Don’t Pay for Josh Hader
Josh Hader is unquestionably awesome. He was probably baseball’s best reliever in 2018. In addition to his insane 47% K rate, he posted a 2.43 ERA and 0.81 WHIP in 81.3 IP. For fantasy purposes, his 12 SV and 6 W were instrumental in sustaining his value. However, he’s now going just outside the Top 100 (ADP of 105 in Rotowire Online Championship leagues since 2/1/19) and that’s just too high.
The performance will almost certainly be great again, but the saves and wins will be unpredictable and hard to rely on. Pitching in high leverage will ensure some of each, but that’s a hefty price to pay. Plus, relievers are insanely volatile so there’s always a chance he isn’t quite the superstar on the ratios. At any rate, this is less about being a Hader Hater and more about bypassing him at his cost and picking up another middle relief superstar much later.
This is for non-holds 12-15 team mixers. The ADP is from the Rotowire Online Championship which is a 5×5 12-teamer.
Here are four to consider:
Ryan Pressly | HOU – 332 ADP
The Astros are credited with “discovering” Pressly, but he wasn’t a bum with Minnesota. The talent was there, they just sanded into excellence. Before the trade, he fanned 33% with a 24% K-BB, 3.40 ERA, and 1.36 WHIP in 47.7 IP. Once he arrived in Houston, they dialed up his breaking ball usage from 51% to 65% and it fueled a brilliant 23.3-inning run where he fanned 38%, walked just 4% (the key difference after a 9% mark in MIN), and posted a 0.77 ERA/0.60 WHIP combo.
He’ll enter his age-30 season as the primary setup man to closer Roberto Osuna and could vulture a handful of saves and wins of his own pitching in key 7th/8th inning spots. He also has three seasons of 70-plus innings, so hopefully they aren’t bashful about his usage. He’s going over 200 picks later than Hader and could be just as good in 2019.
Taylor Rogers | MIN – 359 ADP
Once a teammate of Pressly (imagine that 1-2 punch in the back of their bullpen), Rogers enjoyed a breakout season in 2018 with career-bests in strikeout rate (29%), walk rate (6% – tied previous best), ERA (2.63), and WHIP (0.95). A new slider gave a dynamic 1-2 breaking punch similar to Pressly and yielded major dividends. Now the 28-year old southpaw finds himself in a key role for the Twins, setting up Blake Parker and Trevor May.
Neither righty has been anointed the primary closer, but regardless of how that plays out, Rogers will likely be able to nab a few saves when a string of lefties are due up in the ninth. His big season included a sharp improvement against righties, pushing his K-BB rate from 6% to 18%, so a ninth inning featuring a lefty-righty-lefty setup shouldn’t preclude him from the save opportunity. More chances against righties would also push his innings higher and break last year’s 68.3 career record.
Ryan Brasier | BOS – 311 ADP
With Craig Kimbrel still on the block and unlikely to return in Boston, Brasier is actually in the closer mix with Matt Barnes, yet he goes a nice 69 picks later. More on that later. This is your best bet if you just want some save potential. He came up in the second half and stabilized the bridge to Kimbrel and then became a key asset in the World Series run, giving him a combined 83 innings between Triple-A, MLB, and the postseason.
He didn’t have the gaudy strikeout rate of a Hader or Pressly, but his 16% SwStr rate was a top 15 mark among relievers with at least 30 innings and portends many more strikeouts going forward. A toe issue has limited him in spring and likely explains his ADP gap with Barnes, but it creates a buying opportunity as his skills are right in line with Barnes.
Tanner Scott | BAL – Undrafted
The flamethrowing lefty got 53.3 innings with the Orioles last year and had flashes of what could be, but sputtered more often than not en route to a 5.40 ERA/1.56 WHIP combo. I’m keeping an eye on the 97.1 mph fastball, 32% K rate, and 17% SwStr rate as a foundation to greatly improve. Scott tied Blake Treinen for the fourth-most 3+ strikeout games last year at 15 (and you could say it was the third-highest as Ryan Yarbrough is kinda cheating). By the way, Hader – unsurprisingly – came in at the top with an absurd 29.
This is more of a draft-and-hold/AL-Only play right now because he’s not being drafted in Rotowire Online leagues, but if he develops like this stuff suggests he can, he could push Mychal Givens for that closer’s role in Baltimore. He does need to figure out righties before that can happen, though.
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There are obviously tons of candidates for something like this. Jordan Hicks is a well-known one which is part of why I didn’t include him, but he even goes 100 picks later than Hader. The loser of the Corbin Burnes/Brandon Woodruff battle for the fifth spot could be a total relief stuff in the mold of Hader and give the Brewers an absurd right/left combo.
A healthy Yankees rotation will leave Doming German and/or Jonathan Loaisiga on the outside looking in and either of them could be an amazing reliever. Not to mention the relievers they already have like Dellin Betances, Chad Green, and Adam Ottavino. Ray Black in San Francisco. Joe Kelly in Los Angeles. Joe Jimenez in Detroit.
Who are some of your favorite up-and-coming middle relievers?
I think this is HIGHLY league dependent. In a standard 5×5 roto, in my experience it doesn’t do you much good to start even a really good reliever week to week unless they’re the closer. However, the Andrew Millers and the Haders, guys who are capable of providing volume and huge K numbers with the occasional vulture W or SV do have value and actually can be preferable to start over many lesser SPs week to week.
I don’t know what Hader’s true value is for this year – can’t be better than last year right? The Ks seem for real though and I’m not sure there is another pure reliever with his volume K upside. The Brew Crew seems willing to let him throw multiple innings if need be.
While I probably agree that taking him at his ADP isn’t great, I’m not sure the solution is to draft the other guys later. They’re not the same beasts. Just my .02
Yahoo leagues w inning caps love guys who throw mid relief
Yea, I mean in a daily league ADP of 100 might be too low for him, lol. Weekly lineups though, different story.
If Hader isn’t worth his current cost, whether would you buy him? I bought Hader for $1 in an NL Only last year and can keep him for $3 now, but if I keep him it means dropping a $3 Nimmo. I’m tempted to keep the hitter and go bargain hunting for RP again, but all of the ranks seem to have Hader higher. Who would you rather have?
I’d rather have Hader over Nimmo, all things equal.
Hader by a mile. Nimmo is an average outfielder but Hader is an elite reliever.
Which doesn’t mean much. Realmuto is an elite catcher while, I don’t know, Wil Myers is a pretty average OF. Yet they’re very close in value (Myers went for more in LABR, even).
Wondering which categories you use. Generally go against the other opinions here and go with Nimmo, who still has a chance to produce more as he’s a really good hitter.
Chad Green (cough, cough)
In a holds league I think he’s worth drafting around pick 100 for sure.
No doubt, but that’s an entirely different discussion.
Diego Castillo. Excellent rookie year, and I see him getting the bulk of save opportunities. Stanek’s the opener, and Alvarado is too valuble as a lhp to give 50 save opps to. That leaves Roe and Castillo, and Castillo is the superior pitcher.
As a cheap Alvarado owner, I hope you are wrong. (I’ll pick up Castillo cheap, too, but he’s useless in my league since we have separate SP and RP, with all people who qualify as SP being SP only, and his opening makes him a SP.)
Paul…Great article! I was just looking at who I could draft late in my 18 team H2H league and a lot of these names came up. Any thoughts on Reyes Moronta? The guy has top 17 Pval on three different pitches in 2018.
Great name! Big fan!!
I never draft starting pitchers, and tend to rely on guys like Hader and Betances and Green to keep my ratios and strikeouts going. Not great to draft them at 110, but if they’re there at 150 they’re a big help.
My personal favorites are Adam Conley, Dan Altavilla, and Kyle Crick
Kyle Crick 60inn 65ks, if he can cut down on the walks he could be nice
Not in the majors yet, but for deeper/dynasty leagues I’d be keeping a close eye on Darwinzon Hernandez, BOS. Filthy stuff from the left side, and the MLB squad has some serious bullpen holes.
If you like Darwinzon you’ll love Durbin Feltman. https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa3007959&position=P
Richard Rodriguez and Scott Oberg are two of my favorite $1 RPs this year. RichRod probably has the closest makeup to Hader. Oberg is just going to be the new Adam Ottavino in Colorado. Same diving slider.
Also watch out for Josh James to dominate from the pen this year.
Getting to Burnes/Woodruff and German/Loaisiga also points out the bonus of having guys who qualify for both RP and SP, so you can get extra bullpen bang for your buck. That certainly helps as a way to play the system if you’re on Yahoo.
At his current ADP of 122 on NFBC, he’e being drafted as the 42nd P off the board, and 13th reliever among the total group of P’s. Even with slight regression of S and W, he should still provide value, just not upside. He was top ten P last year in that format right?
I see him going right where he should this year, there’s a safe floor but you are right on if the idea is upside value. There is little room this year.
Dude is the best reliever in baseball. Draft skills////proven skills all day long over pie in the sky upside. Hope Vader falls even more.
Reyes Moranta, Amir Garrett, and a healthy Jose Castillo and Jose Alvarado are some of my favorites this year.
Great group! I love Garrett. I think Alvarado might have the closer’s role, too!
Jose Castillo is an absolute monster.
We drafed in Brad’s 5×5 home league the other night and I regularly carry four or so non-closing RP (6-man bench) to both create a composite ace (though more ratios than the far fewer expected vultures wins) and because skills often graduate to saves. In addition to Rodgers, Pressly and Green mentioned here I have Buttrey, so that’s the one I’d add.
seranthony dominguez is the truth.
Josh Hader IS the truth !
If you play in SV+H leagues (and you should) then Hader is worth it.
Not an up and comer, but, Andrew Miller could post Hader numbers for 1/3 the cost.
haha
The correct answer is Amir Garrett. Garrett.
He’s a young 26 as there’s not a ton of wear & tear on the arm from being a two-sport athlete. He was outstanding through Jun 26 when he got hit on the leg with a ball. Then struggled with different ailments (leg bruise, Achilles issue, bone bruise on his foot) on an off for the rest of the year.
Seth Lugo 78 IP in 49 relief appearances. The Mets will be better this year too. Good FB/CB combo, just needs to bump the K’s up a bit.
Roto leagues, I usually go heavy on elite RP. I just joined a Roto Dynasty and was wondering what you guys think about the RP over SP.
Yo dude, when can we expect your OF and RP rankings? Draft season is in full swing and pre season rankings start to lose effectiveness in 12 days!
I love you and everything you do. Can you please do more faster.
Given that a typical league can start 7 or more pitchers in any given day, an elite RP is a starting position to me. There’s a reason they finish ahead of lousy closers on the player rankings. Once I’ve got my top 3 SP’s I will take elite relievers, be them closers or otherwise. And usually before any bench bats too unless a guy with flexibility who will start 80+ times falls into my lap.
Love the list, Paul and many of the comments. The one name I’d add is Sergio Romo as someone who has potential in Miami
6 wins/ 12 saves/2.43 e.r.a./0.81 w.h.i.p./143 k’s/81 innings.
Naaagh, you don’t want to draft him……rather have several streamers in your rotation and a maybe closer, who’ll give you meh ratios, and exactly how many more k’s ?
To be fair, you can’t count on 6 wins and 12 saves in 2019. As long as Knebel is healthy Hader won’t be getting many saves. I agree I’d rather have Hader than streaming a starter with that roster spot, but Hader should not be counted on to be better than a top 40 P.
At this time last year Hader’s long term role was in question. I was hoping he would morph into a cheap ace and instead he ended up as an elite middle reliever. Part of the reason he ended up in relief for all of 2018 is a result of the Brewers environment. They dont have a lot of great starters but they jave a great offense – having Hader in middle relief allows the Brewers to capitalize in games where it counts and secure the win. If a mediocore starter has a bad day and the game is a lost cause, they leave Hader on the bench. If another mediocore starter has a great three innings but then the wheels come off, in comes Hader. If a mediocore starter has a bad day but Yelich hits a grand slam to get back in the game, in comes Hader.
The point is Hader is what he is cause it fits what the team needs right now… but what the team needs could all change later this season or firther down the road. Dont draft or avoid Hader thinking he is just a middle reliever- he is the Ace of the Brewers and will do whatever this team asks of him even if it is in the bullpen.
Carl Edwards. I know he’s risky with the control, but the upside is enormous and he might become the closer.