RotoGraphs June Consensus Ranks: Third Base

Third base has had some nicks and cuts but has survived fairly intact. Sure, Evan Longoria has takent some time to get going, and David Wright looks like he won’t be that counting stat monster going forward. And Nolan Arenado’s injury has been a disappointment. I’m sure some of you are even upset about the terrible start Mike Moustakas has had.

But, generally, the position looks pretty good still.

Though he was top two going in and might be top 20 in the rear view mirror, Miguel Cabrera is a beast at third base. Edwin Encarnacion only made us worry for a few weeks before turning it on. And Josh Donaldson has been a mad man, again.

And though the second half of the top ten looks a little iffy, it’s full of guys that are intriguing. Pedro Alvarez has the power, but there’s something in his plate discipline stats that looks like there might be even better on the way. Pablo Sandoval finally got aggressive again. Todd Frazier looks completely sustainable, and Ryan Zimmerman is back, allbeit in left field.

There are even some names in the low 20s that have jobs and skills and all that. It’s not a bad position.

Again, this is for 5×5 roto rest of season, and though Jeff Zimmerman mostly uses the rest of season projections, it’s not just a computer ranking. We’ve left off the color coding in favor of a simple up or down arrow — those arrows are only next to big movers. The table is designed to be sortable in case you prefer one of the rankings.

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RG Name Jeff Zach Mike Eno
1 Miguel Cabrera 1 1 1 1
2 Edwin Encarnacion 2 2 2 2
3 Adrian Beltre 3 4 3 3
4 Josh Donaldson 5 3 4 4
5 David Wright 4 5 5 5
6 Evan Longoria 6 6 7 6
7 Kyle Seager 7 12 13 9
8 Pedro Alvarez 9 15 12 7
9 Brett Lawrie 11 13 14 8
10 Pablo Sandoval 10 8 18 12
11 Ryan Zimmerman 20 9 6 13
12 Todd Frazier 13 11 16 11
13 Martin Prado 12 18 9 16
14 Manny Machado 8 16 23 10
15 Matt Carpenter 19 10 10 18
16 Anthony Rendon 17 14 15 15
17 Aramis Ramirez 23 17 8 17
18 Carlos Santana 15 20 11 20
19 Chase Headley 22 19 17 14
20 Nolan Arenado 21 7 25 21
21 Jedd Gyorko 18 21 26 24
22 Matt Dominguez 25 23 22 22
23 Mark Reynolds 16 22 29 26
24 Chris Johnson 27 31 20 19
25 DJ LeMahieu 14 29 33 25
26 Trevor Plouffe 26 30 28 23
27 Nick Castellanos 24 32 24 29
28 Juan Francisco 29 41 19 28
29 Cody Asche 37 24 30 27
30 David Freese 33 28 21 36
31 Kelly Johnson 32 41 27 33
32 Lonnie Chisenhall 30 41 34 30
33 Mike Moustakas 31 41 32 32
34 Luis Valbuena 38 27 41 31
35 Conor Gillaspie 41 26 31 41
36 Juan Uribe 41 25 39 41
37 Marcus Semien 28 41 41 39
38 Jonathan Schoop 41 41 35 35
39 Mike Aviles 35 41 41 37
40 Eduardo Escobar 39 41 41 34
41 Will Middlebrooks 36 41 38 41
42 Wilmer Flores 40 41 37 41

Ranked by one analyst: Andrew Romine, Logan Forsythe, Ryan Flaherty, Mike Olt, and Kris Bryant.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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Josh
12 years ago

Is something wrong with Zach’s? He has 1-32, then a 10 way tie for 41st.

Zach SandersMember since 2020
12 years ago
Reply to  Josh

I only ranked 32, so the rest is just a placeholder value to help with calculations.

But yes, there is generally something wrong with me.

Chicago Mark
12 years ago

How do you decide if a player is trending? I’m surprised Zimmerman is trending down. How did you come to that conclusion?

Adam
12 years ago
Reply to  Chicago Mark

I’m guessing because he’s a walking injury waiting to happen who’s now being asked to patrol left field?

yosoyfiesta
12 years ago

Donaldson is top 3, you can move Beltre and his declining power numbers down for the guy who is on pace to shatter last season – also, no matter the numbers, Donaldson’s leg kick on its own makes him top 3

pudieron89
12 years ago
Reply to  yosoyfiesta

Beltre reminding everyone this week that he’s a slugger, best not speak too soon about the future HOFer.

Jasper FranciscoMember since 2017
12 years ago
Reply to  yosoyfiesta

Yeah I don’t get that either. Beltre probably gets the nod in BA going forward, but Donaldson has been a beast in all the counting categories, isn’t slowing down, and looks to be playing on the better offensive team despite Beltre’s park advantage.

Chicago Mark
12 years ago

Ok, I read it some more. But Zimm’s numbers are out of wack. C’mon Zimm, Lemahieu at 14!!! I know Zimm (Jeff) expects a drop-off due to his injury. That’s a very big drop off.

mymaus
12 years ago
Reply to  Chicago Mark

I agree. I don’t get how you can rank R. Zimmerman out of the top 10 for sure. I get how projection system number may be off (they don’t react well to injuries), but Eno having him at 13th? I’d like to hear some logic behind that.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Chicago Mark

It’s about the plate appearances. I don’t trust him to stay in one piece at this point.

Greg
12 years ago

Too much love for Brett Lawrie on this ranking and on the 2B ranking. I just don’t get it.

Jeff
12 years ago
Reply to  Greg

I think the belief it that the power is real, and he’s hitting behind guys who get on base. He’s not the 15-15 guy we wanted, but he could be 20-25 HR, 80-85 RBI. This is my hope as I have many shares in him….

Alex Humphrey
12 years ago

Where does Xander Bogaerts fit in here? If Flores and Le Mahieu are listed…

Johan Santa
12 years ago
Reply to  Alex Humphrey

I would IMAGINE he’d go in around the mid teens. Somewhere better than Gyorko and less good than Zimmerman.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Alex Humphrey

We have a ten game requirement. Bogaerts played 9 games there last year and three this year, so he didn’t show up. For me, he’d be 18 or so.

Jasper FranciscoMember since 2017
12 years ago
Reply to  Alex Humphrey

It’s probably confusing because he’s 3B eligible in ottoneu.

majnun
12 years ago

And every single fantasy site

JoeJoe
12 years ago

No Yangervis Solarte?

Luke
12 years ago

Can you please start putting Bogaerts in these rankings? I get it that he’s more likely to be used at SS, but the same could be said for Santana at catcher, and he’s in the rankings.

Eno Sarris
12 years ago
Reply to  Luke

see above

BB
12 years ago
Reply to  Luke

He should easily meet the 10-game in season requirement by the next rankings, since he seems to be the every-day 3B going forward.

Kevin
12 years ago

I’m with Jeff, the further removed from the injury and better he gets his timing down, Manny Machado looks primed to jump up this list…possibly as high as 7th. (Not a Baltimore fan and he’s only on 1 of 4 of my teams, so not a homer comment…d’oh!)

Phil McCracken
12 years ago

Oh my god a rankings list. They are soooo definitive. How is my guy not ranked higher??????? Ohhhh my god this list doesn’t reflect the truth.

Chicago Mark
12 years ago
Reply to  Phil McCracken

Come on Phil. Try to be positive. You can do it. They want our feedback. Otherwise they wouldn’t allow responses.

Kevin
12 years ago
Reply to  Phil McCracken

Ease up for your Ben Dover there Phil. I was agreeing with Jeff and giving my opinion why. No need to get all wound up.
A Ranking would be no fun if there wasn’t chatter and discssions of differing opinions.

Not Ed Wade
12 years ago
Reply to  Phil McCracken

The only reason for these is that they generate chatter.

Literally, they’re 100% useless as an actual exercise.

Not Ed Wade
12 years ago
Reply to  Not Ed Wade

and to be clear, I think the chatter is a really good thing (which is why I’m reading the comments)

mario mendoza
12 years ago

I’d like to hear more about Longo. A couple chat hosts (sorry, I forget which) have said that he looks broken. Has he just “[taken] his time to get going” as Eno says, or is there something going on with him?

Cybo
12 years ago
Reply to  mario mendoza

Me too. Seeing him that low makes me sad inside.

Great Bambino
12 years ago

Todd Frazier needs to be higher up.

There’s no way I take David Wright over him ROS.. or a few of the guys higher up on this list for that matter

Frazier appears to have made a very obvious change to his batting stance this season. last year, his hands were much higher and he would wiggle the bat. this year they’re much lower with less movement, giving him a much quieter batting stance and more plate discipline.

Emcee Peepants
12 years ago
Reply to  Great Bambino

The new stance might help with what happens when he actually connects (increased FB% and HR/FB%), but his BB% and K% are identical to last year (0.2% increase in BB%) and aside from swinging at fewer pitches in the zone, his plate discipline numbers are pretty darn close too, and have actually gotten worse in some respects (contact %, for example).

Chris
12 years ago

Has Encarnacion gotten any starts at 3rd this year? Or will he? He’s my 3rd baseman in a keeper league and I’m concerned about him keeping 3b eligibility next season.

Isotopes GM
12 years ago

Francisco or Moreland ROS (corner question)?