The Change: Eno’s Pitching Ranks

We looked at strikeouts plus pop-ups minus walks, even if I need to re-run those numbers with pop-ups divided by plate appearances. And then we looked at Arsenal Scores, even if I need to re-run those numbers with more precision. Those things, plus projections, all inform my rankings, which I’ll run below.

But a word about my process. Pitching foils projection systems more than hitting for a reason: there are small changes that can make a huge difference. And changes in role are huge.

So, if you sort for the third category in my rankings below (difference percentage), you’ll find a bunch of guys that made small changes down the stretch that I think will make a big difference. And a bunch of guys that I think will win the fifth starter role. As well as guys that get hidden outs with the pop-up, and a bunch of guys undervalued by their overall numbers despite good arsenals.

You might be surprised to hear that I don’t run this all through a projection system and press go, and then run the rankings. That might be the best way to go. But I’m more intuitive. I’d rather play the would you rather and rely on my first impression in some cases. I’d rather go by my own sense of the depth charts than any that is put together for me. I’d rather feel my way through the ranks.

So, yeah, my default rankings are basically straight out of the auction calculator. That helps me stay grounded in the numbers. But then I move guys around like a human being, using all the inputs at my disposal, making intuitive choices along the way. And this is what popped out of my brain machine.

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Eno Sarris Pitching Ranks
Eno Sarris Player RG RK Diff%
1 Clayton Kershaw 1 100
2 Max Scherzer 2 100
3 Chris Sale 3 100
4 David Price 4 100
5 Jake Arrieta 5 100
6 Madison Bumgarner 8 133
7 Zack Greinke 12 171
8 Stephen Strasburg 10 125
9 Jose Fernandez 6 67
10 Matt Harvey 9 90
11 Jacob deGrom 11 100
12 Corey Kluber 7 58
13 Chris Archer 17 131
14 Carlos Carrasco 14 100
15 Gerrit Cole 16 107
16 Noah Syndergaard 19 119
17 Felix Hernandez 13 76
18 Danny Salazar 24 133
19 Johnny Cueto 20 105
20 Jon Lester 18 90
21 Dallas Keuchel 15 71
22 Sonny Gray 27 123
23 Masahiro Tanaka 23 100
24 Cole Hamels 22 92
25 Adam Wainwright 26 104
26 Michael Wacha 36 138
27 Tyson Ross 21 78
28 Michael Pineda 29 104
29 Francisco Liriano 25 86
30 Garrett Richards 28 93
31 Jeff Samardzija 30 97
32 Drew Smyly 50 156
33 Yordano Ventura 40 121
34 Marcus Stroman 31 91
35 Raisel Iglesias 43 123
36 Yu Darvish 38 106
37 Carlos Martinez 37 100
38 Jose Quintana 33 87
39 James Shields 39 100
40 Lance McCullers 48 120
41 Steven Matz 56 137
42 Luis Severino 54 129
43 John Lackey 47 109
44 Taijuan Walker 42 95
45 Wei-Yin Chen 44 98
46 Patrick Corbin 49 107
47 Hisashi Iwakuma 32 68
48 Justin Verlander 41 85
49 Carlos Rodon 60 122
50 Jake Odorizzi 34 68
51 Collin McHugh 46 90
52 Scott Kazmir 35 67
53 Jordan Zimmermann 45 85
54 Mike Fiers 59 109
55 Kevin Gausman 66 120
56 Jaime Garcia 69 123
57 Shelby Miller 62 109
58 Anthony DeSclafani 68 117
59 Eduardo Rodriguez 74 125
60 Jason Hammel 61 102
61 Gio Gonzalez 51 84
62 Kenta Maeda 76 123
63 Aaron Nola 63 100
64 Julio Teheran 55 86
65 Anibal Sanchez 64 98
66 Joe Ross 71 108
67 Andrew Cashner 52 78
68 Kyle Hendricks 57 84
69 Ian Kennedy 58 84
70 Nathan Eovaldi 78 111
71 Hyun-Jin Ryu 75 106
72 Clay Buchholz 53 74
73 Rich Hill 65 89
74 Rick Porcello 70 95
75 Andrew Heaney 77 103
76 John Lamb 99 130
77 Alex Wood 85 110
78 Nate Karns 86 110
79 Jerad Eickhoff 105 133
80 Brett Anderson 67 84
81 Derek Holland 73 90
82 Jimmy Nelson 72 88
83 Mike Leake 80 96
84 Jake Peavy 88 105
85 Kris Medlen 102 120
86 Hector Santiago 101 117
87 Jesse Hahn 87 100
88 Marco Estrada 79 90
89 Trevor Bauer 91 102
90 Rubby de la Rosa 97 108
91 Phil Hughes 81 89
92 Erasmo Ramirez 92 100
93 Chase Anderson 134 144
94 CC Sabathia 121 129
95 Robbie Ray 83 87
96 Edinson Volquez 94 98
97 Kyle Gibson 103 106
98 Matt Moore 90 92
99 Ervin Santana 98 99
100 Nicholas Tropeano 145 145
101 Vincent Velasquez 132 131
102 Chris Bassitt 158 155
103 Henry Owens 146 142
104 Brandon Finnegan 155 149
105 Chris Tillman 110 105
106 Chris Heston 111 105
107 Drew Hutchison 118 110
108 Homer Bailey 125 116
109 Matt Cain 107 98
110 Adam Conley 157 143
111 Wade Miley 84 76
112 Tyler Duffey 147 131
113 Jonathan Gray 113 100
114 Brandon McCarthy 159 139
115 Alex Cobb 116 101
116 Matt Shoemaker 117 101
117 Daniel Norris 112 96
118 Zack Wheeler 115 97
119 Mat Latos 106 89
120 Jeremy Hellickson 93 78
121 Danny Duffy 119 98
122 Jesse Chavez 95 78
123 Roenis Elias 151 123
124 J.A. Happ 82 66
125 Trevor May 154 123
126 Bartolo Colon 114 90
127 Chad Bettis 143 113
128 Jorge de la Rosa 108 84
129 Drew Pomeranz 184 143
130 Yovani Gallardo 96 74
131 C.J. Wilson 100 76
132 Mike Foltynewicz 127 96
133 Lucas Giolito 137 103
134 Jose Berrios 120 90
135 Zachary Davies 177 131
136 Martin Perez 109 80
137 Robbie Erlin 126 92
138 Jarred Cosart 150 109
139 Kendall Graveman 144 104
140 Josh Tomlin 104 74
141 Archie Bradley 175 124
142 Tyler Lyons 185 130
143 Charlie Morton 136 95
144 Tom Koehler 138 96
145 Marco Gonzales 149 103
146 Ubaldo Jimenez 89 61
147 Adam Warren 192 131
148 Taylor Jungmann 135 91
149 Joe Kelly 123 83
150 Tyler Glasnow 167 111
151 Chris Young 133 88
152 Yusmeiro Petit 162 107
153 Shane Greene 174 114
154 Sean Manaea 199 129
155 Matt Boyd 181 117
156 Tanner Roark 163 104
157 Michael Lorenzen 172 110
158 Matthew Wisler 128 81
159 Jon Niese 124 78
160 Jered Weaver 139 87
161 Dylan Bundy 180 112
162 R.A. Dickey 122 75
163 Jameson Taillon 171 105
164 Miguel Gonzalez 148 90
165 Frankie Montas 198 120
166 Jeff Locke 129 78
167 Vidal Nuno 194 116
168 Matt Garza 142 85
169 Tyler Skaggs 140 83
170 Dan Straily 165 97
171 Shaun Marcum 178 104
172 Ryan Weber 200 116
173 David Phelps 160 92
174 Colin Rea 173 99
175 Williams Perez 186 106
176 Henderson Alvarez 188 107
177 Doug Fister 141 80
178 James Paxton 130 73
179 Mark Buehrle 153 85
180 Julio Urias 164 91
181 Kyle Lohse 161 89
182 Jordan Lyles 193 106
183 Wily Peralta 131 72
184 Scott Feldman 169 92
185 Ryan Vogelsong 196 106
186 Alfredo Simon 183 98
187 Aaron Harang 187 100
188 Justin Masterson 189 101
189 Colby Lewis 166 88
190 Tommy Milone 152 80
191 Blake Snell 156 82
192 Ivan Nova 168 88
193 Erik Johnson 170 88
194 Brett Oberholtzer 179 92
195 Ricky Nolasco 182 93
196 Cody Anderson 190 97
197 John Danks 191 97
198 Carlos Frias 195 98
199 Manny Banuelos 197 99
200 Tyler Matzek 200 100
RG RK = RotoGraphs ranks
Diff% = (RGRK – my Rank)*100
(higher means I like them more than consensus)

Here’s a fun thing to do with the ranks. Sort by Diff% (descending) like I said above. You’ll basically get all the guys I like more than consensus. Without really looking at other peoples ranks, I outed my own ‘sleepers.’ It’s full of all the names you’d expect.

I’ll update these again in March, when we know a little bit more about depth charts — after all, there are 70 unsigned free agents that may change things up in the next month. And, hey, since this is the product of my sense of reasoning, I may even listen to your impassioned defense or attack on one player or another in the comments section. Keep it civil, though, I have a three year old at home that yells at me enough for three lifetimes.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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asreitzMember since 2016
10 years ago

Carlos Rodon should be higher. No? Also, I love D. Smyly but a little surprised how high you’ve got him here, especially with the health concerns. Thoughts?

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  asreitz

I don’t think I could push him past Lackey. McCullers and Severino and Matz have shown more complete arsenals and command. So a few higher, but he’s still a guy I love.

I was probably aggressive on Smyly now that you mention it. I guess Shields convinced me that the Rays’ shoulder strengthening routine is the best in the business and I rode that too far.

gus
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

yeah smyly is what stands out most for me as out of line.

Joe Camp
10 years ago

Thank you Eno! Curious to know if/how these ranks would change in buy and hold league (with no waiver wire). Seems like there might be a slight uptick in the 200 innings guys, right?

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  Joe Camp

Dunno. You have to have your upside waiver wire picks on the roster, too….

JP
10 years ago

Please oh please oh please add a league sort so I can ignore all those pesky American League pitchers?

Crash37Member since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  JP

Export to Excel, vlookup, sort. Don’t be lazy.

Floyd
10 years ago

Thanks for this list Eno!
Does your rank of Adam Warren reflect very few expected starts?

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  Floyd

Actually, I really like him. But I couldn’t push him further without taking Hendricks and Hammel down further, so I just reached an equilibrium. There’s some thought that if anyone loses out of the rotation between H and H, it’s Hendricks because he has options.

jim
10 years ago

Surprised at the JA Happ hate, considering his “hidden changes” made after Ray Searage tutelage.

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  jim

Yeah it’s nice to see him throw more of his good pitches and fewer of his bad ones, but he’s going to the better league and a tougher park, and doing that makes him more predictable.

Pr
10 years ago

Am I the only one little worried about Price? Can’t fathom taking him over Arrieta, no?

Pr
10 years ago

Need keeper help. For just this year, who would you rather have. Carrasco or JD Martinez?
Thx

Floyd
10 years ago

Kazmir may be a tad high because he doesn’t always go deep into games?
He averaged 6 IP/start but in 8 starts he didn’t make it through 5 and in another 5 he didn’t make it through six…though he did finish strong and is switching to the NL.
There are several guys after him I prefer but options get dicier after #50 for sure.

Key
10 years ago

I’m surprised you believe in Hahn exactly as much as the rotographs ranking. I thought you’d have him higher because of his changeup. Is your ranking more reflective of health concerns or that is just where you think his talent level is?

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  Key

With the Lamb news today (he might not be ready until April because of his back, which I didn’t even know was a thing), maybe Hahn and Lamb switch spots. But really, I like them both as last pitchers in mixed leagues, and both have health issues now. I was surprised to see others liked Hahn as much as I did, is what happened there. I suppose I could push him ahead of Leake if there was positive spring news about his elbow.

Floyd
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Since Lamb may be behind in Spring Training, it should keep the hype level down and could mean he stays in $1 days for NL leagues (leagues with more than one Eno follower excepted).

Sal
10 years ago

Eno I’ve long been a believer in your “draft two #2s and hope one turns into an ace” strategy to great success these past couple of years (Richards in 2014 and deGrom last year). With the depth of guys we can consider a “fantasy ace” now is it imperative to own one of the top 16-17 guys depending on where your cutoff is? I’ll be going into this years draft with Richards (18th rd.) and Stroman (20th rd.) in my back pocket, should I try and target an ace in say round 3 or are you comfortable enough with those 2 in order to go bat in my first 5-6 rounds before grabbing a 3rd pitcher?

Ryan BrockMember since 2025
10 years ago

I think based on shear # of innings and K-rate, Hutchison has gotta be higher. Similar argument for Dickey, too.

Joey Baseball
10 years ago

Great stuff Eno!

Eickhoff, Conley, Tropeano all look to be in their rotations (or pitching very meaningful relief innings) given their rankings.

Tropeano looks to be the biggest longshot at this point. Assuming pitchers being pitchers and getting injured there?

Eickhoff and Conley projecting more innings and good arsenals?

Joey Baseball
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

I just have a hard time seeing them give up on Weaver as he’s due $38 million over the next two years.

Chuck
10 years ago

What are your thoughts on Robbie Ray? He is lower on your list than I would expect.

aggies43080
10 years ago

Surprised to see Harvey and DeGromm over Kluber. Both Harvey and Degromm have gotten very lucky in their LOB numbers since coming up. Actually think Syndergaard ends up being the best pitcher on the Mets staff in 2016. Would love to hear your reasoning for having Darvish so low. In his 3 years in MLB, including a shortened 2014, he was 9th in WAR, 1st in k%, 6th in k/bb%, 8th in xFIP, and 9th in SIERA. Really curious to know how you have a guy who clearly showed he was a top 10 pitcher in baseball not only outside the top 30 but behind guys like Smyly, Iglesias, Ventura, and Stroman.

aggies43080
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

I mean Stroman is going to be a really good pitcher, at least I think he will. Iglesias has potential to be good. Ventura has far to erratic last year, although he did have a good postseason. Smyly also coming back from injury and shoulder problems generally scare me more than TJ as there seems to more predictable results from TJ recovery in recent years. Rangers saying they expect Darvish back in the majors by mid may. Don’t get me wrong though I love the list and am very grateful you put it together for us.

bbboston
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Eno;

Love your list and have two comments/qs:
1) For more accurate estimations of value, why don’t you add back replacement innings to Yu Darvish’s innings list – MR for 15+ innings.
2) In your mind, is Severino a likely future “ace” or just a solid number two? What needs to happen for him to take the next step. Clearly, he thinks he’s ready to take that next step

CK
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Why so low on Kluber? Steamer’s projections for him look extremely solid, especially K/BB.

CK
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Well, looking at it again, I suppose the 12th pitcher isn’t exactly “so low”. I just saw him at the bottom of the % diff list.

josephd10
10 years ago

I didn’t see Brandon Maurer’s name on the list. What are your thoughts on him if he sticks as a starter?

Floyd
10 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

There are guys with a wide range of outcomes around the 115 tier. I like Maurer but wonder if he will ultimately replace Rodney as closer (or set-up if not) rather than stick in the rotation. Spring outings will tell us about his role if not his stamina should he emerge from ST in the rotation.

yahmule
10 years ago

It seems like Jordan Zimmermann is pretty low after one off season that seemed to be mostly caused by bad luck.

daloiz88
10 years ago

Can you comment on why you have Liriano a handful of spots below the rotographs consensus? Something about him specifically or did you just like a few other guys more?

Paul H.
10 years ago

Eno – curious why you are low on Tyson Ross. In an article you wrote about his walk rate last year you commented that “a new pitch is the easiest remedy for this particular problem.” From Brooks it looks like shortly after the article he added a cutter to his arsenal which generated good whiff / GB rates. Seems like he trusted it more as the year went along as well. Based on your rankings of him it looks like you don’t have a lot of faith in the addition of that pitch.

Brian
10 years ago

What am I missing about Wacha that you like so much? Aside from inducing more ground balls, it seems he is just in a general decline?

asreitzMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Brian

General decline? He’s 24. I imagine it’s just the workload. Been great 2 straight years, just wore down the last month or so. I think he only gets stronger.

Brian
10 years ago
Reply to  asreitz

Are you saying he didn’t decline the past two years or that you’re just chalking it up to the increased workload?

CooWinnebago
10 years ago
Reply to  asreitz

Usually when we talk about decline its age related. All things being equal, at 24 Wacha would not be in the decline phase of his career.

Paul SporerFanGraphs Staff
10 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Decline how? From his 2013? That shouldn’t be the standard, it was 65 innings and some of it was in relief. He had a strong 19 starts in ’14 before the shoulder injury and returned with almost the same exact numbers in ’15, but this time for a full season. The September slowdown looked like classic young arm fatiguing under the weight of his first 30+ start season. Lots to like with Wacha. Good even if he stays at this level, but also has real upside.

Will
10 years ago

Eno will Sonny Gray continue to outperform his peripherals or will this be year he posts a 3.50+ ERA?

kb
10 years ago

Any IP limits for Thor this year? Pitch in H2H playoffs?

RDB
10 years ago

In NL only league. Like Iglesias and DeSclafani. You seem to as well. Do you see them getting close to 200 innings? Maybe Iglesias on on a limit?

THOR
10 years ago

Hey Eno, where’s Allen Webster???????

Pirates Hurdles
10 years ago
Reply to  THOR

Playing overseas this year

Only Glove, No Love
10 years ago

Greinke? You dare to defy xFIP etc? Enjoy being shunned by the cool kids.

Shawn
10 years ago

Was hoping to see Odorizzi a bit higher here. His decline in K% in part due to his scrapping of the slide piece and less FB in return yielding more GB seems like a solid means toward progression. If he can put last years effort together with some better sequencing in K counts he could take another (possible giant) leap forward in his age 26 season, no?

cdarcyMember since 2016
10 years ago

Eno,

Do you have any injury concerns about Tyson Ross and Chris Archer due to their high slider usage?

Ian
10 years ago

You may want to change the title to STARTING PITCHING RANKS

Malfromage
10 years ago

Hey Eno,

Fair to say that your relative dislike of J Fern ( %) and Stroman (91%) is about IP limitations after injury, and in Stroman’s case, diminished K/9?

Also, recently had “Lunch” by accident at Flatbread Pizza Portland ME.

Thanks!

RainmakerMember since 2016
10 years ago

I thought you’d be higher on Eovaldi? You don’t think his “Change” with the Split usage is going to make that big of a difference?

His 2nd half FIP of 3.10 puts him in the Top 25 SPs in the league….surely he should be higher than #70 in your rankings

Capt. Clutch
10 years ago

Hey Eno! Just wondering your reasons for having Odorizzi so much lower than consensus? His changeup/splitter is filthy.

CE
10 years ago

Again, sorry to spam this comment, but noticed it wasn’t on the correct discussion:

Where do you guys stand on some of these young pitchers? How would you rank these guys in a dynasty league?

Severino, Giolito, Matz, Glasnow, Nola, McCullers, Gray, Norris.

Also, Stroman is available. Should he be targeted along with / ahead of those rookie pitchers above?

CE
10 years ago
Reply to  CE

Rasiel Iglesias is available as well. Wondering how you’d rank these guys in a dynasty league. I have the #1 overall pick in our draft and am looking for a long-term impact pitcher.

Bbboston
10 years ago

Severino:

His fastball jumps at batters….. What does his spin rate look like?

Rusty
10 years ago

Not to be too nit-picky, but Shaun Marcum recently retired, fyi.

Jason
10 years ago

Eno, thanks! On your podcast, you mention Tier 3 being the most interesting. Can you clarify where you see your tiers beginning and ending on your list?

Pretty Tony
10 years ago

this article has 69 comments

Michael Roye
10 years ago

Just a quick correction (totally minor but since you reference it should make sense): For how you are calculating “difference %,” it’s not (RG – your rank)*100 but rather (RG / your rank)*100.

Good stuff!!