Trade Reviews: Early April Edition (2018)
One of the great things about Ottoneu is the high level of engagement by the growing community of owners. Few topics get the masses talking more than crowd-sourcing feedback on recent league trades, so today I want to highlight a few of the more interesting trades I’ve seen recently to get a pulse on how some player values are already shifting early this season.
As a quick reminder, Ottoneu is a keeper system by design that shifts the balance just short of traditional dynasty leagues, and offers a variety of scoring systems (including H2H this year).
Few players have seen their value shift as wildly as Shohei Ohtani over the past few weeks. What he’s managed to do to start the season with both the bat (1.286 OPS) and off the mound (97.8 mph fastball) has at least verified that he’s as talented as the world thought he was, but the fact that he now looks less raw than he did just a few weeks ago in spring training tells you everything you need to know about the upward trajectory of his value in fantasy baseball leagues. If you don’t happen to own Ohtani already, he’s going to be one of the hardest players in the game to acquire over the next 30 days. He’s young, exciting, and just for the cool factor of clicking between batting and pitching stats on his FanGraphs page makes him the hottest commodity in the game right now, especially if you have the flexibility of slotting him into your daily lineup or your rotation like Ottoneu provides.
If you do happen to own Ohtani, now might be the very best time to shop him. It’s never easy to trade away an exciting player, but his value is skyrocketing, so if you can get a Noah Syndergaard or Clayton Kershaw out of the deal, you may want to think about cashing in. Earlier this winter I pegged Ohtani’s pitching value to be somewhere close to Lance McCullers, and I’ll hold steady on that estimate. His real value increase is rising faster on the offensive side of his profile, but don’t get too carried away just yet.
Few players were hotter this spring than Ian Happ, but just in case you haven’t been paying attention, Happ is now also rocking a 58% strikeout rate (14 K’s in 24 PA). Obviously that rate will stabilize, but Happ landed above 30% last year too and isn’t without risk of being sent back to the minors early in the season if he doesn’t make adjustments soon. I bought in on a Happ breakout a few weeks ago but I’d be lying if I didn’t say I’m nervous right now.
Ironically, Cody Bellinger’s value has also suffered a bit due to small sample strikeouts (17 K’s during World Series) despite having a phenomenal debut in 2017 to set a firm foundation. My impression is that owners are a bit nervous about owning Bellinger because they don’t have a good gauge on his floor, so this could be a buying opportunity.
Brandon Belt had a great spring and it seems to have carried over (.450 wOBA in 20 PA). I’ve always been a fan of Belt and feel he’s been a bit underrated in fantasy circles. It’s hard to blame the crowds for their wariness – Belt has a checkered injury history due to several serious concussions – but injury-prone players wear that badge until they don’t, and sometimes (if the price is low enough), it’s good to get out ahead of the tide change and buy. If you can land Belt right now for a solid middle reliever, you should pull that trigger. Here’s to hoping Belt has a great, full, healthy season.
Lots of value volatility here. Eric Thames was unstoppable one year ago when he caught ? and rewarded Brewers fans and fantasy owners with a .345/.466/.810 month of April. Since that time Thames has seen his value crater in part because of his second half slide last year and the fact that he’s mostly a platoon in MIL vs. RHP this year. Again, this may represent a buying opportunity, as Thames still has plenty of thump that should continue to play up in a great ballpark when he is less exposed against same side pitching.
Unlike Thames, Joe Musgrove was a huge sleeper coming in to drafts just a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, he’s now on the shelf for a shoulder issue that doesn’t sound good at all. If you currently own Musgrove your best bet may be to cut now while he still has some cache value, hoping another owner takes the risk.
Ah, a Ronald Acuna trade! Outside of Ohtani, there might not be a more coveted player in keeper leagues right now than Acuna. This trade is interesting for both it’s simplicity and it’s boldness, on both sides. Smart Acuna owners who remember the lackluster fantasy debuts of other elite prospects like Byron Buxton and Yoan Moncada and will hedge their bets and shop Acuna for a healthy return right now as his value will peak just before his (coming soon) call up. Other Acuna owners will convince themselves that “Acuna is different” and hold on no matter what.
I have no idea where Acuna will end up on the prospect spectrum, but we’ll all find out soon enough. I do know that if you happen to own Acuna right now you should at least dream on what he means for your team if you cash him in. As Brad Johnson recently told me when I inquired on Acuna in the FanGraphs Staff League, “I’m not really looking to make a fair trade if moving Acuna”. I think Brad is spot on.
Just for an interesting comparison to Acuna, here’s another top prospect trade that’s simple enough to isolate the true value. Gleyber Torres ranked prominently on my recent Top 100 prospect list and I think he will be up in May with the potential to have immediate impact. That said, snagging a top 10 closer at this point feels about right, though I expect Torres, like Acuna, to see his fantasy value rise the closer we get to his potential debut. Keep that in mind if you’re targeting Torres or happen to be shopping him for reinforcements early in the season.
Wow, what a trade. I’ve been very impressed watching some of Alex Bregman’s at bats this season, and I’ve already touched on Bellinger above. But pound for pound don’t we all still want Giancarlo Stanton and Manny Machado here? Maybe both Bregman and Bellinger have more value than I thought, and if so, it’s a great time to shop them.
Just eyeballing recent trades, it looks like Yasiel Puig is the most traded player in fantasy circles to start the season. My impression is that Puig is a human hot potato – everyone knows there’s talent and real value, but no one really knows what it will look like or when it will come together, so no one wants to hold him for too long. He is, in a word: unpredictable.
Scratch that earlier line: here’s what Puig talent really looks like.
Want feedback on your own trade? Feel free to post it in the comments and I’ll be glad to weigh in. Even if you don’t play Ottoneu you can check out this live trade feed as it may help to give you a sense of how player valuations are changing in real time this season.
Trey is a 20+ year fantasy veteran and an early adopter of Ottoneu fantasy sports. He currently administers the Ottoneu community, a network of ~1,200 fantasy baseball and football fans talking sports daily. More resources here: http://community.ottoneu.com








Great article idea. Hope you do lots more!
Where would you peg the value of Vlad Guerrero Jr at this point, in terms of trading current value? One of my teams is in rough shape as a 2018 contender, and I am considering a trade for Vlad Jr from a contender. My sense is that Vlad Jr is a 2020 asset, and will be 3B only, so I think his trade value is probably limited in trades at this point. But if he is as talented as some suggest, he could be in the majors by mid-2019 and might be a great asset. I’m not sold on him yet.
You should definitely make that trade before Vlad debuts and becomes untouchable. Says the guy who made the offer. 😉
Good question in context of what we’re seeing with Acuna. My own personal take is that there is very little (in OBP/FGPTS leagues) separating Vlad Jr. and Acuna in raw talent, but the gap in perceived value is mostly due to Acuna’s near term ETA and helium ascent last year. I think Vlad might actually debut in 2018 (September), and I think he’s good enough to hold real value in 2019, not 2020. In other words, I think Vlad’s upside is equal to Acuna but you should be able to get him much cheaper right now, obviously. Same can be true of Eloy Jimenez.
That Ohtani trade is horrible. An $18 Ohtani and Brinson for Thor and two cuts. Ohtani has 1500-1900 point potential and Brinson could easily put up 850. Also forces a cut. Just horrible.
This seems debatable. Ohtani looks great but the sample is small and we already know Thor is one of the best arms in the game (IF healthy). I’m not so sure the Crawford/Bradley side has less value than Brinson, either. I think this trade is tough to evaluate, which is why I posted it. Could go a number of different directions but I don’t see it as a slam dunk for Ohtani.
Yeah, funny, I had the opposite reaction from joectaz – like damn, Thor is in play for for Ohtani? And Bradley and Crawford and minor but useful things.
That 1500-1900 points guess also must be counting hitting and pitching stats, too, and I’m not using Ohtani in my Util slot when I can use a <$5 Hanley, Lomo, Duda, etc. so that point total is illusory
Haha I first read his reply as incredulous towards trading Noah for two hopes and a prayer. He was saying it was awful for the guy trading away Ohtani?!? Some leagues don’t count offensive stats from pitchers so his value is limited and he has a looooong way to go to reach Syndergaard’s tier.
The league from this trade does count offensive stats of pitchers. Syndergaard has had 1 season of over 780 points in 3 years. Ohtani has already posted 155.9 points to Thor’s 51.4. It is early, but Ohtani will probably post 400+ more points than Thor this year assuming both stay healthy all season. Even pitching points alone. Ohtani is 103.50 to Syndergaard’s 51.4 so far with 2 starts each.
My thoughts exactly. Trading two hopes and a prayer for a top-10 starting pitcher. Awful.
12 team 5 x 5 roto
JD MARTINEZ & R Zimmerman
for
G Holland and FAMILIA
is this fair?
The team getting JDM seems like a clear winner here, even if Zimmerman isn’t attached. Feels like the Holland/Familia side would need to add to the equation.
16 team, 25 keeper league.
Sale, Calhoun and Jake Lamb for Bryant, Lamet and Taijuan Walker. What do you think for both sides?
Really hard to vote against Bryant but I think the value of Lamb and Calhoun (Willie?) over the two SP offset Bryant over Sale.
thank you for leading me to the Demonstrative Takes by Yasiel Puig post. Highlight of my day. Also, I own both Gleyber and Ketel Marte as prime keepers in a keeper league – any chance either of them retains SS eligibility for next year?
With the way the 10 Day DL works now I think there’s a better chance both keep SS for 2019 assuming you need 5-10 starts, not 20
Interesting post. I like a lot of the trades detailed here, but that first trade opened my eyes. Ohtani should be viewed as a pitching prospect. Would you trade Syndergaard for a top prospect? Doubtful, unless you need the auction budget. So that deal is Thor for Brinson (who has keeper-value but will be volatile all season) and Ohtani (who’s value will never be higher and still has a long road ahead of him to come close to Syndergaard).
Ohtani needs to be viewed within the context of each leagues respective rules, he’s pretty unique.
Ohtani’s value continues to rise after his dominate performance vs the A’s last night. As the person on the receiving end of Ohtani in the trade that was posted, I make this trade every time with Syndergaards injury history and Ohtani’s upside at just $18. Syndergaard has had 1 season of over 780 points in 3 years. No way can you say this trade is basically Thor for Brinson. Ohtani has already posted 155.9 points to Thor’s 51.4. It is early, but Ohtani will probably post 400+ more points than Thor this year assuming both stay healthy all season.
12 team FGPTS, $9 Gallo and $3 Kahnle for $8 Fowler and $6 F. Rivero, who comes out on top?
I like the Gallo side there
do you like bour or belt better?
Belt, by a good margin. But part of that reason is because he has OF eligibility in some leagues like Ottoneu. I think he’s a better hitter anyway though.
10 team, 50 man rosters, 40 keepers, 6×6, OBP and SLG, H2H,
Scott Kingery, Luis Robert, Evan Gattis for Willson Contreras.
Crazy setup. I want the threesome there but it’s kinda close.
Thanks!
Paul Goldschmidt @ $48 for Ohtani @ $29 and Reyes @ $6. I’m aiming at next year though. Have Trout, Betts, Correa, Bryant, Vlad, Gleyber, Rodgers so I feel comfy on offense.
Because of your depth yes, I’d move Goldy for Ohtani +. I assume Reyes is “Alex”. I don’t think Ohtani will get much more than 150 IP this season, but if you’re playing for next year and he gets closer to 185+ as a #1 or #2 SP, that’s a solid deal (plus whatever you get for the bat, which looks better than advertised at this point)
I pulled the trigger before I checked back, so this makes me feel better. Reyes is indeed Alex. The added bonus of the bat on top of getting some cap space is what really sold it for me.
12 team fgpts, 5$ haniger and 8$ minter for 1$ matt chapman, 14$ diaz, 3$ hunter greene.
thoughts?
I prefer the Haniger/Minter side. Love Diaz; Chapman ok; don’t think Greene is relevant for another 2+ years
That is exactly why I made that trade for Thames. His rotational upside in my lineup looked a lot higher than Musgrove’s, plus I needed some OF depth.