All Aboard the Tyler Saladino Hype Train
No need to fret. The unofficial conductor, who is also the author of this post, does not expect the cabin to reach capacity. Not prior to April, at least.
Brett Lawrie’s time with any organization, not just the White Sox, was ticking away; more writing was scribbled on more walls with each passing year since his debut. So when the White Sox released Lawrie, the first thought on most fantasy owners’ minds was not Where will Lawrie end up? but, rather, When will Yoan Moncada get the call? Moncada, a consensus top-5 prospect, changed socks and is now the marquee name of the South Side’s now-promising future.
Yet one could argue Moncada’s not quite ready for the big show. After raking and running absolutely wild in High-A in 2016, Moncada graduated to Double-A and, well, his performance is open to interpretation. On one hand, his 11 home runs, nine stolen bases and .277/.379/.531 triple-slash in 207 plate appearances amounted to a batting line that was more than 50% better than the league. On the other hand, he struck out more than 30% of the time — and that lack of contact carried over into his Major League debut, during which he struck out in 12 of 20 PAs. The tools are immense, but, at 21, he could definitely use some polish, and the White Sox have no incentive to rush him along.
Allow me to (re)introduce you to Tyler Saladino.
This is not the first time Saladino has graced these pages; indeed, Karl de Vries once wrote about Saladino as a deep-league waiver wire option. In 2015. A lifetime ago, for many babies and a lot of pets. Saladino was once the #2 prospect in a thin Chicago farm, expected to hit — wait for it — 15% worse than league-average. That’s… not good, at least for an organizational #2 prospect who’s not a pitcher.
Yet here we are, chit-chatting about Saladino — Saladino, who has amassed 12 home runs and 19 stolen bases alongside a .257 batting average through his first 573 career PAs. He certainly takes the scenic route to fantasy relevance — he strikes out almost five times more often than he walks — but, at a certain point, you can’t argue against an 8/11/.282 batting line in half a season. Extrapolations can get us into trouble, but a power-speed threat who doesn’t hurt your batting average is an asset, even in shallow leagues. With Lawrie out of the picture, Saladino has an opportunity to seize the keystone for good, or at least for the first five months of 2017.
Saladino is a ground ball hitter, so power will never be his strong suit. The worm-killing approach, however, plays to his strengths: he’s fast, having stolen at least 28 bases in three separate seasons. When he hits the ball in the air, he has been able to notch a home run roughly 10% of the time — consistently, too, through his first two half-seasons. Again, he does not hit the ball hard, so it’s likely his ratio of home runs to fly balls (HR/FB) drops into the single digits, but that still means he scrapes double-digit power in a full season.
Although Saladino’s plate discipline declined in 2016 — he swung more often at bad pitches while making less contact on them — he’s actually a good contact hitter when it counts. His 91.8% zone contact rate (Z-Contact%) ranked in the top 15% of hitters who recorded at least 300 PAs last season. It seems like a matter of sequencing, but given his very solid swinging strike (SwStr%) and contact rates, his strikeout rate (K%) could dip into the mid-teens, helping his batting average in tow. He may not hit for a superb batting average on balls in play (BABIP), but his speed should keep him league-average in that regard at the very least.
You know who Saladino reminds me of? Ender Inciarte, but with less impressive (yet still admirable) contact skills and what appears to be significantly more power. Inciarte walks more, but not significantly more, and Inciarte strikes out less, but (I anticipate) not significantly less. Unlike Saladino, Inciarte sprays the ball to all fields more effectively (and is also left-handed), but both make their money hitting ground balls and legging ’em out. Both the Braves and White Sox project to be bottom-three offenses, making their prorated contributions to the other counting stats roughly equal (although their spots in their respective batting orders could change the distribution of their runs and RBI). The primary trade-off between the two, then, is between batting average and home runs; it’s possible that Inciarte’s contributions to the former outweigh Saladino’s to the latter. Besides that, the two are remarkably similar.
Inciarte is being drafted like a top-50 outfielder (just inside the top-200 overall). I’m not saying Saladino should be drafted similarly — I don’t think he will anyway — but I think that’s the kind of upside we’re looking at with him. (In other words, a fringe starting middle infielder in standard leagues.) His primarily plays second base, not outfield, in the scenario I envision, but he actually played every position last year except for catcher and pitcher, indicating he can aptly fill a super-utility role in the event of an early Moncada promotion. Granted, Robin Ventura, who utilized Saladino that way, no longer mans this ship, and maybe Manager Rick Renteria has other ideas, but the potential still exists.
So, that’s Saladino for you. He’s being drafted as the 27th shortstop off the board, well outside the first 400 players, per NFBC. His situation reminds me of Jonathan Villar’s last year — I believed in Villar, but even I thought he would be displaced by Orlando Arcia sooner rather than later pending a slow start to 2016. He ended up sharing the middle infield with Arcia and becoming a huge part of the Brewers’ rebuilding plans. Saladino’s future is nowhere near as bright, but the threat to his playing time — also by a top prospect — is, like Villar’s last year, not as imminent as the fantasy community may think. That makes Saladino and his potential to post a 12/20/.275* line a must-own in AL-only leagues and a necessary dart throw in deeper mixed formats.
* FanGraphs’ Depth Charts projection, which seems to not appreciate Saladino’s contact skills and speed the way I do, is 13/22/.251 per 630 PAs. Still, this is nearly identical to teammate and double-play partner Tim Anderson, by the way — 12/21/.265 with an even-more-pathetic 3.2% walk rate — who is being drafted as the 12th shortstop and roughly 160th overall in NFBC drafts. Food for thought.
Good stuff!
Agree he’s a smart pickup in an AL league and I apparently got on the Saladino hype train one stop early, about an hour or two before the White Sox cut bait with Lawrie:
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/deep-league-draft-targets-second-base/
In a deep, AL league, Saladino’s positional versatility is helpful because it afford owners more flexibility replacing injured or poor-performing regulars from a shallow free agent pool. It also helps Chicago may unload Frazier during the season.
I agree with your comment on that post; I also already thought he could get enough playing time (not a full season, but maybe 400-450 PAs) to be pretty valuable in AL-only, and then the Lawrie news broke. Kudos!
I would like him a lot more if he were lefthanded, as this (otherwise great) article says, but he’s not.
He is often Hawks Pick 2 Click too! Has to count for something
Comparing Saladino to Tim Anderson is a bit unfair right now. Sure the skills may be similar but Anderson is projecting to:
1. Hit 2nd in the White Sox lineup (Saladino 9th)
2. Get twice as many PAs this year (Saladino weak-side of platoon)
Let’s not act like it’s some absurd miscarriage of justice that Anderson is being drafted much, much higher than Saladino.
1. (Anderson should not be hitting 2nd for any team)
2. This kind of misses the whole point, which is I disagree with FanGraphs’ projected playing time for him. There’s no one battling Saladino for playing time right now, unless the White Sox choose to promote Moncada in late April (or even have him be an Opening Day starter). Otherwise, the White Sox don’t even have enough options to make a platoon in the first place. (Take another look at the depth charts.)
Also… an “absurd miscarriage of justice”? What? I merely identified another player of Saladino’s caliber (again, their projections are eerily similar, and Saladino even edges Anderson by 2 points of wOBA). It was a barometer for the kind of value he could be expected to return. Although, with that said, Anderson is being drafted too high.
For one, Yolmer Sanchez is certainly competing with him for playing time as one could argue that despite Saladino’s great glove – Sanchez’s may even be better. Sanchez has also shown an ability to adjust his second full year at every level and he’s gotten off to a nice start this spring.
2. Saying Anderson shouldn’t be hitting 2nd for any team is bizarre. While Anderson’s OBP has left a lot to desire so far, he’s also been better than everyone thought every step of the way and has every single tool in the book. He’s flashed + power well earlier than thought, and he’s one of the fastest guys in the league. He’s exciting and explosive, and one of the future cogs for the organization. They would like him to learn and plate discipline is his next stride to becoming a 4-5 WAR player on a consistent basis. Anderson will and should hit 2nd for the rebuilding White Sox as he is a focal point of their future.
3. Projection systems have been wrong about Anderson every step of the way so far; he far exceeded expectations and projections last year, and has shown an ability to overcome his swing and miss ways so far. There’s no reason to believe he can’t continue to grow at an incredible rate given that he’s only been playing this game of baseball competitively for 8 years now.
Anderson is > Saladino and has a much higher ceiling. I don’t disagree with Saladino being a nice sleeper in the formats you listed, but Anderson is rightfully being drafted well ahead of him.
He should not hit 2nd. Sorry. He’s projected for an OBP below .300. It’s the worst of any (projected-to-be-)full-time Sox player not named Matt Davidson. It took him a .375 BABIP (which I sincerely doubt he will replicate) to hit 5% worse than league average. He made his professional debut four years ago and never learned to take a free base. Learning patience and contact at the big-league level is a fool’s errand.
He’s not “growing at an incredible rate.” He is staying exactly the same at every level. That he’s not getting worse is the admirable part, but he is not improving as a ballplayer. The defense is plus, and that’s great, but his plate discipline — something ballplayers rarely magically “learn” — has severely limited his upside. Sorry, Rational Fan, but this was not a rational comment.
WHY IS EVERYONE SO UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE DAMN ANDERSON COMPARISON??? Geez.
Yeah, and he was projected to produce under .5 WAR last year and put up 2.4. He’s projected to put up 1.7 WAR this year, and if that number was offered at a sportsbook I would bet heavily on the over. Projection systems have been wrong about Anderson every single step of the way.
Tim Anderson is a raw talent whose game has shown an ability to advance and progress quickly. I would call staying the same at the MLB level as you were at AAA “growing at an incredible rate.” To each his own, I guess.
I argued time and time again that the projections for Anderson last year were very bullish because his profile did not truly represent his abilities; for the first year, I was 100% correct. Anderson is a unique talent; he’s very raw – given his lack of actual baseball experience, but his tools (specifically his hands) are remarkable. Expecting him to have peaked despite having 1/2 the reps as a typical player his age in the big leagues seems pretty crazy.
He’s 23 years old, and has been playing baseball since he was 18 at a reasonable level. He wasn’t even drafted out of high school – he was barely starting in high school. Within 3 years he played himself into a first round pick. If you don’t see growth at an unusual rate, I’m not sure what to tell you. The job of a projection system is to project the majority of players at a high level using statistical analysis; there are players who are outliers for different reasons. Anderson has proven time and time again to be one of those players.
1) Never said he peaked. 2) Yes, to each his own. Growth is the antithesis of stagnation. 3) He was a 2.4 WAR hitter with a BELOW-AVERAGE BAT. This is ROTOGRAPHS. We are talking about FANTASY BASEBALL. His defense DOES NOT MATTER. I am not arguing the merits of his overall play. 4) I’m done talking about this.
Is there any reason to think he is a .330 BABIP hitter? If not, there’s no reason to think he’s a .275 hitter.
I think he’s roughly a .310-.315 BABIP hitter (per xBABIP). On last year’s stats, that’s a .267-.271 hitter. If he improves his strikeout rate to a level consistent with other hitters of his contact skill, then we’re talking .280 to .285. So, yeah, I’m optimistic.
So you think he has a special BABIP based on 320 PA? I’ll be sticking with Steamer’s 253/304/370 projection.
Do you think Trea Turner has a special BABIP based on 324 PA?
Stick with whatever you want. It’s folks like you who will enable me to draft Saladino and his ROI potential for nothing (and incur literally no risk) to find out if I’m right.
In a 20-team mixer, would you prefer him over Martin Prado?
I think in that deep a league, you should roll with Prado — the guaranteed playing time (and perenially robust batting average) are crucial. I think his contributions are a bit underrated, albeit very modest. In a vacuum, with equal playing time, I’d probably prefer Saladino. Just keep an eye on him.
Saladino should be a regular this year even with a Moncada call up. When Moncada gets the call Saladino will shift to 3b and Frazier will dh or vice-versa. Saladino will play since they don’t have better options on the team.