Trading For the Stretch Run
We’re about 60% of the way through the regular season, the Major League trading deadline is coming in a week and a half and if your league has its own deadline, it’s also likely coming at some point over the next month. For me personally, trading is one of the most frustrating activities in fantasy baseball. Whether your potential trading partner’s player valuations are idiotic or his response for declining your offer that you genuinely believe helps both teams is illogical, I don’t really enjoy the whole process. It feels more like work to me than something fun. But, sometimes we simply need to make a trade, whether to fill a hole using our depth or to plug a categorical weakness by utilizing a strength.
Through the first couple of months of the season, I’m pretty much a slave to my preseason dollar values. It guides me through my trade negotiations and ensures that I am valuing a player’s statistical contributions correctly. It also guarantees that I am getting enough in return for the value that I am giving up, given what we currently know. Obviously, my crystal ball doesn’t always work, so in hindsight, it is very possible I ended up not getting enough value in return.
That said, as difficult as it is for me to do, now is just about the time at which those values could be thrown away. It is still important to have an idea about how a 15 HR/30 SB guy compares to a 35 HR/5 SB guy, but the worry about getting completely fair value is no longer as concerning as it was earlier in the season.
Context is now king. You know what categories your team is weak in and what it’s strong in. Unless you just got five players back from the DL who all contribute in the same offensive category (five power guys or five speed guys), then the shape of your team’s performance is unlikely to change that dramatically if you fail to make a change over the rest of the season.
It’s time to key in on every category and add up how many points you can gain and lose in all of them. If one of the categories is very bunched up and you can both gain and lose a lot of points, that is one you might want to bolster. For a category with limited potential movement, you could either stand pat or identify a player you could trade away without dramatically hurting any of the other categories.
I mentioned earlier that you cannot worry about whether you are getting equal value anymore. If you need speed and have power to spare, it doesn’t matter that Nelson Cruz was likely valued as a top 20 or top 25 outfielder at your draft. You trade him for Nate McLouth and smile. Even though McLouth was likely a free agent pickup early in the season and you are slightly embarrassed by making what appears to be a buy high trade, you will gain more points by making the switch than by trying to avoid looking silly and doing nothing. If McLouth is the best speedster being offered to you, then you click the accept button and enjoy the steals points you will gain.
Of course, the standard 5×5 fantasy categories are pretty interrelated. It is difficult to make a trade without losing something somewhere. This is especially true when making these power for speed type deals. Though, this doesn’t always apply, like when making a trade based on a different valuation of a player, such as Domonic Brown for Edwin Encarnacion, whose season-to-date stats are very similar.
The last thing to remember is that at this point, it is much easier to make a run in a counting stat category than a ratio category. Furthermore, any of the three rate stat categories are pretty fickle over a relatively small sample size. So although you may think you’re boosting your batting average by “upgrading” from Andrelton Simmons to Jhonny Peralta, keep BABIPs in mind and that 40% of a season isn’t nearly enough for luck to run its course. So what I’m saying is that yes, Jeff Locke could post an ERA a full run and a half below Justin Verlander’s. As such, you will probably experience a greater impact on your point total by acquiring a hitter, rather than a starting pitcher, just because of the counting stat categories being four for hitters and just two for starting pitchers.
Happy trading!
Mike Podhorzer is the founder of ProjectingX IQ, an advanced fantasy baseball analytics platform that transforms projection data and in-season performance signals into actionable intelligence. He is the 2015 Fantasy Sports Writers Association Baseball Writer of the Year and three-time Tout Wars champion. He is the author of the eBook Projecting X 2.0: How to Forecast Baseball Player Performance, which teaches you how to project players yourself. Follow Mike on X@MikePodhorzer and contact him via email.
Good advice.
I agree with the advice generally. But McLouth is a bad example. If you need SBs, don’t go after him. Since June 5, he has 4 SB and 3 CS (in 38 games). Since June 21, he has 1 SB and 1 CS (and a .293 OBP) (in 26 games). It was a nice run at the start of the season, but it appears to be over.
Yeah, seriously – what happened? I thought I had finally cured my SB woes only to find myself in just as deep of a hole over the last month or so.
if i have a struggling team, i’ll usually try to do a quality for quantity trade. for example, right now i have a team in the middle of the pack, and they haven’t got going all year so i’m serving up cano in hopes of getting a good package of players back. i usually send out offers to teams above me in the standings as they’d be lured in by a cano type and probably have enough depth to give me what i need. i never feel good doing it, but it works more often than not.
I do the opposite when I’m winning (which is normal).
Nice advice indeed.
Would you trade Kipnis at this point? His avg/babip seem unsustainable. He is hard to replace and its not like I can trade him for
Cano. My needs are for SP and SV. I am torn.
Please advise. Many thanks.
While he’s likely to fall from his current pace, I think he remains a top 5 second baseman, so I’m not sure you’d be able to really profit from moving him. Though his BABIP looks unsustainable from a historical perspective, his batted ball profile is excellent and validates an inflated mark.
I wouldn’t. His BABIP might regress a bit, and the home runs will slow a little. However, he’s driving the ball to all fields, and given his speed and nonstop hustle I don’t think a BABIP in the .330-.350 range is out of the question.
Thank you gentlemen
Look Mike, until you become a Lucas Duda fan, I can’t take anything you say seriously. I’ll mail you a poster of Lucas “The Main Event” Duda.
Hahaha, I would be happy to hang his poster next to my Justin Ruggiano one.
Speaking of speed for power- what do you think of me sending Marte and Uehara for Brown and Corbin? My ratios and RBIs need help, while SBs (Segura, Rios, Jennings and Choo) are pretty well covered.
I would not trade for Corbin right now. It might be the gambler’s fallacy, but damn he has a lot of potential regression ahead of him. Marte for Brown works for me, but if he has a better pitcher than Corbin, then I’d try that first.
not even a puig for corbin deal?
Tried Burnett and also straight up, but he declined. I feel like saves are so variable. Accepted the deal and plan on picking up Ziegler for my third closer. Hopefully Corbin’s regression never comes!
Piug or Harper ROS? And could a Piug – Sabathia Deal pull a Harper or Chris Sale type in a keeper league/should it?
Also was offered Votto, Nick Franklin, Sergio Romo and Cueto for Rizzo, CarGomez and Jose Fernandez(Keeping in mind his inning limit.) Need SV’s ERA and AVG .Still cant decide if this is the defiinition of a brilliant “stretch run” trade or just insane. Love Fernandez and Rizzo’s Keepability but they might not be the best options for a run at a title this year…so confused.
Not even close – Harper! I would think in a keeper league, Puig could pull a Verlander! But I can’t predict how other owners value players. I’d next more context with regards to that big trade. Franklin and Gomez don’t play the same position. Also, you need ratios, but who knows when Cueto returns.
Hey Mike – Can you get behind trading Bumgarner for Kipnis? OPS is my 6th cat and my staff is super deep (Strasburg, Bum, Shields, Cain, Samardzjia, Hamels, Colon, Iwakuma). 10-team non-keeper
Absolutely could! In fact, in my preseason values for my 12-team mixed league, I had those two valued almost identically.
Mike, I’ve got Verlander, Wainwright, Scherzer, Garza, Lackey, Kuroda, Greinke, Chacin, and an injured Buchholz, and could definitely use a boost in HR and RBI. I definitely feel that I can afford to deal a SP, so anyone I should be trying to trade/any targets I should be looking to snag with these guys?
I’d say I need help at 1B and OF the most (C-Mauer, 2B-Kinsler, 3B-Longo, SS-Tulo, so I’m definitely set in those spots). 12-team redraft, if that helps.
OMG, best user name ever. You have no idea that you commented on the author’s article who actually dressed up as Hubert Cumberdale for Halloween once. I think Chacin stinks, but can’t imagine he has much trade value. Kuroda is a good sell high guy, but also doesn’t have the name value. I’d look to teams that need pitching help and just start making offers for hitters at those positions and see what happens.
Sick costume idea! How’d you go about doing it? I’d be interested to see how well you pulled it off. Sadly, probably 6% of the population would actually get it these days. Still, semi-terrifying and those who do get it would love it.
Thanks for the advice, man.
Bought some black makeup to put on my face, bought a bald cap and a brown shirt that was similar to what he wore. I then painted button and random stuff on the shirt as well. It was an uncomfortable costume and nobody had a clue who I was, but were seriously creeped out.
Another strategy I like to use is strength of schedule – I have a large lead in my H2H 5×5 each cat league so I am preparing for the playoffs. Cards and Rockies hitters and Braves pitchers both have great schedules during that period. Boston pitchers do not have good schedules. What do you think of my Rios, Hosmer and Lackey for his Holliday, Fowler and Minor?
You probably win each part of that
12-team 5×5 redraft, could use help in HRs and RBIs (and could use avg help), can you get behind my Altuve for his Holliday? (I would slide Matt Carpenter into 2nd.) I hate giving up the steals but Holliday could potentially give me a nice boost in 3 categories. Wait to see if Holliday comes back soon? Appreciate it.
Ummm yeah. Even preseason Holliday I valued much more than Altuve. Holliday should be back this weekend.
Comments on a Butler and Hardy for Reyes swap?
Totally unfair in a game of teeter-totter.