On Wondrous Variety

I can’t really remember the first fantasy baseball league I was in. One of the first ones I was in was hand-scored. I remember, after I had been playing for a few years, I was hosting a draft at my mom’s house and, in the eighth round, someone asked if Pedro Martinez was still available. Nothing more hilarious had ever been asked.

I can’t really remember at which point fantasy baseball developed into an obsession, either. I guess it was a slow growth, slow enough that I didn’t feel it until I woke up one morning earlier this spring and realized I was in ten leagues. (Is that a lot? You tell me. To me, it feels like a lot. Too many, but not too much.) I lay in bed and literally counted them on my fingers; getting to that last pinky, I kinda felt a little gross. And then I got up and started preparing for my next draft.

I don’t think I would be in so many leagues if they were didn’t comprise wondrous variety. I’m now in three ottoneu leagues that have the same scoring system (FanGraphs points), but other than that, each league is different—so, eight different formats.

Also, I don’t think I’d be in so many leagues—or in any leagues at all for that matter—if I didn’t feel like fantasy baseball enhanced my enjoyment of the game. The different scoring settings help me to evaluate players in new ways; the deeper leagues cause me to broaden my knowledge of the player pool; dynasty leagues lead me to learn about minor leaguers and teams’ future outlooks. Being in so many leagues assures that that I can have all my favorite players in at least one league; it increases my chances of winning at least one league (it could also cause me to lose focus and do a half-assed in all of them, I suppose); it keeps me sharp and organized. So, despite the time suck, it has its benefits.

I’m sure many of you know the glory that is ottoneu, so I won’t talk about those leagues here (though the league that started from scratch this year has progressed in a very interesting way so far). But I wanted to highlight the specs of some of more unique leagues that I am in.

I invite you all to share the same in the comments. What are your favorite leagues? What have you learned from them or done differently to exploit their idiosyncrasies?

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League Name: sneeze
Platform: Yahoo
# of Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Points
Draft Type: Slow Draft (no snaking)
Keepers: Can keep any players 26 or younger for free; keep up to ten “old” players at the cost of a draft pick
Positions: 2xC, 3B, 2xSS, 2xMI, 2xCF, 2xOF, 3xUtil, 5xSP, 5xP

COMMENTS:
Cistulli had been in this league for a while and asked me to join a couple years back. The hitter slots emphasize the premium defensive positions, obviously. Rosters spots are not exactly what they seem because each slot allows for only 115 Games Played; so if you have a stud that you want to get 150+ games out of, you have to make sure to save enough GP for him in the second slot, while trying to fill in the rest of the GP cap with lesser (perhaps platoon) guys.

I can’t believe that it took me two years to figure out how pitching-reliant this league is (and my pitching is still awful) but it makes sense: many of the best hitters don’t have a natural slot here, while there’s plenty of room for the best pitchers (1350 IP cap).

Given that there are 20 teams, there are always teams “going young,” with a couple of teams accumulating very few points because they barely roster any MLB players. Everyone in the world is in the player pool via use of proxies: Nippon leaguers, high schoolers, your mom, my butt (it has its own Social, so it counts)—they’re all fair game in sneeze league.

The points are based on linear weights. The draft is ten rounds. Roster spots unfilled after keeper and the draft can be filled by adding free agents. If you keep an “old” player, he costs you your first pick; if you keep two old guys, it cost you your first two picks; and so on.

League Name: Scrappy Nation
Platform: CBS
# of Teams: 14
Scoring Type: H2H
Draft Type: Snake Draft
Keepers: None
Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3xOF, Util, 5xSP, 4xRP, 6xB, Minors
Hitter Categories: HR, H+ (H+BB+HBP), RBI+R, SB-CS, AVG, OBP, SLG, wOBA
Pitcher Categories: QS, SV+HD, ERA, FIP, HR/9, IP/GS, K/BB, TB/9

COMMENTS:
It did not take me so long to figure out the inefficiency here: the lack of a minimum IP requirement and the fact that there are five rate stats that tend to favor relievers. Add in the use of Holds and you get a league wherein dominant setup men have real value. I won the league last year (well, as the active half of a co-managed team, my first year in the league) partially by exploiting this inefficiency, and partially by talking advantage of a rare feature in H2H leagues: daily lineup changes. I played platoon bats a lot.

This year the league expanded to 14 teams and I assumed my own squad. I waited until the 13th round to take a SP, but had four elite relievers by then and eight good bats. I’ll also look to roster a reliever or two who will have chances at Saves and Holds but retain SP-eligibility with good rate stats. I should be able to win six of eight pitching stats on a regular basis.

League Name: Northern Rotisserie Baseball Association (NRBA)
Platform: Custom
# of Teams: 14
Scoring Type: Roto (four periods and overall winners paid)
Draft Type: Straight Draft with preset salaries, $480 salary cap
Keepers: Keep up to ten players under contract or via option years
Positions: 2xC, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, CI, MI, 5xOF 9xP, Util/P, 13xB
Hitter Categories: HR, R, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OBP
Pitcher Categories: W, QS, K, SV+HD, ERA, WHIP, K/IP

COMMENTS:

The predetermined salaries make for an interesting draft and can seriously alter the value of a player. Per the league constitution: “The salary of a player is determined by using the Sagarin Ratings (from the USA Today web site, Sagarin Web Site). To get a current year free agent salary, we will use the 3-year weighted average of the last 3 years of Sagarin. All Salaries will be rounded up to the nearest $1.” Veterans can be way overpriced if they had a good year even three years ago, but there are enough $1 deals that by the end of the draft you can stomach a $60 Jimmy Rollins.

The player contract structure is more complex. Consider:

Base Salary: 1-40
2 Year Contract $4 bonus
3 Year Contract $6 bonus
4 Year Contract $8 bonus
5 Year Contract $10 bonus
Base Salary: 41+
2-5 Year Contract $10 bonus

All Option Year contracts have a $4 bonus, regardless of base salary

Like IRL, contract salaries are guaranteed, and if you drop a guy who has a contract, you’re responsible for the whole thing unless someone else claims him, at which point you’re off the hook.

Given the deep benches and the uncommon salary/contract structure, there will probably be a few teams every year that default to a “rebuild” and stock up on $1 minor leaguers. This is only my second year in the league, and it’s been a slow adjustment. Also, I haven’t put quite as much time into preparing for this league as some of my others [yet] because sometimes it reminds me of when I finally started to wade through the Guided by Voices discography in 2008: I listened to three albums, really liked two of them, and figured that would be enough, leaving [what would increase to] 20 albums unlistened to. However, my enthusiasm for this league it growing after this year’s draft, about which I feel very good.

League Name: A League of Treats
Platform: CBS
# of Teams: 16
Scoring Type: H2H + Roto
Draft Type: Auction
Keepers: Keep 16-23 major leaguers and 5 minor leaguers
Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 5xOF, CI, MI/C, U, 9xP, 5xBench, 5xMinors
Hitter Categories: HR, SB-CS, nHRB (non-HomeRun Bases+BB+HBP), AVG, wOBA
Pitcher Categories: QS, SV+HD, K, FIP, WHIP

COMMENTS:
I started this [quasi-]dynasty league about five years ago before ottoneu was available to the public. If ottoneu had come out a year or two earlier, this league wouldn’t exist. But we’ve expanded twice after starting at 12 teams, so I guess it’s going well enough.

The involvement level of the owners varies a bit in this league, which, if you have ever been a league commissioner, you know you frustrating that can be. In a league this deep (and it’s not even super deep), this can lead to haves and have-nots if you’re not careful. Still, I’m proud of the intricacies.

League Name: Big C’s Baseball F*ckhouse
Platform: CBS
# of Teams: 14
Scoring Type: H2H + Points
Draft Type: Live Snake Draft
Keepers: keep up to 5 players at their original draft position for up to three times
Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, 4xOF, Util, 4xSP, 2xRP, 8xB, 2xMinors

COMMENTS:
I’ve been in this league for ten years now, and I still think it is one of my favorites. (It helps that I have been in the playoffs every year since it started and been to the championship game four times.) To me, there’s just something about a H2H points league that creates excitement.

No negative points are assigned for playing time (AB, PA, GP), so I have always focused on power in this league while trying to maintain starting pitching depth—with Wins and Quality Starts awarded points, two-start pitchers become very important. I almost never have a top (or even a stable) closer, which has bitten me hard in some years and been fine in others. I tend to run out of transactions before the season is up (55 total allowed for the season).

I’ve only been able to make the live draft once in the last three year, and now that I live in California and the draft is back in Milwaukee, it looks unlikely that I will ever be at the live draft again. I’m not friends with all of the guys in the league, but live drafts are super fun; you should do one if you have the opportunity.





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FalconPunch
11 years ago

League Name: News Team’s Finest
Platform: ESPN Custom 6×6
# of Teams: 10
Scoring Type: H2H
Draft Type: Offline Auction
Keepers: Min 9 – Max 13
Positions: C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 4OF 1 UTL 10 P 5 Bench 2 DL (25 man rosters)
Hitter Categories: HR, R, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP
Pitcher Categories: IP, QS, K, SV, ERA, WHIP

We are entering year #8 of this dynasty and never in the history of fantasy baseball has there been more shit talking between members. We all have been friends for 20+ years. It’s a $50 buy-in, but no one cares about the money. We only care about making fun of each other for awful trades, preposterous statements and horrible keepers. We do podcasts pre-draft and post. One member wrote a soundtrack this year ripping each team to the tune of Elton John classics. (One song in particular was written making fun of a member who was due with their 2nd child in March 2014, thus pushing up our draft weeks ahead of schedule to accommodate…New league policy is to avoid sex in June because it leads to March babies #coht).

We spend 6 months playing fantasy baseball and spend the other 6 months chirping about it. I love it so, so much. The 2015 draft is tomorrow. Giggity.

nealos
11 years ago

I had an idea to do a “salary=buy-in” league, but haven’t thought through the logistics yet. I think it would be a H2H league, though it’ snot so important.

We’d use real life base salaries, and $1 buy-in for each $1M base salary of a player (or $.50=$1M might be better).

Then you are capped at that team salary for the year– which affects waiver pick-ups… maybe there is a chance to “re-up” the cap during all-star break or something to make a 2nd half push.

Anyway, just an idea I recently came up with– might try it next year; I’ll report back.

bheld
11 years ago

You should think about joining (or starting) an NL or AL-only league as well. When I first joined one last year, I thought my enjoyment of the league would be reduced by 50%. Not so! It makes you find out if Vance Worley is worth drafting in the 23rd round. It turns out he isn’t.

Also, starting a new league like this may reduce your hideous urge to take Devon Travis from me on the waiver wire.

Patrick
11 years ago

10 team Yahoo! Standard 5×5 league Daily Transactions No keepers
C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3OF 1 UTL 3 SP 3RP 5 Bench

As you can see it is a very shallow league. The fact that most teams used there bench for SP. So only 80 hitters (plus 10 catchers) were taken versus 70-80 SP. Pitchers and (elite hitters) had so much more value in this league.

I will never forget it was 2010 and Phil Hughes was having a great start and I offered Hughes and Adam Dunn (38HR and 100RBI for 2010) for Joey Votto (37 HR 100RBI) and the owner counted with Votto for Hughes straight up because Dunn was useless to him.

thecodygriffin
11 years ago

League Name: Major League Fantasy Baseball (very creative, I know)
Platform: ESPN
# of Teams: 16
Scoring Type: H2H Categories
Draft Type: Live Straight Draft
Keepers: Keep up to 16 players forever with each keeper representing a round starting with the first.
Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF, UTIL, P (x3), BENCH (x19), and DL (x4)
Hitting Categories: R, HR, XBH, RBI, BB, SB, AVG
Pitching Categories: K, QS, W, L, ERA, WHIP, SVHD
Comments:
The league was established in 2008 with 16 randomly invited owners. Over the years, attrition has occurred, but 8 of the original 16 owners are still active and some have become IRL friends. The other 8 have been in the league for at least 2 years, so it is pretty stable. It is truly year round. We are all obsessed with trading players and draft picks all throughout the winter.

It is now my only league (for which I am the primary league manager) and I expect it to stay that way. The day it ends is probably the day I quit fantasy baseball.

Mike
11 years ago

Platform: ESPN
# of Teams: 12
Scoring Type: H2H Each Category
Draft Type: Online Auction $250 Budget
Keepers: Unlimited keepers. Players must have been drafted in a previous year(s) draft and remained on a roster. No dropped players or waiver wire players are eligible. Players under $21 are +$5. Players over $21 are +25%. Players kept for a second, etc. year are +$10 under $21. The rule for keepers in a second or additional year is +$10 under $30. Over $30 is $+33%.
Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OFx4, UTIL, SPx4, RPx2, Px1, BENCHx4, and DLx5. We also have a starts limit of 10 per week so in some ways you really have to pick and choose your spots if you roster a lot of starting pitchers. We also have a minimum innings threshold of 30 IP before your stats count to ensure RPs don’t get overvalued.
Hitting Categories: R, HR, RBI, Runs Created, SB, OBP
Pitching Categories: K, QS, K/BB, ERA, WHIP, SV
Comments: This is a work league that has been around for a few years and just recently expanded from 10 to 12 teams. I wouldn’t call this a deep league, and it’s moderately competitive with a $100 buy-in per team. Competition for best team and associated gif is actually quite intense, haha. One interesting prize tweak is that the loser’s bracket winner actually wins $50 from the loser’s bracket ultimate loser so that keeps everyone interested all year even when they are out of the playoffs.

This year we’ve replaced replaced Wins with Quality Starts, added K/BB ratio for pitching categories while also replace AVG with OBP and adding Runs Created to the hitting categories. It’s basically a dynasty league in that you can keep as many players as you want, but only two teams had as many as 6 total keepers because of the rule where the players need to remain rostered or otherwise fall out of keeper status. That keeps it incredibly interesting and encourages a lot of trading – which makes this league super fun, also. Interested in everyone’s thoughts on our categories and rules as it’s quite unique to others I’ve heard about.

Brian
11 years ago

A correction to your opening paragraph anecdote: It was not the 8th round when Pedro Martinez was inquired about, more like the 20th. The owner in question had just arrived towards the end of the draft and taken over for a departing owner. You are depriving the reading audience at least 12 rounds of hilarity.