Deep Sleeper SP: Charlie Furbush

One of the things I’ll be watching this Spring is how the Seattle Mariners are using Charlie Furbush and what kind of results Blake Beavan and Hector Noesi are getting. If you listen to the organizational talking heads, it really seems to suggest that the rotation going into the season will be Felix Hernandez, Hisashi Iwakuma, Erasmo Ramirez, Beavan, and Noesi. As a Mariner fan, that should depress the hell out of you, but as far as fantasy baseball is concerned, Charlie Furbush is probably way more talented than the two at the back end of the rotation.

In 2012, Furbush started exactly zero games but he wasn’t just used to get left handers out. Furbush did dominate left handers, holding them to just a .143/.217/.187 slash line, but he held right handed hitters to a respectable .195/.289/.349 line, facing just shy of 100 batters.

He did have a triceps issue, which limited his innings to just over 46. But in that time, he gave up just 28 hits, striking out 29% of batters, finishing with a 2.72 ERA (2.81 FIP) and 0.95 WHIP. His BABIP probably helped him, down at .231, but his strand rate and HR/FB rate weren’t completely out of the ordinary, so his success wasn’t wrapped up in massive luck nor a big platoon advantage.

Furbush is just 26 and ZiPS seems to believe he’s capable of a 27% K rate and a low-3’s ERA over 55 relief innings, comparing him to Michael Gonzalez. The Gonzalez comp is interesting because at age 26, he was one of the better relievers in baseball when he put up a 1.25 ERA and 0.88 WHIP. I’m not suggesting that’s in store for Furbush, and neither is ZiPS, but hey, Gonzalez was a feared reliever for a solid four years, and was no slouch in 2012 either.

But what about Furbush as a starter? Last year, he used mostly a two seam fastball and a slider/curve that no two classification systems can really agree on. But that was entirely as a reliever. If you’re a believer in Baseball Info Solutions data, however, it suggests that Furbush has a change-up that he used when he was starting games in 2011, and that it wasn’t half bad, either. Whether his combination of two-seamer/slurvey thing/change-up is enough to find success every fifth day, I don’t know — but the Mariners are likely to find themselves facing a choice on Furbush after watching Beavan and/or Noesi get throttled in Spring Training.

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Here’s a couple quick (obligatory) gif’s for you if you’re completely unfamiliar with Furbush. Both of these are from 2011 when he was starting games, the first featuring the big sweeping curve thing and the second a look at his change-up (and Miguel Olivo screwing up, again):

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Yeah, I know — two cherry picked gif’s don’t make a season, but I’m a visual learner and I like to actually see a delivery.

The Mariners could sign Joe Saunders. They could trade for Chris Capuano. They could sign Kyle Lohse. They could envision Furbush only as a LOOGY. A lot of things could happen. But looking objectively at their rotation as it stands, I’d peg Furbush about as talented as anyone in there not nicknamed ‘King’. The Mariners are also notorious for pigeonholing players into roles that diminish their value (see Jaso, John). But should you be interested in very low-cost options during your draft, keep an eye on Beavan, Noesi, and Furbush, and try to listen to what the M’s brass is spewing as March comes to a close. Charlie Furbush just might be a great little sleeper pick.





Michael was born in Massachusetts and grew up in the Seattle area but had nothing to do with the Heathcliff Slocumb trade although Boston fans are welcome to thank him. You can find him on twitter at @michaelcbarr.

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Aaron Murray
13 years ago

You forgot to mention that Furbush is from Maine!

wily moMember since 2020
13 years ago

king erasmo would like a word with you in his office

gnomez
13 years ago

The Gonzalez comp doesn’t make much sense to me. Apart from an outlier season as a rookie, every one of Gonzalez’s seasons had a worse walk rate than Furbush has ever posted at any level.

Aussie Mariner
13 years ago
Basebull
13 years ago
Reply to  Aussie Mariner

Obviously they know more about Furbush’s arm than we do, but I still think he deserves another shot at starting. His peripherals looked solid during his last starting stint aside from an absurdly high and unsustainable HR/FB ratio that didn’t repeat in 2012. He flashed a changeup in 2011 that was at least serviceable enough to be thrown 10% of the time. The team’s got a loaded bullpen but obvious holes in the rotation – give it a shot in the spring and if it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out.

Eric Dykstra
13 years ago

I’m really hoping Furbush is given another shot at starting, but I highly, highly doubt he will be given the chance.

wily moMember since 2020
13 years ago
Reply to  Eric Dykstra

not with kevin millwood still available

SeanTronX
13 years ago
Reply to  wily mo

I know he isn’t a pitcher, but Stubbs could make things difficult for Furbush.

James R
13 years ago

Time to call in the calvary. Paxton, Hultzen etc

KJ
13 years ago

He’s so sleeper he doesn’t even know it!
I had him in 2011 but dropped him for the Kaiser once he got booted to relief. I think he could be a good starter, but in the mid/long term they hopefully will be all set with starters from their rookie crop so why not just keep him as the effective mid-reliever he is?

JoeC
13 years ago
Reply to  Michael Barr

It’s because they’re a badly-run franchise. They often do things that don’t make sense. Like the recent mortgaging of the farm to King Felix. Horrendous move (I don’t buy the “frictional costs” argument) and one doomed to make them a horrible team for the foreseeable future.