The Unwritten Rules

Throughout the season I will answer questions based on fantasy ethics and rules in this reoccurring piece. You may not always like the answers I give, but I hope that it is informative and makes you think about how you construct your leagues and play the games. Typically I do 4-5 questions per piece. You can send me more questions via email, JustinMasonFantasy@gmail.com, my twitter account, or by posting in my facebook group.

Question: Fair or foul to post about a player before draft/FAAB bidding? Ex. “Over/under $10 for New Closer X?” Maybe this is too obviously foul. As Commish, how do I handle these trolls?

-@vanquish0916

Answer: Honestly, I hate when people do stuff like this. It is one thing when it is for an obvious player that everyone is aware of, but for the most part this is done to drive up prices artificially. The hard part is enforcement of any sort of rule around it. It becomes really difficult to do. Personally, I wouldn’t do this, but I also would not attempt to prevent others from doing so with a rule. In the past, I have seen leagues that restrict access to league message boards for these abuses, but that can be a slippery slope.

Question: What do you do when an owner accidentally picks a wrong player? We had an owner in our draft who accidentally picked some catcher named “Daniel Torres” in a middle round. This threw off their strategy and set them back on some other picks. I want to help them by sending one of my players to them, but don’t want to feel like I’m colluding. How do you handle this?

-Nate

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Answer: If you catch a mistake like this mid draft, the commissioner should roll back the draft as long as it is discovered somewhat quickly. However, if is not noticed until after the draft or late into the draft and it is too far to roll back, then it is what it is. People should be paying close attention. Obviously, mistakes are going to happen, but they need to be corrected right away, not after the fact. So no, it would not be appropriate for you to send him a player to help him recover.

Question: In my championship matchup last year my opponent and I were tied after the first week – I was winning all 5 hitting categories, but it was close. His pitching was far better than mine and he had a sizable lead in all 5 of those categories. Being an 8 team H2H league, there were still a few (poor) closers available on the FA market. I dropped the players I wasn’t going to use, benched my starting pitchers and picked up all the relievers I could in the hope of stealing saves and maybe ERA or WHIP if I got really lucky. He noticed this and also went heavy on relievers, picking up a couple, moving in a couple from his bench and sitting a couple of his better starters. Then it dawned on me – he would only be getting three starts that week. I texted him saying I noticed he had countered my save strategy. I told him good luck and I hope I can get the saves I need. I searched out all the 2-start pitchers worth putting in my lineup and made a list so I could find them again quickly. Five minutes before the first game of the week – when rosters locked, I picked them up instead. That gave me 16 starts to his 3 and I ended up winning two pitching categories from him, making me the champ and recipient of $80. He’s upset and thinks I played dirty, violating some sort of unwritten rule. Admittedly it looks worse after I texted him, but I think it was a smart play and he pulled essentially the same stunt when he picked up all those relievers. Am I in the wrong here?

-Matthew

Answer: Was the text message unnecessary? Maybe. Did you break any rules, written or otherwise? Absolutely not! This sounds like sour grapes to me. You out played him and won fair and square. He misplayed his hand and paid the price for it. You play to win the game and you did. Bravo!

Question: Should there be an age limit for fantasy leagues? I have a long time keeper league where someone’s 16-year-old kid joined the league. I am worried people will attempt to take advantage of his inexperience.

-Fred

When playing for large amounts of money, I would say people should be at least 18-years-old, but other than that, I am all for kids in leagues. I started playing at the age of 15 and I took a few lump over the next few years as I learned, but how is that any different than any other new player? Most people learn by playing and struggle in their first year or two. I am all for any activity that helps kids with math, keeps them out of trouble, and teaches them about baseball.I can’t wait for the day my daughter asks to be in a fantasy league with me.





Justin is the co-host on The Sleeper and The Bust Podcast and writes for Rotographs covering the Roto Riteup as well as other periodic articles. In addition to his work at Rotographs, Justin is the lead fantasy writer/analyst and co-owner for FriendswithFantasyBenefits.com, and the owner of The Great Fantasy Baseball Invitational. He is also a certified addiction treatment counselor. Follow Justin on Twitter @JustinMasonFWFB.

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WerthlessMember since 2020
9 years ago

Agree on all advice. Since these types of columns usually generate comments when the advice is bad, I thought I’d post my approval.

dudleyMember since 2026
9 years ago

if it’s ottoneu, i’d give the owner a penalty-free cut for the mistaken identity.

edgecrusherMember since 2026
9 years ago

We had a similar issue to the pre FAAB message board posting about O/U bids a few years back. We simply said “don’t do that”, and it hasn’t been an issue since. Private speculation among league mates is fair play and gamesmanship IMO, but the public posting shouldn’t happen. If it stays a problem, you could fine the guilty party FAAB dollars equal to the amount they toss out as an O/U.

wubbie075
9 years ago
Reply to  edgecrusher

I’ve never played in a league with FAAB so maybe I’m missing something critical, but I don’t see the problem with this. It seems like appropriate gamesmanship and good strategy to get your opponents to use up their resources. I can see how it might be annoying, but annoying does not necessarily mean illegal or unethical.

Please let me know what I am missing here?

tnt9357Member since 2020
9 years ago

This column is a great idea. I don’t think anyone who plays fantasy hasn’t run into these sorts of quandaries.

I’ve played in draft leagues where, if you mention a player that hasn’t been drafted, you get that player with your next pick unless he’s picked up before it’s your turn. I imagine something similar could be done with “O/U for player X”, where as soon as the player is called, the offending team’s O/U call is the opening bid.

Re mistake player: We had a similar situation in our draft last Sunday: You slot players into positions in a lineup (8 fielding positions and DH), and a new-ish player to our league drafted a 1B with his first pick, then another 1B with his second pick. So we pointed out right away that they could only play both for a period by putting one at 1B and the other at DH. They realized their mistake, and we allowed them to pick a different player with their second pick. (There’s no MI/CI positions, so you can’t “drain the pool” as Sporer/Collette tried to do a few years ago at SS without seriously hamstringing yourself)

It was because they were new to our league that we allowed this, honestly. If it was a veteran player I don’t think we would have been as accommodating, although with a first pick it would have screwed anyone’s season.

Something that wasn’t brought up in this column that could be a topic of discussion: Drafting a player that’s injured. Our rule is that we inform the drafting team, but the pick stands. So Gary Sanchez was drafted in the 5th round a day after his biceps injury. If it was something like Tommy John, I think we’d have to allow the team to make another pick, but that hasn’t happened yet.

Hitterish13
9 years ago

I’m honestly stunned that anyone considers the first issue to be unsportsmanlike.

Suppose there’s a hot free agent that’s of no use to me because I’m set at that position. Obviously, if I can’t have him, I’d prefer a rival owner not get to use him, either. But I can’t do anything about that. What I can do is make it as costly as possible for said rival owner to get him by prompting a league-wide bidding war. So if I can force an opponent to burn through $10 FAAB instead of $1, that seems like strategy, not trolling.

lesmashMember since 2017
9 years ago

The one concern I have with young kids joining fantasy leagues is that it seems like every single transaction / trade now needs to go through the Dad before the kid will do anything. This is not in the spirit of things because the Dad may have a selfish reason to not want Team X to get Player Y, etc.

So, my feeling is that if a parent wants the league to offer a spot to his/her child, then the league should comply on the condition that the child run his/her own team without any interference from the parent.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
9 years ago

Disagree on the 3rd comment. The text message was purposefully deceptive and has led to the exact consequence I would have expected – pissed off league members. I’d be fine with the strategy shift to counter his move, but the text pushes this into douchebaggery. Is $80 worth ruining your league?