Billy Hamilton’s Realm of 2014 Possibilities
The Reds are a playoff team with a pretty good outfield, but one man is lurking in the background, preparing to steal all your bags, and possibly your heart. The Reds have some decisions to make this offseason, and one question facing them is “what the heck do we do with Billy Hamilton?” In celebration of Hamilton’s spectacular and otherworldly speed, the present offer sought to present some possible outcomes to the most handsome reader.
What you will find below is a possible fantasy line for Hamilton, listed in the following format: AB/HR/R/RBI/SB/AVG. After each line is presented for your viewing pleasure, two numbers follow. The first is the value of that fantasy line in standard mixed leagues, and the second is the value of such a line in NL-only leagues, both of which are calculated by the intrepid author’s own special spreadsheet derived from 2013 Steamer player environment. While fantasy drafts deal in whole dollars, cents are presented to show the differences before rounding.
So, let’s say that the Reds find a spot for Hamilton to play every day, and that the speedster performs pretty darn well with the exception of his batting average. Hamilton hit .256 in AAA this year, and his strikeout rate isn’t ideal for a player without power, so how about a .240 batting average?
600/0/80/40/100/.240
M: $22.52; N: $27.23
550/0/80/40/100/.240
M: $22.92; N: $27.50
500/0/80/40/100/.240
M: $23.30; N: $27.78
Not bad, right? Even with a low batting average, Hamilton’s steals and runs make him a third round choice in mixed leagues and a second round pick in NL-only leagues.
Now, let’s imagine that Hamilton only starts part of the time, while maintaining most of the same rates as above.
300/0/40/20/60/.240
M: -$0.54; N: $11.15
300/0/40/20/80/.240
M: $7.61; N: $16.90
The lack of runs scored really hurts Hamilton here, where even 60 steals makes him waiver wire fodder in mixed leagues. But what if he hits for a better average in that reduced playing time, and thus scores a few more runs, too?
300/0/45/20/60/.250
M: $1.52; N: $12.61
300/0/45/20/80/.250
M: $8.76; N: $17.73
300/0/45/20/60/.260
M: $2.68; N: $13.43
300/0/45/20/80/.260
M: $9.92; N: $18.56
Now we see that Hamilton is a solid late round get in mixed leagues at the worst, which is to be expected.
We’ve gone through some situations in which Billy gets a good deal of ABs, but here’s a look at what happens to Hamilton’s value if the Reds choose to use him primarily as a pinch-runner and defensive replacement — a scenario not out of the question if the team brings back Shin-Soo Choo.
150/0/30/10/50/.240
M: -$6.64; N: $6.93
150/0/40/10/70/.240
M: $2.42; N: $13.31
In mixed leagues, Hamilton will be forever tempting but untouchable with fifty steals, but he’ll still be worth a 15th round selection in NL-only formats. It’s rare, yes, but even with 150 ABs he provides enough value. If Hamilton can snag 70 bags in limited time, his value increases dramatically, but he should still stay on the market until the last three rounds of mixed drafts.
Through Hamilton’s first 10 games, he has received 16 plate appearances (14 ABs), and he’s stolen 12 bags. His batting average is a stellar .429, so I’m presenting a scenario is which his average stays the same, and one in which it falls back down to earth but is still quite good.
227/0/146/16/194/.429
M: $83.7; N: $70.63
227/0/146/16/194/.275
M: $70.25; N: $60.96
Obviously, these lines aren’t going to happen, but there’s no reason we can’t all have a chuckle while looking at them.
Lastly, I put out a call for fantasy stat lines from RotoGraphs writers, and a couple were bold enough to stick their neck out and provide me with some added content. I won’t use their names since it’s not fair for anyone to get stuck with a cruddy projection way before the 2013-2014 offseason even begins, but I will label mine and prepare for public ridicule.
600/0/100/40/120/.250
M: $35.77; N: $36.54
400/0/60/25/60/.225
M: $0.95; N: $12.07
400/0/70/25/85/.230 (Zach’s entirely inaccurate projection)
M: $12.6; N: $20.29
One author believes that Hamilton is a top-5 selection in both mixed and NL-only leagues, while one fears the Dee Gordon treatment. I, on the other hand, see Hamilton as a round 9-12 guy in mixed leagues, but a third or fourth round talent in NL-only formats.
What are your projections for Billy Hamilton’s 2014 campaign? Post your thoughts in the comments and I’ll run the numbers through the calculator. Be sure to include all six necessary stats if you’d like your values calculated.
Zach is the creator and co-author of RotoGraphs' Roto Riteup series, and RotoGraphs' second-longest tenured writer. You can follow him on twitter.
>Blown hammy 1 month in
>is never the same
169/0/10/5/15/.225
M: $0.69; N: $4.20
520/3/110/38/73/.251
I think the home runs will be of the inside the park variety.
M: $21.91; N: $26.72
350/0/65/25/60/.233
M: $3.60; N: $13.96
I’m in a 20 team, 10 keeper league. It is a standard H2H 5×5 league. With very large rosters. I have two spots left to keep, pick two of Hamilton, Bogaerts, and Cueto.
My other keepers are Posey, Votto, Lawrie, McCutchen, Miggy, Jose Bautista, Bumgarner, and Scherzer.
I personally would take Hamilton and Bogaerts of that group. I guess it partially depends on how deep pitching is in your league, but with the base of players you have already as keepers you can afford to play high-risk/high-reward with those last two spots. Obviously if Cueto dominates the playoffs it might change the math, but I still think he’s the odd man out. If you were going to drop one of the other guys I’d say Lawrie is the one to go.
Surprisingly, I’d drop Cueto or try to trade him.
His injuries are going to catch up to him and your team sooner or later….and I’d keep Hamilton and Bogaerts.
I would trade Hamilton RIGHT NOW. His value may never be higher and you should land a much more projectable player.
You know, Hamilton could play the role of Rajai Davis (except with more SBs) even if Choo is retained.
If Baker is smart in 2014 as he had been so far with utilizing the Flash, Hamilton could still see 300-350 PA making him very valuable even for mixed leagues…
I wonder if Hamilton will count as a 2b/Ss in 2014 or is the eligibility gone?
He should be simply OF eligible in all three major outlets, but I’m not sure about ottoneu.
I am stealing this quote.
“Hamilton is going to do to steals, what Randy Johnson did to strikeouts”.
Even with the poor BA he is worth having a starting spot due to his SB, R, base path presence.
I don’t know….anyone who can steal 50+ bases in an NL only league will be drafted before the 15th round, no matter what his BA is.
“Will be” is different than “should be”
515/4/85/40/110/.265
Hype hype hype
M: $34.25; N: $35.57
Have NONE of you learned anything over the years?? If this young man hits .440 during Spring Training and Choo is playing on the Kalamazoo indie team, he should still ride the bench in favor of some reliable veteran journeyman, for at least a couple years. A player needs to SIT AND LEARN the game even if it takes till he’s 28! No sense risking “youngster mistakes” from some guy who isn’t properly seasoned, when you have a perfectly good 4th outfielder who can fill the void, you know?
I’m also concerned that Billy has walked twice already. If gets in that filthy habit he’ll clog up the bases, and you all know what happens then.
Oh my God!!! Is this Dusty Baker? Okay, bench the most useful weapon on your team and see the Cardinals and Pirates earn playoff bids every year. A benched Hamilton makes the Reds a sub-par team in the Central. Baseball has become very young talent orientated, and the team that doesn’t join this philosophy is doomed (aka Yankees and Angels)
So Trout and Harper should ride the pine too?
Just for gits and shiggles, what would Rickey Henderson’s career 162 game average be worth? 702/16/121/59/74/.279
Or his ’85 season: 654/24/146/72/80/.314
Well these will be off because the player environment is much different, but here’s how they’d be if he did it in 2013 for Mixed leagues.
AVG: $40.09
’85: $60.72
524/86/3/45/40/.261 (Scott Podsednick’s age 30 season -0.3 WAR from baseball-reference)
Why 0 HRs? He hit 6 this year. Also only 75 SB in AAA. He’s Otis Nixon/Ron Leflore until further notice. Then he can be Willie Wilson if he’s really really lucky.
I’m bearish. Wish he was still a SS.
M: $8.80; N: $17.53
In leagues with daily subs, Hamilton as a 4th OF on the Reds would still provide good value but he’s similar to Rajai Davis right now.
Am I the only one who is somewhat optimistic on his ability to get on base? He clearly has the speed for bunt base hits and beating out infield grounders, keeping that babip high. in 2012 he showed the ability to walk. I don’t see why he can’t go
550/90/1/39/90/.266
What position eligibility will he have on Yahoo next year? Right now he has SS only for some reason.
You need 5 starts or 10 appearances to qualify the following year. So as of right now, he would be Util only next year (like Profar was going into this year)
If hes a starting OF obviously he would pick up OF the first week of the season. SS is gone forever though unfortunately.
Thanks.
Speaking of Yahoo eligibilty, David Ortiz will be making his fifth start at 1B in Colorado tonight, which means he retains 1B in Yahoo leagues next year.
I’m thinking most traditional player value calculations aren’t accurate when it comes to a player like Billy Hamilton. The “value” of Hamilton is that he can win a category all by himself, but in practicality an owner is going to count on the rest of his team (in a 12 team league) to earn 6 points in steals and let Hamilton do the rest. So Hamilton is now netting you 6 points in steals. With any luck, he will net you a couple more points for runs. Now subtract a few points each in batting average, home runs, and rbi’s and we are talking about a player who has netted you 2 to 4 points in your league standings.
What am not seeing here? He’s an exciting player to watch, but unless he transforms himself as a hitter, I’m not getting it in terms of his value for fantasy.
I think he’ll have a Vince-Coleman-like rookie season:
Here’s Vince: 636/107/1/40/110/.267
If he plays a full year, I’d guess that Hamilton will be a little better on the base paths, and get lucky on a few more HR’s:
Billy Hamilton: 607/104/4/49/117/.273
I know the Reds have talked about bringing Choo back, but how likely is this, considering the budget of the Reds? And even if they do manage to keep Choo, wouldn’t they move him to a corner and give Hamilton the starting gig in center?
I think the Vince Coleman comparison is pretty apt, but I think Hamilton has enough upside to be a better player. It really comes down to whether you think he can annually maintain a BABIP around .350 and/or a double digit walk rate.