Is A.J. Pollock A Top Pick?
When I wrote about Paul Goldschmidt earlier in the offseason, part of my analysis focused on when he would be available in the first round. I assumed Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, and Clayton Kershaw would absorb the first three picks, leaving Goldy as the consensus fourth overall selection. However, there are a handful of players I could justify taking ahead of Goldschmidt. His teammate, A.J. Pollock, is one of them.
A few commenters disagreed with my assessment of Pollock as an early first round pick. Let’s turn to the actual comments and my response:
Here’s the thing, if we were to hold drafts today, then I agree with them both. Pollock’s perceived value places him outside of the top 10 players. However, after an entire offseason of analysis, people will notice that Pollock offers a few particularly endearing qualities.
With $40 of roto production, he was the second most productive outfielder last season. That’s $1 behind Harper and $5 ahead of Trout (also $3 ahead of Goldschmidt). He produced a monster 5×5 line. In addition to his 20 home runs, he ranked third in runs (111) and stolen bases (39), and sixth in batting average (.315). His 76 RBI were above average too.
The automatic reflex is to say “but…regression.” Where? It’s true that exceptional performers usually have nowhere to go but down. It will be very hard, but not impossible, for Pollock to improve upon his 2015 campaign. Odds are, we’ve seen the best he has to offer.
Trout declined this season while playing through a nagging wrist injury. He was still very good. Carlos Gomez fell off the side of a cliff with a handful of minor injuries. Michael Brantley battled injury all season. Andrew McCutchen and Adam Jones were worse without the obvious injuries (they may have still been playing hurt).
This general form of regression – call it Injury and Physical Decline – can affect any player. Pollock could be affected next season. But I highlight this for one important reason – his peripherals don’t look fluky.
He’s a high contact hitter with a 6.9 percent swinging strike rate and a 13.2 percent strikeout rate. He’s neither aggressive nor passive at the plate which allows him to post a low strikeout rate and respectable walk rate. He makes frequent hard contact with 85 percent of his balls in play listed as “hard” or “medium.” That helps him to produce a high .327 career BABIP. He hits just enough to the opposite field to be shift proof.
If there’s one area where statistical decline is most likely, it’s his power numbers. Pollock is a ground ball hitter with a tiny 29 percent fly ball rate. Those flies converted to home runs at a career best rate last season, but it’s not like his 13.2 percent HR/FB ratio is out of hand. He ranked 56th among qualified hitters in HR/FB. He was adjacent to Brian Dozier and Jay Bruce. His average fly ball went 293 feet – 60th best and farther than Dozier or Bruce (both 285 feet).
While his flies tend to have some oomph behind them, ESPN’s home run tracker lists nine of 20 as “just enough.” If you eyeball his spray chart, there are two squeakers down the left field line that really stand out. His four opposite field shots also barely left the yard.
Since he’s still in his physical prime, we shouldn’t assume that his modest oppo-pop will disappear entirely. In fact, another nearly 700 plate appearance season could easily be accompanied by 20 more home runs. Even if you’re worried he won’t crack 20 bombs again, he’s a relatively safe bet to reach 15 home runs.
Like Josh Donaldson, his value is bolstered by his teammates – particularly Goldschmidt. Hitting ahead of the top first baseman leads to those gaudy run totals. I do worry that the team could rein in his base stealing. He converted 39 of 46 attempts this season. If he’s caught a little more often, he’ll be doing more harm than good.
Ultimately, we probably won’t be seeing Pollock drafted among the top six players very often. It will happen because some crazy person will see 30/50 potential and pay for it. He’ll probably settle in somewhere between the eighth and 16th consensus pick.
Steamer foresees modest regression with a 78/14/64/26/.281 line. Personally, I think a healthy Pollock should easily produce a 105/15/65/30/.300 line. There’s upside for more, but I wouldn’t bank on it. And as we discusses earlier, nagging and/or serious injuries can affect anybody.
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I think he’ll be top 15 for sure though, there aren’t many candidates who can do 20-30.
He is not much of a candidate himself. There is close to zero chance he hits 20 HR. His 2015 was more fluke than a good indication of what to expect in 2016. Career highs in everything…
That’s not math. I’d say he probably doesn’t have a 50% chance of reaching 20 home runs. It’s definitely not “close to zero.” If the median projection is somewhere between 15 and 20 HR, then 20 is quite reachable.
Career highs in everything…well yeah no kidding, that’s obviously going to happen when a player had 243 games of experience over 3 seasons. Take a look at his 2014 numbers on a pro-rated basis and they look strikingly similar to his 2015 numbers.
Michael Brantley comp anyone? Same age, similar batting profile, shows promise for several years, then a huge breakout season in which said player was simply in the zone for 6 straight months. You can do all the math you want, but I don’t need an abacus to figure that Pollock isn’t going to outperform Mike Trout again. CBS had Brantley at #48 overall for 2015 – and that seems like a reasonable projection for Pollock in ’16
“Andrew McCutchen and Adam Jones were worse without the obvious injuries”
Where were you all of April when Cutch’s knee was the talk of MLB? FG even had an article on how it affected his swing.
And it definitely slowed down his running game.
It’s rare to see a player with a single breakout season on his card be drafted anywhere near the level of that previous year’s value. Jose Bautista was still going in the 2nd or even 3rd(!) round of drafts the year after he hit 54 homers.
I think the point here is if you think Pollock is capable of repeating last year’s performance he’s going to be a bargain for you on draft day because the marketplace will absolutely not value him that way. In the one public mock that’s out there currently he went at 18 overall. McCutchen went 10th. I’d say there’s a very strong chance Pollock outperforms Cutch this year but it’ll be the rare draft in which he’ll be taken before because of the perception of safety in Cutch’s track record giving him a high floor.
In a weird way, McCutchen’s ADP may impact Pollock’s. I think it’ll be hard for people to pull the trigger on Pollock with he’s still on the board, but I think people will start to move him slightly lower on their boards as they look at last three year trend line. The lower Cutch goes, the lower Pollock goes and the better the value he becomes.
That’s the thing, though. Look at Pollock’s 2014. He actually put up -better- numbers than he did in 2015, however his season was cut short by a broken hand (thanks Cueto). Many people either forgot about his 2014 (he plays in AZ) or wrote him off as a fluke. The numbers in 2015 are very similar across the board to 2014. Barring injury, I think there’s a good chance Pollock has another great season.
I agree with you. I loved him coming into 2015. I’m just saying how I think the general fantasy market is going to value him. What do you think the chances are he ends up with an ADP lower than Cutch? In fact, I bet you could find a lot of people who believe Pollock will produce more $s who will say that they would still prefer to draft McCutchen anyway as the “safer” option.
“Look at Pollock’s 2014. He actually put up -better- numbers than he did in 2015, however his season was cut short by a broken hand (thanks Cueto).”
Pollock’s 2014 was worse than 2015 on a per game basis in literally every fantasy category. Well, maybe you have GDP as a category.
Always happy to be the basis for an article. And I agree with your conclusion this time! As well as the analysis, though I think you might be a little bit high on the runs scored projections, I’d be more comfortable around 90-95 there, as I don’t really view the Dbacks offense as deep or necessarily reliable (besides Goldy of course).
720R last year from the Dbacks, only the Rockies scored more in the NL. Peralta isn’t bad, Pete O’brien might play, Encirate isn’t half bad, Castillo might be back? it’ can’t get any worse at 2b/ss and the rockies, padres and even giants look to have pretty weak staffs. I think the Dbacks should be top 2 or 3 again in R in the NL.
I agree with this, the first string offense is fairly impressive. Obviously, they need the Goldy and Pollock components healthy to get back to where they were this year. I will admit the numbers I quoted don’t include a full adjustment for injury. I like to look at full health and injury adjusted projections. Most owners buy or sell under the presumption of full health, so I think those numbers better reflect the marketplace.
True, I mostly based that comment on their WRC+ from last year, which was a 96. Maybe they had some fortunate sequencing?
And I do agree that they do have some potential on offense. Even with a drop in BABIP, Peralta should still be above average. Tomas might improve. Owings has no where to go but up after last year. Inciarte is perfectly adequate being who he is.
The top of the lineup is very good. The rest of the lineup is very not.
We don’t have pre-season trading anymore, Brad, but hit me up for my $17 Pollock after the draft.
Who do you want? My roster is pretty much set aside from a $50 buy and a couple $1 guys.
How do you rate him dynasty-wise? Would you trade him straight up for Corey Seager? Lindor? Sano?
Given his age, you could easily justify trading him for one of them. I would try to find the owner who still thinks of Pollock as young enough to pay more than just one of those players. Obviously you won’t get something like Seager+Sano, but I cold see a Lindor+Jansen/Robertson type swap.
I think we offered JDM and Odubel Herrera for Pollock (eventually turned down after days of hemming and hawing).
Author’s Question: The automatic reflex is to say “but…regression.” Where?
Author’s Answer: Pollock is a ground ball hitter with a tiny 29 percent fly ball rate. Those flies converted to home runs at a career best rate last season, but it’s not like his 13.2 percent HR/FB ratio is out of hand. He ranked 56th among qualified hitters in HR/FB. He was adjacent to Brian Dozier and Jay Bruce.
Author’s Other Answer: I do worry that the team could rein in his base stealing. He converted 39 of 46 attempts this season. If he’s caught a little more often, he’ll be doing more harm than good.
I’m sure a majority of his profit / value came from steals this year. I’m not buying at asking price on a guy who derives value from steals.
Not even a plurality. My numbers have his run scoring and average as his top 2 two categories. SB are a close third place. Pollock derives his value through monster 5 category production.
Nope. Most of Pollock’s value came from steals:
http://games.espn.go.com/flb/playerrater
His steal value (+4.89) was about twice as much as his Runs (+2.65), and a healthy chunk above his Avg value (+3.36).
Then I don’t agree with ESPN’s methodology. I’m not surprised, I almost never do.
Btw, that’s still not “most.” Steals only account for 1/3 of his production per however this was calculated.
The reason I’d show pause taking Pollock in the first round is that, in my opinion, it’s a tad unrealistic to expect him to repeat his counting numbers. 111 runs is rather difficult to replicate even if you’re Mike Trout. Same with his stolen bases for anyone not named Billy Hamilton. He had a fantastic season but assuming that everything will go right again isn’t always a safe bet.
His BABIP was also slightly high to repeat for my liking. I think mid second round is a good spot for him. From my perspective there are guys with greater upside who are slightly more deserving of the top 10-15 picks or so.
Third base could also throw a wrench in the first round. If I recall, there are 4 potential first round talents at the position, Matt Carpenter, and a steep slope.
You wrote: “However, there are a handful of players I could justify taking ahead of Goldschmidt. His teammate, A.J. Pollock, is one of them.”
Hmmm…I have Goldschmidt as my #1 overall pick ahead of Harper and Trout. I think he can go 40-100-100-20-.320 in 2016. Trout and Harper may equal him in power, but not SB and BA.
You wrote: “Hmmm…I have Goldschmidt as my #1 overall pick ahead of Harper and Trout. I think he can go 40-100-100-20-.320 in 2016. Trout and Harper may equal him in power, but not SB and BA.”
Hmmm… I have Goldschmidt as my #2 overall pick ahead of Harper and Trout. I think he can go 50-120-120-30-.340 in 2016. Trout and Harper may equal him in power, but not SB and BA. I also have AJ Pollick as my #1 overall pick ahead of Goldschmidt. I think he can go 30-130-130-50-.350 in 2016.
I appreciate the article and the thinking you have shown about Pollock’s value here, Brad. My point, which I’ll stand by, is that Pollock is not in the same tier from a perceived value standpoint.
Based on that, it would be irresponsible to pick Pollock 4th or 5th overall. Heck, even if you knew Pollock would be the most valuable commodity in all of baseball this year, you still should not spend your 1st round pick on him if the market values him as a mid 2nd rounder. You should draft Donaldson or Miggy or Correa in the 1st round, then Pollock in the 2nd round. More often than not, this team will be stronger than the one that reaches to get Pollock in the 1st round and then settles for Bautista or Encarnacion or Votto in the 2nd round.
This was the type of draft strategy that David Luciani used to write about on Baseball Notebook, which I believe was based on data from thousands of leagues.
This logic is only true if you’ll have a chance to draft him in the second round. If a guy is fourth on your board, goes 15th on average, and you draft 4th and 21st, then you should pick the guy at the top of your board. If you’re picking 10th and 15th, then roll the dice on getting the better player later.
Whether or not this applies to Pollock remains to be seen.
Or we can do away with the problem by joining an auction league 🙂
I would do things differently here, Brad.
If I draft 4th, and Pollock is at the top of my list and I just have to get him . . . I am trading down to select him at about pick 12 or 13. The guy at the wheel there would probably be all too happy to give a juicy pick upgrade to go from pick 12 to pick 4. Something like his round 5 for my round 8?
I look at the draft as a contest where the objective is to maximize roster value. (Balance comes later.) I feel that selecting Pollock 4th overall leaves a lot of potential value on the table.
I’m going to hazard that leagues with draft pick trading constitute less than 1% of the market.
Surprised to hear you say that. Both of my fantasy leagues allow draft pick trading. And these are two very distinct leagues where I am the only person that plays in both.
Yahoo doesn’t even fully support pick trading. The commissioner has to do a lot of manual adjustments. So almost no Yahoo leagues allow pick trading. Obviously, CBS does support pick trades, so it’s more common there. I don’t recall what ESPN and FOX do, but their platforms aren’t great. And I’ve only used RTS for mocks.
I think Pollack is a first round grab but not top 6. That rarified air belongs to Trout, Harper, Kershaw, Stanton, Goldie and Donaldson.