Ridiculous Depth For 12 Team Leagues
Yesterday was my first normal draft of the season. It is a 12-team auction keeper league with standard deep rosters. It’s 5×5 roto, and we use OPS rather than average. We have a $310 budget. You can keep an unlimited number of players at the cost of previous draft price plus $7. Undrafted players cost $8 to keep.
After reviewing the keeper rosters, I adjusted my goal for the season from winning to acquiring as much keeper value as possible while contending. I have a few streaming tricks that should keep me within striking distance even as I optimize for next season. The best keepers are usually found in-season, but I sought to draft as many as possible.
The Team
The results aren’t pretty. In fact, I expect some of you to scoff. However, this roster should give me plenty of flexibility moving forward. That’s all I ever wanted.
| Position Players | Cost | Pitchers | Cost |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ian Desmond | $31 | Marcus Stroman | $1 |
| Mark Trumbo | $21 | Ian Kennedy | $7 |
| Jose Bautista | $36 | Lance Lynn | $7 |
| Giancarlo Stanton | $36 | Danny Salazar | $8 |
| Carlos Gomez | $22 | Drew Smyly | $5 |
| Leonys Martin | $13 | Homer Bailey | $6 |
| Brian McCann | $17 | Ken Giles | $8 |
| Ryan Zimmerman | $16 | Ervin Santana | $2 |
| Steve Pearce | $18 | Taijuan Walker | $3 |
| Chase Headley | $11 | Carlos Martinez | $1 |
| Jung-ho Kang | $2 | Matt Shoemaker | $4 |
| Jose Ramirez | $1 | Jesse Hahn | $1 |
| Chris Owings | $1 | Justin Masterson | $1 |
| J.J. Hardy | $1 | Brad Boxberger | $8 |
| Rusney Castillo | $8 |
I kept Bautista, Stanton, Gomez, Castillo, and Boxberger, hence their mostly fantastic prices. Before leaving grumpy comments, remember this is an OPS league. Based on the various publicly available projections, Mark Trumbo is one of the top players in this format. McCann, Zimmerman, and Pearce are also highly rated.
Let’s quickly chat about what’s going on here. I went into the draft searching for value. I thought I could grab a few veterans like Hanley Ramirez, Adrian Beltre, and Albert Pujols at slight discounts. They cost way more than my values which were already adjusted to reflect my preference for position players. Rather than overpay for a bunch of guys, I grabbed one five category talent (Desmond) and sat back.
This club should provide some high quality offense despite looking a little gnarly. Home runs, RBI, and OPS should be strengths while stolen bases might be a weakness. I often fall into that pit in this league since home runs are so valuable (again, the OPS).
I selected ALL of the leftover pitchers. Some are boring veteran placeholders like Kennedy, Lynn, and Santana. They’ll do a job without excelling. Others like Salazar, Walker, Martinez, and Hahn are unestablished upside plays. My fellow RotoGraphists and I have been excited about their ceilings all winter. I have reason to expect at least one to perform well. Bailey was simply too cheap for what he is, even with Great American Ballpark ruining his ceiling.
The run on relievers was pure insanity. David Robertson cost $19. Neftali Feliz and Jonathan Papelbon were $14. Since identifying relief aces is one of my specialties, I opted to abstain from the madness. I did snag an $8 Giles late in the draft. It’s a reach, but we know the ceiling is huge.
For all my positivity, this is a sloppy roster. By selecting this team, I’ve committed myself to a lot of active management in my quest for third place.
The Lessons
Let’s approach this from another angle, what should I have done differently? I finished with a $14 surplus, which isn’t a big deal in this league. The extra money goes to my FAAB, and we use daily waivers. I’ll probably get something out of that cash. Last year, I used surplus budget to grab Castillo.
Between the unspent budget and the $27 I dropped on Kennedy, Lynn, Santana, and Smyly, I could have drafted Clayton Kershaw instead (about $40). Felix Hernandez would have cost me about $35.
When people tell you pitching is deep, they aren’t exaggerating. The position projects to be incredibly flat. If you want to distinguish yourself from the pack, you have three options: luck, relievers, or aces. Finding room for Kershaw could have made this fugly roster a legitimate contender.
I learned during mock draft season that outfield is deceptively shallow. Players will emerge – they always do. For now, you should be sure to strike early and often just in case you grab a dud instead of Michael Brantley.
Conversely, it’s tempting to look at the dearth of middle infield talent and allocate a lot of budget to the position. If you miss on guys like Anthony Rendon and Troy Tulowitzki, you’ll quickly find yourself with iffy choices.
The end game still includes a lot of viable talent. I really like Owings. He’s a guy who should be right around average in all five categories. Ramirez is the poor man’s Elvis Andrus. The Indians probably won’t bat him second again this year, but that’s the only real drawback. Hardy is healthy, but not everybody is ready to buy 30 home runs from him.
Kang usually won’t go this cheaply. I anticipated spending most of my surplus on him. I really wish he landed in an offense friendly park. He could bust, but we’re looking at another high ceiling, cheap middle infielder. There are others, including some that weren’t even drafted in this league.
Parting Thoughts
Both pitcher and middle infield can be solved late in the draft – especially in an auction league. Keep your competition in mind. They’re snagging the same cheap, decent pitchers for peanuts. You need a plan to beat them. If you do plan to skimp on a position, be sure to compensate by acquiring depth. Pairing Owings with Hardy dramatically reduces your risk exposure.
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Love love love your Shortstops in an OPS league.
Hardy is being undervalued, and you never know if that 40 Homer power in Asia can translate to a decent slugger (20ish homers) over here in Kang.
With that said, i think you have some speed issues you’ll need to manage as the season goes on. I do like Leonys Martin and Gomez, but I think you’ll need more than that as your getting nothing throughout the rest of your lineup.
Also do you feel that your double-dipping with homers and OPS? I hate categories that are similar to other categories in a roto league.
Why do you wind up with the 2B you’re in? I feel like there are a ton of decent, cheap 2B options ranked from 10-18 at the position, but you don’t have any of them I thought you would (eg. Utley).
Your OF depth is superb.
I actually like Owings more than Utley, plus he cost $9. As I mentioned, my goal this year is uncover keepable assets while staying within striking distance. I also got stuck needing a guy like Ramirez to help with my SB totals. I’m counting on my sluggers to balance his one category profile.
I disagree with your comment “Mark Trumbo is one of the top players in this format.” His low BA and walk rate keep him down. He’s only had 1 season with an OPS over .800 and it was just barely at .808. He projects in the mid to upper .700s for OPS which isn’t great. I would argue he’s in the Lucas Duda, Brandon Moss range, what did they go for?
How much did Tulo and Han Ram go for? I’d take them over Desmond in this format.
Tulo was $42, HanRam was $32. I also wanted both of them, but bowed out of the bidding. The Desmond nomination was later in the draft, so it was clear I had more excess money than early. I went in with one of the lowest $/pick despite only keeping 5 guys.
Moss is also a stud in this format. I nearly dropped $20 on him, but I was so stocked at 1b/OF that I let him go. I wish I hadn’t. Duda was kept, so I didn’t draw a value for him. I assume he was also around $30. I had Moss at about 26 and Trumbo at 32.
Is there a bench? Either way, how does FAAB get spent in a daily pick up league?
Hahn … no way.
Haha, you’re the one who talked me into watching some of his recent stuff. Love his CB and the change is solid too. Not a fan of his primary fastball. Maybe if his velo stays up, he’ll get better peripherals with it. Results were fine last year, but depended on a .200 BABIP for the pitch.
I am still furious you snaked him from me for only a buck. I assumed if I nominated him that early I would surely be outbid, and burned my last bullets on an underpriced Torii Hunter
Love the hitters, really wish you had one top line pitcher to shape the rest of your staff around though. I love Salazar and have him on all my teams this year but usually as a 3-5 pitcher, not my ace.
I agree with your comments on SP depth and how flat the separation outside the top 3-5 is. That’s why I was willing to pay $71 collectively for Kershaw + Felix (and $4 for the rights to stash and keep Darvish cheap in 2016/17), whom I valued at over $40 each. I’m banking on them plus Kimbrell padding my pitching sufficiently, with mild risk plays like $8 Carassco, $15 Ryu and $1 Cingrani/Hammels filling the balance of the non-streaming innings. I do wish I hadn’t paid a position-price premium to keep Machado given that I had Donaldson too (instead option for a Desmond or HanRam), but I really believe in Machado.
Love my team outside my SS/MI though. I have a lot of 1B/OF lotto tickets for cheap, and just 1-2 need to pan out for this team to be quite competitive with ample keeper upside across the roster in key players.
C-Travis D’Arnaud ($10-K)
C-Jonathan Lucroy ($21)
1B-Anthony Rizzo ($22-K)
2B-Asdrubal Cabrera ($1)
SS-Andrelton Simmons ($1)
3B-Josh Donaldson ($15-K)
MI-Brad Miller ($1)
CI-Manny Machado ($22-K)
OF-Bryce Harper ($29-K)
OF-George Springer ($15-K)
OF-Nick Swisher ($1)
OF-Michael Saunders ($1)
OF-Logan Morrison ($1)
UT-CJ Cron ($1)
P-Clayton Kershaw ($39)
P-Felix Hernandez ($32)
P-Hyun-Jin Rye ($15-K)
P-Carlos Carrasco ($8-K)
P-Craig Kimbrel ($22)
P-Koji Uehara ($17)
P-Matt Moore ($1)
P-Jason Hammel ($1)
P-Kevin Quackenbush ($1)
BN-Yu Darvish ($4)
BN-Tony Cingrani ($1)
BN-Allen Craig ($1)
BN-Kevin Kiermaier ($1)
BN-Kris Bryant (Aux/NA Keeper)
Love that lineup. I’m just wondering why no Wilmer Flores? Almost certainly more power than Miller, surely more than Simmmons and if ZIPs is to be believed, more RBI than a lot of SS not named HanRam, Tulo or Desmond.
what is the freaking point of playing fantasy baseball if you’re giving up on winning this year. you’re not a GM. this isn’t real.
It’s a keeper league. My goal is to win as many championships as I can but sometimes it’s necessary to look beyond the current season. After 6 years of contending (3 1st, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) it’s time to pivot to a new core.
And it’s not that I’m giving up. I’m recognizing that my team is too far behind others to compete via projections. So I need to make room for high value plays in order to compensate. I can use those cheap value guys to add fire power at the deadline if I’m still in the race.
Great article as usual, thanks! I was wondering if you had ever looked into trading auction dollars for players predraft. I’m about to enter the second year of a standard 5×5 auction keeper league, and was offered Matt Harvey ($8) plus 15 auction dollars for my Rizzo ($22). I’m not sure how much value to put on the extra bidding money, I was wondering if you had any insight? Thanks again