Dallas Keuchel’s New Slider Still Looks Good

I asked twitter if I should write about Dallas Keuchel, Marcus Semien and Jonathan Schoop, or Brad Miller, and they spoke definitively: what’s going on with Brad Miller? So I wrote up Brad Miller and then I discovered that Blake Murphy had done the same. So he might include some of my charts and analysis, he might not, but we were too similar.

And I start again, with the second-most requested topic: Dallas Keuchel, come on down!

Keuchel was one of my pre-season deep league favorites, based on pitch-type peripheral analysis. What I noticed last year was that he’d turfed a bad curve for a good slider. He continued that trend this year. Take a look at the swing and ground-ball rates on his curve and slider over the last three years:

Year Pitch Use Velocity Whiff% GB%
2012 Curve 15% 72.3 5.9% 52.6%
2013 Curve 6.70% 75.5 9.0% 52.0%
2014 Curve 80.2
2012 Slider 84.1
2013 Slider 19.50% 80.0 20.3% 50.8%
2014 Slider 21.50% 80.5 20.6% 37.5%

I’ll take a pitch with above-average whiff rates and average ground-ball rates over a pitch with average ground-ball rates and below-average whiff rates. And so will Keuchel. The new slider goes faster than his old curve, and it also breaks away from lefties.

That last point is huge. Keuchel’s best pitch was his change-up. We have him with a 13% whiff rate on the pitch in 2012, but BrooksBaseball had him at 16% — let’s call it an average change-up for whiffs (15% = average). The pitch is more than ten miles per hour slower than his fastball, and features good horizontal movement.

But the change-up has reverse platoon splits, and that can be problematic even for a lefty. Ask Martin Perez. With the curve not really working for him, and not really boring away from lefties, the move to the slider made a lot of sense. In 2012, lefties hit .237/.333/.417 off him (.231 BABIP). In 2013, with the slider, they hit .273/.327/.423 but with a .360 BABIP. The BABIP hid what the per-pitch metrics showed.

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So now, the slider is getting tons of whiffs, and the change-up is looking better. That’s probably because he hasn’t thrown a single change-up to a lefty this year. He doesn’t have to, he has weapons against them now with the sinker and the breaker.

Given his arsenal, it’s tempting to name him a pickup in all leagues. He has a sinker that gets 66% ground-balls, an above-average change-up for righties, and a plus slider for lefties. That’s all he needs!

Wander on down to his zone percentage, though, and you might get worried. Not even 35% of his pitches are in the zone! The good news is that it might not matter. Keuchel’s ball rates on his off-speed stuff aren’t good — perhaps he’s still trying to command them better — but his two-seamer (according to BrooksBaseball) gets a 25% ball rate, which is elite. That’s how he’s put up elite walk rates in the minors. He’s also getting strike one 65% of the time, which is sustainable and excellent.

Keuchel only throws around 90 mph, so don’t drop an established pitcher for him. But as a guy that gets ahead on strike one and gets grounders with a sinker he can command, and then has two putaway pitches that break in different directions, this lefty is a mixed leaguer now.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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centerfield ballhawk
12 years ago

Great writeup, Eno. You’ve touted him all year and after watching some of his last start I’ve walked away impressed. A rising strikeout rate, added velocity, three quality pitches that he seems to have complete control over… and he’s just 26 years old.

jcoats
12 years ago

Keuchel or Mejia?

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  jcoats

per IP, Mejia. more IP for Keuchel, so specifics of your league matter.

FeslenR
12 years ago
Reply to  jcoats

Mejia, he has a better fastball, but keep an eye on Dallas, as Mejia is injury prone.

stonepie
12 years ago

i was hoping someone would make this post. he’s 19th in the league in xfip right now and has been treading the right direction for a while now

Benjiboy
12 years ago

Would it be worth dropping a Drew Hutchinson or Robbie Erlin for him in a 14 team roto league that includes k/9?

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Benjiboy

I would. Probably Hutchison.

Monty Bayes
12 years ago

With Sale to the DL I’m scrounging for SP help and noticed Keuchel. In a QS league how would you rank Keuchel, Tyson Ross and Travis Wood? How much will the Astros MLB-worst defense hurt Keuchel’s numbers?

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Monty Bayes

He’s keeping the ball out of play. I’d rather have him than Ross or Wood if you have to play them every time out. Ross at home, just for home starts, is great though.

Monty Bayes
12 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Good advice, thanks.

atoms
12 years ago

Hey Eno, this is OT but I posted this in Karl’s Espinosa article and got no replies, and you are usually awesome about responding:

Callaspo, Espinosa, or LeMahieu in a 5×5 OBP league? Callaspo has been hitting in the middle of the order, but he has a tough home park. LeMahieu has a better park, but he’s been hitting 8th in front of the pitcher (which helps his OBP but not the counting stats). Espinosa seems like more of a wild card. More power, good lineup, but higher downside risk and potential OBP difficulties.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  atoms

Espinosa’s lease on life seems the shortest. I think I’d go with Callaspo.

atoms
12 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Thanks for responding, Eno!

Bill
12 years ago

You like Keuchle over Drew Smyly? QS league.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Bill

no, Smyly will start getting his innings in soon.

Nick
12 years ago

Is Keuchel a must own in a ten team AL only league?

FeslenR
12 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Not really, Keuchel’s issue is his team, he will give you decent performances…but his team will cost him and your team.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Absolutely. Ten team AL-only? Absolutely.

Jeff
12 years ago

How about a different comparison? Most of the earlier ones are with young/unproven guys.
Keuchel, Beckett, or Morrow? Deep mixed league that counts QS and wins.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Jeff

Still behind the veterans for me.

Garbo
12 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

How about Keuchel for Erasmo or Nolasco?

frank
12 years ago

G’day Eno,

Keuchel is getting it done & is looking good!

A Semien & Schoop write up would be great though if you get a chance.

Cheers!

Eric
12 years ago

Keuchel or Odorizzi?

Cody
12 years ago

Keuchel is a lefty, correct? His slider breaks IN on lefties? Maybe I’m misinterpreting something, but that seems counterintuitive. Could someone please explain?

jon grant
12 years ago

Drop Salazar for Dallas K? QS/ERA/K/WHIP 13 team league. Salazar is killing me

Clive Frobisher
12 years ago

Would you drop Kyle Gibson and/or Jon Niese for Keuchel? 14 team mixed league. SP stats, W, CG, K, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, and QS.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago

Keuchel over Gibson for me, but it’s close.

jaymes
12 years ago

Keuchal or Paxton the rest of the way? also, $100 free agent budget, dynasty league, need another starter for at least 6 weeks while paxton on the shelf. Trying to contend this year, what would you spend on Keuchal? even as a rental for the next 5-6 starts. thanks!