $29 $11
13 Yu Darvish Rangers SP $29 $28 $27 $2 $22 $28 $6
14 David Price Red Sox SP $26 $25 $25 $1 $38 $25 ($13)
15 Lance McCullers Astros SP $26 $24 $26 $2 $9 $25 $16
16 Rich Hill Dodgers SP $27 $25 $23 $4 $7 $25 $18
17 Jacob deGrom Mets SP $24 $22 $24 $2 $21 $23 $2
18 Justin Verlander Tigers SP $22 $24 $24 $2 $16 $23 $8
19 Gerrit Cole Pirates SP $19 $24 $20 $5 $25 $21 ($4)
20 Carlos Martinez Cardinals SP $19 $22 $20 $3 $15 $20 $5
21 Robbie Ray Diamondbacks SP $23 $18 $20 $5 $5 $20 $15
22 Kyle Hendricks Cubs SP $19 $18 $20 $2 $11 $19 $8
23 Steven Matz Mets SP $21 $17 $19 $4 $10 $19 $9
24 Michael Pineda Yankees SP $21 $13 $18 $8 $10 $18 $7
25 Danny Salazar Indians SP $17 $15 $20 $5 $14 $17 $3
26 Jameson Taillon Pirates SP $18 $19 $13 $6 $6 $17 $10
26 Dallas Keuchel Astros SP $17 $15 $18 $3 $18 $17 ($1)
28 Kenta Maeda Dodgers SP $17 $16 $17 $1 $13 $17 $4
29 James Paxton Mariners SP $17 $20 $12 $8 $7 $16 $10
30 Aaron Nola Phillies SP $19 $14 $15 $5 $8 $16 $8
31 Julio Urias Dodgers SP $16 $17 $12 $5 $9 $15 $7
32 Jeff Samardzija Giants SP $15 $12 $16 $4 $14 $14 $0
33 Gio Gonzalez Nationals SP $15 $13 $14 $2 $14 $14 ($0)
34 Danny Duffy Royals SP $11 $17 $13 $6 $7 $14 $7
35 Zack Greinke Diamondbacks SP $14 $16 $11 $5 $32 $14 ($18)
36 Jose Quintana White Sox SP $12 $14 $12 $2 $15 $13 ($2)
37 Matt Harvey Mets SP $15 $12 $11 $4 $23 $13 ($10)
38 Garrett Richards Angels SP $14 $8 $14 $6 $11 $12 $1
39 Cole Hamels Rangers SP $13 $13 $9 $4 $25 $12 ($14)
40 Tyler Skaggs Angels SP $14 $9 $12 $5 $5 $12 $6
41 Vince Velasquez Phillies SP $12 $8 $13 $5 $8 $11 $4
42 Jose De Leon Dodgers SP $12 $6 $15 $9 $6 $11 $5
43 Blake Snell Rays SP $14 $8 $11 $6 $7 $11 $4
44 Aaron Sanchez Blue Jays SP $4 $16 $12 $12 $10 $11 $1
45 Matt Moore Giants SP $12 $9 $11 $3 $7 $11 $4
45 Tyler Glasnow Pirates SP $11 $8 $13 $5 $7 $11 $4
47 John Lackey Cubs SP $10 $9 $11 $2 $9 $10 $1
48 Masahiro Tanaka Yankees SP $8 $11 $10 $3 $20 $10 ($10)
49 Matt Shoemaker Angels SP $9 $8 $11 $3 $6 $9 $3
50 Felix Hernandez Mariners SP $9 $8 $11 $3 $31 $9 ($22)
51 Carlos Rodon White Sox SP $10 $8 $9 $2 $11 $9 ($2)
52 Rick Porcello Red Sox SP $8 $9 $10 $2 $8 $9 $1
53 Marcus Stroman Blue Jays SP $9 $7 $9 $2 $12 $8 ($4)
54 Jon Gray Rockies SP $9 $10 $6 $4 $7 $8 $2
55 Jaime Garcia Braves SP $11 $6 $7 $5 $7 $8 $1
55 Joe Ross Nationals SP $8 $6 $10 $4 $7 $8 $1
57 Julio Teheran Braves SP $8 $7 $8 $1 $14 $8 ($6)
58 Jharel Cotton Athletics SP $6 $11 $6 $5 $5 $8 $2
59 Sean Manaea Athletics SP $5 $6 $6 $1 $5 $6 $1
60 Collin McHugh Astros SP $6 $4 $6 $2 $9 $5 ($3)
61 Michael Fulmer Tigers SP $5 $5 $5 $0 $7 $5 ($2)
62 Josh Hader Brewers SP $5 $6 $4 $2 $3 $5 $2
62 Adam Wainwright Cardinals SP $5 $5 $5 $0 $16 $5 ($11)
64 Ivan Nova Pirates SP $4 $6 $5 $2 $5 $5 $0
65 Francisco Liriano Blue Jays SP $6 $6 $2 $4 $10 $5 ($5)
66 Sonny Gray Athletics SP $6 $4 $4 $2 $18 $5 ($13)
67 Tyson Ross Rangers SP $6 $5 $3 $3 $14 $5 ($10)
68 Scott Kazmir Dodgers SP $8 $0 $5 $8 $6 $4 ($2)
69 Jake Odorizzi Rays SP $4 $3 $6 $3 $10 $4 ($5)
70 Lance Lynn Cardinals SP $4 $4 $4 $0 $5 $4 ($1)
70 Kevin Gausman Orioles SP $3 $4 $5 $2 $9 $4 ($5)
72 Wei-Yin Chen Marlins SP $6 $2 $4 $4 $6 $4 ($2)
73 Drew Pomeranz Red Sox SP $2 $3 $6 $4 $5 $4 ($1)
74 Drew Smyly Rays SP $3 $3 $4 $1 $9 $3 ($6)
75 Taijuan Walker Diamondbacks SP $4 $3 $2 $2 $12 $3 ($9)
76 Archie Bradley Diamondbacks SP $4 $2 $3 $2 $5 $3 ($2)
77 Alex Reyes Cardinals SP $1 $8 $0 $8 $7 $3 ($4)
78 Andrew Triggs Athletics SP $0 $4 $4 $4 $3 $3 ($0)
79 Brandon McCarthy Dodgers SP $5 $3 $0 $5 $5 $3 ($2)
80 Alex Meyer Angels SP $1 $0 $6 $6 $4 $2 ($1)
81 Luke Weaver Cardinals SP $3 $2 $2 $1 $4 $2 ($2)
82 Alex Cobb Rays SP $2 $3 $2 $2 $9 $2 ($6)
83 Luis Severino Yankees SP $1 $2 $3 $2 $7 $2 ($5)
83 Trevor May Twins SP $0 $1 $5 $5 $5 $2 ($3)
85 Lucas Giolito White Sox SP $0 $5 $0 $5 $8 $2 ($7)
85 Daniel Norris Tigers SP $1 $4 $0 $4 $6 $2 ($4)
86 Robert Gsellman Mets SP $0 $7 $0 $7 $3 $2 ($1)
87 Hyun-Jin Ryu Dodgers SP $4 $0 $0 $4 $7 $1 ($6)
88 Dylan Bundy Orioles SP $0 $4 $0 $4 $6 $1 ($4)
88 Michael Kopech White Sox SP $0 $4 $0 $4 $3 $1 ($2)
88 Frances Martes Astros SP $0 $4 $0 $4 $3 $1 ($2)
88 Tyler Anderson Rockies SP $1 $3 $0 $3 $4 $1 ($3)
88 Mike Montgomery Cubs SP $1 $1 $2 $1 $4 $1 ($2)
88 Jerad Eickhoff Phillies SP $1 $1 $2 $1 $6 $1 ($4)
88 Zach Davies Brewers SP $1 $1 $2 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
95 Alex Wood Dodgers SP $1 $2 $0 $2 $6 $1 ($5)
95 Nick Tropeano Angels SP $2 $1 $0 $2 $3 $1 ($2)
97 Shelby Miller Diamondbacks SP $0 $3 $0 $3 $12 $1 ($11)
97 Brent Honeywell Rays SP $0 $3 $0 $3 $3 $1 ($2)
97 Anthony DeSclafani Reds SP $1 $1 $1 $0 $7 $1 ($6)
97 Adam Conley Marlins SP $1 $1 $1 $0 $4 $1 ($3)
97 Joe Musgrove Astros SP $1 $1 $1 $0 $5 $1 ($4)
102 Anderson Espinoza Padres SP $0 $2 $0 $2 $3 $1 ($3)
102 Reynaldo Lopez White Sox SP $0 $2 $0 $2 $5 $1 ($4)
102 Mitch Keller Pirates SP $0 $2 $0 $2 $2 $1 ($2)
102 Yadier Alvarez Dodgers SP $0 $2 $0 $2 $3 $1 ($3)
102 Nate Karns Royals SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 ($4)
102 Tanner Roark Nationals SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $6 $1 ($5)
102 Edinson Volquez Marlins SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $6 $1 ($5)
102 Mike Foltynewicz Braves SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 ($4)
102 Jose Berrios Twins SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 ($5)
102 Cody Reed Reds SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
102 Steven Brault Pirates SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $3 $1 ($2)
102 Brett Anderson Cubs SP $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 ($3)
102 Michael Wacha Cardinals SP $0 $1 $1 $1 $13 $1 ($12)
102 Hisashi Iwakuma Mariners SP $0 $2 $0 $2 $8 $1 ($8)
116 Charlie Morton Astros SP $2 $0 $0 $2 $0 $1 $1
117 J.A. Happ Blue Jays SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($4)
117 Chris Tillman Orioles SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($5)
117 Brandon Finnegan Reds SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($5)
117 Kyle Gibson Twins SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 ($5)
117 Eduardo Rodriguez Red Sox SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $6 $0 ($6)
117 Jason Groome Red Sox SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $3 $0 ($3)
117 Jhoulys Chacin 0 SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($3)
117 Trevor Bauer Indians SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $7 $0 ($7)
117 Homer Bailey Reds SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $3 $0 ($3)
117 Aaron Brooks Cubs SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
117 Andrew Heaney Angels SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $6 $0 ($6)
117 Jaime Schultz Rays SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $2 $0 ($2)
117 Anthony Banda Diamondbacks SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
117 Robbie Erlin Padres SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
117 Nick Kingham Pirates SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $3 $0 ($3)
117 Kyle Zimmer Royals SP $1 $0 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($4)
117 Trevor Cahill SP $0 $0 $1 $1 $4 $0 ($4)
117 Junior Guerra Brewers SP $0 $1 $0 $1 $4 $0 ($4)
Total # 112 120 90
Total $ $1,286 $1,263 $1,249

Thoughts:

  • We all spent roughly the same amount on SP as a whole. However, our range of players ranked varies by 30.
  • The top tier appears smaller than the past (maybe it’s just my recollection.) You have Kershaw, then a huge gap, which should be expected. After him you’re looking at Thor and Scherzer as the next two. Then a tier of 4: Bumgarner, Sale, Strasburg, Kluber. After those 4, you could make an argument against zero $30 SP.
  • Our most divisive player is Aaron Sanchez, with a $12 split between myself and Justin. I know Justin is heavily weighted in projections, which are not kind to Sanchez, where I tend to believe more heavily in his past performance.
  • I have included my prospect rankings, those ranks are not included  in Justin or Chad’s values, and is why I have ranked more SP than either of them.
  • David Price is ranked as if no injury occurred. Adjust accordingly.
Ottone FGpts – RP
Rnk Name Team Elig Justin Joe Chad Split Otto. AVG. (+/-)
1 Kenley Jansen Dodgers RP $24 $24 $30 $6 $20 $26 $6
2 Aroldis Chapman Yankees RP $24 $24 $28 $4 $22 $25 $4
3 Andrew Miller Indians RP $19 $22 $22 $3 $13 $21 $8
4 Zach Britton Orioles RP $17 $22 $21 $5 $12 $20 $8
5 Edwin Diaz Mariners RP $17 $17 $24 $7 $6 $19 $14
6 Craig Kimbrel Red Sox RP $17 $17 $21 $4 $22 $18 -$3
7 Wade Davis Cubs RP $16 $16 $22 $6 $12 $18 $7
8 Ken Giles Astros RP $15 $16 $20 $5 $10 $17 $7
9 Seung Hwan Oh Cardinals RP $14 $17 $19 $5 $6 $17 $11
10 Dellin Betances Yankees RP $16 $18 $14 $4 $14 $16 $2
11 Mark Melancon Giants RP $16 $12 $19 $7 $12 $16 $3
12 Kelvin Herrera Royals RP $12 $11 $16 $5 $7 $13 $6
13 Shawn Kelley Nationals RP $13 $8 $18 $10 $5 $13 $8
14 Roberto Osuna Blue Jays RP $11 $11 $15 $4 $8 $12 $5
15 Jeurys Familia Mets RP $11 $9 $14 $5 $9 $11 $3
16 Alex Colome Rays RP $9 $10 $14 $5 $5 $11 $6
17 David Robertson White Sox RP $10 $9 $14 $5 $14 $11 -$3
18 Cam Bedrosian Angels RP $10 $9 $13 $4 $5 $11 $6
19 Cody Allen Indians RP $7 $10 $11 $4 $11 $9 -$2
19 Tony Watson Pirates RP $8 $7 $13 $6 $7 $9 $2
21 A.J. Ramos Marlins RP $7 $6 $13 $7 $7 $9 $2
23 Grant Dayton Dodgers RP $7 $7 $8 $1 $4 $7 $3
22 Raisel Iglesias Reds RP $6 $6 $10 $4 $7 $7 $0
24 Kyle Barraclough Marlins RP $6 $6 $9 $3 $4 $7 $3
25 Carter Capps Padres RP $8 $8 $5 $3 $5 $7 $2
26 Brandon Maurer Padres RP $6 $6 $9 $3 $4 $7 $3
27 Greg Holland Rockies RP $7 $5 $9 $4 $4 $7 $3
28 Sam Dyson Rangers RP $6 $6 $8 $2 $5 $7 $2
29 Addison Reed Mets RP $4 $10 $6 $6 $5 $7 $2
30 Arodys Vizcaino Braves RP $5 $5 $9 $4 $6 $7 $0
31 Francisco Rodriguez Tigers RP $5 $6 $8 $3 $8 $6 -$1
32 Brett Cecil Cardinals RP $5 $6 $7 $2 $5 $6 $2
33 Neftali Feliz Brewers RP $5 $5 $6 $1 $4 $5 $2
34 Koji Uehara Cubs RP $5 $4 $6 $2 $5 $5 $1
35 Fernando Rodney Diamondbacks RP $6 $2 $7 $5 $4 $5 $1
36 Nate Jones White Sox RP $5 $8 $2 $6 $4 $5 $1
36 Sean Doolittle Athletics RP $5 $4 $6 $2 $7 $5 -$2
38 Will Smith Giants RP $5 $5 $4 $1 $5 $5 -$1
39 Hector Rondon Cubs RP $4 $3 $6 $3 $9 $4 -$5
40 Felipe Rivero Pirates RP $3 $5 $3 $2 $4 $4 $0
41 Hunter Strickland Giants RP $4 $3 $4 $1 $6 $4 -$2
41 Ryan Madson Athletics RP $2 $3 $6 $4 $5 $4 -$1
43 Hector Neris Phillies RP $1 $7 $2 $6 $5 $3 -$1
44 David Phelps Marlins RP $4 $4 $1 $3 $4 $3 -$1
45 Brad Hand Padres RP $1 $4 $3 $3 $3 $3 $0
46 Pedro Strop Cubs RP $3 $2 $3 $1 $6 $3 -$3
47 Carl Edwards Jr. Cubs RP $3 $3 $2 $1 $5 $3 -$2
48 Josh Smoker Mets RP $2 $4 $2 $2 $0 $3 $3
49 Matt Strahm Royals RP $4 $4 $0 $4 $4 $3 -$2
50 Matt Bush Rangers RP $2 $4 $1 $3 $4 $2 -$1
51 Adam Ottavino Rockies RP $2 $3 $2 $1 $4 $2 -$2
52 Blake Treinen Nationals RP $1 $4 $1 $3 $3 $2 -$1
52 Jim Johnson Braves RP $1 $1 $4 $3 $4 $2 -$2
54 James Hoyt Astros RP $2 $4 $0 $4 $3 $2 -$1
55 Luke Gregerson Astros RP $2 $2 $2 $0 $6 $2 -$4
55 Pedro Baez Dodgers RP $2 $1 $3 $2 $3 $2 -$1
57 Corey Knebel Brewers RP $2 $2 $2 $1 $4 $2 -$2
58 Trevor Rosenthal Cardinals RP $2 $2 $1 $1 $13 $2 -$11
59 Drew Storen Reds RP $1 $1 $3 $2 $7 $2 -$5
60 Matt Andriese Rays RP $2 $1 $1 $1 $4 $1 -$3
60 Derek Law Giants RP $1 $1 $2 $1 $3 $1 -$2
62 Joe Kelly Red Sox RP $1 $1 $1 $0 $3 $1 -$2
63 Koda Glover Nationals RP $0 $3 $0 $3 $0 $1 $1
63 Joe Jimenez Tigers RP $0 $3 $0 $3 $3 $1 -$2
63 Zach Burdi White Sox RP $0 $3 $0 $3 $3 $1 -$2
63 Josh Fields Dodgers RP $1 $1 $1 $0 $4 $1 -$3
63 Mychal Givens Orioles RP $1 $1 $1 $0 $4 $1 -$3
63 Joaquin Benoit Phillies RP $0 $0 $3 $3 $0 $1 $1
69 Zack Wheeler Mets RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $7 $1 -$7
69 Juan Nicasio Pirates RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 -$3
69 Michael Feliz Astros RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $4 $1 -$3
69 Chaz Roe Braves RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $0 $1 $1
69 Keone Kela Rangers RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 -$4
69 Kevin Siegrist Cardinals RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 -$5
69 Steve Cishek Mariners RP $1 $1 $0 $1 $5 $1 -$4
69 Will Harris Astros RP $0 $1 $1 $1 $4 $1 -$3
69 Liam Hendriks Athletics RP $0 $1 $1 $1 $0 $1 $1
69 Sammy Solis Nationals RP $0 $0 $2 $2 $3 $1 -$2
79 Christopher Devenski Astros RP $0 $1 $0 $1 $3 $0 -$3
79 Darren O’Day Orioles RP $0 $1 $0 $1 $5 $0 -$5
79 Joe Blanton Nationals RP $0 $1 $0 $1 $3 $0 -$3
79 Thyago Vieira Mariners RP $0 $1 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
79 Josh Ravin Dodgers RP $1 $0 $0 $1 $0 $0 $0
Total # 72 80 66
Total $ $450 $487 $564

Thoughts:

  • Chad’s rankings appear to be much higher in average value than either Justin’s or mine, as he spends $80-$110 more on RP than either of us, while ranking 5-15 less players.
  • Our most divisive player is Shawn Kelly. I am the low man, as I believe the Nationals will make a move to acquire a closer. However, if they do not, then Justin and Chad will have a more accurate ranking.
  • I have ranked several rookie eligible players that are unranked by Justin or Chad.





Joe works at a consulting firm in Pittsburgh. When he isn't working or studying for actuarial exams, he focuses on baseball. He also writes @thepointofpgh. Follow him on twitter @Ottoneutrades

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dashdmember
7 years ago

Ok I get the K rate for Robbie Ray, but seriously? Ahead of Keuchel / Salazaar / Hendricks? What about his abysmal HR rate?

Also unrelated but why is Tanaka so low?

Owen
7 years ago
Reply to  dashd

K Rate is huge. Hendricks and Keuchel don’t have K rates anywhere near Ray

Azizalmember
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe Douglas

Keuchel pitched hurt last year though, is that not factored in?