Steamer and I: Michael Conforto

Welcome to the return of the Steamer and I series. I debuted Steamer and I last year and have decided to bring it back for an encore performance. In the series, I pit my Pod Projection against Steamer, comparing wOBA forecasts for hitters and ERA for pitchers. I’ll choose several fantasy relevant players to discuss on each end of the spectrum – those I am far more optimistic on and those I am more bearish on.

Today, I’ll begin the series with Michael Conforto, who enjoyed an impressive debut with the Mets last year, despite skipping Triple-A. Compared to Steamer, I am quite bullish, though unsurprisingly, still not as optimistic as the Fans!

Conforto was actually not the player I was most bullish on compared with Steamer. That honor goes to Corey Seager, but since I already shared my detailed Pod Projection with you last week, I’m not going to repeat myself.

For our projection comparison, all 2015 and Steamer counting stats have been extrapolated to the same number of plate appearances I forecasted.

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Steamer vs Pod: Michael Conforto
System PA 2B 3B HR BB% K% AVG OBP SLG ISO wOBA BABIP
2015 544 39 0 25 8.8% 20.1% 0.270 0.335 0.506 0.236 0.359 0.297
Pod 544 32 1 20 9.4% 19.5% 0.273 0.343 0.465 0.192 0.349 0.310
Steamer 544 27 2 19 7.7% 18.8% 0.260 0.321 0.435 0.176 0.326 0.290

So I’m projecting Conforto to post a wOBA 0.023 points higher than Steamer is, which is pretty significant from a projection standpoint. First, it’s worth noting that both Steamer and I are forecasting regression from last year. That’s primarily driven by a sharp decline in power, as Conforto’s ISO during his short time with the Mets was far above anything he has posted in the minors. It’s not often you see a hitter skip Triple-A and then go on to display even more power immediately after he reaches the Majors.

Beginning from the left, we find that although Steamer and I are both expecting a dip in doubles rate, Steamer is projecting a much larger drop than I am. Here are Conforto’s historical and projected AB/2B rates:

Steamer vs Pod: Michael Conforto Doubles Rates
Season Team/System AB 2B AB/2B
2014 Mets (A-) 163 10 16.3
2015 Mets (A+) 184 12 15.3
2015 Mets (AA) 173 12 14.4
2015 Mets 174 14 12.4
2016 Pod Projection 485 32 15.2
2016 Steamer Projection 491 27 18.3

Doubles rates don’t seem to decline significantly when transitioning from the minors to the Majors. At least not as much as home run power sometimes does for young players. So I’m surprised by Steamer’s serious bearish doubles projection here. It’s the main reason why the system’s ISO projection is lower than mine.

The difference in our triples projection is negligible, as is our home runs. Conforto somehow managed to vastly outperform his xHR/FB rate of 11.3% by posting an actual mark of 17%. What kept his xHR/FB rate so mediocre was a ridiculously low standard deviation of distance (SDD). While I do expect that to jump, I still forecasted a decline in HR/FB rate to just 13.5%. Though I don’t know what kind of fly ball rate Steamer projects, a similar home run total suggests a similar HR/FB rate forecast.

Moving along to walk and strikeout rate projections, we find our next big clue. Check out the gap in walk rate! That’s pretty large. The calculus for my bullish forecast was thus — Conforto posted a well below league average O-Swing%, as well as Swing%. So, he didn’t swing at pitches outside the zone and also swung less frequently at all pitches. Swinging less = more walks. I think it suggests a bit better than the 8.8% walk rate he posted with the Mets. He also posted an 11.7% mark in Double-A, so he’s clearly capable of displaying strong plate patience.

Steamer is slightly more optimistic than I am in Conforto’s ability to cut down on his strikeout rate. It’s actually projecting a mark just above his Double-A mark, which surprises me, since it’s even more bullish than the Fans! Conforto did swing and miss less often than the league average, but since he also swings less often, he’s going to still strike out at a league average clip or close to it.

We already touched on the ISO discrepancy, so the last piece is BABIP. It’s toughest with young players with a limited track record and Steamer typically plays it safe. In two of Conforto’s three minor league stints, he posted BABIP marks of at least .368. As I’ve said many times in the past, in my experience forecasting players, guys with high minor league BABIPs tend to post higher Major League BABIPs than guys with lower minor league BABIPs.

Conforto’s 174 at-bats represent a small sample, but it’s still worth checking in on his batted ball data and how they should effect BABIP. He posted an above average LD% and identical ground ball and fly ball rates. The line drive rate is good, but he also posted an inflated IFFB%, which is going to cancel out some of the positives from the liners. He also pulled the ball frequently, rarely going to the opposite field. But, he hit the ball hard about 41% of the time, which is fantastic.

All in all, I see the potential for a respectable BABIP, though certainly not a massively inflated one like he posted in the minors. But it’s still too small a sample to draw many conclusions from. Yet, I can’t see forecasting a below league average BABIP like Steamer and believe that my projection is far more fair, given his healthy minor league track record for the metric.

Although I’m more bullish than Steamer, I still don’t see great fantasy potential here this season. He figures to open the season hitting seventh in the Mets lineup, which is a bad spot, and will probably platoon with Juan Lagares, as he sits against lefties. He’s going 52nd among outfielders in NFBC and I prefer several names going after him.





Mike Podhorzer is the founder of ProjectingX IQ, an advanced fantasy baseball analytics platform that transforms projection data and in-season performance signals into actionable intelligence. He is the 2015 Fantasy Sports Writers Association Baseball Writer of the Year and three-time Tout Wars champion. He is the author of the eBook Projecting X 2.0: How to Forecast Baseball Player Performance, which teaches you how to project players yourself. Follow Mike on X@MikePodhorzer and contact him via email.

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MustBunique
10 years ago

Good stuff as always Pod. I agree that looking at the MiLB numbers, I would expect the power numbers to decline a bit. One thing that leaves me torn on his power is that he had the third highest average exit velocity behind Giancarlo and Sano, ahead of Miggy, Batflips, and Goldy. How do you factor that in, especially when his minor league numbers tell you a different story?

MustBunique
10 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

Makes sense. On the PT front, he has to get time over Lagares, right? If you’re the Mets, you don’t skip a guy over AAA to ride pine.

senor_mike
10 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

Educated guessing in Met-land is that when a lefty is on the mound Lagares will certainly be starting, with RF time being split half-way between both Conforto and Granderson.

The thought being that since Grandy struggled vs lefties last year anyway, you may as well use it as an opportunity to get Conforto more LHP exposure/development without any performance sacrifice.

Cory Settoon
10 years ago

Seems like Conforto could have some batting average upside compared to the projections. He’s had pretty high BABIP’s in the minors (even though that’s been with sub 600 AB’s).

Love getting him later in drafts as my 4-5 OFer.

OutOfTheBox
10 years ago

Being from NY, I am used to the Yankees and Mets always being overdrafted and the first off of the waiver wire. Safe to say I will not be getting him.

E-manMember since 2017
10 years ago

So, who’d you rather have – Conforto, Piscotty, Buxton, or Pederson?

bartelsjason
10 years ago

Could it be possible that guys who come up and hit better in the majors is due to them having more information on the pitchers they are facing, as where in the minors they are basically just going up there and hitting what they see with less information?

I remember that Conforto mentioning how excited he was to have so much information at his hands to go over and help him, so it seems like he might be one of those guys that would benefit with the opportunity to do more homework.

E-manMember since 2017
10 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

One could see Conforto as a kid who came up and gave it the old Matt Stairs “swinging as hard as I can every time I swing” approach, and that working real well for a while… but this year he will have to make adjustments.

When you look at Hanley’s April, or Jason Werth’s August, it seems that hitters can get into a zone for a while, but can’t stay there forever. It also seems like players get hurt, say nothing, but it shows up in their exit velocity.

Thoughts?

senor_mike
10 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

@E-man

It is always a possibility of course, but one aspect that makes me very optimistic for Conforto’s ability to adjust is how tough he was pitched last year. Within the very first #1 he was being pitched to as if he was a MLB veteran, something the Met broadcasting team pointed out early and seemed passed the eye test as I began watching for it.

First it was breaking stuff low/away, hard stuff up/in to see if he could handle that, he did. Then he started getting breaing stuff low/in and and heat up/away-ish, and he was able to handle that too. And whenever it seemed he encountered a pitcher that was clearly staying away from the middle of his plate, he would always seem to work out a 5+ pitch PA, to the point that you could see the opposing pitchers getting visible uncomfortable on the mound.

Maybe it was all as simple as the fact that he batted 7th in the order so much and was intentionally getting junk because of it, but still I am used to rookies getting a steady diet of fastballs from pitchers for the first 75-100 PAs or so, and that just did not happen with him.

Long story short, he was constantly adjusting last year and every time he did he was met with relative success so it appears like it may be a genuine skill for him.

senor_mike
10 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

“Within the very first #1”

Should have read
“Within the very first week”

mohawkwarriorMember since 2023
10 years ago

I’d like to add something to the discussion:

Part of the explanation for Conforto outperforming his minor league rates is that the vast majority of his MLB PAs were against righties. He barely faced lefties at all. While it is true that he was decent against lefties in the minors (.802 ops according to Minor League Central), he has always been much better against righties, as most lefty hitters are.

Thus his MLB numbers/rates may seem a bit inflated. But if you choose to only start him against righties this year, as I plan to do, I think a success rate similar to 2015 is a reasonable expectation.