Industry Mocking Gold
Last night, my friends over at RotoBaller hosted a 12-team industry draft. Nine major fantasy providers were represented including me, Paul Sporer, and Alex Chamberlain for RotoGraphs. Justin Mason provided the assist for Sporer who was also drafting his #BeatSporer league.
While we talked a big game about preferring auction drafts, we did a snake because they take half the time. And the league isn’t even real. As somebody said, it’s a fake fake baseball league. We picked 23 players – 2 C, MI, CI, 5 OF, and all the normal stuff. No bench. We didn’t use RTS so no pretty auto-generated table. Here is the team I drafted, and you should be able to view our league.

| Pick | Player | Pick | Player |
| 1.3 #3 | Bryce Harper CF/RF WSH | 13.3 #147 | Brett Gardner LF/CF NYY |
| 2.10 #22 | George Springer RF HOU | 14.10 #166 | Carlos Santana 1B/DH CLE |
| 3.3 #27 | Chris Sale SP CWS | 15.3 #171 | Eugenio Suarez SS CIN |
| 4.10 #46 | Miguel Sano 3B/DH MIN | 16.10 #190 | Kevin Pillar LF/CF TOR |
| 5.3 #51 | Felix Hernandez SP SEA | 17.3 #195 | Taijuan Walker SP SEA |
| 6.10 #70 | Noah Syndergaard SP NYM | 18.10 #214 | Josh Harrison 2B/3B/DH PIT |
| 7.3 #75 | Rougned Odor 2B TEX | 19.3 #219 | Sean Doolittle RP OAK |
| 8.10 #94 | Alex Gordon LF KC | 20.10 #238 | Miguel Montero C CHC |
| 9.3 #99 | Hanley Ramirez LF BOS | 21.3 #243 | Will Smith RP MIL |
| 10.10 #118 | Ben Zobrist 2B/LF CHC | 22.10 #262 | Jason Grilli RP ATL |
| 11.3 #123 | Yasmani Grandal C LAD | 23.3 #267 | Zack Wheeler SP NYM |
| 12.10 #142 | A.J. Ramos RP MIA |
I’m really quite pleased with how this roster turned out. I’m again struck by the sheer quantity of top pitching depth. If you don’t have a stout top of the rotation like my Sale-Felix-Thor trio, then you’re apt to have a tough season ahead of you. Now is not the time to polish up your LIMA chops.
On the same day I subtly warned you to proceed carefully with Sano, I took him in the fourth round. I also considered Jason Heyward, Yasiel Puig, and a host of pitchers with that pick. The pitchers were at the top of my board, but I had something like eight of them within $1 of each other. I was up again in five picks so I went with a position player first. I opted for Sano to fill the thin third base spot.
Along with Sano, my roster of Harper, Springer, Thor, Odor, Suarez, Pillar, and Walker includes a lot of young, high variance picks. These guys could all produce a monster season, or they might disappoint. I tried to diversify with picks like Hernandez, Zobrist, and Gordon. These are guys who should be a little more reliable when healthy. Injury risks Ramirez and Gardner provide a different type of variance.
After the first few rounds, I paid especial attention to drafting steals. I could have had Anthony Rendon where I selected Odor, but I trust Odor’s legs more. While I didn’t pick any pure burners – they went too early in my opinion – I got good value on Gardner, Pillar, and Harrison later in the draft.
Previous mock drafts have taught me that the relief pool tends to stick around a long time in these industry leagues. I can’t speak to more casual leagues where reliever run panic may be more common. Here, I built an imposing four man save squad without using any premium picks. Granted, all four teams involved may not finish above .500, but I should still get plenty of saves and K/9. Several closers were not even selected like Brad Ziegler, Steve Cishek, J.J. Hoover, and David Hernandez. Not that I would have picked them.
I often fluff off the catching position, but I actually addressed it in this league. Somehow, I failed to notice Travis d’Arnaud on the board when I picked Grandal. I’m happy with either guy in the 11th round. They’re both risky in their own ways – mostly injury related. d’Arnaud should go first even though I have them as comparable in expected value.
This was a well-executed draft for me. If there’s anything to learn, it’s the value of participating in quality mocks. My past mocking had me well prepared for this league. The only thing I didn’t do was build starting pitching depth. That’s by design, it’s something I would have managed in-season had it been an option.
A few takeaways:
- The top end of the starting pitching pool is deep. Don’t sit it out.
- A catcher around the 10th and 20th rounds should see you through a two catcher draft.
- Elite closers are cool, but very good closers may still be a much better value.
And a few points of interest:
- Aroldis Chapman, pick #136
- Jose Reyes, pick #160
- Andrew Miller, pick #152
- Yu Darvish, pick #151
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Love the team. Lots of value’s Thor in the 6th! nice.
I think that was a function of the league. FleaFlicker has Thor way down the draft board for some reason. Guessing he just escaped the other’s attention. I barely talked myself out of taking him over Hernandez in the 5th. I don’t think I would have in a real draft either.
Team looks great Brad.
Question for you:
5 keeper OBP 5×5 league
9 position players 8 pitchers
My keepers are:
Goldschmidt
Correa
Stanton
Pollack
Votto
I will be picking 8th, then13th.
If deGrom is there at 8 should I grab him? (he’s not a keeper because I dropped him).
I was also thinking of grabbing Blackmon to complete my outfield (potentially he could be there with my 13th pick).
Reason I’m considering going with a 6th position player and not a pitcher next is the quality of pitchers I can make runs at:
Carrasco, Salazar, Quintana, Liriano, McCullers..etc. Run a rotation the whole year of those mid level pitchers.
Thoughts?
My guess is that the pitchers might go sooner than you think. Blackmon and deGrom are both good values at 8 and you could use his SB.
Just be ready to be flexible by judging what others have done.
Boy I keep questioning whether I should keep Cain and that draft has me wondering again. I have a 5×5 OBP/SLG league with the additional 2OF and MI/CI. 5 keepers were going to be Correa, McCutchen, Betts, Posey, Kluber. We can opt for a 6th but I just don’t think I can carry 3OF without worrying about my CI/MI
That Cain pick was probably a small reach, but he’s an easy 4th round talent. At the cost of a sixth, I’d take him and solve the other positions later. They’re all deeper than OF this year anyway (aside from SS and 3B).
So half of them are deeper. But you already have Correa.
I think you’d be picking a second ace in the 6th instead of a MI/CI
LIMA = ???
Low Investment Mound Ace
It’s a classic/common strategy wherein you don’t pay for top pitching because there are always low cost guys who can accomplish the same thing. It seems to be more popular every year. I recommend LIMA only when the rest of your league is drafting SP normally.
It’s a play on Jose Lima who had several freely available stud fantasy seasons.
To be fair- He had 2 slightly usable seasons and spent the rest of his career being one of the worst pitchers in baseball.
Here’s the thing: I never like ‘following the crowd’ – doing what everyone else is doing just means I’m probably treading water at best. I’d rather zig if everyone is zagging. Given that the top tier is *so* deep, can’t we make the case of going bat-heavy while others are making the run on SPs?
Top 50 by NFBC’s ADP includes the following SPs: Kershaw, Scherzer, Arrieta, Sale, Bumgarner, Fernandez, Greinke, Harvey, Cole, Price, deGrom, Kluber, Strasburg, Keuchel, Thor, Archer, Carrasco.
Nothing but bats for the first 4-5 rounds, ignore the massive SP run that will have almost certainly started in the mid/late 2nd round, then follow that it up from rounds 6 or 7 with guys in the next 50 picks, which includes names like Felix, Lester, Gray, Cueto, Hamels, and Salazar, as well as Wainwright, Stroman and Wacha.
I suspect we could ignore the initial SP run, create a bit of an edge on offense and still be competitive in pitching.
Probably need to write a post on this…
The go-to strategy depends on type of draft. I think what you propose makes a lot more sense in an auction where all of the top talent is going to be overpriced anyway.
If, in the 3rd/4th round of a snake, you see $24 pitchers and $19 hitters (the general trend in my mocks), why wouldn’t you go with the more valuable player?