Starting Pitcher ERA-SIERA Gaps: Potential ERA Regressers
Yesterday, I listed the 20 pitchers with the largest gaps between their ERA and SIERA marks, with their ERA marks sitting significantly higher than their SIERA marks, suggesting serious potential for improvement moving forward. Today, I’ll list the pitchers on the other side of the coin, the 20 with ERA marks significantly lower than their SIERA marks, suggesting real potential for ERA regression.
| Name | K% | BB% | BABIP | HR/FB | LOB% | ERA | SIERA | ERA – SIERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Cashner | 11.2% | 10.5% | 0.293 | 7.1% | 77.3% | 3.50 | 5.77 | -2.27 |
| Jason Vargas | 18.5% | 5.3% | 0.284 | 6.6% | 85.9% | 2.29 | 4.53 | -2.24 |
| Jose Urena | 14.7% | 9.0% | 0.245 | 10.5% | 81.5% | 3.33 | 5.30 | -1.97 |
| Ervin Santana | 19.1% | 8.5% | 0.208 | 12.2% | 86.2% | 2.80 | 4.75 | -1.95 |
| Gio Gonzalez | 22.3% | 10.2% | 0.268 | 13.0% | 84.5% | 2.96 | 4.56 | -1.60 |
| Mike Pelfrey | 15.0% | 10.0% | 0.250 | 10.8% | 73.8% | 3.73 | 5.32 | -1.59 |
| Dallas Keuchel | 24.4% | 6.4% | 0.222 | 17.1% | 88.7% | 1.67 | 3.11 | -1.44 |
| Ivan Nova | 14.4% | 2.7% | 0.274 | 12.0% | 78.1% | 3.06 | 4.37 | -1.31 |
| Danny Duffy | 18.8% | 8.7% | 0.322 | 5.1% | 76.6% | 3.54 | 4.83 | -1.29 |
| Dylan Bundy | 18.2% | 8.2% | 0.264 | 11.3% | 79.8% | 3.73 | 5.00 | -1.27 |
| Chase Anderson | 23.3% | 7.5% | 0.274 | 7.9% | 78.7% | 2.92 | 4.17 | -1.25 |
| Kyle Freeland | 13.8% | 9.1% | 0.299 | 13.0% | 78.4% | 3.70 | 4.93 | -1.23 |
| Jeremy Hellickson | 11.8% | 6.6% | 0.249 | 12.6% | 74.5% | 4.40 | 5.57 | -1.17 |
| Brandon McCarthy | 19.7% | 6.9% | 0.271 | 5.9% | 72.0% | 3.25 | 4.40 | -1.15 |
| Michael Fulmer | 18.6% | 6.3% | 0.287 | 4.9% | 71.4% | 3.29 | 4.29 | -1.00 |
| Edinson Volquez | 21.4% | 13.8% | 0.282 | 9.9% | 71.9% | 4.15 | 5.11 | -0.96 |
| Mike Leake | 17.2% | 5.1% | 0.264 | 12.5% | 76.0% | 3.12 | 4.06 | -0.94 |
| Ariel Miranda | 18.4% | 8.7% | 0.226 | 13.4% | 80.4% | 4.11 | 5.04 | -0.93 |
| CC Sabathia | 19.7% | 7.6% | 0.281 | 13.4% | 77.0% | 3.46 | 4.37 | -0.91 |
| Robbie Ray | 30.9% | 11.2% | 0.268 | 12.2% | 84.0% | 2.87 | 3.77 | -0.90 |
Amazingly, only two of the 20 have SIERA marks below 4.00. So that means that the majority of these pitchers might go from valuable fantasy starters to absolutely unusable in a hurry. This is unlike someone who just missed the cut like Alex Wood, whose SIERA, while 0.83 higher than his ERA, still sits at an elite 2.69. Sure, we figure his ERA will rise, but daaaaamn he’s been awesome.
Who would have guessed that at this point in the season, Andrew Cashner of all pitchers would be leading in ERA-SIERA gap?! Heading into the season, his career ERA stood at 3.89, versus a 3.96 SIERA, suggesting he never owned any sort of ability to outperform his peripherals. This season, he hasn’t relied on any one luck indicator, but rather a bit of all three. It blows my mind that he’s struck out just two more batters than he has walked, and yet his ERA is a tidy 3.50.
There’s no doubt that Jason Vargas is getting help from the always sterling Royals defense, but this is actually more about his amazing ability to suppress homers on fly balls and strand baserunners. Over the year, he has shown the skills to keep his fly balls in the park somehow, but that LOB% has no chance of remaining this high. While he will undoubtedly beat his SIERA, that doesn’t mean he’s going to remain a 12-team mixed league asset the rest of the way. I’d personally bet against.
So maybe Ervin Santana’s .208 BABIP isn’t 100% luck, as he has posted the fourth lowest line drive rate in baseball. But at age 34, with the same pitch mix and same velocity, what are the odds he suddenly discovered the secret to preventing line drives from being hit at a league average clip? This is the same pitcher he has always been, but now with more fly balls, which means more homers. I wouldn’t trade very many pitchers for him.
It amused me to see Mike Pelfrey added in both my AL Tout Wars and mixed LABR leagues in recent weeks as it immediately tells me that the owner looks solely at ERA and completely ignores the underlying skills. These are actually the second worst set of skills Pelfrey has ever posted says SIERA, and the ERA is being driven entirely by a career low BABIP.
So much for the first full season in the National League bumping up Ivan Nova’s strikeout rate! Amazingly, it’s actually at its lowest mark since 2011 (excluding his shortened 2014 season). Sure, he has offset the lack of punchouts with sterling control, but that’s not a tradeoff I’d want to see as a fantasy owner. It looks like it’s working now, but that’s all because of a career low BABIP and the second highest LOB% of his career. Given his success when he came to the Bucs last year, he should be an easy guy to sell high on.
Wow, I had no idea Dylan Bundy’s skills were so bad that they fueled a SIERA of 5.00! While his batted ball profile heavy on fly balls and pop-ups suggests he’ll post a better than average BABIP, the Orioles defense has been below average, offsetting some of that. His SwStk% has barely budged, but his strikeout rate has collapsed. It’s due to small declines in his strike percentage, swinging strike and foul strike rates. The big decline in velocity versus last year is another big red flag. I’m waiting for a good time to sell high here.
This might look like a Chase Anderson breakout, but SIERA disagrees. While his strikeout rate is up, his fly ball rate is in dangerous territory, especially given the homer happy league. But despite playing in a hitter friendly home venue, that hasn’t hurt him yet thanks to a suppressed HR/FB rate. He’s never shown any such ability to keep that well below league average, so expect those fly balls to start heading over the wall.
This is now the second season in a row that Michael Fulmer is significantly outperforming his SIERA, and by nearly the same amount. He’s doing it differently though, as this year he’s keeping his fly balls in the park, whereas last year it was a suppressed BABIP and inflated LOB%. This suggests that there’s no magical abilities here that SIERA is missing, but he just keeps getting fortunate in different aspects of the game. He’s a nice sell high in a keeper league where an owner might believe they are acquiring an ace.
Well how do you like them apples? Robbie Ray goes from underperforming his SIERA by 1.31 last year to outperforming it by 0.90 this season. His underlying skills package is largely the same though, with the only difference coming in the luck metrics of course. Amazingly, despite posting the second highest Hard% in baseball, his BABIP has tumbled well below the league average, and dropping from an absurd .352 last year. And then he’s stranding everyone, when he’s never shown such ability in the past. So basically, this is the same pitcher, but he’s a perfect example of why over one season, SIERA has far more predictive value for year two than ERA does.
Mike Podhorzer is the founder of ProjectingX IQ, an advanced fantasy baseball analytics platform that transforms projection data and in-season performance signals into actionable intelligence. He is the 2015 Fantasy Sports Writers Association Baseball Writer of the Year and three-time Tout Wars champion. He is the author of the eBook Projecting X 2.0: How to Forecast Baseball Player Performance, which teaches you how to project players yourself. Follow Mike on X@MikePodhorzer and contact him via email.
Realistic sell high candidates to target if shopping Fulmer in a dynasty?
Oh, sorry guys. I wasn’t aware asking a broad fantasy-related question directly connected to content in the article was frowned upon….
I disagree on Fulmer. He has three good pitches. Fulmer’s FIP is 3.08. Moreover, Fulmer has shown good control and ability to get ahead in the count. Couple that in with a high amount of popups and an above average GB rate, I think Fulmer can continue to be a good fantasy pitcher. Given his stuff, there’s likely some additional strikeout potential as well.
Of course his FIP is only 3.08, that’s because his HR/FB rate is only 4.9%! That’s why SIERA is far more predictive. FIP should not be used for forward-looking performance expectations.
Robbie Ray is a much better pitcher than last year, especially now that he’s developed his curveball on the fly, mid-season. I understand what SIERA is just saying, just not agreeing with the “same pitcher as least season” narrative.
So are you saying that the curve ball is now allowing his balls in play to find gloves and get converted into outs more often? The pitch needs to directly influence one of the luck indicators that killed his ERA last year, since his peripherals are similar. So the argument sounds like it has been, and will continue to be, a low BABIP pitch.
I just ran my pERA (ERA based on per pitch result) on Ray to see if the GB from the curve and high FB rate from 4-seamer and slider would lead to a lower ERA.
pERA = 3.79
Right there with his SIERA
Rays issues are a 4.1 BB/9. This will catch up with him.
Also, his stats include his early use of the Sinker which he has dropped.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/outcome.php?player=592662&b_hand=-1&time=month&minmax=ci&var=pcount&s_type=2&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&startDate=01/01/2017&endDate=01/01/2018
It is a horrible pitch. Just look around:
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=11486&position=P
He may be able suppress his SIERA some if he throws just the three pitches but it’s not going to be at a one ERA level. Probably closer to 0.25.
I’m not disagreeing with what SIERA is saying. I’m disagreeing with the statement that he hasn’t change. You mention his walk numbers but Mike never mentions his 2.9% in K%. Also, I think his BB/9 are skewed. It spiked hard early in the season:
http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=11486&legend=1&statArr=121&time=game&split=base&ymin=&ymax=&start=2015&end=2017&rtype=mult>1=15
Meanwhile, his walk totals have been significantly better since mid-May, and this correlates with a steady increase in curveball usage. Furthermore, the cuveball has great batted ball results (.186 BA, .017 ISO, .286 BABIP) so not only does the pitch help him with his walk numbers, it also helps him with his BABIP and hard-hit issues.
Ray is noticeably different than last year. Dropping the sinking and adding a curveball are having very real benefits. It may not change SIERA/pERA as much as we’d like (at least until his command consistently improves), but he’s definitely a different pitcher from last year.
His swstr% and contact% metrics have noticeably improved, indicating a correlation with the increase in curve ball usage… Perhaps the soft/med/hard contact numbers will follow or perhaps his k% was lucky last year or will increase going forward…
The curveball has had fantastic ball-in-play results so far. .186 BAA, .017 ISO. But beyond that, there is another huge benefit from his curveball.
His slider has one of the absolute worst called-strike rates in the game. If batters weren’t swinging, he wasn’t getting strikes. This led to him falling behind batters and walking guys. Meanwhile, his curveball was up among the top 5 in called-strike rates while also having a top 5 whiff rate. That was when I wrote him up two weeks ago.
Per Baseball Savant, Ray’s xwOBA is .297 vs an actual .283 so he’s been a little lucky, but not that lucky.
Wow, that’s interesting about Robbie Ray — so Porcello has the highest Hard% in baseball, and is underperforming his ERA, whereas Robbie has a super low BABIP and is overperforming his ERA at the second-highest Hard%.
I mean you should analyze the difference right there — is this a perfect example of luck coming into play? Or is there something about the way Ray pitches that allows him to let up Hard% contact successfully, compared to Porcello who does it unsuccessfully?
Ray strikes out 9% more batters (30% to 21%) than Porcello, Im assuming just allowing less contact in general lets him get away with more.
I think the point is the difference in BABIP, the strikeout rate difference is irrelevant.
So there aren’t any pitchers on that list who you would expect to continue posting very low ERA-SIERAs?
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I sold bundy and conforto a week ago and got back sonny gray (12 team mixed 5×5) largely on this sites skepticisim of Bundy’s true underlying skill.
Feeling pretty good about this one
Thanks Mike
Who on Earth thinks Fulmer is an ace? He’s barely an SP3.