2016 Ottoneu FGpts Rankings – 2B/SS
Below is the Second Base and Shortstop installments of our 2016 Ottoneu FGpt rankings.
Previous Rankings: Catcher/First Base/Third Base
In the context of Ottoneu, perhaps rankings are a misnomer, because you really want to know the dollar value each player is worth. We’ve included this information for our benefit. In all, these rankings should help to give you a spread of four dollar values for each player, as well as a comparison to average prices (post-arbitration, pre-cut deadline) within the Ottoneu FGpts universe. Each player’s Ottoneu eligibility (5GS, 10 appearances) is included as well, though players are ranked at their most valuable position. If you have questions on a specific ranking, or a question for a specific ranker, feel free to let us know in the comments.
Consider this your very early, subject to change, Ottoneu pricing cheat sheet.
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Key:
Split – Difference from highest to lowest $ value
Otto.– Average price across Ottoneu FGpts leagues
AVG. – Average $ value from the four of us
(+/-) – Difference between Ottoneu average price and our average $ value
Some Takeaways:
Name | ELIG | Justin | Joe | Tom | Trey | Split | Otto. | AVG. | (+/-) | |
1 | Jose Altuve | 2B | $32 | $31 | $29 | $34 | $5 | $25 | $32 | $6 |
2 | Matt Carpenter | 2B/3B | $31 | $32 | $33 | $30 | $3 | $21 | $32 | $10 |
3 | Robinson Cano | 2B | $28 | $30 | $30 | $31 | $3 | $40 | $30 | -$10 |
4 | Jason Kipnis | 2B | $18 | $24 | $16 | $20 | $8 | $19 | $20 | $0 |
5 | Anthony Rendon | 2B/3B | $17 | $20 | $21 | $20 | $4 | $21 | $20 | -$2 |
6 | Brian Dozier | 2B | $20 | $17 | $16 | $24 | $8 | $12 | $19 | $7 |
7 | Ben Zobrist | 2B/OF | $18 | $20 | $20 | $18 | $2 | $25 | $19 | -$6 |
8 | Rougned Odor | 2B | $18 | $19 | $18 | $17 | $2 | $8 | $18 | $10 |
9 | Daniel Murphy | 1B/2B/3B | $15 | $15 | $16 | $14 | $2 | $10 | $15 | $5 |
10 | Neil Walker | 2B | $14 | $14 | $14 | $13 | $1 | $12 | $14 | $1 |
11 | Ian Kinsler | 2B | $15 | $13 | $12 | $14 | $3 | $21 | $14 | -$8 |
12 | Dustin Pedroia | 2B | $9 | $13 | $15 | $15 | $6 | $21 | $13 | -$8 |
13 | Dee Gordon | 2B | $8 | $10 | $10 | $11 | $3 | $9 | $10 | $1 |
14 | Howie Kendrick | 2B | $4 | $10 | $6 | $10 | $6 | $11 | $8 | -$3 |
15 | Joe Panik | 2B | $4 | $8 | $6 | $8 | $4 | $5 | $7 | $1 |
16 | Logan Forsythe | 1B/2B | $4 | $8 | $2 | $9 | $7 | $4 | $6 | $2 |
17 | Matt Duffy | 2B/3B | $8 | $8 | $2 | $5 | $6 | $5 | $6 | $1 |
18 | DJ LeMahieu | 2B | $7 | $5 | $4 | $6 | $3 | $4 | $6 | $1 |
19 | Josh Harrison | 2B/3B/OF | $6 | $6 | $5 | $5 | $1 | $8 | $6 | -$2 |
20 | Kolten Wong | 2B | $3 | $6 | $6 | $6 | $3 | $10 | $5 | -$4 |
21 | Devon Travis | 2B | $6 | $7 | $4 | $2 | $5 | $5 | $5 | -$1 |
22 | Steve Pearce | 1B/2B/OF | $3 | $4 | $6 | $4 | $3 | $7 | $4 | -$3 |
23 | Martin Prado | 2B/3B | $2 | $3 | $4 | $4 | $2 | $12 | $3 | -$9 |
24 | Derek Dietrich | 2B/3B/OF | $1 | $2 | $3 | $2 | $2 | $4 | $2 | -$2 |
25 | Brett Lawrie | 2B/3B | $1 | $2 | $1 | $3 | $2 | $12 | $2 | -$11 |
26 | Jonathan Schoop | 2B | $1 | $1 | $1 | $3 | $2 | $5 | $2 | -$3 |
27 | Yoan Moncada | 2B | $0 | $5 | $0 | $0 | $5 | $10 | $1 | -$9 |
28 | Dustin Ackley | 2B/OF | $1 | $1 | $1 | $1 | $0 | $5 | $1 | -$4 |
29 | Chris Coghlan | 2B/OF | $1 | $1 | $1 | $1 | $0 | $3 | $1 | -$2 |
30 | Yangervis Solarte | 1B/2B/3B | $0 | $1 | $0 | $2 | $2 | $4 | $1 | -$3 |
31 | Brandon Phillips | 2B | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $1 | $6 | $1 | -$5 |
32 | Robert Refsnyder | 2B | $1 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $4 | $0 | -$4 |
33 | Dilson Herrera | 2B | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $4 | $0 | -$4 |
34 | Brandon Drury | 2B/3B | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $3 | $0 | -$3 |
Total $ | $296 | $336 | $303 | $335 | ||||||
Total Ranked | 29 | 30 | 29 | 32 |
Name | ELIG | Justin | Joe | Tom | Trey | Split | Otto. | AVG. | (+/-) | |
1 | Manny Machado | 3B/SS | $47 | $47 | $45 | $46 | $2 | $26 | $46 | $20 |
2 | Carlos Correa | SS | $40 | $42 | $37 | $39 | $3 | $17 | $39 | $22 |
3 | Xander Bogaerts | SS | $26 | $26 | $27 | $20 | $7 | $18 | $25 | $7 |
4 | Troy Tulowitzki | SS | $16 | $20 | $29 | $23 | $13 | $44 | $22 | -$22 |
5 | Corey Seager | SS | $25 | $22 | $21 | $19 | $6 | $10 | $22 | $12 |
6 | Francisco Lindor | SS | $19 | $16 | $14 | $15 | $5 | $9 | $16 | $7 |
7 | Jhonny Peralta | SS | $12 | $13 | $15 | $12 | $3 | $10 | $13 | $3 |
8 | Marcus Semien | SS | $14 | $13 | $11 | $9 | $5 | $9 | $12 | $3 |
9 | Jung-ho Kang | 3B/SS | $12 | $10 | $10 | $11 | $2 | $10 | $11 | $0 |
10 | Addison Russell | 2B/SS | $5 | $8 | $12 | $13 | $8 | $10 | $10 | $0 |
11 | Ian Desmond | SS | $11 | $10 | $5 | $10 | $6 | $17 | $9 | -$8 |
12 | Starlin Castro | 2B/SS | $8 | $4 | $13 | $9 | $9 | $16 | $9 | -$7 |
13 | Javier Baez | 2B/3B/SS | $9 | $7 | $6 | $8 | $3 | $10 | $8 | -$3 |
14 | Eugenio Suarez | SS | $7 | $6 | $6 | $6 | $1 | $4 | $6 | $2 |
15 | Asdrubal Cabrera | SS | $5 | $4 | $9 | $6 | $5 | $6 | $6 | $0 |
16 | Brandon Crawford | SS | $5 | $6 | $4 | $9 | $5 | $5 | $6 | $1 |
17 | Jose Reyes | SS | $13 | $4 | $0 | $6 | $13 | $25 | $6 | -$19 |
18 | Jedd Gyorko | 2B/SS | $4 | $4 | $6 | $4 | $2 | $7 | $5 | -$2 |
19 | Trevor Story | 2B/SS | $7 | $6 | $1 | $2 | $6 | $4 | $4 | $0 |
20 | Brad Miller | 2B/OF/SS | $4 | $4 | $3 | $5 | $2 | $6 | $4 | -$2 |
21 | Jed Lowrie | 3B/SS | $2 | $4 | $4 | $5 | $3 | $8 | $4 | -$4 |
22 | J.P. Crawford | SS | $1 | $6 | $2 | $4 | $5 | $4 | $3 | -$1 |
23 | Didi Gregorius | SS | $2 | $4 | $3 | $3 | $2 | $4 | $3 | -$1 |
24 | Elvis Andrus | SS | $5 | $1 | $2 | $2 | $4 | $10 | $3 | -$7 |
25 | Ketel Marte | SS | $1 | $3 | $3 | $2 | $2 | $4 | $2 | -$2 |
26 | Trea Turner | 2B/SS | $1 | $5 | $2 | $1 | $4 | $5 | $2 | -$3 |
27 | Wilmer Flores | 2B/SS | $2 | $1 | $2 | $3 | $2 | $5 | $2 | -$3 |
28 | Orlando Arcia | SS | $0 | $3 | $3 | $2 | $3 | $4 | $2 | -$2 |
29 | Zack Cozart | SS | $0 | $2 | $4 | $1 | $4 | $5 | $2 | -$3 |
30 | Erick Aybar | SS | $3 | $2 | $0 | $1 | $3 | $6 | $2 | -$4 |
31 | Andrelton Simmons | SS | $0 | $1 | $2 | $1 | $2 | $5 | $1 | -$4 |
32 | Dansby Swanson | SS | $0 | $3 | $0 | $0 | $3 | $5 | $1 | -$5 |
33 | Brendan Rogers | SS | $0 | $3 | $0 | $0 | $3 | $4 | $1 | -$3 |
34 | Alex Bregman | SS | $0 | $3 | $0 | $0 | $3 | $4 | $1 | -$3 |
35 | Franklin Barreto | SS | $0 | $3 | $0 | $0 | $3 | $3 | $1 | -$2 |
36 | Brock Holt | 1B/2B/3B/OF/SS | $1 | $1 | $1 | $0 | $1 | $4 | $1 | -$4 |
37 | Eduardo Escobar | 2B/3B/OF/SS | $1 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $4 | $1 | -$3 |
38 | Enrique Hernandez | 2B/OF/SS | $1 | $1 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $5 | $1 | -$4 |
39 | Ozhaino Albies | SS | $0 | $1 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $2 | $0 | -$2 |
40 | Danny Espinosa | 1B/2B/3B/SS | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $4 | $0 | -$4 |
41 | Jean Segura | SS | $0 | $0 | $0 | $1 | $1 | $9 | $0 | -$8 |
Total $ | $309 | $319 | $302 | $300 | ||||||
Total Ranked | 31 | 38 | 30 | 34 |
Only players who received a ranking from at least one of the four of us were included. Players not listed are likely post-auction pick-ups ($1 players). The line between a $1 player and a post-auction pick-up is very small.
Each owner has different biases to certain positions. To help illustrate these we’ve included “Total $” and “Total ranked” at the bottom of the table. We hope this helps you pick apart some different owner strategies/biases.
The (+/-) column may be helpful in determining which players may generally be overrated by your league mates.
Joe works at a consulting firm in Pittsburgh. When he isn't working or studying for actuarial exams, he focuses on baseball. He also writes @thepointofpgh. Follow him on twitter @Ottoneutrades
Question for Tom regarding Reyes, why the $0 valuation? That would mean he’s not rosterable correct? Pretty big difference between that and the $13 valuation from Justin, just wondering what the thought process was behind it.
Yeah, basically. It’s hard to have TOO much subtlety in a list ranking like this, but I imagine Reyes is a player we’ll discuss when we record an upcoming podcast about these rankings (You didn’t hear it from me!) but on short, my ranking reflects the risk more than his ability. I was already worried about his declining skills and injuries, but with no word yet on any suspension or even potential jail time, I just don’t want Reyes on my team. Different than, say, Aroldis Chapman, where we know he may face a suspension, but he doesn’t have an ongoing legal investigation on top of any MLB discipline. I wouldn’t mock someone who picked him up for $10 hoping for the best case scenario, but I’m not drafting him this year.
In short*
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.