Jordan Hicks: Talented With Unknown Role
The Cardinals have added Jordan Hicks to their major league bullpen. The move comes as a surprise with Hicks skipping both Double and Triple-A. While Hicks’s role is not defined, he’s a talented pitcher who can’t be ignored.
The 21-year-old righty has previously shown a plus fastball. Here are the various scouting reports on it.
- FanGraphs: Grade 50/55, “…routinely sitting 94 or better during the regular season, Hicks’ heater sat 97-100 in the Fall League … trouble keeping it down … doesn’t play like an 80-grade fastball…”
- MLB.com: Grade: 70, “… fastball will sit in the mid-90s, frequently touch the upper-90s and flirt with triple digits, all with plus natural movement…”
- Baseball America: Grade: 70, “… 93-98 mph with his fastball, sits 95, and touches 101 in short bursts…holds his velocity … fastball plays up further with arm side life…”
- BHQ: Grade: 4+, 93-98 “… sits 93-96, topping at 100 mph with good late sink…”
The industry has a consensus on the fastball, it good They aren’t as high on his secondary stuff. He throws a breaking pitch in which gets classified differently.
- FanGraphs: Grade 50/60, “… a slurvy, mid-80s breaking ball … effective shape but isn’t always tight…”
- MLB.com: Grade: 55, “… very hard power curve … could be a plus pitch as he works to be more consistent with it…”
- Baseball America: Grade: 70, “…tight power curveball at 79-82 mph … plus-plus grades … goto swing-and-miss pitch”
- BHQ: Grade: 4+, “…power curve grades as plus…”
Some good reports with most sources having it better than average. Also, he tries to throw a change which grades below average at best.
Hicks’s other main issue was throwing strikes with a BB/9 near or above 4.00 until High-A when dropped it to 2.00 in 27 innings of work. Additionally, this K/9 jumped 10.7 in High-A.
After looking through his scouting reports, I decided to watch this last spring training game from the 25th against the Nationals
- Fastball: No velos on screen but the broadcast mentioned a 97, 99 and 101 (x2) mph pitches. It had some nice downward and release-side bite.
Thanks to @pitcherlist for the GIFs
- Curve: It’s a hard curve which doesn’t get loopy. He can throw it for called strikes since it doesn’t break much.
- I didn’t read in any of his profiles but he is a groundball machine after seeing a ton of groundball outs during the game. Here are his minor league rates:
2016 (Rookie): 57%
2016 (A-): 64%
2017 (A): 52%
2017 (A+): 66%
I can’t wait to get the Trackman spin data on his fastball. A high-90’s fastball with sink automatically gives him a decent value.
- He commanded all his pitches for strikes and had no issues with walks or extended counts
Summary
I believe in the talent after seeing him throw and knowing his pedigree. The biggest issue will be his role. All but three of his minor appearances were starts so he’s used to going long into games. But he’s headed to the bullpen. If I was to bet on his role, it will be more of the 2-inning variety to start the season. He can stay stretched out and the Cardinals can move him as needed as a late-inning reliever or a spot starter.
At this point, he should be owned in all keeper and dynasty league where he is still available. Also, he probably needs to be owned in 15-team or deeper redraft leagues. Finally, with his starting pitcher eligibility, he will be a nice Holds/Ratio pitcher in leagues with SP/RP slots. Buy now on the talent and see how his role shakes out.
Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.
Cards did nothing.
Gregerson was marginal at best,and he is ailing.
They once again will rely on cheap,young talent.
Hicks ,or anyone could get saves.
Did I miss that it’s haiku Wednesday?
Seems a bit risky…
Where the fuck is Greg Holland?
Just go sign him Cards.
Wish granted!
40 FV with two pitches, am I missing why he needs to be owned in all dynasty leagues (even ten teamers?)? How would you compare him to Joe Jiminez or Burdi?
Dinelson Lamet and Chris Archer only have 2 + pitches. Are they owned?
They are owned for sure. I’m not a good scout by any means so I was looking for some illumination on the Castillo comp. and suggestion to own him.
The dynasty league I’m in way on top of toolsy prospects so I’m trying to get out in front of them (and hope none of them are reading these comments) when it comes to guys like this.
Thanks for the article and response!
You are thinking Hicks has a lot in common with Chris Archer?
One “issue” is that Hicks may not belong on your roster. Most owners who t least come to FanGraphs check and maintain their rosters. Others don’t. I’m sure there is a spot for him on one of the other teams.
As the MLB.com, Baseball America and BHQ writeups show, 40 FV is hardly an industry consensus. It’s possible that Fangraphs is right and everyone else is wrong, but there’s a reason so many teams were asking for Hicks in trades this winter. The Cardinals are very, very deep in pitching right now, and they’re pushing Hicks ahead of about a dozen older prospects who also profile as major league arms. They’re making room for him on a crowded 40-man roster because they think he’s ready to be an impact player now. The Cardinals also don’t have an established closer right now. Obviously there are risks, but if Hicks is racking up saves and strikeouts in June, looking like the next Roberto Osuna, I don’t know how anybody could say it came as a surprise. He has the talent.
Ok right on, thanks for the response. I was looking for some deeper explanation for why this particular skillset is a must buy – now that’s more clear.
sidenote, on the STL prospect page he is a 45 FV.
Thanks Jeff. The SP eligibility is gold in my league… GOLD!!!
The Cardinal bullpen is very interesting, actually. It lacks a ton of known commodities, but it does have a lot of hard throwing kids. It was interesting to see here that Hicks could get stretched as a starter again – haven’t read that anywhere else.
The Cardinals don’t need Holland – as they have said – not only Hicks, but Mayers and Tuivailala seem to be stepping up. When Gregerson comes back one of them (or Bowman?) may get optioned but they have some power arms.
For what it’s worth, things worked out pretty well the last time the Cardinals promoted a 21-year-old straight to the Majors from Spring Training after he spent most of the previous season in Single-A…
Oh hi there, Greg…
This dude came out throwing 101 mph according to the Mets broadcast today. If this guy doesn’t have at least a 70 grade fastball I don’t know who does.
That looks like an old scouting report. The newest report, located in the most recent Cardinals prospect list, has it much higher. And I’m not a scout, but seeing him hit 102 mph yesterday was mesmerizing. I don’t care how straight your fastball is, you can get outs with 102 mph.
That’s the thing, his fastball wasn’t straight, it had a ton of run on it. 102 with lots of movement is terrifying, he could be a monster if he keeps his walks down
He is an SP convert. Lots of guys are different pitchers after converting to relief. I think he has less than 10 career appearances out of the pen.
That curve looks quite hittable