Mixing Fantasy & Reality: Cotton, Marquez, & Margot
Jharel Cotton Quick Look
Cotton was originally signed by the Dodgers, he was just traded to the Athletics in the Rich Hill trade. MLB.com currently has him as the 12th ranked prospect in Oakland’s’ system with the following prospect grades:
- Fastball: 60
- Curve: 45
- Cutter: 45
- Changeup: 60
- Control: 50
- Overall: 50
Additionally, he started out the season as the 9th ranked pitcher in the Dodgers’ system with also an overall 50 grade.
For a game to watch, wanted to I picked his last one when he faced the Astros on August 19 but the A’s camera angle is horrible, so I went with the Royals game on the August 13.
Here are my thoughts the right-handed pitcher.
- Centered on the mound and throws home with a 3/4 release. He’s listed at 5’11, so he is probably shorter. Decent poise.
- Fastball: 90-94, straight, but “rose” nicely. He seems to have plus control of this pitch, but it has little to no life. Not a plus pitch.
- Cutter: 86-89, Maybe a downward break on it. Sometimes release side break. Other times straight. Extremely inconsistent. Could be good pitch, but isn’t right now. It got labeled or called a slider, but no matter the name, it is just one pitch.
- Change: 74-78, 12-6 break, curveball looking and curveball speed. He can drop it in for strikes. He owns LHH with it.
- Curve: 76-78 12-6 movement with more break than his change. I think these two pitchers are too similar.
- He nibbled around the strike zone a little too much once ahead in the count which extended out too many counts.
He is an interesting pitcher to try to piece together because his pitches don’t match a normal pattern. His fastball is OK. The cutter (slider) has potential. The change is a plus pitch. And I am not sure the curve has a place. Of the four pitches, the one which will set his place in the league in the cutter(slider). It can be a good pitch at times. I wonder if at some point he drops one of them like the curve.
I am really having problems putting a value on him. In my prospect database, the three best comps are Rob Zastryzny (2015, 2080), Alex Colome (2014, MLB), and Cody Anderson (2014, MLB). Not great pitchers. Right now, I could see myself taking a chance on him in 2017, but not counting on him.
German Marquez to start today
I am still not going to take a chance on any Rockies’ pitcher. I have vowed to not own one, until a pitcher has a decent few seasons in Colorado. Jon Gray is starting to change my mind, but I want to see him get that ERA under 4.00 at some point.
As for Marquez, he was included in the Jake McGee/Corey Dickerson trade earlier this year. To start the season, he was the #14 prospect with Tampa and 50 grade. Here is his MLB.com grades and some comps.
Name | Year | Report Publication | Fastball | Curveball | Changeup/splitter | Control/Command |
German Marquez | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 50 | 55 |
Anderson Espinoza | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 55 | 55 |
Braden Shipley | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 55 | 55 |
Hunter Harvey | 2015 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 50 | 50 |
Sean Newcomb | 2015 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 50 | 50 |
C.J. Edwards | 2014 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 50 | 55 |
Jose Berrios | 2015 | BA | 60 | 50 | 50 | 55 |
Jose Berrios | 2015 | MLB | 60 | 55 | 55 | 55 |
Duane Underwood | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 55 | 50 |
Ian Clarkin | 2016 | 2080 | 60 | 55 | 50 | 50 |
Jameson Tailon | 2014 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 55 | 55 |
Lucas Sims | 2014 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 55 | 55 |
Hunter Harvey | 2014 | MLB | 65 | 55 | 45 | 50 |
Kolby Allard | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 60 | 50 | 55 |
C.J. Edwards | 2015 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 50 | 50 |
Grant Holmes | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 50 | 50 |
Francis Martes | 2016 | MLB | 65 | 60 | 45 | 55 |
Some good names, some bad ones. With any other team, I may take a chance, but with a pitcher from Colorado. I will let someone else deal with the heartache for now.
Also, the Padres call up Margot.
While finishing this article, the news of Manuel Margot’s call up came in, so here are some quick comps. First, these are the players with similar grades to his Baseball America grades. Also, I have included MLB.com’s grades and comps because their grades, especially the batting one, was significantly different.
Name | Year | Report Publication | Batting | Power | Speed | Defense | Arm |
Manuel Margot | 2016 | BA | 50 | 45 | 60 | 60 | 55 |
Manuel Margot | 2015 | BA | 50 | 50 | 60 | 60 | 55 |
Amed Rosario | 2016 | MLB | 50 | 45 | 60 | 65 | 55 |
Dilson Herrera | 2014 | MLB | 50 | 45 | 60 | 55 | 50 |
Orlando Arcia | 2015 | BA | 50 | 40 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Amed Rosario | 2016 | BA | 50 | 40 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Amed Rosario | 2015 | BA | 55 | 50 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Raul Mondesi | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 50 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Nick Gordon | 2015 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Nick Gordon | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Daz Cameron | 2016 | BA | 45 | 50 | 55 | 60 | 55 |
David Dahl | 2016 | MLB | 55 | 50 | 60 | 55 | 60 |
Tyler Naquin | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 60 | 55 | 60 |
Dansby Swanson | 2016 | BA | 60 | 45 | 60 | 60 | 55 |
Dalton Pompey | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 60 | 55 | 50 |
J.P. Crawford | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 55 | 60 | 60 |
Manuel Margot | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 65 | 60 | 50 |
Hitters who performed similarly to Manuel Margot’s Baseball America’s scouting grades over their first three seasons
Starling Marte, Carl Crawford, Cliff Pennington, Jose Reyes, Rafael Furcal, Alex Rios, Adam Jones, Austin Jackson, Peter Bourjos, Brian Roberts
Name | Year | Report Publication | Batting | Power | Speed | Defense | Arm |
Manuel Margot | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 45 | 65 | 50 | 60 |
Franklin Barreto | 2015 | MLB | 60 | 45 | 60 | 45 | 60 |
Anthony Alford | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 45 | 70 | 45 | 60 |
Dansby Swanson | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 45 | 60 | 55 | 55 |
Franklin Barreto | 2015 | BA | 60 | 50 | 60 | 50 | 55 |
Tim Anderson | 2015 | MLB | 55 | 45 | 70 | 50 | 55 |
David Dahl | 2016 | MLB | 55 | 50 | 60 | 55 | 60 |
Tyler Naquin | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 60 | 55 | 60 |
Tim Anderson | 2016 | BA | 60 | 50 | 70 | 55 | 55 |
Tim Anderson | 2014 | MLB | 55 | 40 | 70 | 55 | 55 |
Raul A. Mondesi | 2015 | BA | 60 | 45 | 70 | 60 | 60 |
Andrew Benintendi | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 55 | 60 | 50 | 60 |
Dansby Swanson | 2016 | BA | 60 | 45 | 60 | 60 | 55 |
Dansby Swanson | 2016 | 2080 | 60 | 50 | 60 | 60 | 60 |
Nick Gordon | 2015 | BA | 55 | 50 | 55 | 50 | 60 |
Daz Cameron | 2016 | MLB | 55 | 50 | 55 | 50 | 60 |
Orlando Arcia | 2016 | MLB | 60 | 45 | 60 | 60 | 65 |
Trea Turner | 2016 | BA | 60 | 40 | 75 | 50 | 55 |
Hitters who performed similarly to Manuel Margot’s MLB.com’s scouting grades over their first three seasons
Jacoby Ellsbury, Jean Segura, Denard Span, Starling Marte, Angel Berroa, Austin Jackson, Fred Lewis, Jason Kipnis, Chone Figgins, Jose Reyes
Overall, the names are not horrible. While his power is graded below average, some of the above comps developed decent pop as they aged. I may not jump to pick him up this season unless my team is hunting for steals. For next season, I will try to own him with steals being harder and harder to get.
Notes
• Gary Sanchez is on a roll with him blasting his 17th home run last night. Looking over the catchers, I could see a scenario where he is the #1 catcher off the board next year. He is going to be another tough person to value in 2017 especially since he is on 50+ HR pace over a full season.
• On Monday, I thought Harper was dealing with some injury and now some news is coming out that his shoulder is bothering him.
Harper is likely to fall into a hot streak, but that’s only if his troublesome upper right shoulder/neck issue improves and allows him unrestricted passes at the baseball. Go back and look at an at-bat he had against the Giants’ Matt Cain on Aug. 6. Harper fouled off a 2–2 pitch and doubled over in pain. By then the injury had already plagued him for about a month. He has played through the discomfort.
The Nationals have denied the report, but something is obviously bothering Harper.
• Justin Bour got off the DL earlier this month because of an ankle injury. Looking at his exit velocity, he is not 100% yet. In 2015, his average exit velocity was 91.7 mph. It was 91.8 mph before the injury. Historically, these values support a near .200 ISO (.218 in 2015 and .258 before the injury). Since returning, his average exit velocity is down to 86 mph or a projected .122 ISO. Well, his ISO isn’t even at the .122 level since he has yet to have an extra-base hit.I would stay away from him for the rest of the season.
Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.