Lessons From My First Mock
UPDATE: You can view complete rosters here and Steamer projections for all teams here. I’m ranked 10th currently, but saves aren’t included yet (12 points projected).
On Tuesday, Howard Bender organized the first draft of the 2014 season for his Mock Draft Army. You can learn more about the army here.
We kept things short and simple; a 23 round snake draft with standard deep league positions, no bench, and 5×5 scoring. The picks ranged from Mike Trout at pick 1-1 to Fernando Rodney at pick 23-12.
It was an unusually informative mock for me. I went into the draft cold, with no draft sheets or prep for a 5×5 snake draft. The only snake league I’ve played in the last four years is a linear weights-based keeper league. It suffices to say that some hiccups were to be expected.
Overall, I think I had a terrible draft. Well, it was terrible in the sense that I drafted the wrong guys at the wrong time. Shame on me. From a big picture perspective, I actually did alright since I managed my categories successfully. Were this an actual league, I would expect this roster to give me a six or better in every category. Fortunately, I learned some things about the player pool that should serve me well this spring regardless of format. I’ll share those with you in the moment, but first I’ll present my team.
| POS | NAME | R | HR | RBI | SB | AVG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C | Buster Posey | 81 | 21 | 90 | 2 | 0.304 |
| C | Brian McCann | 71 | 24 | 80 | 2 | 0.255 |
| 1B | Brandon Belt | 59 | 15 | 65 | 7 | 0.278 |
| 2B | Chase Utley | 63 | 16 | 64 | 8 | 0.263 |
| SS | Hanley Ramirez | 70 | 20 | 74 | 15 | 0.279 |
| 3B | Ryan Zimmerman | 67 | 20 | 71 | 6 | 0.274 |
| MI | Xander Bogaerts | 66 | 14 | 65 | 8 | 0.261 |
| CI | Ryan Howard | 57 | 21 | 66 | 0 | 0.245 |
| OF | Bryce Harper | 77 | 22 | 68 | 13 | 0.271 |
| OF | Alfonso Soriano | 65 | 23 | 76 | 10 | 0.238 |
| OF | Oscar Taveras | 7 | 2 | 8 | 1 | 0.283 |
| OF | Michael Bourn | 82 | 6 | 48 | 32 | 0.260 |
| OF | Carlos Quentin | 62 | 20 | 64 | 1 | 0.246 |
| U | Nick Castellanos | 60 | 12 | 60 | 5 | 0.265 |
| TOTALS | 887 | 236 | 899 | 110 | 0.266 |
| PoS | NAME | IP | W | SV | K | ERA | WHIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | Felix Hernandez | 192 | 14 | 186 | 3.28 | 1.16 | |
| P | Chris Sale | 192 | 13 | 198 | 3.41 | 1.16 | |
| P | Kenley Jansen | 65 | 5 | 28 | 88 | 2.18 | 1.04 |
| P | Sonny Gray | 173 | 11 | 138 | 4.06 | 1.34 | |
| P | Danny Farquhar | 65 | 4 | 28 | 72 | 3.18 | 1.24 |
| P | Cody Allen | 65 | 4 | 6 | 88 | 3.19 | 1.24 |
| P | Marco Estrada | 86 | 6 | 78 | 3.68 | 1.20 | |
| P | Tommy Hunter | 65 | 4 | 28 | 52 | 3.51 | 1.21 |
| P | Yordano Ventura | 117 | 4 | 61 | 4.17 | 1.39 | |
| TOTAL | 1020 | 65 | 90 | 961 | 3.41 | 1.22 |
The reported statistics are Steamer projections. For the average, ERA, and WHIP categories, I just pretended every player had equal playing time. I could have weighted things by at bats or innings pitched, but why spend the extra 3 minutes?
As I mentioned, I think I had a terrible draft, but I managed my roto categories fairly well. My specialty in fantasy baseball is managing platoons, building multiple redundancies, and combing the waiver wire, all of which aren’t available to me this mock draft format. Even with Taveras contributing nothing, my lineup has a solid base. I figure there are about 1,250 plate appearances unaccounted for, including 600 to whoever I sub in for Taveras, another 400 to whoever becomes my primary utility bat, and 250 scattered throughout the rest of the lineup. I consider Belt and Howard to fill about 1.33 spots since I would platoon both of them. The lineup also has solid depth for a no-bench draft. Bogaerts will be 3B, SS, MI, CI, U and Castellanos will be 3B, CI, OF, U. Second base and catcher are the only positions without redundancy.
I think Steamer shafted me on my pitcher projections as I expect much better out of all five starters. Ventura was a throwaway pick in the last round just because he’s interesting. He might not have a job, so don’t go pumping him up your draft board just because a tossed a pick his way. There were better and/or safer pitchers available. Even with the sometimes ugly Steamer projections, my team has a strong K/9 ratio and is set to compete in saves, ERA, and WHIP. Wins looks like a problem category, but we all know that they’re practically unpredictable. Meanwhile, I have 430 innings in reserve if we assume it’s a 1450 IP league.
I learned a few things about the depth of certain positions. Outfield is much shallower than I expected. You get down to flawed gambles not too long after Alex Gordon and Jayson Werth leave the board. As always, there is plenty to platoon there, so it’s not a big deal if you only fill one slot with a four or five category guy. Just make sure you have enough roster spots to fill in the holes.
Catcher is remarkably deep, which isn’t a total surprise since guys like Joe Mauer and Carlos Santana have (probably) opened up playing time for decent options like Josmil Pinto and Yan Gomes. I’m also a big fan of McCann this year with the designated hitter slot available to him. I didn’t want to draft Posey where I did, but I ran out of time and he was at the top of the default board.
Starting pitching is remarkably deep. I took Hernandez and Sale because they looked like the best talents relative to their position at the time, but in retrospect, I should have used one of those picks on a shallower position. As you’ll notice in the draft results link, there were plenty of solid pitchers still available, and the middle rounds were packed with above average quality. Nothing stood out about the relievers.
Second base, shortstop, and third base remain fairly shallow, although none of them are disastrously thin. First base remains deceptive. There is late draft power to be had at CI or UTIL, but don’t sleep on the position. After the top tier of first basemen, the pool gets depressingly risky. As I mentioned, I had to turn to a Belt-Howard platoon in order to secure decent first base production.
The depth at pitcher has convinced me to reduce my budget for starters. I usually try to gain an edge in pitching by outspending my opponents – often by landing an extra top closer (this is an auction strategy that doesn’t convert well to snake drafts). I find that I’m particularly adept at platooning outfielders, so I usually under-invest in them. This season, I think it’s time to reverse those strategies. The sheer depth of starters could mute the value of the top few tiers. Perhaps maximizing elite relief innings may be the ticket to the top.
This is just mock number one of the season. I’ll post up the results of future industry mocks, especially if I’ve learned something from them.
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The link to the results does not work. Bummer…
try this:
http://www.rtsports.com/baseball/draft-board.php?LID=506246&UID=fantasybaseball
I know you mentioned the Posey pick kind of being an impulse buy, but I also don’t like the Hanley pick either. I guess position scarcity is a thing you either believe in or don’t (and I generally don’t unless you are talking catcher) but in the first 3 rounds, i pretty much draft completely by stats and only bump up position later on in the draft (and even then, only really catchers to any significant amount). This is particularly true when considering that offense is down in the league overall IMO.
With that said, with going for what you did the first couple of rounds, I don’t mind the Fernandez/Sale back to back nearly as much. Because you passed on hitting stats early to go for position scarcity, the only rebound you truly have is to dominate pitching while being average offensively going for more upside later in the draft offensively.
Clearly we have different expectations of Hanley. I see him as a guy who has above average production in five categories.
Roughly, 80/24/80/15/.285 with a fairly wide range (could be anywhere from 50/15/50/10/.260 to 100/28/95/20/.315). So I don’t see where I’m giving up hitting stats with him unless you expect a well above average chance of injury (which I suppose is justifiable).
The position scarcity helps since SS/3B can be hard to fill. But what I was buying there was five category value. I came very close to picking Braun instead and he’s the only guys I would take ahead of Ramirez in this format/position. I probably should have, but I let position scarcity push me the other way in this draft.
I’ve learned pitching is so insanely deep this year I can get a guy liek Dan Haren or Josh Johnson in the last rounds.
Dan Haren in the last rounds isn’t something to be proud of.
I;m fairly confident in a rebound. Dodgers Stadium is a pitchers park and his velocity was back up at the end of the season.
Still, guys like Nolasco,Kazmir or Porcello were available in the last rounds.
He’s fine, but there are so many young guys that i’d take before them.
I see Haren opening the season as a stream starter in this type of format (even assuming that there would be a bench). If he got out to a quick start, his permanent ownership would then increase accordingly.
We’ll see if that’s accurate, but it doesn’t look like I’ll be drafting him.
3.67 xFIP, 1.07 xWhip, 8 k/9… I’m not sure what the problem is. Yah, there are a lot of young guys with higher ceilings and a lot of guys with better k/9, but this is fantastic late round value imo. I hope my league thinks like you.
The issue is that there is evidence that his xFIP and xWHIP may not be catching the whole story. For example, he’s shown declining velocity, a career long tendency to above average home run rates, and an increasing fly ball rate. Nationals Park is friendly to pitchers, like his new stadium, so we shouldn’t expect a big boost from park effects. His expected strikeout rate is closer to 7.30 K/9, and I wonder if his increased fly ball rate is because he’s trading fly balls for more swinging strikes.
Haren is as good a flier as any, but he carries a lot more risk in his profile than you’re acknowledging.
I don’t see Cody Allen closing anytime soon.
Yea that wasn’t a good pick at all. I forgot they acquired Axford.
Most of the problem was that I brought zero prep materials with me, so I just drafted from memory subject to what I could find on their draft board. They had the top 400 players ranked but after that was alphabetical.
It’s also worth noting that I’m in Dhaka Bangladesh, so the others had a night draft while I woke up, turned on the draft app, and started making picks.
It was very much a cold draft. The next big mock is coming up on Monday night ET (Tuesday morning for me), and I’ll be better prepared.
globe trotting ain’t gonna get much sympathy from me.
that being said, thanks for posting re. your learnings from this mock. and thank you in advance for posting about any learnings from your tuesday draft.
ps, gotta agree with tesla, haren ain’t great, but if he’s seen as undraftable then my owner is gonna end up with him on a lot of teams per my direction.
safe travels brad!
Rizzo in the 10th? yes please
OK, gotta ask. What are you doing in Bangladesh? I had to spend a couple of nights there in 1987 when my flight was delayed due to a general strike. The streets were crowded with men only, and hundreds rode on top of freight train cars.
Yea, it’s still like that. My spouse works in global health, so I’m on an extended visit. I’ll be back in the US soon (and looking forward to it!)
Sorry for the amatuer question but how did you so nearly me the project the steamer teams into the doc? Would love to do that following my drafts.
I manually entered my own team and one of the others in the draft put together the league wide doc. I think he manually entered it all too.
Easiest way is to make a custom fangraphs dashboard with the five categories and just search the players.
Who would you keep? Shelby miller rd 17, liriano rd 20, or wacha rd 21?
Miller or Wacha. I wouldn’t worry about the difference of four rounds that late in the draft, just decide which one you are more confident in next season.
I think a lot can be said for going into a draft being completely willing to punt a position. Last year, after looking at shortstop options before the draft, I decided I wouldn’t even worry about it until around the twentieth round. I already had my guy picked out, too: Jean Segura. I looked like a genius, and even felt like one too. But my thinking was that I could find some crappy shortstop that hit for a not terrible average and stole a few bases while not wasting an early pick on a guy that would probably only do a little better (Tulo and Hanley were both keepers for other managers).
I just did that with catcher in an 18 team mock (more on that soon from Eno).
Basically, I knew Mesoraco, Pinto, and Grandal would be around until the end. I didn’t think they were much worse than the options after Rosario, so I just waited. Sometimes, there is that late round guy that nobody wants.
I also took Wong and Mercer late for 2B rather than wade in on the more expensive options. I did miss out on OF again, which is becoming a pattern.
Also, I completely agree on the dearth of depth at outfield and first base. There are only a few outfielders who really bring the whole package, and you need to take one of them whenever you can. That being said, you can piece together solid outfield production with non-elite options, and a few surprises always pop up throughout the season, but building around a stud or two when you have a few outfield positions to fill is a wise idea. As for first base, I feel ripped off. That is supposed to be an offensive position, but we get to not-awesome offense really really fast. We have two utility positions in my league, and I generally try to make one of them a 1B, but that may not be a no-brainer anymore. Offense in general is harder to find, which explains why it is so easy to get good pitching.
Also, keeper question: I get 3 keepers. I will list my players with the round I would forfeit in parentheses next to them. McCutchen (1), Kershaw (would be 1, but rolls over to 2 if I keep Cutch), Hanley (also would be 1, but rolls over to 2 or to 3 depending), Kipnis (3), Sale (5), Hamels (5), Rosario (13). Those are probably the only ones I would even consider. Who would you keep?
Cutch, Kershaw, Hanley because of the roll over. Also just because.
keep 2… Puig Segura and Cole last 2 rounds (24th and 25th round. Im thinking Puig and Segura. Also i have the first pick in my league cuz i won last year, would you take Miggy or Trout? keep in mind my league also counts 1B 2B 3B BB and K (14 teams league H2H) I believe my team would be something like this after my third pick. SS Segura, 3B Miggy, CF Puig RF Bautista SP1 Strasburg (Darvish wont get to me) do you like it? who should I target for latter rounds?
Personally, I would probably let Segura go or cut Puig and take Trout. Then again, the pitching depth is easier to acquire these days…all approaches have merit.
I would find it extremely difficult to pass on Trout. It looks like you expect your choice to be Trout and Wright(?) or Miggy and Bautista? Either works, but you might be willing to take Trout Rnd1 for a very long time whereas Cabrera is already showing possible signs of physical break down.
You’re in one of those situations where all of your options are pretty good. So some extra analysis on those additional categories, but don’t agonize over it.
in my league you can keep a player just for one year and just if you took him after the 4th round or FA, so i wont have Trout for a long time (just this year), if this was a normal keeper league I would totally draft Trout over miggy. I´m pretty sure neither Wright or Longoria would be available for my 2nd pick and I dont like the 3B after these guys, thats the main reason why im thinking miggy with my pick
I’d keep Puig & Cole and take Trout
I really like Cole too, I dont trust Segura even though he is higher on everyone rankings and I can keep them just for 1 year
A lot of my colleagues are buying on Segura, but I haven’t made up my mind on him yet (mostly because I have analyzed yet). On the surface level, something about him reminds me a bit of Alcides Escobar with power. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it just depends where you get him/how much you pay.
do you guys like Kipnis? I mean do you think he wont brake again in the second half this year?
I like Kipnis to repeat his 2013 performance (roughly). He was downright terrible in April, awesome for a couple months, and then meh for awhile. I expect a more stable performance this season with higher lows and lower highs.
He’s great for roto formats due to the even-ish distribution of HR and SB production.