Getting Aggressive (or not) in the H2H Post-Season
Flags fly forever, or so they say. And yet…not really. I mean, they kind of do, but how many Giants fans out there are like, “Eh, we had our run, good on the Dodgers!” Right.
So in fantasy, particularly keeper or dynasty leagues, you have to make a tough call when that title is in reach – how do you maximize your chances at that eternal flag without ensuring a collapse the next year? I am struggling with a situation right now that puts that balance to the test.
I play in one H2H league each year, with a group of friends from my Chicago days, and I have had limited success. I took over a bad roster three seasons ago and it took some work to get into contention. This year, though, I dominated. The gap between 2nd and 6th (top 6 make the playoffs) was smaller than my lead over 2nd. But the playoffs could not have come at a worse time.
Carlos Carrasco missed a couple starts, but should be back now (I hope). Yasmani Grandal is playing (or not playing) hurt. Matt Harvey is nearing a shut down. Joey Votto is facing a two game suspension (which would be a killer in a one-week matchup). Now Edwin Encarnacion is hurt. So I have some choices to make. With the trade deadline in the past, my only option to solve these issues it to make some cuts.
In this league, we can keep 14 players, but not until two players are voted off your team into the FA pool. So you want to end the season with 16 keepers on a 25 man roster. I am sitting on 20 guys who could be theoretically kept, including 14 clear keepers. There is an added rule that players added after 9/1 cannot be kept, which means a) if I add someone cheap to replace Harvey, I cannot keep that player, but also b) if I drop Harvey, no one else can pick him up as a keeper.
The flags-fly-forever crowd would (I think) say you go for broke – drop the broken Grandal and add the red-hot Blake Swihart; drop the out-of-innings Harvey and stream 2-start SP; drop an OF (I have 7, all of whom could be kept, potentially) for a 1B/CI to backup Votto and Encarnacion.
The balance-and-long-term-thinking crowd (which needs to rebrand) would say to be more balanced and think long-term – hold Harvey, but drop a less enticing keeper to stream a pitcher, even if you have to go with a shorter bench to do it; let Anthony Rendon fill in at CI for two games, with Rougned Odor moving off the bench to start at 2B; live with Grandal’s injury, he’s only one guy and you’ll miss him in 2016.
My semi-final match-up starts today, and we have waivers that happen Sunday nights and Wednesday nights. Last night, I struck a middle ground. With Harvey, I stood pat. He’s set to start next weekend, so I’ll get a start (though maybe a short one) out of him this week anyway. He may well get dropped after that start, though.
I’ll roll with Grandal, as well. There are catcher options out there, but Swihart is playing part-time, and Grandal is about to face the weak-pitching Rockies (sadly, in Chavez Ravine), so I’ll live with him.
But instead of living with Odor as a Votto/EE replacement, I’ve put in a waiver claim on a couple guys – Travis Shaw or Eduardo Escobar. Shaw would be my best option to fill in for EE and Votto for a few days, as needed. Escobar could do that but also back up SS (I have only one SS on my roster) if needed. The move will cost me Jacoby Ellsbury, but he was my least keepable OF, anyway.
If it turns out I need a start from a SP, I’ll drop Shaw during the Wednesday waiver and add my best streaming option. As it stands now, I am set for 8 starts, with my opponent getting 9, and that assumes nothing from Harvey. If that plays out, I’ll take my SP over his.
The frustrating thing here, is these are moves at the very margins. I’m unlikely to lose because Swihart outperforms Grandal; I am unlikely to win because Shaw outperforms Odor. And my team is unlikely to win or lose in 2016 because I dropped Ellsbury or held Grandal.
Now we just have to hope I pulled the right levers.
A long-time fantasy baseball veteran and one of the creators of ottoneu, Chad Young's is the Managing Editor for RotoGraphs, and can be heard on the Keep or Kut Podcast. You can follow him on Bluesky @chadyoung.bsky.social.
speaking of Votto, This week is my championship week. Lineups lock for the week at first pitch. should i roll with votto and him more than likely missing two games or pick up and start Lind, Forsythe, Belt or Bird?
I am in a few daily moves (capped at 6 per week), in the playoffs I steam a SP most days (i normally use some of the projections online and find a guy projected to have at least a mediocre start)
It may be too agressive, but in a dynasty, I expect to churn the bottom 3-4 guys on all my rosters in the post season either way.
If your team is that much better than the competition, then even with the issues with Votto, E5, Harvey, and Grandal you are probably still favored to win the league.
I would never drop a solid potential keeper at this stage of the season. You don’t get to be the guy dominating your keeper league by making a bunch of moves to try to squeeze a bit more out in the playoffs. You get to be that guy by refusing to quit building for the future, no matter how tempting the present looks.
For instance, in my league I have cheap Stroman and Yelich occupying my DL spots. I wont be making another move at all during the playoffs, as that would necessitate dropping enough guys off my bench to activate Stroman and Yelich. Better to just play the season out shorthanded and have those guys available to keep next year.
That may be a tad too far, but it depends on where you stand in the league. I am in 5th place (top 6 make playoffs) in a league with a similar issue. no farm team, and Orlando Arcia taking up a roster spot. To this point I have kept him and playing a roster spot down (it is a pretty deep bench). If i am close at the end of the week, trust me, he will be be a drop in order to get another SP in on Saturday or Sunday.
It might be a bit aggressive. But I’m willing to roll the dice in the early years to establish a powerhouse in the later ones. And it’s worked for me so far. My winning percentage has gone from .507 > .525 > .586 > .661 > .684 in a pretty competitive league over the last five years.
Of course, my league has a bye week in the playoffs for the top 2 finishers in the regular season. And the first place team in the regular season gets an additional cash prize on top of what they get for the playoffs. So that tips the scales for my specific league, I suppose.
My team is in the semi final, and my 4 keepers are on pace to provide me zero at bats and 1 start
Puig – rehabbing
CarGomez – out
Kluber – out
Jose Fern – back?
Send me your prayers
Different rules. Different players. Same problem for the second consecutive year.
My team was in the finals last year.
I made the decision to keep my roster whole even though I knew I didn’t have enough pitching because I knew my roster would kill everyone this year. (You can keep everyone if you afford it until they become FA’s after 5 years. Special rules for MiL players.)
In spite of injuries to guys like Stanton and Miggy, my roster was deep and locked a playoff spot a month ago…but I didn’t have enough pitching for the finals last year and lost.
Same dilemma this year. Had to make roster changes from last year’s team due to budget, but this year’s team is positioned to have the best record again next year. Problem? Lots of kid pitchers on limits. There just isn’t enough pitching to get through the playoffs and anybody I drop will be snatched up in the free agent auction.
Semi finals are next week so I still have time to adjust, but given the quality of FA’s is it worth it?
Facing a similar situation. Decided to sell the future for this year and flip Harvey (as a 17th round keeper for one more year) and Gallo (as a 23rd round keeper for two years) to an owner who had been eliminated from the playoffs for three-week rentals of Kershaw, Kenley Jansen, and Freddie Freeman.
I’m all about balance and long term thinking. It does help that I kinda positioned myself for that strategy. Already dropped an extra RP for streaming and got a young but currently terrible SP to open up another streaming spot. Never go for broke in keeper leagues. There is always next year.
The Rotographs editor with the “nobody cares about your fantasy team” filter must have been off today.