Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda: Rodon, Betts, Cron and Closers
Last week, I reviewed my NFBC Draft Champions League results. I think some of my speculative saves (Joel Peralta early on; Adam Ottavino later on) could come to fruition, and I am pretty bullish on the depth of my rotation. I have a sundry of sleepers that could provide supplemental value: Daniel Norris, Randall Delgado, Jaime Garcia, Rafael Montero, Trevor Cahill and Robbie Erlin.
With that said, some of the feedback was helpful. I agree that based on my closing situation (among other things), I can’t possibly compete for the grand prize unless I get very lucky. I also do not have enough sure-thing starters to punt saves altogether to at least ensure a league win.
I don’t agree with a lack of depth on offense. I have CI/OF flexibility and a sundry of power (Justin Smoak, Travis Snider) and speed (Billy Burns, Jose Ramirez, Francisco Lindor) on the bench. My second catching slot is in question, but Caleb Joseph could provide some surprise value until Matt Wieters returns. I like Andrew Susac, but I need to hope for a Buster Posey or Brandon Belt injury.
Here is my team as is:
C: Mike Zunino; Caleb Joseph; Peter O’brien; Andrew Susac; Kevin Plawecki
1B: Matt Adams; Justin Smoak
2B: Jason Kipnis
3B: Ryan Zimmerman
SS: Wilmer Flores; Jose Ramirez; Francisco Lindor
CI: Josh Harrison; Jake Lamb, Justin Smoak; Jesus Aguilar; Garin Cechhini
MI: Rougned Odor; Rob Refsnyder; Matt Reynolds
OF: Mike Trout; George Springer; Starling Marte; J.D. Martinez; Khris Davis; Travis Snider; Billy Burns; Domingo Santana
U: Kris Bryant
P: Zack Greinke; Carlos Carrasco; Jenrry Mejia; Homer Bailey; Drew Hutchinson; Henderson Alvarez; Kyle Lohse; Shane Greene; Adam Ottavino; Daniel Norris; Randall Delgado; Pedro Strop; Jaime Garcia; Rafael Montero; Shawn Kelley; Chi Chi Gonzalez, Chris Hatcher; Trevor Cahill; Aaron Barrett; Steve Delabar; Robbie Erlin
Despite the passion and zeal from some of the responses, I don’t have many regrets, but those that I do have were exacerbated:
- Jason Kipnis: Back issues has limited his playing time this spring. His 15HR/25SB potential provided me with great counting-stats balance through four rounds with Trout, Springer and Marte. In hindsight, I should have over-drafted a closer at this time. Aroldis Chapman actually went uber-early in round three. Craig Kimbrel and Greg Holland went in round four. If one of these three dropped, I would have pounced, but they didn’t, and I still could have drafted Mark Melancon. I would then be up a closer and still have speed displacement on my bench including MI options with projected playing time (Jose Ramirez; Francisco Lindor; perhaps even Matt Reynolds if Daniel Murphy misses time early-on).
- Josh Harrison: The hitter analytics matrix mentioned in my last post backed up Harrison’s xBABIPw/homers, and I appreciate his position flexibility and possibly need him until Kris Bryant gets called up if Justin Smoak doesn’t start strong, but I would have liked Travis d’Arnaud in this draft position. I thought there was a small chance he would come back to me at the end of 12, but the entire catcher tier flew off in the 11th and 12th starting off with d’Arnaud and followed by Russell Martin, Yasmani Grandal, Wilin Rosario, Wilson Ramos and Derek Norris. Homers were diminishing so I pounced on the 25HR potential of Mike Zunino at 13.1, but it would have been nice to pair him with d’Arnaud, whom I think can be a top 5 catcher.
- Diamondbacks: My biggest regrets were Peter O’brien and Jake Lamb back-to-back on my round 2o/21 turn. In hindsight, I should have went with another closer (or soon-to-be closer), Joakim Soria and I was too comfortable with Matt Adams and Ryan Zimmerman at 1B. I could have went with C.J. Cron over Jake Lamb. Ugh. The D-backs have a 3B-OF roster crunch and C.J. Cron has looked great this spring, currently batting .412 and could land 500 Plate Appearances with Josh Hamilton out. This might surprise you, but Cron could have a top-20 contact rate and top-15 HR/FB ratio for first baseman next year – basically Adam LaRoche with more BA potential and in his prime power years.
Lastly, I regret not drafting Mookie Betts (7.12) and Carlos Rodon (24.12). Both are killing it this spring. Betts’ contact rates and on-base skills with speed made him a sure thing, but I preferred Carlos Carrasco and J.D. Martinez. I still might slightly since I have enough speed. If I went Melancon over Kipnis, I would have went Betts over J.D.
Carlos Rodon‘s Fastball and Slider is legitimate. He has a 19:3 SO/BB ratio in 12.1 IP so far this spring and he’s already the 4th best starter on the White Sox who will be missing Chris Sale once through the rotation. He doesn’t have Chris Sale’s initial Changeup, but the velocity-slider combination will ensure strikeouts.
I would have been uber happy with this woulda-coulda-shoulda team:
C: Travis d’Arnaud; Mike Zunino; Caleb Joseph; Andrew Susac
1B: Matt Adams
2B: Rougned Odor
3B: Ryan Zimmerman
SS: Wilmer Flores
CI: Kris Bryant
MI: Jose Ramirez; Francisco Lindor; Matt Reynolds
OF: Mike Trout; George Springer; Starling Marte; Mookie Betts; Khris Davis
U: Travis Snider; Justin Smoak; Billy Burns
P: Zack Greinke; Mark Melancon, Carlos Carrasco; Jenrry Mejia; Homer Bailey; Drew Hutchinson; Henderson Alvarez; Kyle Lohse; Joakim Soria; Carlos Rodon; Shane Greene; Adam Ottavino; Daniel Norris; Randall Delgado; Pedro Strop; Jaime Garcia; Rafael Montero; Shawn Kelley; Chi Chi Gonzalez, Chris Hatcher; Trevor Cahill; Aaron Barrett; Steve Delabar; Robbie Erlin.
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Outside your pitching which you of course mentioned, i like your team, especially the outfield. I think Marte will have a huge year and even get some MVP votes thrown his way.
The thing i wanted to ask you is what is your thoughts on the type of year Odor will have? Personally im struggling with ranking him and my other options of Utley and gyorko
I like odor – not lineup spot – but should go 55-15-60-15-265. I can see 18/20 if he somehow someway winds up earlier in the order.
A question on NFBC in general (since I think it’s silly to measure owners in different leagues against each other):
Do you get to pick your league mates or are they assigned?
for slow drafts, leagues fill on a first-come first-serve basis. basically, once 15 people sign up, a league starts.
yuppers. i think i knew one person in the league and i used my other email so it wasn’t obviously me…just in case.
They give dates and might have several leagues on that date and at that specific time you sign up for. I think it is suppose to be a random drawing for who is in which league as is the draft pick selection. However, when WCOFF was still around…..my friend was all but sure it was NOT a random process with WCOFF. He won his league the previous year in their big tourney. All of a sudden, the next year he found out that 7 to 8 out of the 12 at his table also won last year, or won the grand prize etc. in previous years. Suffice to say, he believed the leagues were not randomly put together with them. I can’t answer for the NFBC though.
Enjoyed the commentary but shocked at the use of English. “should have went” and “sundry of sleepers”? Do you guys have editors?
Probably but they are busy invading Poland
They hire all the editors with the money you spend to read the articles
You jackass
We have gotten to the point where we “need to hope for a Buster Posey or Brandon Belt injury?” Wow.
Dan,
Loved your former site and wish it was still around……
I’m in a 11 team, AL only, 5×5 auction league with 9 allowable keepers. We’re about to go into auction, but here’s who I kept
Ortiz $19 (covered off HRs)
Seager $12 (covered off HRs)
Salvador Perez $13
Alcides Escobar $19 ( big price but covered off steals)
Britton $1 (huge keeper value – covered off saves)
Cobb $20 (covered off era and whip)
Iwakuma $20 (covered off era and whip)
Derek holland $8 (dollar cost average on quality pitching)
House $8 (probably a mistake, but liked him as a sleeper)
What do you think of keeper list?
Any recommendations going into the auction?
Ps:
There was a run on top pitchers from keeper perspective…… Probably 25 of top 30 guys kept. Rest injury concerns….think Tanaka. Pricing for pitching…… Hernandez kept at $36. Price at $34. Huge premium for “aces”. I opted for “poor man aces”.- Cobb, iwakuma. So>>>> lots of keeper value priced into league…. Say $40ish per team.
yeah, not sure i would have kept house and some questions for cobb and iwakuma for me despite okay relative price. Tough not knowing league/true premium associated with pitching, because i much prefer going with keeping hitting unless its elite pitching. Also, i dont love Alcides at that price w/ the assumption there are a SUNDRY of other MI options that are clustered into the same tier as him. Perez at $13 – how much/where is zunino, d’arnaud, ramos (as examples) valued?