Updated Consensus Ranks: Starting Pitchers
We’ve finally come to the end of this long dance, and it feels good. The hope all along was not to impose our belief system on anyone with these rankings, but to show what a projections-based ranking system would look like: sober and difficult to budge. After all, true talent changes much less often than results do.
As for the major disagreements, they seemed to surround a few issues.
1) The injured player. This is such a guesstimate. How long will Cory Luebke be out, for example? Even with players like Mike Morse that have a supposed time table, there are questions about his production when he returns. A projection-based system might ding him for the missed time, but it will have difficulty reducing production based on whatever injury the player has. Even a little subjectivity makes this difficult.
2) The oft-injured player. In these rankings, Josh Johnson might play the role of Josh Hamilton: the player whose rest-of-season 5×5 production would be more useful if it didn’t include likely missed time. For the most part, health looks like an age-related skill — some players get hurt more often, and past health is definitely factored into projections. A breakout player who plays three-quarters of the time gets a ding.
3) The breakout player. There are breakouts, they do exist. There are also crazy months. There are more of the latter than the former, and so our sobriety reflects a tiny bit of cynicism regarding breakouts. We aren’t straight-jacketed by our projections, either — each analyst has his own mix of subjectivity and projections, after all, and even the choice of projections is rooted in subjectivity, and every fantasy ranking list is subjective in some fashion — but when there’s little warning for a breakout, we’re more likely to be suspicious of it than perhaps anyone.
That said, pitchers might have the easiest path towards rapid improvement or decline. Pitchers have peripherals that are harbingers of both — velocity, swinging strike rate, change in pitching mix — and when a young (or new) pitcher like Yu Darvish or Brandon Beachy shows good news in those areas, we’re just as likely as anyone to move them.
So let’s take a look at the starters.
FanGraphs Consensus Rankings: Starting Pitchers |
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New | Last | Player Name | Eno Sarris | Mike Podhorzer | Jeff Zimmerman | Zach Sanders |
1 | 1 | Roy Halladay | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
2 | 3 | Clayton Kershaw | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
3 | 2 | Cliff Lee | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
4 | 4 | Justin Verlander | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
5 | 5 | Zack Greinke | 8 | 6 | 5 | 6 |
6 | 6 | Felix Hernandez | 5 | 8 | 6 | 7 |
7 | 9 | Cole Hamels | 6 | 7 | 7 | 8 |
8 | 10 | CC Sabathia | 7 | 5 | 12 | 10 |
9 | 8 | Jered Weaver | 9 | 9 | 13 | 5 |
10 | 11 | Dan Haren | 10 | 10 | 9 | 15 |
11 | 12 | James Shields | 11 | 11 | 11 | 13 |
12 | 15 | Stephen Strasburg | 15 | 13 | 14 | 11 |
13 | 7 | Tim Lincecum | 14 | 12 | 8 | 19 |
14 | 13 | David Price | 12 | 15 | 17 | 12 |
15 | 16 | Matt Cain | 13 | 14 | 29 | 9 |
16 | 17 | Yovani Gallardo | 18 | 17 | 10 | 32 |
17 | 27 | Yu Darvish | 22 | 20 | 15 | 21 |
18 | 23 | Brandon Beachy | 19 | 23 | 16 | 24 |
19 | 14 | Jon Lester | 20 | 16 | 19 | 27 |
20 | 19 | Adam Wainwright | 16 | 18 | 32 | 20 |
21 | 21 | Ian Kennedy | 25 | 28 | 20 | 14 |
22 | 26 | Matt Garza | 21 | 22 | 22 | 22 |
23 | 30 | C.J. Wilson | 17 | 26 | 31 | 16 |
24 | 18 | Mat Latos | 26 | 19 | 18 | 34 |
25 | 20 | Madison Bumgarner | 24 | 24 | 26 | 26 |
26 | 33 | Gio Gonzalez | 23 | 38 | 25 | 18 |
27 | 24 | Josh Johnson | 28 | 27 | 33 | 17 |
28 | 36 | Brandon Morrow | 31 | 29 | 21 | 41 |
29 | 34 | Tommy Hanson | 30 | 36 | 28 | 39 |
30 | 37 | Anibal Sanchez | 29 | 35 | 30 | 43 |
31 | 32 | Shaun Marcum | 32 | 32 | 44 | 30 |
32 | 25 | Daniel Hudson | 27 | 44 | 24 | 47 |
33 | 38 | Jordan Zimmerman | 35 | 37 | 39 | 33 |
34 | 42 | Colby Lewis | 37 | 30 | 27 | 52 |
35 | 40 | Jaime Garcia | 34 | 31 | 51 | 35 |
36 | 39 | Ricky Romero | 33 | 52 | 43 | 28 |
37 | 31 | Josh Beckett | 48 | 25 | 36 | 48 |
38 | 49 | Derek Holland | 39 | 41 | 49 | 36 |
39 | 35 | Max Scherzer | 51 | 33 | 23 | 62 |
40 | 46 | Wandy Rodriguez | 38 | 53 | 41 | 38 |
41 | NA | Matt Moore | 36 | 21 | 59 | 61 |
42 | 55 | Bud Norris | 45 | 59 | 38 | 49 |
43 | 51 | Johnny Cueto | 44 | 51 | 64 | 37 |
44 | 44 | Tim Hudson | 41 | 49 | 78 | 31 |
45 | 52 | Gavin Floyd | 53 | 55 | 40 | 54 |
46 | 47 | Jeremy Hellickson | 43 | 47 | 75 | 42 |
47 | 61 | Ryan Dempster | 42 | 45 | 37 | 84 |
48 | 48 | Doug Fister | 61 | 67 | 56 | 25 |
49 | 53 | Brandon McCarthy | 40 | 70 | 60 | 40 |
50 | NA | Jeff Samardzija | 57 | 39 | 70 | 55 |
51 | NA | Chris Sale | 50 | 40 | 71 | 60 |
52 | 50 | Ervin Santana | 52 | 50 | 46 | 73 |
53 | 64 | Vance Worley | 47 | 83 | 65 | 29 |
54 | 71 | Edwin Jackson | 60 | 71 | 50 | 44 |
55 | 60 | Mike Minor | 56 | 54 | 58 | 57 |
56 | 77 | Jake Peavy | 77 | 42 | 61 | 46 |
57 | 43 | Ted Lilly | 55 | 34 | 47 | 91 |
58 | 58 | Ricky Nolasco | 54 | 61 | 35 | 78 |
59 | 66 | Chad Billingsley | 49 | 74 | 48 | 58 |
60 | 67 | Jonathon Niese | 59 | 58 | 52 | 71 |
61 | 57 | John Danks | 70 | 57 | 45 | 76 |
62 | 54 | Hiroki Kuroda | 71 | 48 | 57 | 75 |
63 | 87 | A.J. Burnett | 67 | 64 | 68 | 59 |
64 | NA | Lance Lynn | 62 | 75 | 73 | 80 |
65 | 62 | Johan Santana | 46 | 46 | 151 | 50 |
66 | 70 | Chris Capuano | 64 | 68 | 55 | 107 |
67 | 76 | Homer Bailey | 76 | 62 | 69 | 92 |
68 | 85 | Erik Bedard | 73 | 76 | 81 | 70 |
69 | 133 | Jason Hammel | 91 | 43 | 101 | 69 |
70 | 78 | Ryan Vogelsong | 65 | 106 | 86 | 53 |
71 | 63 | Tim Stauffer | 72 | 82 | 82 | 74 |
72 | 41 | Ubaldo Jimenez | 63 | 134 | 34 | 83 |
73 | 72 | Mark Buehrle | 88 | 73 | 99 | 56 |
74 | NA | Neftali Feliz | 83 | 79 | 72 | 85 |
75 | NA | Daniel Bard | 86 | 56 | 85 | 94 |
76 | 56 | Justin Masterson | 75 | 132 | 54 | 64 |
77 | NA | Drew Smyly | 69 | 85 | 96 | 77 |
78 | 65 | R.A. Dickey | 58 | 60 | 83 | 129 |
79 | 83 | Felipe Paulino | 93 | 69 | 66 | 108 |
80 | 80 | Philip Humber | 99 | 80 | 92 | 66 |
81 | 88 | Matt Harrison | 92 | 88 | 109 | 51 |
82 | NA | Trevor Bauer | 116 | 122 | 63 | 45 |
83 | 74 | Juan Nicasio | 89 | 72 | 98 | 93 |
84 | 99 | James McDonald | 101 | 96 | 77 | 87 |
85 | 96 | Edinson Volquez | 78 | 77 | 117 | 95 |
86 | 102 | Jeff Niemann | 79 | 66 | 93 | 131 |
87 | NA | Anthony Bass | 74 | 78 | 159 | 65 |
88 | 75 | Trevor Cahill | 98 | 87 | 88 | 105 |
89 | 68 | Mike Leake | 97 | 105 | 74 | 104 |
90 | 120 | Dillon Gee | 105 | 84 | 125 | 68 |
91 | 79 | Tommy Milone | 90 | 95 | 76 | 123 |
92 | 101 | Carlos Zambrano | 80 | 92 | 107 | 110 |
93 | 113 | Bartolo Colon | 112 | 91 | 122 | 67 |
94 | 111 | Kyle Lohse | 81 | 103 | 136 | 72 |
95 | 132 | Wei-Yin Chen | 84 | 115 | 105 | 88 |
96 | 94 | Ivan Nova | 103 | 113 | 115 | 63 |
97 | 155 | Tyler Skaggs | 144 | 117 | 62 | 79 |
98 | 122 | Joe Blanton | 107 | 101 | 113 | 82 |
99 | 89 | Jason Vargas | 95 | 136 | 94 | 81 |
100 | 84 | Randy Wolf | 94 | 102 | 91 | 126 |
101 | 28 | Cory Luebke | 176 | 174 | 42 | 23 |
102 | 97 | Aaron Harang | 121 | 108 | 90 | 98 |
103 | 138 | Jake Arrieta | 85 | 89 | 147 | 99 |
104 | 81 | Henderson Alvarez | 96 | 114 | 110 | 106 |
105 | 91 | Phil Hughes | 100 | 86 | 87 | 153 |
106 | 105 | Roy Oswalt | 123 | 112 | 79 | 127 |
107 | 90 | Luke Hochevar | 118 | 142 | 97 | 86 |
108 | 112 | Danny Duffy | 148 | 81 | 114 | 100 |
109 | 174 | Marco Estrada | 108 | 93 | 118 | 124 |
110 | 69 | Clay Buchholz | 111 | 135 | 108 | 90 |
111 | 115 | Jarrod Parker | 82 | 116 | 155 | 96 |
112 | 150 | Brett Anderson | 87 | 94 | 133 | 143 |
113 | 73 | Francisco Liriano | 114 | 133 | 67 | 145 |
114 | 109 | Brett Myers | 68 | 65 | 158 | 173 |
115 | 116 | Bronson Arroyo | 125 | 104 | 121 | 115 |
116 | 108 | Travis Wood | 134 | 124 | 89 | 121 |
117 | 140 | Brad Peacock | 141 | 162 | 53 | 119 |
118 | 159 | Ross Detwiler | 106 | 98 | 175 | 97 |
119 | 93 | Josh Tomlin | 120 | 130 | 104 | 128 |
120 | 29 | Chris Carpenter | 66 | 63 | 177 | 178 |
121 | 110 | Derek Lowe | 124 | 131 | 116 | 114 |
122 | 158 | Jorge de la Rosa | 136 | 121 | 111 | 117 |
123 | 98 | Jonathan Sanchez | 122 | 150 | 84 | 133 |
124 | 144 | Randall Delgado | 113 | 97 | 165 | 116 |
125 | 92 | Carl Pavano | 119 | 129 | 100 | 147 |
126 | 128 | Julio Teheran | 110 | 160 | 126 | 103 |
127 | 125 | Clayton Richard | 127 | 109 | 142 | 122 |
128 | 147 | Joe Saunders | 152 | 110 | 123 | 118 |
129 | 127 | Paul Maholm | 138 | 125 | 130 | 111 |
130 | 145 | J.A. Happ | 131 | 111 | 127 | 138 |
131 | 152 | Jake Westbrook | 115 | 137 | 156 | 101 |
132 | NA | Hector Noesi | 117 | 144 | 137 | 112 |
133 | 157 | Jerome Williams | 104 | 90 | 152 | 165 |
134 | 123 | Chris Volstad | 151 | 107 | 120 | 134 |
135 | 129 | Jordan Lyles | 128 | 119 | 132 | 136 |
136 | 59 | Jhoulys Chacin | 109 | 161 | 164 | 89 |
137 | 107 | Rick Porcello | 147 | 143 | 124 | 109 |
138 | 126 | Randy Wells | 137 | 123 | 131 | 135 |
139 | 164 | Kevin Millwood | 158 | 127 | 102 | 144 |
140 | 124 | Hisashi Iwakuma | 126 | 99 | 135 | 172 |
141 | 136 | Barry Zito | 130 | 140 | 153 | 113 |
142 | 117 | Drew Pomeranz | 149 | 118 | 146 | 132 |
143 | 137 | Charlie Morton | 139 | 126 | 145 | 137 |
144 | 134 | Alexi Ogando | 102 | 100 | 171 | 176 |
145 | 141 | Blake Beavan | 140 | 156 | 154 | 102 |
146 | 106 | Jeremy Guthrie | 162 | 152 | 112 | 130 |
147 | 119 | Jeff Karstens | 135 | 147 | 119 | 157 |
148 | 130 | Brian Matusz | 129 | 141 | 149 | 141 |
149 | 118 | Bruce Chen | 157 | 149 | 143 | 125 |
150 | 103 | Brett Cecil | 133 | 169 | 129 | 146 |
151 | 121 | Javier Vazquez | 150 | 179 | 80 | 169 |
152 | 82 | Jair Jurrjens | 132 | 163 | 134 | 154 |
153 | 149 | Kevin Correia | 143 | 138 | 141 | 161 |
154 | 156 | Alex White | 153 | 120 | 174 | 140 |
155 | 167 | Kyle Drabek | 145 | 128 | 172 | 142 |
156 | 163 | Jason Marquis | 146 | 154 | 168 | 120 |
157 | 146 | Dallas Braden | 142 | 148 | 140 | 158 |
158 | 100 | Kevin Slowey | 161 | 173 | 106 | 149 |
159 | 86 | Josh Collmenter | 160 | 170 | 103 | 156 |
160 | 169 | Livan Hernandez | 172 | 157 | 138 | 151 |
161 | 131 | Wade Davis | 167 | 153 | 128 | 171 |
162 | 151 | Jacob Turner | 155 | 164 | 163 | 139 |
163 | 95 | Chris Narveson | 180 | 176 | 95 | 170 |
164 | 165 | Dustin McGowan | 166 | 145 | 148 | 166 |
165 | 148 | Dustin Moseley | 154 | 139 | 160 | 174 |
166 | 114 | Zach Britton | 164 | 168 | 139 | 159 |
167 | 153 | Nick Blackburn | 156 | 151 | 161 | 162 |
168 | 143 | Guillermo Moscoso | 174 | 158 | 144 | 163 |
169 | 160 | Chris Tillman | 163 | 165 | 166 | 150 |
170 | 142 | Chien-Ming Wang | 169 | 155 | 167 | 155 |
171 | 135 | John Lannan | 168 | 171 | 162 | 148 |
172 | 166 | Charlie Furbush | 159 | 146 | 170 | 175 |
173 | 162 | Nathan Eovaldi | 165 | 166 | 169 | 152 |
174 | 161 | Fausto Carmona | 171 | 167 | 157 | 160 |
175 | 154 | Freddy Garcia | 170 | 172 | 150 | 164 |
176 | 168 | Tyler Chatwood | 173 | 159 | 173 | 167 |
177 | 104 | Tsuyoshi Wada | 179 | 178 | 179 | 168 |
178 | 22 | Michael Pineda | 177 | 175 | 176 | 177 |
179 | 45 | Scott Baker | 178 | 177 | 178 | 179 |
180 | 139 | Mike Pelfrey | 175 | 180 | 180 | 180 |
With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.
Lance Lynn?
working on it! thanks.
Sorry it took so long. He’s in now.