ADP Values in Center Field (Part 2)
Though our tools may not always be at their sharpest, we can still use them in concert to find truth in the fog. Yes, the 2010 projections are not up yet at BaseballMonster, but we have a sweet set here and can use their standard-deviation weighted-category-based rankings to help compare players with different skill sets. Yes, the ADP values on MockDraftCentral are flawed and skewed by their proprietary pre-ranks, but until we have more sources, they’ll have to do (Yahoo ADPs go live February 18).
The flaws of our tools were revealed when we looked at the first couple of center field tiers on Thursday, but the middle tier awaits and we will not be deterred from our goal of finding the strongest values at each position (and yes, we’ll do a post to gather all of these values into one place eventually).
Melvin Bossman Jr Upton is being taken the earliest (59.88), but after reading Dan Budreika’s breakdown of the difficulty of projecting his season (especially his power, in my opinion), I have to think that’s a little early for him. Adam Jones (89.04) comes next, but with most projections having him around 18 and 10 with an okay batting average, that seems a little high for a guy that won’t be a major plus in any category. Andrew McCutchen (91.08) may yet grow into his power, but as Paul Bourdett pointed out here, our perception of the current level of his power might have been skewed by a burst late last year. The fact remains that his minor league ISO was in the .130s, not the .180s like last year. Without plus power, he looks like a Shane Victorino (74.25) who I also believe is going too high (unless he finally steals 40+).
I hate to be so obvious about my man-crushes, but Carlos Gonzalez (124.70) has all the tools to fly past all the center fielders in his tier. We’ve talked extensively about him on the site, but I’ll just add a couple more points. CarGo is in a crowded outfield, yes, but the team hasn’t shown the willingness to make Seth Smith an every-day player, so it really looks like Smith and Dexter Fowler are the ones battling for playing time. CarGo played almost every day down the stretch down last year and I expect that to continue. Second, it makes me drool when a toolsy former top prospect makes good on his tools by improving his walk rate, strikeout rate, reach rates and contact rates across the board, while also returning his ISO to his minor league days of promise. The stars are aligned for CarGo to Go CarGo.
The speed-only tier creates a trio of players that are seemingly projected (by CHONE) to be virtually the same players next year:
Player A: .268, 4 home runs, 37 steals
Player B: .281, 3 home runs, 29 steals
Player C: .270, 4 home runs, 31 steals
What if I added that Player B actually stole 42 bases last year with a 71% success rate? Well, then you’d probably want him, wouldn’t you? Congratulations, you just bought Nyjer Morgan at bargain-basement prices (130.21 ADP). He would almsot certainly make a better value than Michael Bourn (72.45 ADP), and should sport a better batting average (and more guaranteed playing time) than Rajai Davis (171.44 ADP) in that crowded house that is the Oakland outfield.
We may have to go to a part three here to discuss the fantasy fault line (thanks to reader Johnny Tuttle for that wording, which may become a feature here shortly) between Shane Victorino and Denard Span.
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I don’t know that I’d take Span over McCutchen — though your caution about the latter is now being much considered — but, ADP-wise, I like him better than high-mid round, what with a CHONE projected 20 bags and .291.
Am I wrong in this line of thinking?
I am all about CarGo this year. Big improvement last year, potential to get even better this year, a coach who loves him and arguably the best hitters park in baseball. Is .290/100r/80rbi/25hr/35steals out of the question? I basically see him as this year’s 2009 Matt Kemp…
His peripherals compare quite similarly to Kemp. Just looking over them reminded me of that specific comp. Not a bad comp to have eh?
Question on my mind remains…if you think there is extreme value in guys like Borbon, Bruce, CarGo, McCutchen…at what point to you “downgrade” early OF to save room? I’d love to start my team with Kemp and Justin Upton, but that precludes some later targets. Where’s the cost/benefit of swapping Kemp for Fielder or Longoria in the first round?
Since the Rockies played Dexter Fowler exclusively in center field and Seth Smith only in the outfield corners in 2009, I find it hard to believe the two will compete for playing time in 2010.
It’s Car-Go, Max; he could play LF and bench Smith, or he could play CF and let Fowler/Smith duke it out. I don’t know how likely Colorado is to make decisions based on UZR, esp. so since they’re demonstrably committed to Fowler, but the premise is sound.
(And even if they did rely on UZR and not something proprietary, they’d be very likely to do something about Hawpe and plunk Car-Go there.)
In a Strat-O-Matic new player draft, would you rank Fowler, Rasmus, and McCutcheon in that order among early CF picks? I have Beltran, but need one for the future, and I may have a shot at one of these three.