Too Many Keepers?

Yesterday’s post about delinquency was supposed to be today’s post about too many keepers. But first, I have some business to finish from yesterday. As I mentioned, three owners failed to select their keepers, one had yet to pay, and one couldn’t make the draft. My one day extension was enough for two of the owners to make their keeper picks. That leaves the guy who hasn’t paid and can’t draft. So it’s time to replace him.

I’m accepting short applications for his spot. Must have qualifications include an ability to pay $40 via PayPal (not Venmo) by end of today, willingness to select keepers by the end of today, and availability for the auction draft on Monday, March 13 at 7pm ET. It won’t hurt your application if you’re an active, successful fantasy player. I will select the person with whom I want to play by early afternoon.

Update: Thank you for your applications. I will be in touch with the winner shortly.

Onto today’s business…

A few notes about the league – this is relevant to any prospective owners and also for the upcoming keeper discussion. It’s 12-team 5×5 with OPS instead of AVG and standard two catcher deep rosters. Budgets are $310 and keepers cost previous draft price +$7. The follow chart contains my entire list of keeper choices – hitters on the left and pitchers on the right.

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My Keeper Options
Player Pos Cost Player Pos Cost
Willson Contreras C 8 James Paxton SP 8
Austin Hedges C 8 Ivan Nova SP 8
Victor Martinez 1B 8 Kevin Gausman SP 8
Jose Altuve 2B 36 Jameson Taillon SP 8
Jung-ho Kang 3B 16 Joe Musgrove SP 8
Dansby Swanson SS 8 Luke Weaver SP 8
Trevor Story SS 8 Alex Colome RP 8
Jose Reyes 3B/SS 8 Seth Lugo SP 8
David Dahl OF 8 Jharel Cotton SP 8
Jose Peraza 2B/SS/OF 8 Chris Archer SP 22
Randal Grichuk OF 15 Matt Shoemaker SP 9
Nomar Mazara OF 8 Steven Matz SP 15
Gregory Polanco OF 24
Ryon Healy CI 8
Jake Lamb 3B 8
Andrew Benintendi OF 8
Alex Bregman 3B/MI 8
Raimel Tapia OF 8
Eugenio Suarez 3B 15
Roman Quinn OF 8
Brad Zimmer OF 1

In a normal year, I would have agonized over players like Healy, Musgrove, Nova, Weaver, Shoemaker, and Cotton. They all have upside beyond their $8 cost (and sub-$1 downside too), but my roster was just too constrained to consider them. Here’s what I actually kept.

Actually Kept Players
Pos
C Contreras 8
C Hedges 8
1B
2B Altuve 36
SS Story 8
3B Lamb 8
MI Swanson 8
CI Bregman 8
OF Mazara 8
OF Polanco 24
OF Dahl 8
OF Benintendi 8
OF Peraza 8
UTIL Reyes 8
SP Archer 22
SP Paxton 8
SP Taillon 8
SP Gausman 8
SP Matz 15
RP Colome 8

I probably overpaid for Hedges just so I could cross catchers off the list of needs. I do believe in his swing changes, although I worry about his power playing at Petco. Some might question my decision to keep Reyes too, but I’m “encouraged” by David Wright’s inability to throw.

Otherwise, these are all solid values. Unfortunately, few have star-level ceilings in 2017, and ya kinda need those to win a fantasy league. Instead, I have a bunch of $15 guys on $8 contracts. That’s why I couldn’t take more fliers on guys like Cotton – I need to dedicate my 10 remaining roster slots to solving problems.

I spent $148 on my offense. Ideally, I’ll have Peraza and Reyes filling super utility roles on my bench. That means drafting at least one outfielder and a utility slugger. First base is the only position I’m forced to address. This group should fill up the stat sheet, although home runs and OPS could probably use reinforcement. The reliance on rookies and sophomores is a tad disconcerting. I expect a volatile offense.

My pitchers cost $69. While I resisted prospects like Cotton and Weaver, I couldn’t stay away from the breakout potential of Paxton and Gausman. In both cases, I see a higher floor and a higher ceiling than the players I cut. I’m less confident about Taillon despite an impressive debut.

Overall, I spent $217 on keepers, leaving me with $93 for the draft. Since I already have most of my roster filled, I can adapt to the draft room rather than going in with a must-execute plan. There’s a wide range of options available to me.

As a reminder, keepers cost previous draft price +$7. That means all those $8 keepers were $1 draftees or waiver pickups. I probably want at least five of my picks to be of the $1 variety. I could choose to go for two elite players and eight $1 fliers. Perhaps a first baseman and a starter? However, that would leave me exposed at closer where I’m sitting on could-be-traded Colome.

If I budget for a second closer, that leaves me with the funds for one star and a couple core performers. That’s a better fit for my roster since I wanted to inject some power across first base, outfield, and utility.

Sometimes, the stars are too pricey in this league. In that case, I could try snagging multiple closers and a few core performers. I’d have fewer $1 players than I prefer, but it might wind up as the best distribution of resources.

Should the draft really fall off the rails, forcing me to accept a sub-optimal roster, I’m sitting on a pile of trade resources. Offering up a Benintendi or Bregman should go a long way towards resolving any disasters.





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rickybench
9 years ago

Where does one send you the short application? Is it possible to see the team we’ll be potentially inheriting prior to signing on? Thanks!

BadBecks
9 years ago

Interested too, but I’d also like to see this roster.

Joliet Jake
9 years ago

Very interested in the league & active player. If possible, please provide a list of the roster, values & when keepers are due by.

Joliet Jake
9 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Just looked the the roster. It’s rough that’s for sure, but definitely manageable. If still available I’d be interested. Have played fantasy for 10 years currently with 2 teams this year (one being on a keeper league currently on its 7th year). Very active & willing to comment in posts/leagues if needed.

Joliet Jake
9 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Much appreciated!

Joliet Jake
9 years ago
Reply to  Joliet Jake

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TheCommishMember since 2023
9 years ago

I’m very interested. Will pay and take the team blind (to victory of course).

Colt47hsr
9 years ago

I’m interested. Did one of your experimental leagues last year (Utility Wars- Cespedes’ Prized Pig) and that was fun. Have Paypal and nothing to do at work today so could have keepers in by 5.

Colt47hsr
9 years ago
Reply to  Colt47hsr

An email would help just in case, kevin.coltrinari@gmail.com. Good luck!

bhwatk01
9 years ago

If you lose out on Brad’s league, I’ve got an ottoneu league set to begin @ $50 level, FG Points. We’re Lil’ Lebowski Urban Achievers if you’d like to look us up and shoot me an email @ bhwatk01@gmail.com. We are surveying for draft dates now and will hold two draft sessions because we’re a new league with so many spots to fill. Cheers!

thedudeindenver
9 years ago

Brad, hopefully you’re kind enough to allow this comment to piggyback off your need for an owner in your league- the comments for the ‘Need a League, Find a League’ post are closed.

I co-commish a free league on the ESPN platform. It’s a 12 team, H2H points dynasty league. Rosters are deep, with 40 slots and we keep 28 players each year. I had an owner back out last night and I need someone to take his place. The draft is March 20 at 7 pm PST. If interested, please contact me at Acacioppo08 at Gmail.

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
9 years ago

I’m interested. Been playing since 2003 or so, in three leagues (keeper, NL-only, and dynasty) and commish a league (as noted in Delinquency thread). Open to giving that tricky roster a go if you need a manager. Superfly dot snuka at gmail

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  LightenUpFG

I already have my keepers picked out. 😀

MEDAFAP
9 years ago

Hi Brad… I’m very interested in joining your league and can meet both of your requirements. I’m an active 10-year fantasy baseball vet, most of which as part of two separate 20-team salary cap/dynasty leagues. I don’t have any auction experience, so I’m intrigued by this opportunity. Thanks for your consideration.

jbona3Member since 2016
9 years ago

I’m interested…a few things about me:
–In two keeper leagues now, both functioning for 5+ years (ETA: One snake draft, one auction)
–Been playing fantasy baseball 10+ years
–Ardent Red Sox fan
–Active on waiver wire and trade market
–Can PayPal you $40 immediately, pick keepers today, and draft on the 13th

RonGTMember since 2020
9 years ago

I sent you a stupid e-mail before I read you wanted the application in the comments. If you want someone who can’t wait to read more explicit instructions and has no desire to copy-paste from e-mail to this comment box, check your e-mail and I’m your guy!

Pie
9 years ago

I’ll throw my hat in the ring. I’ve played fantasy baseball for about 13 years, but have usually kept it to one league at a time, with my current league being a 12-team 5×5 with 5 keepers that has been going for 7 years strong. I’ve been looking to expand to a second, ideally a keeper with no keeper restraints (like this league). Although the cupboard looks pretty bare, I enjoy the challenge, plus I both have PayPal and can make the selections by tonight.

snowybeard
9 years ago

I beg to differ that you need to have star level players to win a fantasy league.
I’m in a 16 team points league that’s in its seventh season. As the league has matured, the bad owners have dropped out and been replaced by some very knowledgeable and competent ones.
Nonetheless, a couple of owners (we keep 12) have more talent than the rest of us. (E.g., the #1 seed last year had Miggy, Correa, Russell, Longoria, Machado, Trout, Harper. And that’s just the hitting side.) There’s no inflation since it’s not an auction league.
So before the two week matchup began, the eventual champ proposed to our commissioner that he be allowed to change the name of his team from the Tigers to “The Okay to Good Players” and that the guy loaded with the studs be called “The All-Stars.” Our commish has a good sense of humor so he agreed.
And, of course, for the second time in four years, the guy loaded with the studs lost by a narrow margin in an early round matchup. (He joked afterwards: “Maybe I should change my team name to “The Also-Rans”, lol.)
So luck is always a factor—especially when talking about H2H leagues. And a lot of people prefer H2H leagues now.

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  snowybeard

Did the Okay to Good Players team beat the All-Stars? If so, then that’s a pretty good result indeed. Who was on the OGP team such that they won out (if they indeed won)?

snowybeard
9 years ago
Reply to  LightenUpFG

Yeah, he beat him. It was close, but he beat him and then went on to win the next two rounds and become the champ.
And what makes it even more amazing is this: apart from MadBum and Verlander he really didn’t have a great pitching staff (the other guy had Arrieta, Price, Greinke and Hamels). But he did a great job of picking the right pitchers off the waiver wire. It was like every pitcher he picked up produced major points for him.
The only notable position players he had that I can remember (he’s made some trades since then) were Piscotty, Cain and McCann.
Now you can see why he called them “The Okay to Good Players”!

baltic wolfMember since 2026
9 years ago

I love that team named “The Disabled List”! That’s how I felt last year about one of my teams too. I had Duda, J.D. Martinez, McCullers and Salazar going down with injuries when my place in the playoffs were assured. Conley joined them later. (It’s a 16 team league.)

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
9 years ago

Regarding the article, talk about being in a place with riches pouring from one’s hands! To be able to go with a lot of sub $10 guys so you that you can spend more on the $25+ superstars is the way to go. Could you keep as many players as you wish, or is there a cap?

Robert Cunningham
9 years ago

Brad Johnson, via Twitter, has graciously allowed me to post my need for 2 replacement players for my ESPN 16-team, dynasty League with a 25-man primary roster and an extended 15-man roster (40 total). If you are interested please e-mail me at: ettinone@outlook.com.

You must be able to support a March 25th, 8:30am PST auction draft followed by a secondary Snake draft to fill out the extended 15-man roster. Total time for draft will be about 5 hours give or take. Also must be able to select Keepers by March 11th, no later than 11pm EST.

Thanks Brad!

Nevin
9 years ago

I’d have probably taken Shoemaker or Cotton of Taillion, I just don’t believe. But otherwise, probably the right choices.

bluerum29
9 years ago

So many keeper leagues have league specific rules that it can be very difficult to get any real information out of what others do since it will not apply to your personal league.