Pitcher Spotlight: The Noah Syndergaard Flaw We’re All Ignoring

Today I’ll be talking about the holy one, the pitcher with arguably the filthiest repertoire, the most dominating stuff, the man who should win every single at-bat.

And I’m going tell you why that probably isn’t going to happen. At least not yet.

Let me preface this by saying that I love Noah Syndergaard. I have a relationship with pitching that is directly opposite of the Orioles and cutters, and I struggle to watch Syndergaard pitch without starstruck eyes. Just look at this triple digit heater:

Or this casual 93mph slider:

And why not, here’s a changeup with absurd movement and hinting 90mph:

Three pitches that no mortal deserves to own (and I’m even ignoring his above-average curveball). But he is no mortal. Funny, but jokes aside, even with these three pitches, Syndergaard hasn’t yet been the definitive “best pitcher in baseball.” There is a problem here, a flaw that is holding him back and it’s about time we talked about it.

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If you’ve followed my articles here at Rotographs, you may have picked up that I’m a firm believer that the technique utilized while wielding these tools is just as important as the strength of the hammer. And that’s where we have a flaw, rooted in one ghastly number.

.334 BABIP.

Let double preface this. That other preface was the preface before the preface. The numbers I’ll be referencing here will be taken from 2016 and 2016 alone. 2017 is laughable as a sample and has all the reasons for us to throw it out the window, and 2016 presents us with the best representation of Thor that we have. If you’re upset and think it’s a point of contention, by all means, let me know in the comments.

Back to the BABIP (great band name). Intrinsically, the problem really isn’t the BABIP, but it’s a number on the shallow level that hints at the massive iceberg hiding underwater. I use the word “hints” because it’s not a guarantee. Sometimes pitchers have bad luck and sometimes that bad luck carries for a full season. It’s common for us to see everything else looking so great – not even just numbers, look at those GIFs above! – then brush off a high BABIP as “no wonder it didn’t all go right, his BABIP was super unlucky at .334.”

You’ve been guilty of this. I’ve been guilty of this. We’re bad people. It’s time for us to scrutinize this number and treat it for what it actually is: A representation of Syndergaard as a thrower and not a pitcher.

That phrase is often thrown around wildly and seems like “pseudo-analysis” but there is an actual quantifiable explanation for it and if you bear with me, we’ll get to the meat of this article.

Let’s start with a table, I often do.

Noah Syndergaard’s Pitch Results 2016
Pitch Type # Thrown BAA BABIP
Fourseam 847 .248 .336
Sinker 912 .309 .352
Change 335 .250 .333
Slider 631 .165 .306
Curve 257 .208 .370
SOURCE: Brooks Baseball

So Thor’s BABIP was pretty poor across the board, but regarding Batting Average Allowed, Thor’s sinker is the sore thumb. It really shouldn’t be – the reason for the gap in his sinker and four-seamer BAA is due to Syndergaard using his four-seamer as a strikeout pitch (27.4% K rate), while his sinker rarely was the finishing blow (11.3%). Ignore the sore thumb, the whole hand is in pain. Combining for over 1750 thrown, Syndergaard’s fastballs combined for a .344 BABIP. That’s terrible and it’s even a worse mark than the .334 that started this whole conversation.

Is it just bad luck that Syndergaard’s fastballs returned terrible BABIPs? Or is there something else at play here?

You could make the argument that his high velocity should make it tougher for batters to get solid wood on the pitch, resulting in more pop-ups or dribblers, convincing you that this is a poor spin of the roulette wheel. You could also argue that batters have to do less to get a higher exit velocity as “a ball coming in harder goes out harder,” and there’s your explanation for Syndergaard’s batted ball issues.

I don’t think either is the correct theory. Here’s mine: Syndergaard doesn’t have full command of his fastball. Again, he’s a thrower, not a pitcher.

I had that instinct and my first thought was to jump to the heatmaps. Where is Syndergaard locating his fastballs regularly? Here’s your answer:What you’re looking at is Syndergaard predominately hitting the center of the plate or staying away from batters regardless of handedness, while locating mostly middle-to-low in the zone. And it makes a lot of sense. Because this is exactly where you don’t want to put your fastball.

You can say what you want about deception and if batters can pick up Syndergaard’s heaters better than other flamethrowers – you may have a solid argument there. It doesn’t remove the fact that the locations of Syndergaard’s four-seamers and sinkers are making it easier for batters to get hits.

A perfect example of the problem is what Javier Baez did on a fastball middle-away and thigh-high:

Baez didn’t have to do much with this fastball. He went with the pitch to right-center instead of pulling it, and pushed the ball into the outfield. He didn’t have to overswing, just look away, poke the bat out along an even plane – the easiest of planes – and it turns into a base-hit.

This.

Happened.

A.

Lot.

It raises a question. If this isn’t the correct approach for Syndergaard’s fastballs, what is?

The first adjustment is easy: don’t locate thigh-high, especially with a tinge of sitting lower than higher. This is the day-and-of-age of more batters emphasizing higher launch angles, which makes them better low-ball hitters. The counter to this approach is to feature more elevated fastballs that make it tougher for the more pronounced upper-cut swings to get the barrel on the ball (we’ve actually seen pitchers have plenty of success with this including Syndergaard’s teammate Jacob deGrom who features four-seamers predominantly above the belt and held a marvelous 15.6% whiff rate in 2017).

I wouldn’t call this the biggest flaw, though. It’s not ideal, but it’s not the core of the problem. The major step Syndergaard needs to take is the real separator between pitchers and throwers: Command fastballs on both sides of the plate.

What we call “crafty” pitchers are ones that utilize all four quadrants of the strike-zone, often having success with just two pitches in their repertoire, but their locations acting as the significant variables from pitch-to-pitch. Ervin Santana crafted his success last year doing this, Dallas Keuchel is a master of it, and Kyle Hendricks is making us slam our heads into walls as he defies odds with a near two-pitch approach of fastball-changeup as he works all around the zone. Hendricks does this with an average fastball velocity over 10mph slower than Syndergaard’s. Pitcher, not thrower.

Syndergaard not only lacks this skill, but I’d argue his current fastball approach is making it a less effective offering.

If we have to choose just one side of the plate to throw four-seamers and sinkers, throwing only inside to right-handers would be a better approach for a flamethrower like Syndergaard. Let me explain via a very crude MS Paint drawing showcasing a simple concept:

What you see are two baseballs on each side of the plate represented by two red circles and the theoretical bat paths needed to make contact with those pitches. Notice where the ball is in each scenario: batters need to start their swing earlier to hit an inside pitch, while they can wait longer to attack a pitch on the outside corner. To illustrate this further, here’s a fantastic image of Ted Williams making contact with an inside pitch – it’s slightly off the bat in this shot, but you can see how far in front of the plate the bat had to be to made contact.

With Syndergaard throwing absolute cheddar, locating inside will create more weak contact as hitters need to react quicker. Outside pitches often “speeds up bats” slightly, as it’s a shorter swing path in order to make contact with the ball. It’s a major reason why the Pirates pitchers throw inside fastballs a ton – it’s known to create weaker contact and it’s why batters are so easily jammed.

Here’s a great example of what can happen what Syndergaard throws inside with authority:

Now, it’s harder to do this. There’s a smaller margin of error as a little too far inside could result in a limp to first, while overcorrecting toward the middle could send the ball over the fence. It’s why you see many favor the outside corner where there’s a larger margin for error. You can miss as far as the opposite batter’s box and at worst you’re punished with a 1-0 count. It’s a tough skill to master and it’s not one that many pitchers can develop.

But that’s the point. Clayton Kershaw is able to attack the inside corner. Max Scherzer is able to elevate with his heater consistently. Chris Sale is able to do both, going high and also bust right-handers inside. Corey Kluber…well his fastball is bad, that’s another story, but we’re talking about Syndergaard’s ceiling here as the “#1 starting pitcher” and unless he masters his fastball command in some fashion – a greater focus on elevating, increasing the number of inside heaters, or simply having more variety – I just don’t see him getting there.

Look, it’s possible. It’s easy to forget how little Syndergaard has actually pitched in the majors and the 25-year-old (25!) has plenty of time to develop this skill. However, we need to begin questioning the innate talent of the pitcher and not spend so much time getting seduced by what he throws. I want to believe Syndergaard can become the god among men, but it might be smart to temper our expectations until he figures out his fastball command. It’s a significant flaw and one that will hold him back from the coveted ceiling.





Nick Pollack is the founder of PitcherList.com and has written for Washington Post, Fantasy Pros, and CBS Sports. He can be found making an excessive amount of GIFs on twitter at @PitcherList.

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knipping12Member since 2021
8 years ago

This article is so badass.

JimMember since 2016
8 years ago

Excellent job.

RotoholicMember since 2016
8 years ago

If you’re going to use BABIP to make an argument, you should have data to back it up rather than anecdotes, to explain if and why we should expect this trend to continue. Heat maps with no context aren’t very convincing. An equally statistically significant sample size (which is to say: not significant at all) in 2015 showed a BABIP below league average. LD% is notoriously not sticky, and has a huge effect on BABIP. His FB% went down as well, which will cause an increase in BABIP, although overall less damage done since although ground balls lead to more hits, they are also more benign.

I’m not a Thor owner, but I am not at all convinced that this is an issue to worry about. High K% pitchers that are also ground all heavy (which comes with a higher BABIP, but also more GIDPs and lower ISO-against – generally seen as a net positive) are highly sought after.

SnerdMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Rotoholic

You…didn’t read the article, did ya?

RotoholicMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  Snerd

I read the whole thing before I said anything. Feel free to lay out the reliable data, here. BABIP, BAA, and heat maps are not data analysis. The entire argument here is composed of feelings and anecdotes. I agree, looking at GIFs is fun, but it’s not really useful information.

RonnieDobbs
8 years ago
Reply to  Rotoholic

I’ll take anecdotal from a skilled eye any day. How often do you see that for free? That is the type of thing that people are typically trying to sell. Regression to the mean type analysis is a dime a dozen, which is 90% of what you see.

w_cress
8 years ago

As usual, well researched and very informative piece. Great stuff Nick!

CreamyMember since 2016
8 years ago

Loved the GIF of Thor sawing off Locain’s bat. now that was truly nasty,

jds07v
8 years ago

Has he fixed his previous inability to control the running game? I remember him giving up singles and the runner stealing 2nd and 3rd

Dan GreerMember since 2018
8 years ago
Reply to  jds07v

This was the first thing I thought of before reading the article.

Noah BaronMember since 2016
8 years ago

While I think this article might make sense from a qualitative standpoint, I’m not sure you have a quantitative argument here. I fail to see any relationship between Syndergaard’s fastball command and his high BABIP. Most of the metrics I’ve seen have him as one of the league’s best pitchers in average exit velocity, and he doesn’t have a particularly high line drive rate either.

BABIP has been shown to take a very long time to stabilize, so it seems much more likely that his high BABIP is a statistical blip rather than a product of his fastball command. If this trend continues for the next four seasons – and you can show a league-wide relationship between fastball command and BABIP – then I might be persuaded.

RonnieDobbs
8 years ago
Reply to  Noah Baron

If this trend continues for the next four years, then he will be on the back half of his career. What is the point of “analyzing” the first few years of his career at that point? It sounds like you are just betting on regression to the mean – that’s an easy bet to make and it hinges on him being the exact same player going forward which he won’t be.

Jon
8 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

If we’re playing a game where we flip a coin 12 times and the goal is to get as many heads as possible, and I get tails on my first 2 flips, should we start analyzing why I’m so bad at flipping coins?

r0ark
8 years ago

Cool article, but I’m not I’m buying this. His BABIP is likely high because the Mets have a bad defense, plus he plays in a great pitcher’s park so instead of giving up home runs that get removed from the BABIP equation they fall for hits. Or it’s just luck…which is what you’re supposed to use BABIP to measure.

Thor is already an elite pitcher. The only reason he doesn’t go in the first round in drafts is due to injury risk and because the Mets offense is also bad.

Giolito's changeup
8 years ago

Nick,

Really enjoyed the article. The gifs are excellent examples of your ideas.
Question, for some reason I recall BABIP stabilizes for hitters around 800 or so. What about pitchers?

Thanks again, enjoy all your articles.

Curtis Cook
8 years ago

According to Russell Carleton/Pizza Cutter, BABIP is the last stat to stabilize for pitchers, requiring 2000 balls in play.

Gus
8 years ago

Nice job Nick. The previous regime expected pitchers to pitch outside to minimize the mistake and induce ground balls, thus very few pitches were inside. In fact, when Montero broke from the mold and threw inside more in August and September 2017, it was immediately noticeable.

King Donko of Punchstania
8 years ago

Is there anything that shows how/when/if young pitchers–especially those with elite arsenals–develop command as they mature?

Steven
8 years ago

I’ve watched every one of his MLB starts and this rings true on fastball command. But I think only part of it is command. A big part of it is his mentality: here, f-u, hit it. Which I have to admit is kinda fun to watch. He does have a 75% LOB career which suggests some adjustments, but throwing down the middle 3rd & 4th time through does have a impact.

DDD
8 years ago
Reply to  Steven

I agree… with both you and Nick. Thor, as great as he is, can be even better by spotting his pitches more to the corners, up and down. But , because of his mentality, he’s more likely to throw it over the meat of the plate and “triple dog dare you” to try and hit it.

ssmallzMember since 2023
8 years ago

Well researched piece but His 2016 xBABIP was only .301 so there may be a bad luck component involved

npurcell8Member since 2017
8 years ago

This is fantastic. I think Mickey Callaway and Dave Eiland will be big helps with this. In a conversation with Nelson Figueroa on SNY and subsequent interviews, they’ve specifically addressed owning the inside part of the plate more. Ideally that helps a ton. Having two pitching-centric guys lead the team is really a breath of fresh air.

carterMember since 2020
8 years ago

Sinkers are dumb. Quit throwing it

FedericoMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  carter

Britton would disagree with you

ryanredsox
8 years ago

I feel like this is an article I’d read on ESPN not Rotographs/Fangraphs.

Mark Davidson
8 years ago

On pitches in the zone, 2015-2017, Syndergaard’s xwOBA was .306. That would tie him with MadBum, Yu Darvish, and Sonny Gray. So really good, but not elite – but that’s prob because of his stuff, so you’re right! But there’s also the fact that the Mets, 2015-2017, have allowed a BABIP of .305 – that’s 5th worst. So a little can be attributed to that as well.
Overall, he’s prob more of a thrower than pitcher, but the defense behind him has not helped

pedeysRSox
8 years ago

Let’s see if he can fix this mistake or if it will stay a mitsake. He could be even better if he’s able to fix this.

Bishphat
8 years ago

Really great work man. This may be one of the best things I’ve read all year and has completely changed my outlook on Thor.

mr.met89Member since 2024
8 years ago

Good thing Dave Eiland has been emphasizing pitching inside all spring!

vivalajeter
8 years ago

I guess I’m confused why we would just throw out his .279 BABIP in 150 innings in 2015. If it’s a “thrower, not pitcher” thing, then doesn’t that lessen as someone gets older and more experienced? Along those lines, wouldn’t we expect a higher BABIP in 2015 and lower in 2016?

dwm8a
8 years ago

I think it would be worthwhile to compare Syndergaard to Strasburg, who has similar stuff (though Strasburg’s stuff was more similar pre TJS) and has had similar BABIP-contact management issues. Without into a data analysis, my sense is that Strasburg’s early-career BABIP struggles were mostly fastball-related. Also, Strasburg had a much better BABIP during his two most recent seasons. Looking at Strasburg to see whether something changed in his fastball command over the past two years might provide some insight into whether Strasburg’s BABIP issues were just noise, which might provide insight into the same for Syndergaard.

(Note: the Strasburg example isn’t perfect because he had an outlier low-BABIP season of .263 in 2013, which stands out from the consistently high BABIPs he ran from 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2015, which were all above .310).

whiptydojoe
8 years ago

That first Baez hit just looks like a shift that let a hit go.