Third Base Rankings: RotoGraphs Consensus
Consensus Ranks: OF, C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, and RP and SP.
Tiered Ranks: C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, NL OF, AL SP, NL SP, Holds.
And just because I’ve just finished up watching the Angels in Spring Training, I’ll jump to an absence on this list: Mark Trumbo. He’s not there because he’s not a third baseman yet. In the game I attended, he was the DH. Despite projecting him to be the starting third baseman for the FanGraphs Positional Rankings, I now believe the Angels will mix and match at third base — as they have done before — and that Trumbo won’t be the fulltime third baseman. The team can keep saying that they want to try him there, but if they keep running Alberto Callaspo out there in the spring, their actions speak louder. That means my projection of 461 at-bats, 24 home runs and a .243 batting average could really be dead-on. That’s a crowded team. If that more conservative projection holds true, Trumbo would be worth a little less than Lonnie Chisenhall on my list.
I don’t hate Pablo Sandoval, I just think that a couple of third-basemen will offer more well-rounded lines or more power. Ryan Roberts was held in different esteem by most of us — I felt that even with regression he’d be useful. It’s a little strange to see Daniel Murphy so close to David Freese despite the only Mets fan in the room being sour on his projections. Here’s the thing I may have factored more heavily than the others: Murphy is playing second base again, where he’s blown out his knee two straight years making the turn on double plays. My projections are not heavy on playing time.
The rest of our rankings are pretty similar. Well, we’ll see about Pedro Alvarez.
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When MigCab gets 3b eligibility, does he jump over Joey Bats for the #1 spot? I’m thinking yes.
Also, with Wright having to go back to NY for a rib-cage exam, how far do you think that drops him on this list?
Miggy would be the #1 3B
I’m glad that you guys are doing rankings in this format this year.
Hanley?
I understand that you guys are not placing Miguel or Hanley in the 3B rankings because they are not yet eligible there. But, virtually everyone who drafts Miguel will be drafting him at 3B. If these rankings are meant to be used for draft purposes, why not include them, even if they are not yet eligible?
The big bummer with Sandoval is that his run production sucks – averaging just 77 runs per 162 games in his career. And at this point we shouldn’t expect that to change much – he’s not getting more athletic, and the Giants’ offense looks just as anemic as ever. The batting average and power potential are obviously sexy, but Sandoval is too highly regarded for a guy who’s only really calling card is his high batting average and good-but-not-great power.
I think ranking him there means they think he’ll hit 30 HR. I don’t understand it any other way.
I personally think Beltre is a cut above the ones after Bautista/Longoria but that’s just me. it’s a tightly bunched group after Longoria so I’d imagine if 20 people ranked the 3B #3-#11 you’d get 20 different rankings.
there is such an epic cliff from Youk down to Prado 2 slots later.
I believe I have Pablo projected for 27 HRs. It’s the batting average of .300 that really helps.
For Panda to be the third best 3B he’s going to have to hit .340 or something ridiculous to compensate for the fact that he’s only been scoring 75-80 runs per full season and only driving in 85 or so. There’s not necessarily a reason why those runs/RBI numbers can’t go up, but there’s not a reason why they should go up, either. Same spot in the batting order, roughly the same offensive support.
Looking at last season only 27 HR seems like an OK projection, but that’s still erring on the side of optimism considering he’s at slightly over 22 HR per 162 games for his big league career. In no way am I saying that Pablo isn’t a fine player, he absolutely is, but some of the guys below him like Zim, Wright and Beltre have much better shots at 100 runs, 100 RBI and at least as much (and likely better) power.
Agree on Sandoval. It doesn’t make much sense to rank him above Beltre to me, your looking at potentially 60 less R/RBI combined there.
i think jeff’s ranking of ryan zimmerman needs to be thrown out due to his obvious pro-zimmerman bias
At least Ryan spells his right unlike his teammate Jordan.
For some reason, I feel like Brett Lawrie should be more polarizing but I guess it’s just a tier thing. One of my favourite things to do with these types of lists is to sort via stdev. It’s easy enough to keep things sorted in your head if you just assign max ranking plus one to all unranked players.
As much as I want to criticize fantasy owners for drafting Lawrie so early given his limited experience and potentially fluky big year in 2011, I simply can’t do it given his 20+ steals potential. That’s really a great downside cushion. It’s similar to Hosmer who I initially thought was massively overvalued, but those 10+ steals at 1st are huge, and he’s actually properly valued.
No Casey Blake–I figured he has to be higher than quite a few guys on the list, just based on playing time, if nothing else.
If Sarris is the only one to rank Pedro Alvarez as high as #19, how did he finish at #19 in Staff Consensus?
Because of the problematic way they’ve tabulated these things. Adrian Beltre and Brett Lawrie both tied for fifth, but Ryan Zimmerman, listed after both, is sixth. He should be seventh, and Aramis Ramirez eighth, but they’ve made the whole list this way. Alvarez should actually be #25.
I think you have to get one of the guys from Youk or higher. I wouldn’t really care which one of the three of A Rod, Youk, and Aramis I got but If I didn’t have a 3rd basemen before then you really have to grab one of those guys. Pretty big drop off after that tier.
Wow. I might have to reconsider my draft strategy. Or at least, see how things go on draft day. It isn’t until seeing things here like this that I realize how much depth there is at the position. Third base has been fairly slim in recent years, enough that in my pre-draft rankings (where I’ve made a ton of positional scarcity edits) I pushed Longoria up the middle of the first round.
But now that I’ve really looked at it, I can actually wait. A-Rod is basically the 10th or 11th best fantasy option at third base, if you include Miguel Cabrera. 20ish home runs, an OBP around .350, and a hearty number of runs and RBIs if A-Rod stays healthy. Then I could take a late round flier on someone like Brent Morel to fill in if he’s hurt. Even if I miss on A-Rod, I still could maybe get Youkilis, or at worst, Moustakas. I might even live with Chase Headley.
I need to amend my draft strategy…again.
Really surprised that Zimmerman is so low. Aside from last year when he was obviously hurt for a good portion of the year he’s a roughly .900 OPS hitter and will get a solid 20-30 homers and should be good for 90/90 on the counting stats. (I’m also not convinced that Beltre outproduces ZImmerman this year) Does Lawrie provide that in this season? In a dynasty league I get it, but thinking 2012 only I don’t see it. I also imagine MLB pitchers figuring him out a bit and there being a month or two where he craters this season, before he makes an adjustment
It’s the health issues. It’s been a while, but he missed a good portion of 2008 with health issues, then he missed a couple weeks in 2010, and then 60 games last year. If he’s healthy for 150 games, you’re getting him discounted, but the uncertainty hurts his price tag.
What’s with the hate on Beltre? Dude played 80% of the season last year and still had 80/30/100
Why Sandoval over Beltre? If it’s because of injury issues, it’s not like Panda’s been the bastion of health.