Bullpen Report: Monday, May 11, 2015

After giving up three runs to the Cubs on April 21, birds of concern were circling around Mark Melancon. He came in with a two-run lead against the Phillies on Monday, and proceeded to give up a home run, a trio of sharp liners and a fly ball to centre, and he walked away with his eighth save of the year. His velocity still isn’t where it was, but is it that big of a deal? He’s pretty much scrapped his four-seamer, going with it 3.9% of the time in 2015, down from 27.3% last year. That’s been replaced with increased usage of the cutter, as he’s throwing it 69.6% of the time. That home run he gave up Monday was the first earned run he’d put up since that April 21 debacle, throwing eight scoreless innings to lower his ERA from 8.53 to 3.77. The lack of strikeouts are a cause for concern, and his 8.9% K%-BB% is well off his 25.6% and 25.1% of the past two seasons, but as long as he keeps getting plays made behind him, he’ll be closing games in Pittsburgh. And also in other cities that the Pirates play in.


Jason Grilli was said to be available to pitch Monday night in Cincinnati after his back spasms abated. Luis Avilan pitched the eighth for the Braves, and Jim Johnson got the save in the ninth, as Grilli hung out in the bullpen. The reason that Johnson had a lead to save was another shaky outing for Aroldis Chapman. He wasn’t able to close out the White Sox on Sunday, and the Braves got to him in similar fashion on Monday. He struck out the leadoff hitter, but then gave up a pair of singles. When Phil Gosselin stole third, Chapman pushed him home when he threw his second wild pitch in two days, allowing the go-ahead run to cross the plate. Freddie Freeman singled, so the run would’ve scored anyways. Just a bump in the road for Chapman. The dominant lefty on the night was Tony Cingrani, who struck out the side in the seventh.

The Cubs were expecting to have Neil Ramirez pitching high-leverage innings for them in 2015. He threw off flat ground in Arizona today, which is some of the lowest-leverage throwing that you can do. A good sign, but he’s still a ways away. Justin Grimm just left his buddy in Arizona, and he grabbed his second hold of the season, striking out one in his inning of work. Zac Rosscup pitched a solid eighth for the hold, his fourth. Joe Maddon showed confidence in the lefty after he’d given up four earned runs over his last three appearances, which raised his ERA from 0.93 to 3.65 heading into the game. Hector Rondon got his seventh save of the year for the Cubs.

Boy oh boy. For everyone out there saying how terrible Steve Cishek is, let’s just remember how hard it is to get major league hitters out. I doubt any of us could do it. And we should probably also keep in mind that he’s taking this harder than even the hardest of Marlin fans ever possibly could. There’s no denying that he’s had a pretty crummy five weeks or so. But why? His velocity is down, but it’s no different than it was at this point last year. He hit 92 mph Monday night. He threw eleven sliders towards the Dodgers. Seven for strikes. One whiff. The single that Andre Ethier hit was on a slider, and the home run that Scott Van Slyke hit over the fence to end the game was one of the hangingest sliders that ever hung. Why is he not getting results? He has a .364 BABIP. 53.8% LOB rate. It appears that hitters are recognizing his hittable strikes more this year than they have in the past, as his Z-Swing% is at 65.4%, up from 57.6% last year. Tonight he was all over the place horizontally. How is he going to fix it? Is a DL stint in his future to try to get him sorted out?

Who is next in line? Is a 1.06 ERA and 32.3% K% good for a closer? You’d have to think A.J. Ramos is next in line for a save opportunity. Even if Cishek was on the top of his game, it’s not likely he’d see the field if a save opportunity arises on Tuesday. It would be his third consecutive day of work, and fourth in five days. It’s possible that we could see Ramos Tuesday. Or maybe Mike Redmond shocks and goes with Bryan Morris. The smart money is on Ramos. Redmond could easily hide behind the “day of rest” story if Cishek is skipped Tuesday, but that allows him to reserve the right to keep him in the role and bring him back later in the week. All I’m saying is that if Ramos is on the mound with a chance to save a game, don’t go chopping Cishek. It’s not a guarantee that he’s out of the role. But that green has changed to yellow on the closer grid.

Of Note: Zach Britton earned his seventh save for the Orioles, and Darren O’Day got his fifth hold. They each struck out two Blue Jays in their innings of work. The Brewers continued their recent winning ways, and Francisco Rodriguez garnered his seventh save of the year.

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Closer First Second DL/Minors
Arizona Addison Reed Brad Ziegler Evan Marshall
Atlanta Jason Grilli Jim Johnson Cody Martin
Baltimore Zach Britton Darren O’Day Tommy Hunter
Boston Koji Uehara Alexi Ogando Junichi Tazawa
CHI (NL) Hector Rondon Pedro Strop Jason Motte
CHI (AL) David Robertson Jacob Petricka Zach Duke
Cincy Aroldis Chapman Jumbo Diaz Tony Cingrani Sean Marshall
Cleveland Cody Allen Bryan Shaw Scott Atchison
Colorado John Axford Rafael Betancourt Boone Logan Adam Ottavino
Detroit Joakim Soria Al Alburquerque Joba Chamberlain Joe Nathan
Houston Luke Gregerson Chad Qualls Pat Neshek
KC Greg Holland Wade Davis Kelvin Herrera
LAA Huston Street Joe Smith Vinnie Pestano
LAD Yimi Garcia Chris Hatcher Pedro Baez Kenley Jansen
Miami Steve Cishek A.J. Ramos Mike Dunn
Milwaukee Francisco Rodriguez Jonathan Broxton Will Smith
Minnesota Glen Perkins Brian Duensing Blaine Boyer Casey Fien
NY (NL) Jeurys Familia Carlos Torres Buddy Carlyle Jenrry Mejia
NY (AL) Andrew Miller Dellin Betances Esmil Rogers Chris Martin
Oakland Tyler Clippard Evan Scribner Dan Otero Sean Doolittle
Philly Jonathan Papelbon Ken Giles Luis Garcia
Pittsburgh Mark Melancon Tony Watson Arquimedes Caminero
St. Louis Trevor Rosenthal Seth Maness Matt Belisle Jordan Walden
SD Craig Kimbrel Joaquin Benoit Dale Thayer
SF Santiago Casilla Sergio Romo Jeremy Affeldt
Seattle Fernando Rodney Danny Farquhar Carson Smith
TB Brad Boxberger Kevin Jepsen Ernesto Frieri Jake McGee
Texas Neftali Feliz Keone Kela Shawn Tolleson Tanner Scheppers
Toronto Brett Cecil Roberto Osuna Steve Delabar Miguel Castro
Wash. Drew Storen Aaron Barrett Blake Treinen Casey Janssen

[Green light, yellow light, red light: the colors represent the volatility of the bullpen order.]





Darren contributes to RotoGraphs when he isn’t watching the Braves or shoveling snow. Follow him on Twitter @shinesie.

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Carl
11 years ago

This seems to say both Britton and O’Day got saves Monday night.

SavesBlow
11 years ago

Blown save for Yimi Garcia tonight too

Ben D
11 years ago

Any thoughts on likelihood of Papelbon getting traded?

James Ronstadt
11 years ago

This “expert,” must live a on the east coast…but that’s no excuse for leaving Cishek out of the red. How could this be for a closer sporting a 10.32 ERA, a 2.03 WHIP and a 43% save conversion rate and several plausible alternatives not be in the red? The train has fallen off the tracks for Cishek? And the idea that professional athlete shouldn’t be subject top objective criticids when their performance is lousy on the basis that said professional atlete is more talented thans the vast majority of sports fans is a a total cop out. Under that line of reasponing, only those capable of throwing of reaching a fastball in the 90s (which 99.9% of baseball onlookers have no chance at doing), don’t have the right to be constructively critical. Ridiculous!

BMac
11 years ago
Reply to  James Ronstadt

Hey, James. I actually agree with Darren here. Cishek’s got more lives than the Cheshire Cat, never seems to lose his job. He’s had rough stretches like this before, too, but keeps on comin’ out in the 9th for the Marlins. His manager says: “(Cishek) has done a tremendous job for us,” Redmond said. “But at the end of the day, it’s about winning games. We can’t keep blowing late leads. We’ll see tomorrow, regroup, see where we’re at.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article20726808.html#storylink=cpy

It sounds like he still has some rope, or maybe he is just saying, “Gotta talk to the boss after the game and then he’ll tell me who the closer is.”

Bo Knows
11 years ago
Reply to  James Ronstadt

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen an “east coast bias” claim regarding Florida. :p The rest of the east coast is pretty embarrassed by their existence.

Dylan
11 years ago

I’ve got a theory- hear me out- that the fangraphs writers are in cahoots with Marlins management and want to preserve some of Cisheks value by leaving him in the ninth inning. There is no other explanation for why the writers have been such big Cishek apologists.

fothead
11 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

Maybe because it’s generally wise to base more of your opinion off of track record than 5 weeks of baseball. When doing so Cishek’s struggles, while terrible, seem like they could still turn around.

I mean, if you’re “moving on” to whom are you moving? There has been remarkably little turnover in the first month regarding closers, and outside of Miami, Pittsburgh and Cleveland, there are no currently struggling closers who arent already fill-ins.

IF we don’t start getting some closer injuries, there will be nothing for those of us who routinely count on building a pen through the waiver wire.

So if you drafted one that is struggling, you almost have to ride it out until they are officially out as closer. Trust me, Im a Cody Allen owner several times over, so I get it.

Mike W.
11 years ago

I flat out dropped Cishek this morning. I couldn’t find a taker for him and he is killing my ratios. I have Familia and Soria as my other closers, so at least I’m not totally screwed at the spot. I’m going to try and add Ramos this morning as well, but I disagree that Cishek isn’t done. Previous Marlins team he has closed for have lacked legit alternative options and didn’t have any playoff expectations with a manager on the hot seat. I think he gets the hook as soon as today.

The slider looks broken for Cishek, especially control wise. He seems totally unable to control it like he previously has.

Harold of the Rocks
11 years ago
Reply to  Mike W.

Marlins and playoff expectations in the same sentence? That’s rich.

Mike W.
11 years ago

Doesn’t take much when you play in a division with two terrible teams (Philly and Atlanta).

I’m not saying Miami is going to make the playoffs, but let’s face it Redmond knows that playoff contention is what was expected when they gave Giancarlo that contract and traded/signed veterans like Morse, Prado, Latos, Haren, etc.

Bad teams can hid a bad closer, see guys like John Axford and Addison Reed because expectations are low and they generally get fewer chances. Is the fan base/management going to be up in arms if John Axford blows a save or two in Colorado? Probably not as much as they will be in Miami, because the expectation in Colorado is pretty much last or second to last place. If Cishek was blowing saves for a team that expected to lose like Atalanta or Philly, maybe he gets a longer rope in the hopes of building his value and then trading him. That’s not the case in Miami where Redmond knows he needs to win and I think that could lead to Ramos getting a shot at the job much quicker than he would have the past 2 years.

grassyjones
11 years ago

The “first chair” player on this chart seem inaccurate for the following teams:

Boston
CHI(AL)
Cincy
LAD
Minnesota
Seattle
Texas

awalnohaMember since 2017
11 years ago

Rodney should be green. There is no reason to think he is being replaced any time soon. Half of his ER came in 1 outing. Only 1 BS. Other guys behind him at not dominate either.

Andre
11 years ago

Cishek’s sliders dont have the bite to them, doesnt show up in the stats. Hanging sliders get crushed.

MiamiWeiss21Member since 2017
11 years ago

There is ZERO chance Girardi goes to Esmil Rogers in a high leverage spot. You may want to remove him from the grid, he only pitched in that role because Betances/Miller/Wilson each pitched two days in a row. The correct order should be Miller>Betances>Wilson with Martin on the shelf.