Slider Effectiveness & Spin: Unexpected Results

I heard in passing from a credible source:

“The effectiveness of a pitcher’s slider relies on it having the same spin as his fastball.”

I figured it would be an easy test and could help to immediately identify top-rated sliders. After looking at the data every conceivable way and came up with the following conclusion: publicly available spin information has near ZERO correlation to a slider’s effectiveness. But while rooting around, I did find two factors which do matter, fastball velocity and the difference in slider and fastball velocity.

The theory behind the quote is that a hitter has a tougher time differentiating a fastball and slider if they are spinning at the same rate. So, the closer the difference, a higher chance for a swing-and-miss.

I compared 2018 pitchers with at least 200 sliders and 200 four-seamers thrown. Then, I compared just the difference, the absolute value of the difference, square of difference. Nothing tangible. Nothing matched.

It just might be something I’m missing with an input. For example, a factor I don’t have available is the spin axis, so I don’t know how much the spin is working vertically and horizontally. This information is not publicly available but could be a major input.

Then I began to add in other factors to see if it was a combination of slider spin and pitch velocity. Zip.

Finally, I added in fastball velocity. First, slider velocity and swinging-strike-rate (SwStr%) had an r-squared of .014 and that was the highest correlation I could find before I began examining fastball velocity. The r-squared between fastball velocity and the slider SwStr% was .20. The faster a pitcher throws, their slider is more effective. With so many other factors in play (e.g. deception, spin axis, perceived velocity), I’m surprised I was able to get that high of a correlation.

I started incorporating fastball velocity with the slider metric. I quickly found that the difference between fastball and slider velocity to also be a “major” factor. The change wasn’t linear but instead, it was a parabolic change above and below a 10-mph difference. Simply, throwing as fast of fastball as possible with a slider 10-mph slower is are the keys to the slider’s success.

To simplify the parabolic equation, I used the following equation:

Absolute Value (Fastball Velo – Slider Velo – 10) = ABS Difference

When combining the two factors, the r-squared be .25 and this equation:

Slider SwStr% = -.00643 * ABS Difference + .00918 * Fastball Velo – 0.6778

Going over the projected results, the ABS difference component has a standard deviation of 1% and the Fastball Velo has a 2% standard deviation.

Overall, I was a little disappointed that spin rated didn’t matter. On the other hand, I found a couple of factors to help determine the effectiveness of slider, especially its effectiveness in relation to the fastball. There is a possibility I’m missing something and please let me know in the comments.





Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.

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NickGerli
5 years ago

I looked at spin rates on a bunch of different pitches and it seems it only really matters on fastballs, particularly those thrown up in the zone.