Should Bud Norris Close?

One of the best parts about the winter is obviously tracking all the latest player movement, but sometimes when that rumor mill starts churning, the fantasy nerd in me can’t help but start thinking about making some oddball offseason moves with the hope that the whispers pan out to be truths and I’ve somehow stolen what could blossom into a killer fantasy commodity. Some of the rumors are bigger than others, but a sneaky one that recently popped up sort of intrigues me as a fantasy player who likes drafting closers with upside and hates chasing saves throughout the year. That rumor has the Orioles turning last year’s trade deadline acquisition, Bud Norris, into their full-time closer.

Now, if you read the article, or at least skimmed down to the bottom where it’s mentioned, you’ll know that this rumor is in its infantile stages and the Orioles also added that it would only be a fall-back option for them. They remain very much in the hunt for names like Grant Balfour, Fernando Rodney and even Joaquin Benoit and would ideally like to replace Jim Johnson with an experienced closer. While the move of Norris to the pen seems unlikely, it got me to wondering just how far-fetched a move this would be. We’ve seen plenty of starters find success in the bullpen, particularly guys with strong strikeout numbers, and in truth, it’s not like Norris has been dazzling from a starter’s standpoint.

Two things I wanted to take a look at were, first, how effective a pitcher Norris was in the first inning of games he pitched and second, if there was anything interesting about his pitch mix in that first inning compared to the rest of his time on the bump. I employed the help of our friends over at baseball-reference.com for the first and then hit up everyone’s favorite stat-hound Jeff Zimmerman for the second. Not that this is an ideal way to make determinations, because let’s face it, a closer tends to go out there and throw as hard as he can right from the onset while a starter tends to hold a little something back with the intention of coming out for at least a few more innings.

In looking at the innings breakdown for Norris’ career, it’s apparent that the first inning is far from his best. Opposing batters may only be hitting him at a .244 average the first time they face him in a game, but over 126.2 first innings for Norris, he has a cumulative ERA of 4.83 and opponents have a .270 average against him with a .346 on-base percentage. The 2.41 K/BB is actually a nice bonus but hey, a guy can strike out the side and still give up four runs on five hits in any particular frame. But based on the totals, the first inning still looks a bit rough. It’s not until the second or third inning when he finally settles down.

So that brought me to the pitch mix. Was it nerves or first-inning jitters that maybe affected his performance, or could it have been his overall approach. While I would love to share the data with you that Jeff sent my way, I wouldn’t even know how or where to begin to make it happen. Blame the age, blame the lack of computer classes growing up, blame the fact that I’m typing this article out on a Commodore 64; all of the above in my case. But what I can tell you is that he does seem to pull back on his fastball in the second and third innings and turns to his slider and changeup a bit more often. He’s still throwing his fastball the majority of the time, but the inclusion of his secondary pitches is definitely higher than it is in the first inning. And with that, the opposition’s batting average dropped while his K/BB increased steadily. He actually exhibited more control in those second and third innings than he did just rapid-firing his fastball in there during the first.

So maybe if Norris implemented the use of his secondary pitches a little more in that first inning, while also employing the mentality of not holding anything back from his fastball, perhaps he could blossom into a decent ninth inning option. One inning of 92 mph heat with some extra sliders in there would probably help raise that ground-ball rate, so long as he doesn’t leave everything up in the zone. Of course, maybe just a simple adjustment towards this would help him as a starter too. He does seem to struggle in the first inning quite often, so maybe a few adjustments here and there could help him to be more effective early on and not fall behind as quickly as he tends to.

You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.

It’s a huge longshot, Norris closing, that is, but I suppose not only totally off-the-wall. This is probably all a moot point anyway as the O’s are still expected to be active on the free agent market, but something that may have warranted a cursory glance since it was mentioned. One thing I do know though, is that I will not e making any offseason moves for him.





Howard Bender has been covering fantasy sports for over 10 years on a variety of websites. In addition to his work here, you can also find him at his site, RotobuzzGuy.com, Fantasy Alarm, RotoWire and Mock Draft Central. Follow him on Twitter at @rotobuzzguy or for more direct questions or comments, email him at rotobuzzguy@gmail.com

9 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
jdbolickMember since 2024
12 years ago

Wouldn’t the batters he’s facing have quite a bit to do with this? In the first inning he’s guaranteed to face the top of the order, which presumably features the opponent’s best batters.

Rallyk
12 years ago

My main issue with this analysis is the first inning is the other team’s best hitters every time. That’s why the next two innings are better. Closer’s face pinch hitters if they’re facing the bottom of the order, but I don’t think you can draw much in the way of conclusions from this.

attgig
12 years ago

how about Hunter? O’Day?

they would seem like possibly better options than Norris…

jdbolickMember since 2024
12 years ago
Reply to  attgig

All three are varying levels of awful against left-handers, and if you buy into the notion of a regular closer then you’d want someone like Balfour without strong splits.

Oh, Beepy
12 years ago

Another thing I’d like to see laid out would be whether batters in general were swinging more aggressively against the Astros, as psychologically I could see a batter looking to pad his numbers versus the lowly ‘Stros.

Oh, Beepy
12 years ago
Reply to  Oh, Beepy

At the beginning of a game, I mean. I imagine that game strategy, score, and base-out situations quickly dilute any preconceived intentions in the batters’ heads fairly quickly.

steve
12 years ago

At this point both Norris and Hunter have pushed back at starting (same with Brian Matusz)so the Orioles have some thinking to do with bullpen. Also, it is always better to have “options” when negotiating with other free agents.

OaktownSteve
12 years ago

Go back to Baseball Reference and look at his first three innings versus all other innings. If you’ve followed Norris’ career, you know that he’s always been a guy who had the most trouble the second and third times through the order. He’s had so many would be quality starts fall apart in the 5-7 innings. He’s only pitched 9 total innings in the 8th and 9th combined in his entire career. His K rate for the first three inning cumulatively is about 2.5/9 higher than in innings 4-9. The first three inning K rate of 9.88 is closer worthy. I agree with you that if he comes out of the pen he’ll need to use the slider early and often. It’s by far his best pitch. The slider also seems to be a pitch that becomes less effective as the game goes on and hitters get a second and third look at it. I see that here in Oakland with Dan Straily who features a similar slider. His first three inning ERA in the bigs is 3.18 and jumps to 4.88 in innigs 4-6.

Of course it’s tough to know how he’ll react to being in a game late. He’s got zero career complete games. But if the mental side is there, I can definitely see how the stuff could be made to translate as a closer.

cs3
12 years ago

If Norris does close, much of his value will lie in the fact that he will have SP eligibility