Catchers Whose Ownership Rates Should Rise

Unless you play in a one-catcher league (bo-ring, to me, but I totally get why some people do it) or subscribe to a strategy that purports the selection of two top-rated catchers, you’re faced with the prospect of ownership of some serious crap at the position in at least one of your two C spots. We can’t all draft Devin Mesoraco. (Those who did may want to see what he’d fetch in a trade.) Some of us ended up with Alex Avila’s .175/.283/.250 and 58.3 contact rate through 47 plate appearances. (The Detroit Tigers tell us that he’s working through that awful start. Fingers crossed. At least he’s practically assured playing time.)

Despite the turnover that we often see in rotisserie or head-to-head leagues, there isn’t as much of it among backstops, for the same reasons that some of us prefer not to put much emphasis on the position in our auctions or drafts. We don’t expect one to make a significant difference more than another once we get that deep. Health is a greater concern for backstops than it is for other position players. They don’t play as often as other regulars because of the rigors of the position. Etc., etc., etc.

As it is, then, playing time (or the prospect of it) is more critical to the “value” of a catcher in fantasy leagues. Of course, if it’s putrid production that comes with the playing time, like anyone reasonably expected of Kurt Suzuki, then some of us don’t want it. But the negative impact of a dull catcher is diminished for the same reasons that owners tend to pay little for catchers.

The incentives to recycle low-end catchers aren’t great. I’m a Carlos Ruiz owner in two leagues, and I’m quite happy about it, although that’s because I expect his production to be at least adequate by season’s end. But because of those reduced incentives, there’s the possibility that some of us glaze the few opportunities that present themselves at the position.

Yasmani Grandal, San Diego Padres

This is the one that really makes no sense to me. He’s owned in only one-fifth of CBS leagues, and hardly at all in Yahoo! or ESPN leagues. I understand if he wasn’t on your draft radar. But at this point, the information says that your radar was probably missing something, or you didn’t check out RotoGraphs’ consensus rankings with projection system averages.

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The Friars have already made their position clear by divvying up the playing time between Grandal and Nick Hundley at a 2:1 rate in favor of the switch-hitting backstop who’s coming off August reconstructive knee surgery. In the early going, Grandal has acquitted himself with a .297/.395/.405 slash line.

Fantasy owners can’t necessarily expect top-level production from Grandal, 25, at least in terms of power. The strength around his knee can’t be at full capacity yet and is likely compromising something in his lower half. And PETCO Park kind of sucks. But the skills that made him so intriguing to the Padres when they traded for him before the 2012 campaign and that allowed him to hit .297/.394/.469 in 226 plate appearances that year are still intact. The threat of a PED suspension last season is one of a host of factors that could help to explain his tailspin in 2013. Whatever they are, they’re likely in the past.

A catcher who receives the majority of the PT and is a probable asset in the batting average category is plenty useful in fantasy leagues. GM Josh Byrnes told the team’s official site earlier this month that Grandal could make a quick recovery because there wasn’t collateral damage, so to speak, in other areas of his right knee. As long as Grandal continues to move toward 100 percent health, his upside will increase along with it.

Josmil Pinto, Minnesota Twins

I was a bit stunned that his ownership figures weren’t greater when I searched for them. He’s owned in only about a quarter of CBS leagues, where the competition tends to be fiercer, or at least deeper. The justification to roster Pinto exists in any two-catcher league of 10 teams or more, however. Even the CBS figure should pick up, I think.

You can’t be shocked that Pinto is here. He was a popular sleeper at the position even after the Twinkies signed Suzuki. Once it became clear that they were serious, though, the bandwagon lost some riders. But Pinto has garnered 56 plate appearances and has already hit four home runs. The .233 average is of course immaterial, especially because of his willingness to accept a free pass in the early going. We know of his talent as a hitter; it’s how the Twins justified his spot on the opening-day roster.

You may fairly view this opportunity for PT as a short-lived one. Pinto’s at-bats became regular after Oswaldo Arcia and Josh Willingham both went on the DL (and after they added more fiber to their diet). Chris Hermann’s addition to the bench is what allowed Ron Gardenhire the flexibility (in his mind) to use Pinto at DH every day.

But there are several ways in which Pinto may remain more than relevant. Arcia is dealing with right wrist pain; Willingham, a small fracture in his left wrist. Willingham, especially, is no stranger to injuries, and the maladies for either player could linger. There’s also the possibility that Chris Colabello and Jason Kubel aren’t All-Stars, though I’m a quasi-believer in the former.

If Aaron Hicks’ struggles extend through May, then they’ll have to consider a Plan B in center. Unless that Plan B is the recently claimed Sam Fuld, Darin Mastroianni clears waivers or they want to depend on some other scrub from the farm, it’s not clear what that is, but it’ll require some roster shuffling: The Twins have excess corner outfielders and DHs, and they’ll have to something with one or two of them. It’s hard to believe that some team may really miss Alex Presley.

Pinto’s ability as a hitter is probably going to keep him relevant, even if he receives only 10 plate appearances a week on occasion. I picked him up in Tout Wars (15-team mixed league) before the season began and released because of some roster crunching, but I kind of regretted it, and now he’s owned. This is a really murky situation, but I think it’s justifiable to keep him active in a league like that, and even in some shallower ones, in the long term.

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Nicholas Minnix oversaw baseball content for six years at KFFL, where he held the loose title of Managing Editor for seven and a half before he joined FanGraphs. He played in both Tout Wars and LABR from 2010 through 2014. Follow him on Twitter @NicholasMinnix.

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leeroy
12 years ago

I have Pinto in my everyday lineup. Granted, my other options are Miguel Montero or the waiver wire, but he has pretty much been serving as the DH for MIN at this point and is getting everyday PAs. Top 50 in ESPN hard-hit average rankings. Also in a spot in the lineup where he comes up a lot with guys on base.

Satoshi Nakamoto
12 years ago

I have Rosario and Mesoraco, using both when both start or just 1 if 1 has an off day. Hoping I can pad my counting stats by filling my Catcher spot more than other managers.

atoms
12 years ago

Wow, *another* fangraphs writer crapping on 1-catcher leagues. Seriously, I don’t get it. Is the joy of figuring out how to squeeze production and at-bats out of Ryan Lavarnway and Jose Lobaton really that compelling?

atoms
12 years ago

I’m playing in a 12-team mixed league with 27 roster spots. Even starting catchers usually get around 125-130 starts, and they might slump or get injured, so it could be worth having a backup or someone with C-eligibility to plug in. So in a 12-team mixer, there are probably 18-20 catchers taken, just to allow folks to manage that single roster spot. Realistically, that’s about as many decent hitting catchers with significant playing time as there are in the majors. If you have 2 catcher spots to fill, you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel both in terms of offensive output and playing time. Why would you want to go through the trouble of sifting through the garbage in order to get close to cobbling together 324 catcher starts (162 x 2)? Catcher isn’t that great an offensive position anyway. Would you want to have two SS spots? No.

atoms
12 years ago

*manage that single lineup spot

atoms
12 years ago

Thanks for the response. Sorry to come across so strongly, but seeing fantasy experts like yourself (and Brad Johnson) have such a strong preference for something that makes little sense to me felt kind of baffling. I guess I was wondering what exactly I was missing, here. 🙂

Sterling
12 years ago

How come there is so much support for 2 C’s and so little for LF, CF, RF. I find dividing up my outfield is a more satisfing challenge then chasing lower tiered catchers.

Cuck City
12 years ago
Reply to  atoms

I dont respect you unless you play in a 2 catcher NL EAST only league

David
12 years ago
Reply to  Cuck City

16-team league at that

LarryA
12 years ago

How valuable is Pinto in a 1-catcher keeper league? Can he be a top 12 catcher in 2015?

lee.c.c
12 years ago

should i drop yan gomes for pinto in 12 teams mixed league?

ms
12 years ago

Grandal owner here. The Padres are actually doing a bizarre 3 catcher thing…Rene Rivera I believe has actually made more starts than either Grandal or Hundley. I’m hoping that as Grandal’s knee proves healthy they either play him more or give him some at bats at first base instead of Alonso. The good news is that Bud Black has moved him up from initially 8th in the order to more of the middle of the order when he does play.

randplatyMember since 2020
12 years ago

Once Carlos Quentin comes off the DL, they won’t be able to keep 3 catchers.

The 3 catcher thing is already a problem as Alonso has had to play some innings at 3rd because they don’t have another backup infielder. Either Hundley or Rivera will be traded/sent down and Grandal will get more playing time after that. They just don’t want Grandal to stress his knee early in April. Grandal said that Black told him that he wants Grandal playing everyday in September, not in April… so basically they’re saving him.

Andre
12 years ago

Rivera is Cashner’s catcher and has caught Ross the last 2 starts. Playing time for Grandal is in question at this point. Too bad, as I still wonder about his offensive potential.

chrisMember since 2026
12 years ago

Is Pinto better than Conger or Jaso? Any chance you get your own chat around here?

Brendan
12 years ago

Should I Drop Kurt Suzuki for Grandal?

Brendan
12 years ago
Reply to  Brendan

Or should I drop Suzuki for Pinto? help meeeeeeeeeeee

Brendan
12 years ago

Thanks! Ya I’m a bit of a noob at this fantasy thing, appreciate the help.

Jaker
12 years ago

Pinto or Grandal over Sal Perez? Perez has the playing time but he’s never been a walker and is really struggling. OBP league btw.

Jaker
12 years ago

Yeah, my thoughts too but it’s getting harder each to justify playing him during this slump!

stuck in a slump
12 years ago

I was in a situation where I had a lot of 3B and Pinto was available in my 20 team keeper league. I had a hard time justifying it at first, but with Santana’s crazy eligibility and struggling players across the board, I finally pulled the trigger and dropped Headley for Pinto. I’m really hoping that they can keep finding him playing time at the MLB level as it gives my roster crazy flexibility with being able to shuffle Santana to so many positions.

chrisMember since 2026
12 years ago

Is Ramos worth seeing spot in one leagues?

chrisMember since 2026
12 years ago
Reply to  chris

Stupid auto correct ramos worth a spot in obp leagues? He just got cut.

Ruki Motomiya
12 years ago

The problem with Grandal is that he sorta sucks. He doesn’t have power, he probably won’t steal bases and his AVG is not going to stay that high with a .385 BABIP. He doesn’t offer much…I guess if you play a 2 catcher league, but in that case he is still near the bottom of the barrel.

Dan Gladden
12 years ago

I have McCann and C. Santana, but With Santana having 1st, 3rd, and CI availability,would it be a good idea to drop CJ wilson (by far and away my worst starter) and pick up Pinto?

D-Train
12 years ago

Nice article, thanks.

I’m doing a simple exercise in my single catcher 12 team 5×5 – streaming catchers & logging the results of each game.

Due to the sheer number of at bats, my counting stats are skyrocketing but batting average plummeting.

Any advice for streaming catchers? Ride the hot hand or stick with a promising Grandal or Pinto type?

Matt
12 years ago

Good article, thanks.

I have Russell Martin in a 14 team, 1 catcher, OBP + TB league. Would you recommend picking up Grandal or Pinto or Mesoraco (scared by his .607 BABIP) or Salty or sticking with Martin?

Thanks!

Matt
12 years ago

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it. I think I’ll stick with Martin, but also see if I can squeeze Mesoraco onto my roster for now and ride him while he’s hot or until I need the roster spot back.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks again.

abreutime
12 years ago
Reply to  Matt

I dropped Martin for Mesoraco in my 12 team OBP league last week. I would go ahead any do it, since those 4 aren’t that far apart. If Mesoraco is still available, then I can’t imagine that Martin would be snatched up.

Mike
12 years ago

I’m in a deep 20 team dynasty 1 catcher league that uses OPS. I start McCann at catcher & Pinto gets a fair amount of time at my util spot due to injuries and/or slumps. Plus his low avg is offset by awesome ops. Would you have enough faith in Pinto to trade away McCann? Or should I hang onto both as an insurance plan? The fa crop is the likes of Hanigan, Ianetta, etc.

Catamounter
12 years ago

Nick, I know the focus around here tends to be Roto leagues and that in saying I play in a points league I might as well say I play in a Thursday morning bingo league but its a very intense bingo league and I’m old enough to be comfortable with my faults at this point, so here it goes. Josmil Pinto has been a top 10 catcher so far in points leagues that credit BB’s or OBP. Essentially putting up the same value as Jonathan Lucroy. Pinto has a low BAPIP, and reasonable contact and HR/FB gains but is walking at an insane 22% rate. Jonathan Lucroy has seemed OK up to this point but his .350ish BAPIP coupled with a huge jump in GB rate and corresponding decrease in HR/FB rate seem to indicate he could be in trouble once his BABIP corects. Theres a lot of questions I could ask you about interpreting stats this early in the season but in the interest of time my main question is Pinto or Lucroy based on what we’ve seen so far, and throwing in the big assumption that Pinto gets enough PA’s to be worthy in a points league.

libradawg
12 years ago

What’s with the throwaway line about an apparent no-brainer flip of Mesoraco? Let’s forget his position for a moment to realize exactly what he went through just to get whatever ABs he got in order to press too hard through. Nobody succeeds under those circumstances. It hasn’t simply been no secret he’s capable of doing very very cruel things to a baseball, that’s something that’s been a foregone conclusion as a matter of time issue. I don’t care if he hit the DL again, if anything his owners lucked out since they can no longer trade high on him. Of course, if people are paying you for a .400/.530/.700 Catcher then yeah, suddenly no-brainer works. A sane league will value him accordingly.

But then, I always miss things. What am I missing here. Besides the question mark.

S. Uristsa
12 years ago

I have Wieters and Rosario, and was just able to grab Ramos to throw in my DL slot for when he comes back. I’m looking to trade Rosario or Wieters.

Basically, my question is: Should we sell high on Wieters strong start, or has he finally put it all together? His BABIP is a tad high, but overall his numbers don’t look completely out of whack (LD% has jumped, and HR/FB rate is up a tad from last yeaer, but in line with 2012, FB% stable, GB% down, 38th in league in hard-hit average etc). He has the name value and the strong start, so suspect I could get more value for him in a trade, but he has the longer track record and is the right age for a catcher to be moving in his ‘prime’ career years, and in a keeper league that could be really valuable.

Rosario of course has a good home park, and his somewhat high HR/FB rate (15%) is offset by a FB% that is 10ppt lower than his career average. BABIP a tad low, and he’s cut down on his K%.

Jiggypop
12 years ago

Catchers drive me nuts….Grandal vs Jason Castro. What say ye?

Wobatus
12 years ago

Oh my gosh how these 2 have been buried, Pinto now in minors and Grandal in an awful slump since April and deep behind Rivera now, with Hundley gone. I agreed completely these guys were sleepers but the catcher hitter curve has bitten them, and league adjusted to them, something.

I think they are both still going to be good but may take time.