36% of Your Draft Will Suck: More Thoughts on ADP
Three weeks ago, I compared 2015 average draft position (ADP) numbers to end-of-season (EOS) rankings. I intended to ascertain which fielding positions are more reliable in terms of fantasy utility relative to their draft position. In other words: I wanted to calculate the probability a player drafted within a particular tier at a particular position would bust.
Granted, the probability that a specific player will bust depends a lot on the player himself: age, recent performance, injury history, and so on. But if you wipe all names from the draft board, looking at only the overall draft slot, the player’s defensive position and his end-of-season rank, we can establish not only which positions are riskiest but also when in the draft they appear to be riskiest.
Like last time, the idea here is to (1) help maximize return on investment (ROI), and (2) minimize risk. (The two go hand in hand, to an extent.) However, I will approach this differently than last time. Instead of deconstructing each position into tiers, I will deconstruct the entire draft into tiers — top 50, top 100, top 200, top 300 — and, within each tier, evaluate the relative to success of each time of player. If you read the first one, this will be similar in terms of results but different in terms of approach.
Also, I will use four years of data (2012-15) in an attempt to improve the reliability of the probabilities to follow. Although I ultimately found composite ADP and EOS data elsewhere, I’d like to thank reader johnnycuff for reaching out and forwarding his data to me.
Bust Rate by Tier
In the table that follows, ADP makes up the left column and EOS rankings populate the adjoining columns. Using the first row as an example, the table should be interpreted accordingly: the top 50 players at the beginning of the season did not finish the season in the top 100 players 38% of the time.
Column “SRB” abbreviates “Same Round or Better + One Round,” and indicates how frequently players actually meet, or beat, their expected value. The calculation is generalized to a player’s draft round, plus another one as an approximation cushion — for example, a player drafted 96th (in the 9th round of a standard mixed league) would have to finish in the top 110, or top 11 rounds, to earn back his draft price.
| ↓ ADP \ EOS → | Top 50 | Top 100 | Top 200 | Top 300 | SRB+1 |
| Top 50 | 56% | 38% | 19% | 11% | 37% |
| Top 100 | 65% | 46% | 25% | 17% | 40% |
| Top 200 | 79% | 64% | 40% | 28% | 38% |
| Top 300 | 84% | 71% | 50% | 36% | 39% |
The title of the post gave it away: dating back to 2012, 36% of players drafted in the top 300 have not finished their respective seasons among the top 300. The bust rates have not been localized to the bottom rungs of the ladder: 11% of the top 50, 17% of the top 100 and 28% of the top 200 have qualified as busts outright.
It’s also a coincidence, but: 39% of players — in other words, only four players per round — generated at least enough value to justify their draft prices. And this phenomenon is consistent throughout the draft, hovering between 37% and 40% by tier, historically.
A lot of the (perceived) best players do not make good on their preseason promise. While they’re not total busts — again, only 11% of the top 50 truly bust — they don’t produce the kind of value one would hope to see from such an early draft pick more than half the time. And just from eyeballing the data, a lot of the attrition appears to be injury-related. That’s a hard lottery to win.
Thus, I personally arrive at an impasse. I’m not huge on Andrew McCutchen this year — in fact, I think he’s quite overvalued. Thing is, he’s still a very solid asset. While (I think) he won’t live up to his draft price, the odds of him coming relatively close to it are pretty good in light of an entire career of great health (not to mention incredibly consistent production), considerably raising his floor. The argument could be made, then, that McCutchen’s clean bill of health and high floor is worth paying a premium for.
Also, FYI: that bottom-left corner? That says 84% of players drafted within the top 300 will bust? That doesn’t mean a whole lot — only 50 of those 300 players can fit into the top 50 in the first place, so the natural bust rate must is already set artificially high at 83%. But that 1-percentage point gap is equal to three players — that is, three players drafted outside the top 300 have typically finished the season among the top 50. Another 11 to 12 will wiggle their way into #50 to #100 slots.
Find your late-round lotto pick.
Bust Rate by Position Within Tier
The next table is constructed a little differently. The so-called bust rate of each position is evaluated at each tier. Using the first row as an example, all catchers drafted within the top 200 players do not finish the season among the top 200 roughly 46% of the time.
Bold black percentages indicate frequencies that score at least a standard deviation better than average. Bold red percentages score at least a standard deviation worse than average.
| Pos | Top 50 | Top 100 | Top 200 | Top 300 |
| C | 67% | 56% | 46% | 45% |
| 1B | 48% | 36% | 33% | 29% |
| 2B | 64% | 43% | 38% | 33% |
| 3B | 59% | 41% | 44% | 33% |
| SS | 81% | 60% | 46% | 33% |
| OF | 52% | 44% | 38% | 38% |
| SP | 50% | 44% | 40% | 37% |
| RP | 60% | 62% | 39% | 39% |
| Average | 56% | 46% | 40% | 36% |
Starting with the big picture: most positions experience relatively the same amount of volatility during a season. Second base, third base and shortstop are all slightly better than average, in terms of earning back value. Outfielders and pitchers are all a little worse than average. It’s first basemen who are especially lucrative, and it’s catchers who suffer the most attrition.
And this makes some sense. First basemen are expected to be offensive stalwarts; catchers, not so much. And because EOS rankings depend upon total offensive production, far more first basemen will show up in the top 300 than will catchers.
Except catchers have recently hit as well as or better than middle infielders. Since 2012, catchers have posted a 91 wRC+ compared to a 90 wRC+ for second basemen and an 86 wRC+ for shortstops. It’s not a production issue, then, as much as it is a playing time issue; backstops see frequent rest, making the ones who see 600 plate appearances in a season — Buster Posey, Salvador Perez, Jonathan Lucroy (all when healthy, of course) — all the more valuable because they rack up counting stats in ways part-time catchers don’t.
Climbing up the draft board a bit, we see that higher-tier shortstops begin to be more volatile than other positions. In fact, shortstop is the most volatile position — a fascinating development given the glut of very young, relatively unquantified talent at the position. Perhaps the injury-prone Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki are to blame for shortstops’ struggles in the elite tiers of drafts, but the outlook is somewhat bleak for the likes of Tulowitzki, Carlos Correa, Corey Seager, Francisco Lindor and Xander Bogaerts. Granted, these top prospects may be cut from an entirely different cloth than shortstops’ past, but history simply isn’t on their side.
Implications
A lot of the conclusions from my first iteration of this exercise could be repeated here. Every position experiences a good deal of attrition, so any kind of safety or reliability described above should be interpreted in relative terms. First basemen are solid, and catchers, shortstops and relief pitchers are not. Knowing where each position demonstrates weakness can help you structure your draft accordingly.
If I had to give specific advice for certain positions:
Catcher: Draft Posey, or wait.
First base: They’re relatively safe at all ends of the draft, so you don’t necessarily have to plan around them.
Shortstop: I doubt I’ll convince you to lay off of Correa, Lindor or Seager, but you may capture a better ROI in the very late rounds of the draft (think Brad Miller, Marcus Semien, Trea Turner, Oswaldo Arcia).
Closer/reliever: The turnover rate among RPs drafted in the top 100 is really ugly compared to the draft’s overall turnover rate. Given the inherent volatility of the position — it’s built entirely on small sample sizes — you don’t need to load of up elite, or even decent, closers. Anchor your saves column with Aroldis Chapman or Craig Kimbrel, sure. But you don’t need Trevor Rosenthal and Hector Rondon, too.
Reader Participation Segment / A Thought Experiment
Since 2012, the top 10 players have busted at the following rates:
- 63% did not finish in the top 20 (range: 60% to 70%)
- 38% did not finish in the top 100 (range: 20% to 50%)
- 12% did not finish in the top 300 (range: 0% to 20%)
In other words, about six (of the top 10) will be slightly disappointing, four will be
kind of bad, and one will be really bad. Whether it’s by injury or poor performance, who can say.
Now, here’s the current NFBC ADP top 10:
- Mike Trout
- Paul Goldschmidt
- Bryce Harper
- Clayton Kershaw
- Josh Donaldson
- Carlos Correa
- Nolan Arenado
- Manny Machado
- Giancarlo Stanton
- Kris Bryant
And this is where you come in. Among them, pick the following:
- Six that will finish outside the top 20
- Among those six: four that will finish outside the top 100
- Among those four: one that will finish outside the top 300
Curious to see where everyone lies.
(20+) Trout Kershaw Donaldson Correa Arenado Bryant
(100+) Donaldson Correa Arenado Bryant
(300+) Correa
Don’t see Donaldson finishing outside the 100 in that Toronto lineup.
Outside top 20
Kershaw, Donaldson, Correa, Arenado, Stanton, Bryant
Outside top 100
Donaldson, Arenado, Stanton, Bryant
Outside top 300
Bryant
This was hard! Mixture of sophomore slumps, injuries, and regression.
I think you mean Orlando Arcia, not Oswaldo Arcia.
Good final question. Trout, Goldschmidt and Kershaw seem safest of the Top 10.
20+ = Harper, Arenado, Machado, Bryant, Correa, Stanton
100+ = Arenado, Machado, Bryant, Correa
300+ = Arenado
Yes, you’re right re: Orlando. Darn. Good eye!
About catchers… what adjustments were made in analyzing the season-end results? Catchers are adjusted upward in drafts because of the alternative of drafting the worst catchers who bring negative value.
I’ll try to remember to check when I get home (in 10 hours) but I think the rankings factor in positional premiums into final value. But if it didn’t, then you’re right, the point would be moot.
Who was the Top 10 player last year that fell out of the Top 300? Or at least the Top 10 player that had the worst season, EOS ranking wise?
Didn’t Carlos Gomez start in the top 10? Can’t remember for sure.
Carlos Gomez?
Gomez is probably right. I dont recall the Top 10 ADP from ’15 though. Gomez finished 253 according to Razzball EOS Player Rater.
Pretty sure it’s Gomez like everyone said (I’d have to check when I get home), although I think he didn’t fall outside the top 300. 2015 might have been the only season in the sample to avoid that kind of disappointment.
Worst finish last year among top 10 was Gomez, at 167. By far the best overall top-10 out of 2012-15. Four finished inside the top 12. Eight of top 20 finished in top 20 (Altuve finished 21st, or else it’d be nine). Pretty good showing for 2015.
20+ = Donaldson, Bryant, Machado, Correa, Arenado, Kershaw
100+ = Bryant, Machado, Correa, Arenado
300+ = Arenado
For what it’s worth, Trout and Goldschmidt are the two I find the least likely to fall out of the top 20.
i completely agree with this assessment, with one caveat: Stanton falls out of the top 20, not kershaw.
Can’t figure out the arenado disdain for the life of me.
More likely the guy is in the mvp race on a bad team than it is that he’s a bust.
injury!
The four (to bet on) that will stay in the top ten:
Goldschmidt, Donaldson, Bryant and Arenado.
The one (that will suc) finish in the top 300:
Kershaw.
You’re excused, you can go to Vegas now.
Outside of top 20: Harper, Kershaw, Correa, Machado, Stanton, Bryant
Outside of top 50: Harper, Correa, Machado, Bryant
Outside of top 300: Bryant
20+: Bryce Harper, Kris Bryant, Nolan Arenado, Carlos Correa, Manny Machado, Giancarlo Stanton
100+: Bryce Harper, Kris Bryant, Carlos Correa, Manny Machado
300+: Manny Machado
Bryant’s contact issues worry me. I’d like to see Correa and Harper do it more than once before I believe. Outside the top 300 is usually a season ending injury and Stanton and Machado have the longest injury histories so I flipped a coin for the last one.
(20+) Bryant, Correa, Donaldson, Stanton, Machado, Goldschmidt
(100+) Bryant, Stanton, Machado, Goldschmidt
(300+) Machado
With the exception of Bryant, totally based on injury history.
300+ is really and injury guess, on that note
20+ Kershaw, Harper, Donaldson, Correa, Machado, Bryant
100+ Harper, Donaldson, Correa, Machado
300+ Harper
What about the opposite analysis? At what positions, and from what rounds, are sleepers most likely to emerge?
Thanks for inspiring tomorrow’s post!
Excellent article. A minor point, but there performance of individual ‘tiers’ might be better appreciated if you had broken the tiers into: Top 50, 50-100, 100-200, and 200-300. For example, the bust rate of the top 50 1B is 46% and of the top 200 1B is 33%. This might lead someone to conclude that a first baseman taken later is less likely to bust. But this may not be so, since the top 200 1B includes the top 50 1B is, but defines the bust rate of that subset differently. Top 50 1B finish outside the top 50 46% of the time but they finish outside the top 200 less often. So we have no way of determining if a 1B taken in the 100-200 tier is more likely to bust that a 1B taken in the top 50…I think. Anyway, the data is still very helpful as is.
Yeah, good point. Probably would have been cleaner to make a table of frequencies and have them sum to 100%, as you’re describing here. I’ll include updated tables in tomorrow’s post, when I look at ADP from the other end of the spectrum (undrafted goldmines).
Any way to take injury out of this? Maybe somehow convert stats into a players average PA?
Unfortunately, the data I’m using is just year-end values with stat lines omitted. I could do it, but it would require a bit more leg-work that I don’t have time to do, at least not immediately. Maybe in March.
Outside top 20:
Arenado
Machado
Bryant
Stanton
Harper
Correa
Outside top 100:
Stanton
Arenado
Correa
Bryant
Outside top 300:
Stanton
Bryant and Correa’s average draft positions seem insane to me. They need to hit their upside to be worth it. Kershaw has shown year in and year out that elite SPs are just as valuable as elite hitters.
Thanks Alex this was really informative and useful.
Finish outside the top 10
Nolan Arenado
Manny Machado
Giancarlo Stanton
Kris Bryant
Clayton Kershaw
Josh Donaldson
Finish outside the top 100
Arenadao
Stanton
Bryant
Kershaw
Outside the top 300
Stanton
Injuries account for most of this.
Outside top 20
Clayton Kershaw
Josh Donaldson
Carlos Correa
Manny Machado
Giancarlo Stanton
Kris Bryant
Outside the top 100
Clayton Kershaw
Carlos Correa
Giancarlo Stanton
Kris Bryant
Outside the top 300
Clayton Kershaw
I’ll bet on the pitcher injury over anything else…
Outside top 20(6) – C.Kershaw, C.Correa, N.Arenado, M.Machado, G.Stanton, K.Bryant
Outside top 100(4) – C.Correa, N.Arenado, G.Stanton, K.Bryant
Outside top 300(1) – K.Bryant
Great article Alex.
I have Trout, Correa and Machado in keeper…so I’m rooting for a lot of other busts in the top 10!
Looking forward to the reverse article :).
Outside the top 300:
Manny Machado
Outside the top 100:
Kris Bryant
Nolan Arenado
Carlos Correa
Outside the top 20:
Giancarlo Stanton
Paul Goldschmidt
Some comments:
The wRC you stated for Catchers over SS mostly doesn’t matter for most fantasy purposes. wRC is context neutral, standard roto and points leagues use a ton of context. It’s also dependent on league. In a 2 catcher league you’re digging deep into the position in a 12 team league where SS might have 15 guys on rosters because they share MI with 2B.
You pointed out injuries as a major reason for this, and that makes the data hard to consume. At the top injuries are definitely part of it. The data is much more useful if you take rates into account for injury concerns. For the top guys, them being out for 2 weeks almost instantly takes them out of the top round for instance simply due to lost at bats.
For the bottom I’m not sure it’s that dire. I’m sure a lot of the reason for turnover down in the depths is game context related, especially for middle infielders. 5RBIs and 3 runs is not a lot of difference in value but is well within most players range of outcomes. A SS getting 10 HR instead of 8 is a really big deal on a % of value kind of way so you see large turnover down there. At the top hitting 38 HR instead of 40 doesn’t hurt much because those guys almost always bring a lot of runs and RBIs.
Top 20: Kershaw, Donaldson, Correa, Machado, Arenado, Bryant
Top 100: Correa, Machado, Arenado, Bryant
Top 300: Machado
20: Donaldson, Correa, Arenado, Machado, Stanton, Bryant
100: Correa, Machado, Stanton, Bryant
300: Correa
20+ = Donaldson, Bryant, Machado, Correa, Arenado, Stanton
100+ = Bryant, Machado, Correa, Arenado
300+ = Arenado
Correa, arenado, Bryant, Kershaw, Stanton, Donaldson
correa, arenado, Kershaw, Stanton
kershaw
020+: Kershaw, Machado, Correa, Stanton, Arenado, Bryant
100+: Correa, Stanton, Arenado, Bryant
300+: Stanton
I cannot pick a 300+ plus guy, so I am picking Stanton based on his knack for random injuries.
20 – Trout, Correa, Machado, Arenado, Bryant, Stanton
100 – Correa, Machado, Arenado, Bryant
300 – Arenado
Not quite sure how to deal with Kershaw because he is the only pitcher, given that he is the only one hes probably over valued. I picked the 6 more based on being over valued, while Trout probably won’t fall that low I think he could end up more like 10, similar to Kershaw and Donaldson :
Correa, Bryant, Trout, Machado, Donaldson, Kershaw
Bryant Correa Machado
Bryant
Curious how pitchers seem safter despite their known injury risks. Perhaps starters are easier to predict assuming they manage to stay healthy
20+ Machado, Bryant, Correa, Harper, Stanton, Arenado
100+ Machado, Bryant, Stanton, Correa
300+ Machado
Fun exercise, great article, thanks for the work.
Bryant is the only one I think will finish outside the top 100 from the list. The high K% and high BABIP scream regression. I wouldn’t be shocked to see a similar line from bryant that we saw from Joc Pederson last year
This is really just:
(1) which one of these guys will regress? and
(2) who’s going to get injured?
For regressions, I think Bryant, Arrenado and Correa are likely candidates. Harper is too, but he could regress and still be in the top ten if healthy; we was in a special category once he had a full, healthy season. Injuries are anyone’s guess–I’m not convinced of injury predictability except in guys who have the same problem every year and pitchers who seem to be hurt.
In closing, I note that the top ten ADP never includes as many pitchers as make the EOS top ten.
Surprised to see Kershaw outside the top 20 in commenter’s predictions. Even as a giants fan he seems like as much of a lock top 10 as you can get, excuse trout. Yeah pitchers are injury prone, but it would be hard to that argue at least Harper, Machado, and Stanton are less so.
One observation about bust rate. Although as you pointed out the bust rate for SS, 2B, and 3B are slightly lower than average looking at the overall rate for top 300, they are all higher than average for top 50.
Conversely with SP and OF, the bust rate is higher than average for top 300 as you point out, but lower than average for top 50.
I wonder if this is related to how position scarcity is valued?
Very very interesting. You’ve posted the bust rates for the top ten ADP since 2012, but we only have 2016 ADP to look at. Are you able to post top ten ADP for the years mentioned in the article? Would provide a lot of context and further analysis.
2012
Miguel Cabrera
Matt Kemp
Albert Pujols
Jose Bautista
Troy Tulowitzki
Jacoby Ellsbury
Robinson Cano
Adrian Gonzalez
Ryan Braun
Joey Votto
2013
Miguel Cabrera
Mike Trout
Ryan Braun
Robinson Cano
Matt Kemp
Albert Pujols
Andrew McCutchen
Joey Votto
Carlos Gonzalez
Justin Verlander
2014
Mike Trout
Miguel Cabrera
Paul Goldschmidt
Andrew McCutchen
Clayton Kershaw
Carlos Gonzalez
Chris Davis
Robinson Cano
Hanley Ramirez
Adam Jones
2015
Mike Trout
Andrew McCutchen
Clayton Kershaw
Giancarlo Stanton
Miguel Cabrera
Paul Goldschmidt
Jose Abreu
Carlos Gomez
Jose Bautista
Felix Hernandez