Taylor Jordan: Sleeper Deluxe
There’s an intriguing battle taking place on the Nationals between two rather similar pitchers. Both Taylor Jordan and Tanner Roark debuted in Washington last year and impressed. Though Roark did post a sparkling ERA, neither one of them is getting a whole lot of preseason fanfare, perhaps because their strikeout rates don’t wow us. But the winner of this battle is likely to be a strong source of profit in NL-Only leagues, while offering the potential for mixed league value.
Since Roark outperformed Jordan in terms of surface results, he’s a little more well known at this point. But Jordan may actually be a bit more exciting and certainly more undervalued. You see, Jordan only posted a 13.2% strikeout rate over his medium sized cup of coffee with the Nats. Although it wasn’t low enough to prevent him from being an effective real life pitcher, it severely reduced his fantasy value. But wait…there’s more!
Though you would have never guessed it from his strikeout rate, Jordan actually generated a 10.2% SwStk%, well above the league average. Both his slider and changeup were positively fantastic, both inducing swinging strikes 21% of the time. Not only did the two pitches induces lots of whiffs, but they also both proved to be a worm’s worst enemy. Both pitches resulted in grounders over 50% of the time.
So if Jordan threw pitches that were mightily effective, how was his strikeout rate so low you are no doubt wondering. Well, if you remember my expected K% formula, you’ll recall that a pitcher’s strikeout rate could be estimated by using a combination of his swinging strikes, as well as his called and foul strikes. Because the slider and changeup are both swing and miss pitches that don’t induce many called strikes, his looking strike rate was well below the league average. His foul strike percentage was as well.
And although all three strike types are indeed a skill and have reasonable YoY correlations, the looking and foul varieties are lower. You have to imagine that one or both of Jordan’s called and foul strike rates will jump this year closer to the league average, even if he flashes the same pitch mix. As a result, his strikeout rate could spike, perhaps significantly. It’s somewhat shocking to see the Oliver and ZiPS projections calling for an even lower K/9, especially since he he has posted better strikeout rates in the minors. I’d bet my life on the over.
Aside from the promise of a strikeout rate surge, he possesses pinpoint control as well. But you wouldn’t know that by just looking at his F-Strike%, which is actually below the league average. This is why it’s important to also look at a pitcher’s overall strike percentage, found on the same page as his looking and foul strike rates. Jordan’s strike percentage was an impressive 66%, which would have ranked him 29th among all Major League starters.
If that wasn’t enough, I mentioned earlier that he is a worm’s worst nightmare. He posted an exhilarating ground ball rate near 58%, which would have ranked him second among all starters had he qualified. So he has nearly the skills trifecta, just missing on strikeouts, which I expect him to vastly improve upon this year.
The remaining obstacle is to actually win a rotation spot of course. But even if he doesn’t, every rotation goes more than five starters deep throughout the year and he should be the first replacement. He should record at least 100 innings while earning value in both ERA and WHIP and adding a respectable strikeout total.
Mike Podhorzer is the founder of ProjectingX IQ, an advanced fantasy baseball analytics platform that transforms projection data and in-season performance signals into actionable intelligence. He is the 2015 Fantasy Sports Writers Association Baseball Writer of the Year and three-time Tout Wars champion. He is the author of the eBook Projecting X 2.0: How to Forecast Baseball Player Performance, which teaches you how to project players yourself. Follow Mike on X@MikePodhorzer and contact him via email.
don’t bet your life…so, if you had to pick ’em between drew Hutchison and taylor Jordan in a standard 12-team as a 6th starter whom do you select? There are so many interesting players, and so few roster slots…….
I’m buying on Jordan. I’ve watched some Nats spring training games and that change up has been sick.
I’d take him over Hutchison for a simple reason: Nats home park has ranked in the bottom 10 for HRs yielded by park factors, Jordan is already a GB pitcher, and he’ll be facing some weak lineups often when pitching against the Marlins, Mets and Phillies.
Hutchison will be pitching in the AL East, which has several parks that aren’t friendly to pitchers, including Toronto.
Good comparison. Obviously heavily depends on whether Jordan wins a rotation spot. Assuming he does, he’s a little safer than hutch but I think Hutch has more upside. In a shallow league, give me the upside so I lean toward Hutchison.
Seconded. It all depends on your desired risk exposure.
I should add that from a projection standpoint, Jordan would be more valuable, but Hutch has the greater range of possible outcomes which I favor in shallow leagues.
Hutchison is an AL pitcher in a tough park and division. I usually lean to the NL pitcher in a good park.
thanks very much for all the input. that helps tremendously. i like sick changes and didn’t even think about the NL Least……that’s great
I get the argument, but considering he’s got a K/9 in the 7’s through A and AA, I just can’t see him turning into a real strikeout pitcher at this point. I’d see him more comping to Scott Baker, average Ks, low BBs, good ERA, with the occasional game where he gets torched — and the torching coming as the result of staying around the plate too much.
Just looking at his spring performance, he’s given up a lot of hits and I’m worried that could be a troublesome trend going forward. Whereas Hutchison for example has had better K rates this spring and a lower AVG against, signaling both good strikeout stuff and weak contact.
Arizona isn’t to be trusted, harder ground, lighter air, mixed talent defense.
um, neither the nats nor the jays play spring ball in az.
Would you take Jordan over Mejia, Kelly, or Ja. Turner at the back end of my NL-only rotation?
Yes, certainly over Kelly and Turner even if he loses out on a spot initially to Roark. But between Mejia and Jordan, depends on who wins a spot. If both, I like Mejia better, though Jordan is a better bet for more innings.
I knew you ruled.
I loved reading this one, as I am a big fan of Jordan!!
Andrea
Of these FA arms in a deep redraft, mixed league 14 teamer 5×5, how would you rank them?
Jordan, Mejia, Erlin, Skaggs, Delgado, Ross, Carrasco?
Jordan and Mejia’s value hinges on whether they win rotation spots. So I’ll assume they do to make the rankings easier.
Mejia
Ross
Jordan
Skaggs
Carrasco
Delgado
Erlin
But, Carlos Carrasco could win the Cy Young 🙂
Thanks – helpful.
Ive been trying to find a place where spring pitches/ velocities are being tracked. I think its interesting in younger SP especially… Guys like Skaggs, for example, if he’s added 2-3 mph on his Fourseam become a little more intriguing to me. Usually read RotoGraphs and analyze Brooks Baseball in-seaon– but do you have any other resources for this in pre-season?
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/velo.php?player=572140&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=03/26/2014&s_type=2
Thanks
Jeff Zimmerman has been tweeted out spring velocities every so often twitter.com/jeffwzimmerman
So definitely Taylor Jordan over Erik Johnson, right? E. Johnson over Joe Kelly?
Taylor Jordan looks a lot like Charlie Morton to me. I think that’s a reasonable comparison fantasy wise. They throw different pitches, sure, but age aside, Jordan can be what Morton was for the Pirates in 2013.
Do you see Jordan significantly beating the marks Morton set last year?
3.26 ERA
1.28 WHIP
6.59 K/9
7 Wins
If he stays healthy and the Nationals do what they’re projected to do, he’ll have a chance to double the wins. But what about the rate stats? Jordan is a ground ball pitcher, so his K/9 and WHIP will never be excellent. Using Morton’s 2013 as a baseline, which of those three rate stats will Jordan blow away in his push to fantasy relevancy?
I don’t see any reason to be excited here in fantasy. Morton is a good pitcher in real life, but replacement level in fantasy. In fact, I hope my opponents roster and start the Charlie Mortons of the world. Makes my job easier.
There’s a slim chance Jordan goes 2013 Justin Masterson on the league and realizes every bit of his potential. It’s possible, but I haven’t seen anything in Jordan to suggest that will happen any time soon.
I think too that it might also be a matter of learning how to mix up and use his pitches. The very high SwSt% on that changeup and slider indicates a potential.
And did someone really say that a groundball pitcher will “NEVER” have an excellent Strikeout and WHIP rate? Hmmm. AJ Burnett. David Cone. Ron Guidry.
The control is there already. The 20:2 K per Walk rate in 20 spring training innings is a good sign. And even though he gave up 24 hits, none of them were home runs. Probably 6 of those hits could have just been poor Spring training fielding.
Part of getting strikeouts is not just in having incredible stuff, but also learning how to use it. The strikeout rate is just as much a function of deception as it is raw power.
Tanner O’Roark is a good pitcher too. One of them will probably step up.