Everyone Is Paying Too Much for Jose Peraza
This far out from the start of the season, most of the average draft position data we have available is largely speculative, and understandably so. Still, I find value in analyzing the returns from this uncertain period, as it helps us develop some early trends going into our own draft/auction preparation. Second base is my usual beat here at RotoGraphs, so the other day I found myself examining the NFBC ADP for the position.
There’s other surprises in that data to save for another day, but today I’d like to discuss Jose Peraza’s position as the 12th 2B drafted. Peraza is currently going ahead of Dustin Pedroia, Ben Zobrist, Jonathan Schoop, Devon Travis, Jedd Gyorko, Starlin Castro, Logan Forsythe and Neil Walker. I’m sure we all have our own arguments about which of those eight names should slot in above Peraza, but I’m also fairly confident most of us prefer at least one or two of them to Peraza. Right?
Let’s begin by discussing the positives with Peraza — who is entering his age-23 season — as a fantasy commodity. He possesses excellent speed that allows his hit tool to play up a notch, as he is able to routinely leg out infield hits. Eight of his 78 hits in the majors last year didn’t leave the infield, so with a full season’s worth of playing time, he should easily be able to regularly record 20+ infield hits. In short, his average likely has a high floor, and he’s clearly a serious stolen-base threat.
Now I’ll start pouring on the cold water. Peraza doesn’t hit for power, with just 11 home runs in 2,343 minor-league plate appearances. Accepting that he’s a near-zero in that category, you’re going to need him to compensate with a ton of steals. Thankfully, he’s entirely capable of doing just that, but there’s some concerns here as well.
First off, Peraza does not draw walks. Last year, he picked up seven free passes in the majors, good for a 2.7% walk rate. He consistently walked in the 3.5% range in 2014 and 2015 as he climbed up from High-A to Triple-A, so this is likely not a fluke. If his batting average drops to the .282 that Steamer projects, he’ll struggle to post an on-base percentage much higher than .310, limiting his stolen-base upside.
Furthermore, for someone as fast as he is, Peraza got thrown out way more than I would have expected last year. While he did successfully swipe 31 bases between Triple-A and the majors, he was also gunned down 17 times. It can take a while for speedsters to adjust to the quality of pickoff moves and catchers’ arms at the game’s top levels, so while I’m not that concerned with his ability to significantly improve his success rate going forward, I’m also not convinced that will happen in 2017.
Now let’s get to the issue that is Cincinnati’s roster construction, or in other words, The Brandon Phillips Problem. Despite the team’s best efforts to trade him, the 35-year-old exercised his no-trade rights three times in the last year-plus, blocking deals that would have dealt him to Atlanta, Washington and Arizona. It’s pretty clear that Phillips intends on playing out his contract in Cincy.
It’s hard to say what the Reds will do with Phillips, but they’ll pay him $14 million this season to do something. This is a weird situation because Phillips has essentially only played second base, with 20 innings of shortstop being his only experience at any other position. Is he capable of being a serviceable backup left fielder? Is there even any value in adding “serviceable backup left fielder” to Brandon Phillips’ resume?
You see, The Brandon Phillips Problem goes deeper than you might think. His inability to play anywhere but Peraza’s primary position seemingly forces Peraza into the super-utility role, simply because there’s basically no reason to have a $14 million bench bat who only plays second base.
But wait, there’s more! Even if Peraza gets past The Brandon Phillips Problem, we get to The Dilson Herrera Problem. Like Peraza, Herrera is a second baseman entering his age-23 season with little left to prove at the minor-league level. While Peraza is the higher-upside prospect, Herrera is a more polished defender with a more well-rounded offensive profile. If he plays well in Triple-A to start the season, now we’re looking at three guys trying to get playing time at the same position.
I’ve seen some speculation that the Reds could trade Zack Cozart to open up a spot for Peraza, which is kind of ridiculous. Cozart is a defensive whiz at short, a position that I don’t think Peraza could handle on a regular basis. I also don’t like asking a 23-year-old to move to a more difficult position in the field, while also adjusting to his first full major-league season at the plate.
Of course, the silver lining in all this for fantasy owners is that the Reds will probably suck this year. By midseason, they likely won’t care about benching old, expensive Phillips, or trading Cozart and letting Peraza try his hand at short. Or hell, they might do both, and by July we might be looking at an everyday middle infield combo of Peraza and Herrera.
My goodness, isn’t this a lot of ifs for a guy who’s being drafted as a mixed-league regular? A few weeks from now, some of these questions may have clearer answers, but even if he finds his way into the everyday lineup, there are enough questions about Peraza’s projected performance to make him a hard pass for me this year. Following the old adage that it only takes one bullish owner to set a player’s draft-day value, I highly doubt I’ll own Peraza in any redraft leagues to start 2017.
While I love gambling on upside as much as anyone, it’s not like second base is a position lacking in reliably strong options.
Scott Strandberg started writing for Rotographs in 2013. He works in small business consultation, and he also writes A&E columns for The Norman Transcript newspaper. Scott lives in Seattle, WA.
Nice analysis!
As someone who owns Peraza in a keeper league (a league that doesn’t use HR’s, so he’s even better) I completely agree with this.
you do not use HR’s? I am not sure I ever heard of that, how is the league set up?
I have a league that doesn’t use HR, but uses SLG instead for a power category. Hit bat will give more value with SLG than it will HRs due to his speed alone, even if he’s not much of a power threat in general.
As Voxx guessed, we use SLG.
The full settings are: Runs, Rbi, SB, OBP, SLG, OPS / ERA x2, WHIP, K, Saves, Wins.
It’s interesting to have 3 averages and 3 counting stats each for pitching/hitting instead of 4-1 vs. 3-2.
Guys like Matt Holliday, Brandon Belt, Jose Ramirez, Melky Cabrera, Yadier Molina, Martin Prado (i.e dudes who hit lots of doubles and not a lot of HR’s) are a lot more valuable than in standard fantasy.
Do you think that Jarrod Dyson would be a guy who’ll put up similar numbers but cost a lot less?
Much different positional eligibility
Here’s an experiment, I’m only reacting to the title. I’ll read and reply afterwards. From what I’m seeing in mock drafts, Peraza is going way later than the value of his utility. Between a billion position eligibilities and game breaking speed, he’s the perfect guy to come first off your bench. Of course, you have to pick him before you’re actually in the bench phase of the draft, but that’s correct imo.
Now let’s see what Scott has to say 🙂
So yea, 12th 2B is higher than I’m seeing in skilled auctions, although not by much. However, get used to those other names you listed costing next to nothing.
The playing time issue is exactly why he should be a high value bench guy. Picking him is a commitment to checking lineups every day. Play the matchups early and let his talent earn him a larger role over time. He’s being drafted at a spot where high risk, high reward plays are made. Your goal here is to have a super utility guy who can make up for speed shortages from higher floor, late picks like a Forsythe or Zobrist. You want Peraza to play on Mondays, Thursdays, and any time your other guys are sitting. That should mitigate most of the power problem.
I completely understand where you’re coming from, but in standard formats, I still think 12th 2B is way too high. Also, doesn’t the fact that the other names I listed cost next to nothing actually help my argument? If I could spend nothing to get a player of roughly equivalent value, isn’t that the smarter move?
We need to keep this debate in mind so we can argue about it on podcasts as the season goes on haha
The issue is entirely stolen bases. There are what, three or four players who project for more stolen bases? There are maybe 10 or 15 players who decide whether your team competes or fails in that category, and almost all of them are gone before Peraza’s current ADP. So if you find yourself lacking steals, you have to reach for Peraza. And if your strategy is to hoard steals, then a mid-round pick is hardly an onerous cost.
The Fans’ wildly optimistic projection has him sixth with 40, Depth Charts has him seventh with 32, and Steamer has him tenth with 27. Mid to high twenties looks right to me barring a significant injury to Cozart or Phillips. That has value but it’s not a game changer. Given that he has no power and really should be hitting at the bottom of the lineup rather than the top even when he does play, this is an extremely risky profile. One hamstring injury, even one he attempts to play through, immediately tanks most of his value.
He’d belong at the bottom of the order for most teams, but sadly his OBP projects to be one of the better ones on the team, so he belongs in front of Votto imo.
Just look at the rest of the lineup/regulars: Schebler, Hamilton, Suarez, Mesoraco, DuVall, Cozart… none of these guys is projected to be over .320 OBP. To be fair, Peraza’s projections barely beat this group, but he’s a superior baserunner to all listed save Hamilton.
Not a slam dunk, but I think the case is there.
So you expect him only steal a few more bases in double the plate appearances?
That’s true of every player. Have you ever tried swinging with a bum hamstring? It sucks.
Azizal:
Wow, you’re right and that’s a great point. Presumably Winker comes up sometime this season but aside from him and Votto that organization appears allergic to walks.
carter:
Remember that he’s not beginning the season as a starter. I’m sure Cincinnati will try to work him in as often as possible, but for now he’s a utility player, so I don’t expect him to double his plate appearances. But even if he does, it’s pretty common for steals rates to decline with more playing time due to more rigorous schedule. Stealing is highly dependent upon both opportunity and health, the latter of which is why I brought up the hamstring issue. I have been burned many times by a steals specialist suffering a lower leg injury who plays through it but doesn’t attempt many steals until they recover from it. And even if he doesn’t get injured, the more you play the more your body wears down. It’s also worth mentioning that Peraza’s speed is a tier below Hamilton/Gordon.
At Fantrax, he is going 149. Still to high for me.
Just read your column from this morning. Seems like we’re certainly on the same page with Peraza.
Yep. I thought he was a nice sleeper, but he is going way too high IMO
Well, not EVERYONE
His ADP is 252 in Yahoo. SS #16
Yahoo only launched fantasy baseball for 2017 a few days ago, so that’s a mighty small sample size.
Well, Peraza played 250 innings at short in the majors last year. By far his most innings at any position. And he looked good there. So I don’t know why that would be a position switch when he has spent more time playing short in his pro career than second.
Phillips is not blocking Peraza. Phillips is blocking Herrera. Cozart is blocking Peraza. Cozart has one year of team control remaining and the Reds will try to deal him. BP will probably continue to refuse to be dealt and the Reds may be best served by outright releasing him.
Most evaluators still see Peraza as a 2B long-term. Two organizations (Braves and Dodgers) already gave up on him as a SS. Reds gave him another shot last year, but I really don’t see him sticking at short. His arm is probably better suited for 2B.
Agree with TCT. Saw most of Peraza’s games last year at SS and he looked average-ish, which should be fine if he hits .280/.310/.360 and steals 30 bags @ 75% success rate. That’s, what, like a 1.5-2.0 WAR player at SS?
reminds me of Devin Mesoraco in fantasy drafts last year…