Poll 2017: Which Group of Pitchers Performs Better?

Since 2013, I have polled you dashingly attractive readers on which group of pitchers you think will post the better aggregate ERA post all-star break. The two groups were determined based on ERA-SIERA disparity, pitting the underperformers versus the overperformers during the pre-all-star break period.

I came up with this idea given my faith in using SIERA over smaller samples, rather than ERA, as I generally ignore ERA completely as late as the middle of the season and it’s interesting to learn how everyone else thinks. Will the SIERA outperformers continue to outperform, perhaps due to continued strong defensive support and/or more pitcher friendly ballparks, or will the magic vanish? And is it just bad luck that is due to reverse course for the SIERA underperformers or are they being hampered by one of the aforementioned factors that should continue to play a role the rest of the way?

My population group consisted of 114 starters with at least 70 innings pitched, which included some that are no longer in a rotation and/or are injured. I have decided to only include in the two groups those who will remain a starter and whose return from the DL is not up in the air. Group A is composed of the 10 largest SIERA outperformers, while Group B is composed of the 10 largest SIERA underperformers.

Group A – The SIERA Outperformers
Name K% BB% LD% GB% FB% IFFB% BABIP LOB% HR/FB ERA SIERA ERA-SIERA
Andrew Cashner 11.6% 10.4% 19.9% 49.8% 30.3% 3.7% 0.282 74.8% 7.4% 3.54 5.70 -2.16
Jason Vargas 18.2% 5.8% 18.9% 37.4% 43.7% 9.4% 0.276 84.7% 7.9% 2.62 4.63 -2.01
Ervin Santana 18.8% 8.3% 15.2% 44.3% 40.5% 12.9% 0.217 83.6% 12.9% 2.99 4.75 -1.76
Gio Gonzalez 23.5% 10.5% 19.5% 44.1% 36.4% 11.1% 0.259 85.0% 13.0% 2.86 4.45 -1.59
Jose Urena 15.9% 8.2% 18.3% 39.5% 42.2% 10.8% 0.245 78.2% 10.8% 3.54 5.10 -1.56
Brandon McCarthy 18.5% 7.0% 22.8% 43.4% 33.8% 22.1% 0.272 72.3% 5.2% 3.12 4.57 -1.45
Dallas Keuchel 24.4% 6.4% 14.2% 67.4% 18.4% 5.7% 0.222 88.7% 17.1% 1.67 3.11 -1.44
Ivan Nova 13.9% 3.1% 22.8% 47.9% 29.3% 8.0% 0.267 79.1% 13.4% 3.21 4.52 -1.31
Chase Anderson 23.4% 7.4% 18.8% 38.1% 43.1% 10.7% 0.272 78.7% 7.8% 2.89 4.15 -1.26
Kyle Freeland 14.0% 8.8% 17.1% 55.0% 27.9% 12.6% 0.287 77.9% 12.6% 3.77 5.03 -1.26
Group Average 18.0% 7.6% 18.8% 46.3% 35.0% 10.7% 0.260 80.5% 11.0% 3.04 4.62 -1.58
League Average (All Starters) 21.6% 8.6% 20.2% 44.3% 35.5% 9.5% 0.297 72.5% 13.7% 4.35 4.27 0.08
*All Group Average metrics (excluding ERA & SIERA) were calculated by weighting total batters faced, which isn’t perfectly accurate, as the batted ball data should be weighted based on balls in play, but that would have been too time-consuming; these averages are close enough

Group B – The SIERA Underperformers
Name K% BB% LD% GB% FB% IFFB% BABIP LOB% HR/FB ERA SIERA ERA-SIERA
Ubaldo Jimenez 19.3% 11.2% 19.0% 44.7% 36.4% 9.8% 0.272 64.1% 20.7% 6.67 4.96 1.71
Masahiro Tanaka 23.2% 6.1% 17.7% 48.9% 33.4% 12.7% 0.316 71.2% 22.5% 5.47 3.86 1.61
Josh Tomlin 17.5% 2.7% 24.7% 39.4% 35.9% 5.4% 0.347 64.8% 15.2% 5.90 4.31 1.59
Trevor Bauer 25.8% 8.5% 20.7% 47.3% 32.0% 9.8% 0.336 67.9% 17.1% 5.24 3.88 1.36
Jeff Samardzija 26.2% 2.9% 24.7% 43.2% 32.1% 8.3% 0.323 67.1% 16.7% 4.58 3.26 1.32
Matt Moore 17.9% 9.0% 20.8% 37.3% 41.9% 5.8% 0.347 66.2% 10.9% 6.04 5.01 1.03
Kyle Gibson 13.6% 10.1% 22.3% 50.7% 27.0% 2.6% 0.335 68.8% 21.1% 6.31 5.32 0.99
Marco Estrada 24.9% 8.8% 20.9% 32.1% 47.0% 11.9% 0.325 72.0% 12.6% 5.17 4.22 0.95
Adam Wainwright 20.7% 7.7% 24.7% 47.7% 27.7% 12.0% 0.347 67.4% 12.0% 5.20 4.25 0.95
Kevin Gausman 18.4% 9.6% 23.8% 41.4% 34.8% 10.8% 0.371 70.6% 12.6% 5.85 4.93 0.92
Group Average 20.9% 7.6% 22.0% 43.1% 34.9% 9.0% 0.333 68.1% 16.0% 5.59 4.35 1.24
League Average (All Starters) 21.6% 8.6% 20.2% 44.3% 35.5% 9.5% 0.297 72.5% 13.7% 4.35 4.27 0.08
*All Group Average metrics (excluding ERA & SIERA) were calculated by weighting total batters faced, which isn’t perfectly accurate, as the batted ball data should be weighted based on balls in play, but that would have been too time-consuming; these averages are close enough

I would have liked to include additional metrics for comparison, namely Hard%, but there’s simply not enough room to display every relevant one.

It’s quite interesting that Group B has actually posted slightly stronger skills (lower SIERA) than Group A, with a significantly higher strikeout rate. The most notable difference comes in the line drive rate, which we know highly correlates with BABIP. Even though there’s limited consistency within the stat, it’s an important backward-looking indicator of performance. So the gap there goes a long way to explaining the ridiculous BABIP difference of .73 points.

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In addition to the difference in LD%, Group A has been more adept at inducing pop-ups, another BABIP suppresser. Naturally, all those extra hits, along with the much higher HR/FB rate, has pushed down Group B’s LOB%.

So let’s get to the poll questions. I will close the poll before games start up again.


 

 





Mike Podhorzer is the founder of ProjectingX IQ, an advanced fantasy baseball analytics platform that transforms projection data and in-season performance signals into actionable intelligence. He is the 2015 Fantasy Sports Writers Association Baseball Writer of the Year and three-time Tout Wars champion. He is the author of the eBook Projecting X 2.0: How to Forecast Baseball Player Performance, which teaches you how to project players yourself. Follow Mike on X@MikePodhorzer and contact him via email.

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Jeff ZimmermanFanGraphs Staff
9 years ago

If the ball stays live, I would not be surprised to see the first group perform better since they have a higher GB%. It’s a tough time to be a flyball pitcher.

Mike, if you’re completely bored at some point, I’d be interested in the average HR/9 for each group.

Nevin
9 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Zimmerman

My exact first reaction. Lotta GB% upside in that first group.

Max Power
9 years ago

Not sure if this is the point of the exercise, but it’s easier to see guys in Group B like Ubaldo and Gibson pulled from the rotation due to their first halves, while similar guys in Group A might get longer leashes due to their results, giving an advantage to Group B as a whole.

OTMHeartBBCMember since 2019
9 years ago

Group A stays ahead of B. B has a couple great potential values but dragged down by a few horrid names

White Jar
9 years ago

I’ll uh…go ahead and take the group without Ubaldo Jimenez. Thanks.

QuadrangularMember since 2017
9 years ago

advanced metrics be damned. the first half results pass the sniff test. ride or die with the overperformers!

kozilla
9 years ago

I’d be interested to see that comparison for quality of contact. If I had to venture a guess, I’d say Group A proves to be the stronger of the two. This could explain some of the overachievers success.

kozilla
9 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

Well it’s late so I definitely might be mistaken but I thought there was exit velocity data available for pitchers that you could also further break down by examining the EV for a pitchers different batted ball types.

kozilla
9 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

I see, probably a waste of time then. I was just curious since my initial reaction to the two groups was that Group A seems to, generally speaking, have better command than group B. The guys in A like Kuechel, McCarthy, Nova, Anderson, and Vargas seem like they would be good contact managers this season. While Bauer, Wainwright, Moore, Tanaka and ubaldo seem like guys who might be struggling with command due to control issues or injury/age related decline.

But of course command is a hard thing to nail down. I guess when I was the two groups with basically the same walk rates I immediately though of control vs command. Their control might appear equal but perhaps command might be a place with significant diversion.

kozilla
9 years ago
Reply to  Mike Podhorzer

Well thanks for the responses. And I apologize for the typos earlier, I was commenting from my phone during my lunch break.

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

Group B should have its worst guys heading to the pen and/or getting sent down/released, which will help their ERA.

Group A has earned a lot longer leash and should still pile up innings no matter how bad they are.