Roto Riteup: April 12, 2013

The author missed last night’s new episode — not to mention season finale — of Archer. One could correctly assume that while not pleased with this turn of events, the author cannot complain, as he enjoyed watching Chopped instead.

On today’s agenda:
1. Denard Span’s early doings
2. A Houston Astro you might want to grab (no, really!)
3. Jockeying for position: Jordany Valdespin
4. An ugly fight breaks out, and so does an expensive shoulder


Denard Span’s early season showing
For the first two years of his career, Denard Span was a beacon of truth as to what a lead off hitter should be. He posted back-to-back seasons of a .380+ on-base percentage and stole 41 bases in those two seasons, despite playing in just 93 games his rookie year. His BABIP and BB% dipped in 2010 a bit and then injuries took their toll.  Span’s last two seasons have been marred with missed time due to a concussion, its linger effects, and a shoulder injury, this year he looks to have bounced back in every facet. Span has drawn nine walks in as many games and he stole his first base on the season too. Given that he is hitting lead off in front of Bryce Harper and company, it isn’t difficult to imagine Span setting a career high in runs. Span will contribute in three categories — and with his walk rate and history of walks, those of you in OBP or AVG and OBP leagues should really take note — and while they aren’t the sexy categories of home runs and RBIs, points are points. Span is available to pick up in 85% of Yahoo! leagues, almost 90% of ESPN formats, and 40% of CBS leagues.

A Houston Astro to own
According to Astros manager Bo Porter, Marwin Gonzalez has earned himself more playing time. Gonzalez is hitting a cool .444/.545/.833 for the season and now has five starts at shortstop to boot. Of course, shortstop eligibility will drastically improve Gonzalez’s strock in fantasy terms. The primary concern is the legitimacy of his bat; his single season high (even combining levels) for home runs is four, and he is already at two this year. He hasn’t hit anywhere other than ninth in the order as well, so the counting stats like RBIs and runs probably won’t be notable either. He is essentially a one category player, batting average, as he doesn’t have much speed to speak for either. That being said, a shortstop with a decent batting average is something worth owning, especially in deep leagues with a MI spot or NL AL-only formats. Gonzalez is still a well kept secret as you can freely grab him in over 95% of all three major fantasy sites.

Jockeying for position: Jordany Valdespin
Another day, another new lineup and center fielder for the New York Mets. It appears as though Jordany Valdespin now has the inside track to more playing time as he gotten two straight starts in center, the last of which came with a simultaneously start at the top of the batting order. In addition to his great batting average (cue the small sample size alarms), Valdespin has also stolen a pair of bases in his seven games too. He is coming off of three straight seasons with at least 20 steals, including a 33 steal campaign in 2011, so given the chance, Valdespin could be a nice source of steals. As noted by our Bossman Sarris, even if Valdespin is relegated to a platoon situation, his left-handed swing should ensure the majority of the playing time. Valdespin is owned in a mere 10% or less of CBS, ESPN, and Yahoo! formats. Keep a close eye on the Mets lineup, as he could be a solid waiver wire pickup.

An ugly fight breaks out
The brawl of sorts between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Diego Padres will certainly receive some sort of formal punishment, but before any ruling is handed down from the Commissioner’s office, the Dodgers and their fans are already feeling the cost of the fight. The official MLB twitter account posted that Zack Greinke has a broken collar bone. Presumably the break occurred when Carlos Quentin charged the mound after being struck by an errant 3-2 pitch from Greinke. Since Vin Scully is available to speak on the matter, the author will allow Vin to do what he does best: speak eloquently about baseball. At approximately the 9:12 mark of that video, you can see Matt Kemp being buzzed by the pitch from Jason Marquis that Vin is referring to. At the time of writing, there is no time table nor official roster move from the Dodgers just yet. As a Greinke owner and fan, the author is disappointed. As an even bigger fan of baseball, this is an embarrassment.

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Ruki Motomiya
13 years ago

I owned Greinke since I got him late. So him being injured by a mound charge blows. I hope the guy is okay: A broken collar bone can’t feel good!

Scott
13 years ago

Carlos Quentin has no right to ever charge a mound.

David
13 years ago
Reply to  Scott

No need to suspend Quentin. Given his prolific injury history, he’ll sideline himself with a hangnail or menstrual cramps soon enough

Truckstop
13 years ago
Reply to  Scott

To be fair, this is the third time Greinke has hit Quentin. Greinke also took Quentin’s sister on a date for a steak dinner and never called her back. So there’s some history.

Stuck in a Slump
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

I guess you could say that Grienke hit that?

bSpittle
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

Doesn’t Quentin crowd the plate and get hit a lot in general?

Cliff
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

*Seafood dinner

Tom B
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

To be fair? Quentin didn’t even try to avoid the pitch. He should not have been awarded first base.

stripesjr
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

Before last night Quentin was hit by Greinke 2 times in 28 PA. He was hit by Bedard 3 times in 9 PA. The list of pitchers that have hit Quentin twice is quite long. And most of the pitchers have faced Quentin fewer times than Greinke.

geo
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

And your point it? Nick Blackburn has hit him four times. Jon Lester and Erik Bedard have both hit him three times. I haven’t seen him attack any of those guys.

Truckstop
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

Whoa. Lots of angry Dodger fans on this board. Take a joke people.

Mat G
13 years ago
Reply to  Truckstop

I hit Quentin on my commute this morning.

DBA
13 years ago
Reply to  David Wiers

I won’t insinuate that Quentin leans into pitches either – I’ll state it. He gets hit 20 times/year for a reason.

I’d like to see baseball enforce the rule as written:

rule 6.08(b), a batter becomes a baserunner and is awarded first base when he or his equipment (except for his bat):
is touched by a pitched ball outside of the strike zone,
and he attempts to avoid it (or had no opportunity to avoid it),and he did not swing at the pitch.

I’ve seen guys take first base for being hit by strikes. And failure to attempt to get out of the way is almost commonplace.

Pathetic display by Quentin.

fredward
13 years ago

Look….the guy might not be your cup of tea but presumably he has a cock and balls so lets treat him like a man. The guy can punch a wall hard enough to break his hand. HE’S A MAN! HE’S 40! WOOOOO!!!!

Ruki Motomiya
13 years ago
Reply to  fredward

When did Jamie Moyer factor into all this?

jvetter
13 years ago

Marwin Gonzalez – AL Only Leagues

ML
13 years ago

Add Morse fractured pinky as well. I was surpised they only said 3-7 days. Guess that little sucker is less important

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
13 years ago

Wait, you mean Quentin’s knees didn’t crumple, absorbing the blow?

Clayton
13 years ago

“‘That is fertilizer,’ Matt Kemp yells over and over again, ‘that is fertilizer.'”

Johnny Come Lately
13 years ago
Reply to  Clayton

God I love Vin. Truly a national treasure.

rustydudeMember since 2021
13 years ago

I’ve been listening to Vin Scully, on the occasions where he broadcasts nationally televised games, since the 1960’s. I really don’t understand the cult worship around Scully. He’s okay, but I don’t deem him to be anything special For example, I could see Hawk Harrelson doing the same PG interpretation of Kemp’s yells. But if Hawk did it, there’d be many comments about how he’s an idiot. I don’t necessarily like Harrelson, I’m just using it as an example of how emotions run at the extremes on the topic of announcers.

For me, announcers are just so much window dressing. They server a needed purpose, but definitely aren’t anything that makes the game come alive. Players and coaches do that.

Only Hawk
13 years ago

Not sure rustydude has seen Hawk announce. The biggest difference – Hawk would repeatedly cheer the Good Guys on during the brawl.

gryfyn1
13 years ago

True, but Quentin gets hit at an epic pace – 116 times, or once every 24 PAs – so he really should be used to it.

Benzedrine
13 years ago

I like Valdespin a lot but I’m scared to get him when my team in an OBP league already has a bunch of guys who don’t walk.

Knucklebear
13 years ago

I witnessed the Brawl first hand last night and it looked like the Padres knew that they would need any edge they could to compete with the Dodgers.

The throw up and in on Kemp set the tone, they were almost begging the Dodgers to do something stupid. Greinke obliged and it almost cost them the game (and his intact collar bone).

Its a shame that Greinke was hurt but all in all an interesting bit of gamesmanship by the Padres who need every edge they can get to compete.

cnote66Member since 2017
13 years ago

Grienke missed inside (look at where the catcher sets up) and hits Quentin. He wasnt trying to hit Carlos on purpose. I am convinced Quentin charged the mound for the sole purpose of getting Grienke kicked out of the game (since Zack was dealing, at the time). I think that is one of the reasons Kemp is angry too (Sure he got thrown at early in the game — but brushed it off). Kemp KNOWS they are going to kick Greinke out of the game, at that point.

potcircle
13 years ago

greinke asked for it, by hitting quentin with what seems to be an obvious retribution pitch, and then by saying whatever he said that instigated the charge, and then again by not getting into a defensive posture to fight like a man…

you don’t body block a guy who outweighs you by 40 pounds… greinke was just too stupid to stand tall and make quentin slow down &/or actually fight him… & there are 3 good choices there, fight-wise – stand tall and in position to box with fists, stand tall and kick hard, or get behind your infielders… but wrestle with carlos quentin? so stupid…

Johnny Come Lately
13 years ago
Reply to  potcircle

Ummm, what? It was a 3-2 pitch to lead off an inning in a 1 run game. There’s about a .000001% chance Greinke hit him on purpose.

potcircle
13 years ago

i am neither a padre nor dodger fan, & i totally disagree… you don’t miss by that much on accident – especially if you’re greinke – & it doesn’t look to me like the ball got away from him, so i assume he was doing kemp’s bidding and ‘protecting’ his guy for the earlier pitch…

& if you want to pitch around quentin, anyway, why throw a strike? not like the rest of the padres are much of a threat… so, 3-2 against a guy with a good eye – i just think greinke is a little bitch who would have walked him before giving him something to hit, so he hit him, instead…

& far as i’m concerned, i hope greinke gets beaned in his first ab back, too, because had he thrown up his hands & said sorry instead of acting like a douchebag (& fighting like an idiot), he wouldn’t be spending his next couple months of day games watching dr phil…

potcircle
13 years ago
Reply to  David Wiers

yes… entirely greinke’s fault…

first, he hit him…

second, he antagonized him…

third, he tried to fight him by going sumo with a much bigger guy… make a punch… even a kick… or run… but to wrestle the bigger, stronger dude is a good way to get robin ventura’d…

so, i assume he could have avoided the first part, but even if not, he surely could have avoided the 2nd & 3rd… so he deserves his injury, as it was avoidable in multiple ways…

spacegirl
13 years ago

& i say we should give hit batters 30 seconds to chase &/or brawl with the pitchers… like the batter gets hit and a bell goes off with a timer… it would be fun to watch, & it would end beanings, immediately…

Paul
13 years ago

Get hit by a 92 mph fastball and then get back to me on whether or not you think that charging the mound should be banned. Not saying that Quentin was right, but there are more than a handful of pitchers who regularly plunk guys and deserve to get the crap kicked out of them. Padilla when he was with the Rangers did not deserve to get mound charged??

arrjcee
13 years ago

My friend owns Grienke in our 16 team mixed league. His SP depth is very weak and he is in desperate need of help. His OF is also pretty thin. I’m looking for a 3B (currently own only Pedro Alvarez) and maybe RP help, and he happens to have stockpiled both David Wright and Chase Headley.

My question: Would you trade Dexter Fowler and Yovani Gallardo for David Wright and either Trevor Rosenthal or Jim Henderson?

Just FYI: my current OF is Bautista, Cespedes, Fowler, Aoki, and Cuddyer. My rotation is David Price, Gallardo, Anibal Sanchez, Trevor Cahill, AJ Griffin, Bud Norris, and Billingsley

arrjcee
13 years ago
Reply to  David Wiers

That’s what I’m thinking. Thanks David. Would you rather have Rosenthal or Henderson for the rest of this season?

beavis
13 years ago

Is it ever OK to trade Miguel Cabrera? I’m in dead last of a 12 team mixed roto, albeit just 2 weeks in. No higher than 9th in any pitching category, but I like my starters (Price, Gallardo, Iwakuma, Peavy, Cobb, Estrada). I could ship Cabrera and Bobby Parnell off for Joe Votto and Aroldis Chapman. I will have Aramis Ramirez back at 3rd in a couple weeks. Chapman and Rivera would make a nice bullpen. Any opinions?