Ridiculously Early Mock Draft

It’s the early offseason. Very few free agents have signed, and no trades have been completed. The GMs are in Milwaukee without internet and with wintry mix. The winter meetings are still a week or two away. Perfect time for a mock draft, or at least so thought Derek Van Riper at RotoWire. So he got us all together for a 15-team 30-round NFBC-style colossus of a mock draft last week — here are the results for your own perusal.

There are a million ways to break down a draft, so if you want more on this, let me know. to keep it simple at first, let’s just highlight some picks that seemed like the steals and reaches of the draft.

Early Steal: Hanley Ramirez, 2.1 (16 overall)
Early Reach: Matt Holliday, 2.11 (26 overall)
It’s hard to pick reaches and steals in the first two rounds — most of the guys picked in those rounds are pretty good. And these two guys are pretty good. But this pair is worth pointing out because one’s value will outstrip the other and they don’t seem to belong in the same round. Say what you will about Bill James projections, but Ramirez is projected for a .298 average and 21 home runs and 28 steals. That seems reasonable, considering that if you pro-rate out his poor 2011 he still would have managed 16 home runs and 32 stolen bases. His .275 BABIP was fifty points worse than his previous worst BABIP. He can hit that projection. Matt Holliday is projected for a .307 average, 27 home runs, and seven stolen bases… in 630 plate appearances. Will the 32-year-old get to the plate that often? Will his rapidly-declining wheels produce even that many steals? A more conservative projection would have him hitting .300 with 25 home runs and fewer than five steals… in the outfield. Put it another way: once the second round was done, Mike Stanton and Carl Crawford were the next outfield picks. At shortstop, Starlin Castro and Elvis Andrus, both very flawed players from a fantasy standpoint, were both picked in the next round.

Early-Mid-Round Steal: Brett Lawrie (5.7) (67 overall)
Early-Mid-Round Reach: B.J. Upton (4.13) (58 overall)
B.J. Upton is not a bad real-life player. His defense in centerfield and his above-average walk rate add real value and make him an above-average guy. But neither of those aspects show up in the fantasy game. Yeah, he had a nice September (.333/.432/.606), but that’s just one month. His second half was pretty much exactly like his first, which was pretty much exactly like the rest of his career. Upton strikes out in a quarter of his at-bats and that won’t allow him to push his batting average past his career .251 without extreme BABIP luck. Yeah, the power and speed is nice, but unless he hits 30 home runs next year, his batting average will keep his upside right where he was picked. Speaking of upside, nine picks later went a third baseman that is projected to hit .284 with 22 home runs and 30 stolen bases, and has the upside to far outstrip that power number. Given how terrible third base was last year, that’s the guy I want here. Even if ZiPs is less excited about Lawrie. The Jays third baseman strikes out less than the average player, has great power, and above-average wheels. He’ll hit for a decent average. And plays on the infield (sensing a theme?).

Late-Mid-Round Steal: Lucas Duda 16.9 (231 overall)
Late-Mid-Round Reach: Carlos Lee 13.12 (192 overall)
Both of these guys are decent enough reasons to wait on outfielders, but one is surely better than the other. Lee is projected for a .274 average and 21 home runs by Bill James, and Duda only a .279 average and 14 home runs, but there are reasons to be suspect of both projections. For one, James projects the 35-year-old roly-poly outfielder to arrest a four-year decline in power for reasons unclear. Lee has seen his ISO drop from a career peak .255 in 2008 to .171 last year, which is barely above average. He’s been slowly hitting more fly balls, but his HR/FB is dropping steadily, and the fly balls are just having the effect of tanking his batting average. Now, Duda’s power is sort of a question, as it’s more readily seen in batting practice, but James has him out-ISO-ing Lee .209 to .181. So why only 14 home runs? Because he inexplicably projects the Mets’ starting right fielder for a mere 370 PAs in 2012. Give him a full slate and he should comfortably out-homer the Astro. And, even if you don’t love Duda, here a few other outfield sluggers that went after Lee: Josh Willingham (14.6, 201), Torii Hunter (13.13, 208), Jason Kubel (17.6, 246), Jason Bay (17.9, 249), and my Brennan Boesch (19.15, 285) or even my Josh Reddick (28.1, 406). Probably shoulda waited.

Late Round Steal: Greg Holland (29.12, 447)
Late Round Reach: Henry Rodriguez (26.5, 380)
It’s actually hard to pick a reach in the final rounds. How can you reach on the 400th player picked? Here’s the thing, though, it’s worth highlighting some of the reliever picks at the end of the draft because it’s worth actually getting those right. Henry Rodriguez has one thing — gas — and nothing else. He’s projected to walk close to six batters per nine, and that fits in with his career rate (5.55 BB/9). It’s not likely that the Nationals lose Drew Storen, and Tyler Clippard, and then turn to the guy with a 1.5 WHIP to close out games. But, hey, it’s like the final rounds, so it’s really not a big deal. Greg Holland, on the other hand, has struck out more than 11 per nine, walked around three per nine, and generally dominated for 78+ innings. He might — might — be a better pitcher than the current closer in Kansas City. That’s a good way to get in front of a bullpen change.

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With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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BD1747
14 years ago

Carlos Santana in the 2nd round? That’s clearly the reach of the draft.

LRG
14 years ago
Reply to  BD1747

What are you smoking?? Santana is the best catcher going into next year (at least he is in my book). I think it was A LITTLE high but it’s not even close to being the reach of the draft. I’d say he’s a top 35-45 player but I see nothing wrong with someone taking him in the late 2nd. I have him in my keeper league and I’m going to keep Santana over Nelly Cruz, Holliday, Crawford and Ian Kennedy. Santana is a GRADE-A STUD. Recognize fool.

joshcohen
14 years ago
Reply to  LRG

i was really looking forward to owning him next year…but not in the 25-35 range…

pogotheostrich
14 years ago

I really dislike the SXM Fantasy Sports Radio – Trevor Ray team.

ferrets_bueller
14 years ago
Reply to  pogotheostrich

That one, and the fantasybaseballbuzz ones are pretty terrible IMO.

Sean
14 years ago

Those Lawrie projections seem comical to me, and I own him in a keeper.

WerthlessMember since 2020
14 years ago
Reply to  Sean

I think the projection is reasonable (.284/.337/.495, 22 HRs) outside of 30 SBs, which seems optimistic.

LRG
14 years ago
Reply to  Werthless

Lawrie could easily go 25/25. This kid is something really really special. What he did this year, he did at the bottom 3rd of the order. Say he moves up to 3rd in the lineup in front of Bautista??? This upside of Brett Lawrie is ridiculous. This kid is an absolute specimen and could be a top 15-20 player as soon as next year. If u don’t think this kid is a rare talent, u should get your vision checked.

j-bones
14 years ago

I really need to start doing keeper leagues so I could have Mike Morse for a dollar again this year instead of a ~5th round pick

j-bones
14 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

without doing a ton of draft planning, I’d say no. I think Morse is legit, so if you drafted him as a 25-30 homer, .290 hitter I don’t think it is. It’s more just a comment that I hate not getting years and years of below-market value production from my sleeper picks haha, like taking CarGo in the 10th last year or Ubaldo in round 20 2 years ago

Pat
14 years ago

Were picks made assuming redraft format (vs keeper)? And standard 5×5 categories or some other format? Just curious – thanks.

johnnycuff
14 years ago

Either Derek’s really cocky or he forgot that NFBC includes a CI position. Unless I’m missing something he has Belt and 1B and Longoria at 3B and no other players eligible at corner infield.

johnnycuff
14 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Perhaps, but it takes 20 games at a position to gain eligibility in NFBC. Gotta just be an oversight. I can’t imagine someone would punt 3 weeks worth of games in order to keep Lance Lynn or Steve Cishek on their roster.

johnnycuff
14 years ago

Eno – why Weaver over Greinke, Price, Strasburg or even Lester?

SKob
14 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Eno, that’s a weird response! I actually wouldn’t question the pick and figured you had reason behind it. Price had shaky moments on a rough team, so wins will be sketchy; Lester and the Sox seem like a bit of a train wreck; like the Strasberg comment and wins will also be a problem; and Greinke isn’t a shadow of his AL Cy Young self and on a team that will be without Fielder.

Unless you think Weaver and his fairly consistent and improving results since his rookie season are a fluke, that is very defendable.

Eminor3rdMember since 2019
14 years ago

First round David Wright?

Eminor3rdMember since 2019
14 years ago

I’m PRAYING Tulo falls to 7th overall next year. Wow.

dudleyMember since 2026
14 years ago

do you think Bard ends up closing in Boston? he’s a pretty solid value if he does.

dudleyMember since 2026
14 years ago

added bonus of drafting duda is you can name your team “The Duda Abides.”

Tim
14 years ago
Reply to  dudley

Why not “The Duda Bides”?

ray
14 years ago

Eno,

I am surprised with the choice of Hanley in the 2nd round. Are you not worried about the regression in his power, as it has dropped n each of the last 3 years?

ray
14 years ago
Reply to  ray

I think I would have taken guys like Prince, Pedroia, Cargo, Beltre, others before Hanley. Just a thought.

Will
14 years ago

Will you guys be doing a ridiculously early keeper mock draft?

Max
14 years ago

My money’s on Panda being a steal again, especially given how thin 3B is.

Jack Thomas
14 years ago

Felipe Paulino is listed twice — 20th rd as a SP & 28th rd as RP. The only Felipe Paulino I am aware of is KC SP.
Thks,

Sean
14 years ago
Reply to  Jack Thomas

Maybe the 28th rounder was Ronny Paulino 🙂

Johnicus G
14 years ago

What’s everyones thoughts in the event Hanley gets slotted to third pending a signing by Reyes with the Marlins?

Dave Shovein
14 years ago

Decent draft overall, but a few major weaknesses from my viewpoint.

Your 4th and 5th SP are very risky in Sale and Minor. In NFBC leagues, you really need your top 5 SP to carry the load, and I think there are too many question marks and innings concerns with these two. Picking up Liriano and Bedard may help to mitigate somewhat, but I would have preferred to see another solid, dependable 200 IP starter rather than Sale or Minor.

A glance at the offense, I think that the 5th OF and UTIL spots are a little weak. Brian Roberts is an abortion at middle infield, and can’t be counted on to play more than 15 games. It also looks to me like the average is a little light on the whole.

It almost looks, to me at least, like you mailed in the 2nd half of your draft. It’s understandable, as it’s merely an early-season mock and you likely have far more important things to worry about, but as you know these NFBC drafts are won in picks 16-30. I like what you did on a whole the first 15, but after that the only picks I liked are Morales and Boesch.

Dave Shovein
14 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Yes, as an NFBC veteran myself, I’m fully aware that it’s a 15 team league.

I just don’t understand how you could bank on Brian Roberts, especially as early as the 16th round.

And Reddick is a guy I like, but with the RedSox in the market for another outfielder, I just have serious doubts that he gets full-time at-bats this year. And maybe I’m not as big of a believer in Riemold or Nasty Nyjer as you are.

As far as the SP goes, I can understand taking Sale or Minor, but I would’ve liked to see you compliment them with a more stable innings eater.

The Broxton pick I don’t understand at all, as he’s likely available 5 rounds later and you could have scored another solid OF option (Lorenzo Cain), or another SP to shore up the backend of your rotation (Scott Baker).

Don’t take the criticism as me bashing your team, as I think on the whole it’s solid. One of the better teams in the mock, I just don’t think that it has enough to compete for the big prize.

joshcohen
14 years ago

just curious as to who you thought had a decent draft.

gardner’s draft looked strong up and down to me–a nice mix of power/speed and risk/reward.

btw, i noticed a common thread to all your OFers. 260-280 AVG. 20 HR pop. some, but not abundant, wheels. intentional or more a product of how the draft proceded?

Travis
14 years ago
Reply to  joshcohen

I really like Jack Moore’s team if Ryan Howard isn’t out too long.

Less than Dave
14 years ago

The RotoWire guys had good drafts… especially Nate

Less than Dave
14 years ago

Eno, you cannot have trading in a high stakes professional fantasy baseball league. I would never play NFBC if there was trading… then drafting wouldn’t be about developing a team, it would just be picking the best players available regardless or position, then trading them… trading is for local leagues with your friends, and even then I don’t really like it. Takes away from the free agent acquisition/drafting process also

Toby Ziegler
14 years ago

How in the world did Cargo fall to 22nd overall? That’s kind of ridiculous.