Ottoneu Tiered Rankings Intro

I have done tiered Ottoneu rankings for FanGraphs Points leagues for a few years now, and every year I write a version of the same intro over and over again. This year, I am just going to write this up, link back to it, and then for the intro to each ranking, I can talk a bit about the position overall. For today, no rankings just yet. Just a little discussion of methodology and other such things. Let’s do a little FAQ.

Why are your rankings for FanGraphs Points leagues?

That’s the most popular format, even if it’s not (in my opinion) the best (if you aren’t playing 4×4, you should be). It’s also pretty applicable to most other formats. If you want to convert from FGPTs to SABR Points, basically all you have to do is downgrade pitching a bit vs. hitting. Hitting scoring is exactly the same in both points formats. For pitchers, you do want to downgrade high walk and/or low K pitchers. Innings are worth less and avoiding hits isn’t a differentiator because hits don’t cost pitchers points.

If you want to convert from FGPTs to 4×4, you need to assume a shallower value curve (the top players are not worth as much and the dollar values are spread more evenly. You’ll also want to boost your values for HR-suppressing pitchers and for high-OBP hitters. 5×5 is a different beast but there are a million 5×5 rankings out there that you can use.

Do I need to adjust for H2H leagues?

Yes, a bit. In H2H leagues, without an IP cap, pitchers who go deeper into games are more valuable. So boost up anyone you think will be going into the 7th often. And I downgrade catchers, as well. While season-long Ottoneu leagues allow you to start two catchers per-day (while still holding you to 162 total games at the position), H2H leagues only have one C spot. I choose not to roster two C most of the time, because when my starter gets Sunday afternoon off, there is a decent chance the backup does, too. So I just get less value from that spot, which causes me to downgrade C values overall.

Do you use projections for your rankings?

Yes and no. My rankings are a bit art and a bit science. The science bit comes from pulling values from a variety of projections and sources into a single spreadsheet to inform my thinking. This includes Steamer, ATC, ZiPS, THE BAT, and mock drafts from the Ottoneu Slack Community. The idea is to have a wide-range of values because different sources value players differently. This gives me a sense of the range a player falls in.

So what is the “art” portion of your rankings?

With those data sources in place, I do an initial ranking of players based on those inputs. I don’t simply sort by an average or something like that. I move players up or down based on the range, what I expect from the player at first-glance, etc. Then I go back, position-by-position, and look at each individual player. This is when I write the quick one-line notes on each player and when I adjust rankings based on things I learn, such as a player playing through injury, adjusting their swing, learning a new pitch, etc.

Why tiers and what do the tiers mean?

While I include ordinal rankings for each position, the tiers are what I really focus on. If you like a guy at the bottom of a tier more than a guy at the top of that tier, I probably don’t disagree strongly. It’s both difficult and, to be honest, a fool’s errand to pretend I can draw hard and fast lines between each player. So I don’t try.

This year, I am doing something new with the tiers, which is setting a single set of value buckets and using it for all positions. Every position will have players in tiers of $0, $0-$1, $1-$2, $3-$5, $6-$9, $10-$14, $15-$20, $21-$27, $28-$35, $36-$44, $45-$54, $55-$65. In the past, I have ranked the players and then tried to draw lines between tiers. This year, I ranked the players and forced myself to take a stand on a player who landed between tiers. If I think a guy is probably $44 or $45, the exercise of determining “am I happier to win him at $50 or lose him at $45” helped me make smarter decisions (I think).

By the way, those first three tiers overlap because I realized that in the past I was drawing too clear a distinction between $1 and $0. There are a bunch of $1-$2 players that I like and think should be rostered cheap. There are a bunch of $0 players I think have no value and don’t belong on a roster. There are also a bunch of players in the middle. So here is how I interpret those tiers:

  • $0 – I won’t roster this player
  • $0-$1 – I probably won’t roster this player, but if the right circumstances align, I can see picking them up to fill a positional need, to gamble on upside, etc.
  • $1-$2 – These players probably should be rostered.

Should I use these for my first-year auction or for future auctions or both?

These are designed for first-year leagues, because it isn’t possible to account for inflation for every league at the same time. If you expect 30% inflation in your 5th year league, these tiers are a good starting point, but the dollar values are going to be too low for you. Make sure to adjust for inflation.

How do you handle multi-position players?

I rank every player at one spot – the spot where I think they are most valuable. I also rank 2B and SS together as a single ranking because a) so many players qualify at both and b) with the MI spot, I find that neither position is meaningfully more valuable than the other. So any player who qualifies at C is ranked at C. Any player not ranked at C but with MI eligibility will be ranked at MI. Then I’ll rank OF, then 3B, and finally 1B/Util.

Do you boost player values if they have multi-position eligibility?

Yes, a small amount. I don’t generally think being eligible at more than one position is worth that much but it can help with roster construction and I can see spending an extra dollar on a player because of it. But that depends on the position. Yainer Diaz doesn’t get any credit for 1B eligibility – you are never going to use him there and if you do, something has gone wrong. Same with 2B/1B-eligible Brandon Drury. 1B eligibility doesn’t matter to me in that context.

The overlaps that do matter are those between MI, OF and 3B. I will boost Mookie Betts for being 2B/SS/OF. I will boost Christopher Morel for being 2B/OF and Nick Senzel for being 3B/OF. I’ll even boost Vaughn Grissom and Thairo Estrada for being 2B/SS.

Who do you include in your rankings?

I started with the entire Ottoneu player universe and then removed anyone who met ALL of the following criteria:

I have since removed a few players who retired or signed overseas, but I currently have 853 players in my sheet.

When will we get to see the rankings?

Starting tomorrow, I will be rolling them out position by position. I’ll have a full ranking list up early next week.





A long-time fantasy baseball veteran and one of the creators of ottoneu, Chad Young's writes for RotoGraphs and PitcherList, and can be heard on the ottobot podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chadyoung.

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hahigginsMember since 2018
1 year ago

can’t come soon enough!