Which Starters Have the Most Above-Average Pitches
Yeah but does he have a change-up? That’s a great question for Odrisamer Despaigne, for example. Dude threw an 87 mph slider and a slow 67 mph curve after his excellent 92 mph sinker, which sounds good until you realize his command should be exposed in the future (too many arm slots, too many minor league walks) and when you see that the curve and slider got two whiffs combined (42 thrown!) and the change was inconsistent and ranged from 75-88 mph (!) even if it got two whiffs (12 thrown). Strange to see a rookie throw more breakers than fastballs (24), too.
So which pitchers have the full monty? Which pitchers have the most above-average pitches? Now, thanks to Jeff Zimmerman, we can quantify that. Using the pitch type benchmarks I have for swinging strikes here, and ground balls here, we can decide if a pitch is above-average in those two ways. Using Excel, we can then sort for the most number of pitches that meet our benchmarks.
Boom. Felix Hernandez has the most number of great pitches. Feels sorta good to write that.
| Pitcher | Count | All Plusses | Pitches Plus | CU | SI | FT | FF | CH | SL | FC |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Felix Hernandez | 4706 | 10 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
| Jaime Garcia | 1361 | 9 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | |
| Matt Harvey | 2692 | 9 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Johnny Cueto | 2533 | 9 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | |
| David Hale | 907 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | ||
| Cliff Lee | 4320 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | ||
| Wade Miley | 4623 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | ||
| John Lackey | 4306 | 8 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | |
| Homer Bailey | 4703 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Sonny Gray | 2421 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | ||
| Yordano Ventura | 1427 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | ||
| Marcus Stroman | 510 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Dallas Keuchel | 3923 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Matt Shoemaker | 741 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |||
| Gus Schlosser | 142 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | ||
| Taylor Jordan | 1173 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Gerrit Cole | 2928 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | ||
| Garrett Richards | 3711 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | ||
| CC Sabathia | 4119 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | ||
| Ivan Nova | 2405 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | ||
| Yovani Gallardo | 4450 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
| Charlie Morton | 3098 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | ||
| Gavin Floyd | 1181 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |||
| Matt Harrison | 530 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |||
| Kris Johnson | 273 | 6 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||||
| Carlos Carrasco | 1486 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | |||
| Clayton Kershaw | 4136 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |||
| Edwin Jackson | 4257 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | ||
| Dan Straily | 3068 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | |||
| Francisco Liriano | 3712 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
That first column counts how many benchmarks were met. Felix Hernandez has a nice slider and/or cutter by whiffs, but they don’t meet the ground-ball benchmarks (if they are even two pitches), so that leaves him with four good pitches (a pitch gets a ‘two’ if it’s above average in whiffs and grounders). Only Matt Harvey matches that feat in all of baseball over the last two years, so, yeah, those guys are good.
Let’s look at some of the surprises on this list. Jaime Garcia has always been a favorite of mine from a stuff angle. His change-up, slider and curve are all good pitches by swinging strike rate, which is maybe surprising to those that think of him as a ground-ball pitcher. When he was going a little better in his healthier years, his two-seamer got enough whiffs to make him the vaunted four-pitch pitcher. But of course his health is too wonky to ever pin too much hope on him.
David Hale keeps showing up in here as having a good change, sinker, and breaker. That, and his dual pitcher eligibility, is enough for him to hang on to a couple of my deeper rosters despite his inconsistent command and current rough patch. File the name away for spot starting and deep league use at best, though. Wait for yet another Bravo pitcher to go down before doing anything.
Wade Miley will get some love from Jeff Zimmerman in another piece, so let’s skip ahead to the last surprising three-pitch pitcher: Matt Shoemaker. Right now, his strikeout-minus-walk rate far outstrips anything he’s done in the minor leagues, but he’s got two things going for him: a major league job, and three major league quality pitches. His sinker is not great, but his four-seam, slider, and change are all good pitches (and the whiff rates are plus-plus on the slider and change in his short sample). At 92 mph with a change and slider that go around 83-84, the stuff doesn’t look very special, but his off-speed pitches both break in different directions and his command (which has been improving) looks good. I won’t pick him up in a shallow league just yet, but I will go pick him up wherever he’s available in my deep leagues after writing this sentence.
Lower, off the leaderboard shown here, there are is one more three-pitch guys, Masahiro Tanaka, but you know he’s good.
Instead, let’s take note of the strange line of Yovani Gallardo. Only his curve ball rates above-average by both grounders and whiffs. The sinker gets 55% grounders, so that’s good, but no whiffs (3.7%). Same for the four-seamer (45% and 3.4% respectively). The change gets ground balls (58%) but no whiffs (7.4%, 15% is average). Same on the slider (48% but only 11% whiffs). The cutter is probably his slider, but has the same numbers as his slider too. That’s how a pitcher reworks his arsenal to work after losing stuff — Gallardo has the best ground-ball rate of his career. With one pitch that’s all-around good. The arsenal seems to suggest that he can keep up the ground-ball work, for what it’s worth.
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Wonder where Darvish ranks with all the pitches he’s capable of throwing.
He didn’t show here because none of his pitches get ground balls. I’ll do one just on whiffs.
What about additional weighting to swSTR. 1SD above swSTR is a bonus point, GB% leave as is. Guessing under that criteria you would have a substantial amount of the top tier pitchers added to the list who don’t have 3 or less pitches as well as some of the guys who have elite stuff but don’t get a ton of groundballs (Darvish).
What about Odrisamer Despaigne. I don’t care what you say yeah he didn’t get K’s he looked terrific for a first start. I am sure he has 2 plus pitches also and should be added to the list.
Might go back and try reading the very top of the article.
How come a lot of these pitchers are on the waiver wire? What else is missing to make “plus pitches” a good evaluating/predicting tool?
Sequencing
I’m hoping this is out in front analysis. It netted me Keuchel, Chavez, Whitley, Richards, Arrieta and more this season, for example. Also, I need to weight each pitch — it’s obviously more important if one of your fastballs is good.
In most cases, command. Sometimes there are issues with approach. Sometimes it’s a matter of which pitches are plus. (A guy with a plus breaking ball and a fringy change is likely to have sharp platoon splits.)
They continue to throw a bad pitch too much (see Wade Miley).
Really really hope Matt Harvey comes back strong..
Eno, what about setting the benchmark for plus pitches at 1SD above average? It may separate some of the who are barely clearing the hurdles. Being a tick above average isn’t typically thought of as plus, right?
It’s a thought, but you won’t get many guys with two amazing pitches, let alone three. If a pitch gets both grounders and whiffs at an above-average rate, I’m comfortable calling it plus for the purposes of this analysis.
Maybe bonus points for 1SD? A guy with 2 slightly above average pitches is usually marginal for fantasy.
Very cool analysis by the way, always nice to see Felix at the top of a list like this. Also great to see it reveal a few guys you wouldn’t expect.
So dumb question: Where can I find a pitcher’s swSTR% and GB% by pitch type? The player pages don’t show those breakdowns, unless I’m missing it somewhere.
The player’s Pitchf/x page:
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=4772&position=P
So, so good article. Went and picked me up miley in my mixed and shoemaker in my AL.
I’m surprised CC made the list. Guy was horrible when he pitched
I’m not sold on the plus pitch criteria. If you have a crazy strikeout rate on a pitch, the ground ball rate starts to become irrelevant (think Chapman, Darvish). Maybe the 1 SD above average idea for either whiff rate OR ground ball rate. If the pitch doesn’t qualify under that criteria, then use the above average at whiff rate AND ground ball rate. I think that will give more realistic results.
Definitely going to try to look at either/ors (swSTR or GBs) and how valuable an elite pitch is. I’m totally sold on using these to evaluate arsenals on a pitcher by pitcher level, but finding out how to make it work in a query is harder.
Would you recommend picking up Garcia, Miley, Morton, Straily?
or shoemaker?
deep leagues for shoemaker and miley, yes.
What’s the difference between looking at “pitch pluses” and “pitch values” (calculated by fangraphs as runs above average)? For example, Jaime Garcia has a +2 on his slider here, yet his pitch value for slider is -0.1. Wouldn’t it be better to look at pitchers that have above average pitches based on pitch values?
Pitch values are the results all balls in play on that pitch (plus whiffs and balls). So it has a lot of BABIP noise and the like. Look at RA Dickey’s fastball. Great pitch type value because batters never expect it. But it’s not a good pitch. By whiff rate, it gets 3% whiffs and 33% ground balls! So peripherals are better because they are like focusing on k/bb — they are the cleanest results. was it a grounder? was it a whiff? those we can measure easily? was it a squibber because the guy was expecting a knuckleball? less easy to measure.
For plus pitches..or no/weak contact..only including ground ball rate is ignoring the weak contact when the bat is under the pitch.. including infield flies, pop-ups and even foul-outs would fully define “plus pitches”. is it possible to include these? foul-outs is questionable, but considering how little foul ground is available in most parks past the infield statistically it is relevant.